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Chiefs WR Dwayne Bowe: 'My reputation is everything'

FILE - In this Sept. 20, 2009, file photo, Kansas City Chiefs wide receiver Dwayne Bowe looks on before a NFL football game against the Oakland Raiders in Kansas City, Mo. The Chiefs announced on Tuesday, Nov. 17, 2009, that Bowe has been suspended for four games for violating the NFL's drug policy. The team said the NFL suspended Bowe for violating policy on "performance enhancing substances."  (AP Photo/ Charlie Riedel, File)

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2 months ago: FILE - In this Sept. 20, 2009, file photo, Kansas City Chiefs wide receiver Dwayne Bowe looks on before a NFL football game against the Oakland Raiders in Kansas City, Mo. The Chiefs announced on Tuesday, Nov. 17, 2009, that Bowe has been suspended for four games for violating the NFL's drug policy. The team said the NFL suspended Bowe for violating policy on "performance enhancing substances." (AP Photo/ Charlie Riedel, File)

Kansas City Chiefs receiver Dwayne Bowe has been advised by his agent, Todd France, to not speak publicly at this time on the four game suspension levied upon him by the NFL.  He did, however, release a five sentence statement regarding the matter.

Here is his statement, which was given to former teammate Eddie Kennison, now of 810 WHB:

Star-divide

"First of all, to all my fans, I'm extremely sorry.  I was only trying to do right for my team by losing weight to be much quicker.  I would never use steroids of any kind.  My reputation is everything.  My fans know I am not that type of guy to get over."

Bowe confirms that the banned substance was some sort of diuretic used to lose weight.

I've seen the argument via a few emails that this is indirectly the fault of head coach Todd Haley.  Some say that Haley's training regimen, and conditioning program, put too much stress on players to lose weight essentially forcing Bowe to use the pill.

I can see that argument. I don't agree with it but I can see where someone is coming from with that.

My take would be that of personal responsibility.  No matter how you shake it, Bowe is responsible for what he puts into his body.  We don't know the circumstances of the situation (how much he was asked to lose, what time frame, etc).

This really is too bad about Bowe, though, because it will follow him the rest of his career.

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the current, best Chiefs player

let’s hope management doesn’t screw this up like the Jared Allen situation

by xchiefsx on Nov 18, 2009 12:18 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Ryan Succup and Dustin Colquitt would like a word with you...

"What?!?! I aint no Obama for the weed!"
-Turk McBride

by HIV 2 Elway on Nov 18, 2009 12:46 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

let's stop the Succop/Colquitt train for MVP

they’re not even the Chiefs’ top 10 players

by xchiefsx on Nov 18, 2009 1:13 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

10 i'd rather have than a kicker/punter

Bowe, Flowers, Hali, Vrabel, Cassel, Albert, Waters, Edwards, Carr, and Dorsey

by xchiefsx on Nov 18, 2009 2:18 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Rec'd

I’m tired of the Colquitt/Succop train too. First off, Succop only gets a chance if the offense gets him in position.Colquitt is nothing without the coverage unit..deep punts dont matter if theyre returned 20+ yards. Sure, hangtime gives the coverage unit time to get down there but hangtime must not be too important anymore considering they never show the hangtime clock anymroe..

by Petey14 on Nov 18, 2009 4:27 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Bullshit...

Only two that are clearly near the top at their positions.

"What?!?! I aint no Obama for the weed!"
-Turk McBride

by HIV 2 Elway on Nov 18, 2009 1:22 PM CST via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

Flowers

His tremendous improvement gets overlooked being surrounded by such garbage. But I can’t find many CBs I’d rather have. He’s clearly near the top of his position imo.

He does need to work on actually catching the ball when he puts himself in position for an interception tho….

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by KCSatchmo on Nov 18, 2009 1:26 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

-1

we’re not talking about players at the top of their positions. K/P aren’t clearly valued as much as other positions, that’s why a top rookie K/P may go 3rd/4th round in the draft

by xchiefsx on Nov 18, 2009 2:20 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Just because

a kicker and punter are “near the top” in their position doesnt make them a top 10 player on the team.

If it came down to having to give up our Kicker/Punter or a player on O or D that actually matters..like Dorsey or Cassel or Jackson..Bowe..Flowers..id definately keep those guys.

You dont have to have a great kicker/punter to have a great team.

by Petey14 on Nov 18, 2009 4:29 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

just stop

Field position/special teams WINS football games, ask the 99 Rams super Bowl team down to the Vikings, tony horne, after half, return TD….

Colquitt is one of the best at his position, its not just about being a distance punter…hes an amazing coffin corner hang time high net punter.

Succop has a strong leg, has increase our field position with kickoffs finally reaching the end zone on occasion, and hitting field goals right off the bat…

10 players are better on this team? ok lets see…Flowers on D…uhm…what else you got? Cassel at QB? thats my list, oh, I guess Brian Waters as well…I dont think I would list anyone else we have as higher up, not till they improve, or switch positions(albert to guard)

by SDChief on Nov 18, 2009 2:03 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

great post!

Punters and kickers are vastly underrated. Apparently they’re just not entertaining enough to watch at times. ;)

by worc on Nov 18, 2009 2:05 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

+1

There is no comparison to our SP Team kickers with other players at their positions. Flowers is just above average right now.. Needs more improvement at hi position to become top 10 than our two kickers.

Winning begins with Attitude - Haley and Pioli will be winners in KC!

I'll forever be a Chiefs fan! Only God himself could take that away from me, but when I get to my great reward, I'll rejoin two bigger fans, my Mom and Dad.

by Lanier63 on Nov 18, 2009 2:11 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

i dont know, but

i personally have waited a long time for a good, consistent kicking game. apples and oranges if you ask me…

Just like novocaine. give it time; always works..

by be cee on Nov 18, 2009 2:15 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I agree: special teams play is just as important as offense and defense.

Toby is in HR, which technically means he works for corporate, so he's really not a part of our family. Also, he's divorced, so he's really not a part of his family.

by Rev. Slappy on Nov 18, 2009 7:44 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

not a great argument

the 99 RAMs won because they had a killer offense and a reliable defense.

Punting and kicking is a specialty, and you’re comparing every down players to players who only affect a hand-full of plays a game. For Succop to even get in FG range, the offense has to put him in that position.

by xchiefsx on Nov 18, 2009 2:29 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

They affect a lot of plays, not just a handful...

Theres a lot of strategy and decisions affected due to field position throughout the whole game.

With Colquitt’s excellent punting and hangtime, the other team doesn’t have a chance to return the ball while being pinned far back into their territory. The Chiefs have punted away the ball so many times to the other team that the scores should be much more lopsided.

If you want to see how punting won a game, a GREAT example is how Scifres from the Chargers helped them win against the Colts last season during the playoffs. It was a really impressive performance.

by worc on Nov 18, 2009 2:43 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

that more depends on the coverage unit

Colquitt is a top-5 punter because he doesn’t have many touchbacks and his hangtime is good. That being, if the Chiefs used an average punter, they could realistically lose anywhere between 5-15 more yards on most punt. So, with a top-5 punter, does that significantly raise the team’s chances of winning? I don’t say they do, BUT it’s certainly helpful in specific circumstances.

Why didn’t Belicheck punt to the Colts last Sunday? It wasn’t because his punter sucked. Belicheck knew the Colts would score regardless of their field position.

by xchiefsx on Nov 18, 2009 2:57 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

was it really soley because his punter sucks?

did he say that or do you have backup to that claim?

by worc on Nov 18, 2009 3:55 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

#1 Peyton, #2 defense was winded

do you honestly think a punter has THAT much influence? maybe he’s really bad…
please review a copy of the Chiefs-Colts 2003 playoff game and tell me the net yardage in punting.

by xchiefsx on Nov 18, 2009 4:09 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Usually for punters their is a trade off between hang time and distance. Get good hang time and force a fair catch attempt, but at the expense of some yards. Get good distance on the kick, and you run the risk outkicking your coverage unit and set the receiving unit up for a return (which could always end in a big run back with one good block or missed tackle). DC brings to the field a combo of hang time and distance. Allowing long kicks down the field to win field position, whilst also allowing the coverage unit to get down to cover & prevent returns… At any rate, it takes the other teams longer to drive down a lengthier field on us.

by DanielShirley on Nov 18, 2009 3:47 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah no shit.

Remember short kickoffs and weak legged inaccurate kickers? Nothing pisses me off more. These 2 kickers are gold. I am THRILLED to have them. Do I want more good players? Sure. But lets appreciate what we have.

by Lucasjr5 on Nov 18, 2009 5:23 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

cassel at qb?

yes cuz cassel has played great, scoring tons of points, hitting those deep routes. sorry a qb wont even make my list of top 10. bowe, chambers, vrabel, flowers, carr, page, albert, waters, dorsey, wade/bradley them two are fighting for number 10.

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by nfamous209 on Nov 18, 2009 6:19 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Hey guy

We just like our punter and kicker, they’re the only ones that produce consistently every sunday.

by kcchiefskicka on Nov 18, 2009 4:18 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

i dont think theres any way to convince him

it kind of seems like we can we can take 2 “guys off the street” and there would be no difference i supposed… _

by worc on Nov 18, 2009 4:23 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

in response that Colquitt > Bowe

Colquitt is great but people’s priorities are messed up if they realistically think he’s the best Chiefs’ player. The same stuff was said last year even when Tony G was still playing.

by xchiefsx on Nov 18, 2009 4:55 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

How does management have anything to do with this?

This is a league matter.

"What?!?! I aint no Obama for the weed!"
-Turk McBride

by HIV 2 Elway on Nov 18, 2009 12:47 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

yep

i doubt they’d seriously consider trading Bowe because of one incident, but who knows, if more matters continue to negatively impact Bowe, say hello to a new 2nd round pick

by xchiefsx on Nov 18, 2009 1:10 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

The only thing it negatively impacts is his image, which is a slap on the wrist being that it is one incident.

He didn’t shoot himself literally with a gun. Hasn’t tossed anyone under the bus. Whether it’s through media or his blogging, he has a competitive spirit. I think he can survive this blow on his reputation later in the future.

He’s being punished for it right now and learning from it. Again, I just think its being blown out of proportion especially when you have more details on the background. Media and the Mob love this stuff… :]

by worc on Nov 18, 2009 2:03 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

comparably speaking

Bowe gets a 4 game suspension for taking a diuretic and Allen got 2 games (reduced) for multiple DUI’s. That’s an argument onto itself right there.

by xchiefsx on Nov 18, 2009 2:34 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I agree...

And it was a completely different “management”

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by woodman212 on Nov 18, 2009 2:40 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Where does this blame Haley crap come from?

I havent seen anyone blame Haley for this. What I have seen is jackasses say that I am blaming Haley by saying he should revise that number he keeps bragging about to remove Bowe’s weight loss from the total.

Predictions for 2009:

The Chiefs will regret cutting LJ

Bowe's numbers regress due to lack of decent QB play.

The D gets better in the second half but still is plagued by big plays

Cassel looks more like the guy Pioli almost cut in the '08 preseason instead of the franchise QB he hoped he would be when he traded him for

Chiefs 3-13

by bonesjackson on Nov 18, 2009 12:27 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Easy now

A few people on the site and a few emails I have received. No reason to get defensive.

by Joel Thorman on Nov 18, 2009 12:33 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

if you look around ap

a few haley haters have lumped this with the many things they hate about him.

UCrawford will eventually calm down and realize that Haley isn't a bad coach.
Will embrace the Fire Haley Bandwagon if we lose to the raiders by more then a TD...
..But we aren't going to lose.
LJ will not land in Pittsburgh
The Chiefs will not be the number one pick in this years draft
The Chiefs first pick of the draft will NOT be a OL
Thinks UCrawford just needs a hug... offer is there when you are ready UC :p

by Leaf on Nov 18, 2009 1:19 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

for many of them

anything Haley does or says they get pissed.

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by kabrink on Nov 18, 2009 3:12 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

C'MON MAN!!!!

This is in no way on Todd Haley. The only thing Haley is guilty of is trying to get the best out of and underachieving player. D Bowe took the easy way out and lost weight an un-natural way.. Its ALL on D BOWE, totally in the wrong on this one.

by dwil2009 on Nov 18, 2009 12:37 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Green'd

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by Patrick Allen on Nov 18, 2009 1:24 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I don't blame Haley

THere is no secret Haley asks a lot from his players. Bowe chose to take the easy route to getting where he needed to be. The easy route, but a route that could come with some consequenses. And it did.

by DTforHOF on Nov 18, 2009 12:36 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

While it sucks Bowe is suspended...

Harping on a Coach because he demands that his players, professional athletes, be in shape when they show up for training camp is asonine. Sure, there have been some moments to dog on Haley, but he’s not the guy that showed up to camp 30 lbs. overweight. That was Bowe’s problem, he took a shortcut to get into shape, which is probably indicative of his first two years in KC, taking shortcuts, like probably not working on being a better pass catcher, he got caught, and now he’s going to deal with it. It’s unfortunate, yes, but the big thing here is that a lesson has been taught, and one can only hope that the Chiefs use these next four games to grow as a team, improve and steal a game or two during the stretch.

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by FredThreezy on Nov 18, 2009 12:43 PM CST reply actions   1 recs

I am sometimes stunned by the lack of discipline professional athletes have.

It’s no secret how to keep your fucking weight down: eat right and exercise. Add to this nonsense the fact that D. Bowe earns more than enough money to hire a nutritionist (I would be shocked the Chiefs don’t have one for him to use) or even a personal chef. How do some of these guys get to the pro level with such horrible levels of personal discipline. Hell, Glen Dorsey nearly ate himself out of the league last year.

Toby is in HR, which technically means he works for corporate, so he's really not a part of our family. Also, he's divorced, so he's really not a part of his family.

by Rev. Slappy on Nov 18, 2009 7:16 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I guess I'm in the minority here...

I dont actually blame Bowe and certainly not Haley. In this day of the many weight loss products around the Nation and the emphasis for everyone to get in shape, I cant see how a diuretic can be an enhancement to your performance. Diet pills are diet pills and that’s it I assume. Maybe I’m wrong, but it seems like the NFL is reaching at players who take this, not just Bowe. I don’t see how it will affect his career long term other than he took a known banned substance, unless it is taken out of context.
If he took illegal drugs, as would be a crime, forget what I said. But really a pill to lose weight?

Winning begins with Attitude - Haley and Pioli will be winners in KC!

I'll forever be a Chiefs fan! Only God himself could take that away from me, but when I get to my great reward, I'll rejoin two bigger fans, my Mom and Dad.

by Lanier63 on Nov 18, 2009 12:51 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Bingo

If you want to lose weight fast just turn to the Argentinean diet: cigarettes, cocaine, and bulimia.

"What?!?! I aint no Obama for the weed!"
-Turk McBride

by HIV 2 Elway on Nov 18, 2009 1:02 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I heard that is how Christian Bale lost all that weight for the Machinist

He just drank whiskey and smoked the whole time.

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by Patrick Allen on Nov 18, 2009 1:04 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Right on all accounts

but Bale also ate apples during his weight loss for the Machinist.

Haley should start encouraging his players to go that route. After all, Haley does take his management style from Christian Bale:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0auwpvAU2YA

For justice we must go to Don Pioli

by Sudden on Nov 18, 2009 1:20 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

diet pills

are used to mask other drugs sometimes

by Bra on Nov 18, 2009 1:05 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Bowe knew it was a banned substance,

And still took it. Haley didn’t force anything down Dwayne’s throat. Bowe couldn’t handle weight loss in the proper manner, and took a shortcut that cost him. His own fault, and nobody elses.

How many other players on the team lost just as much weight as Bowe, if not more, without having to resort to using diuretics or other diet pills? Especially banned substances? I see a work ethic problem here. I hope Bowe didn’t fall out of the “right 53” with this, as he’s a very talented receiver. He just needs a fire lit under his ass.

by Sam D on Nov 18, 2009 12:55 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Seriously...

If he showed up 30lbs heavier than he is now, that would put him around 250lbs!!! 6-2 250?!? Did he think he was getting moved to LB too??

by LTownChiefsFan on Nov 18, 2009 1:00 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Now I understand why he was is the doghouse.

Doesn’t look like you want to play when you show up out of shape.

No one ever says, "It's only a game" when their team is winning.
George Carlin-R.I.P.

by idahochieffan on Nov 18, 2009 1:28 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeppers.

No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.

by hmills110 on Nov 18, 2009 3:04 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

We don't know what the difference in "expected playing weight" was between the current and previous regime

Bowe might have come in 5 lbs over the weight he had been asked to be at with the previous coaching staff and Haley might have expected much more.

Same with Brandon Albert. I don’t believe for a second that he just totally let himself go and was 60 lbs over the weight he thought was going to be OK to report for.

So yeah, these guys might have come in a little over what they EXPECTED their target weight to be at and Haley and his staff expected much more.

by ChiefDJ on Nov 18, 2009 5:54 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

How about we spend

the next four weeks with the jugs machine!!!

by okoye_35 on Nov 18, 2009 1:04 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

If there were a machine that dispensed Jugs at my work

I’d have the best hands in the office.

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by KCSatchmo on Nov 18, 2009 1:10 PM CST up reply actions   2 recs

I believe that Bowe tried to take the easy way out. He has not had a structured,

disclipined life and I would guess that football, his team-mates and fans really do mean everything to him. It’s his life. Haley was right in requiring the team to get in shape and now they all know it. Hopefully, this is just another thing, a type of team discipline that will impact everyone. There is no easy way to be the best and this will be a great lesson for Bowe and he’ll be better for it. I really believe that in the long run, this will be a positive and I’d almost bet that 3-5 years from now, the Chief’s will be big winners and that Bowe will be a star and one of Haley’s biggest fans.

by jcox31mc on Nov 18, 2009 1:06 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Of course it's Haley's fault

Surely he has control over a player’s decision to spend the off season watching t.v. stuffing his face with chilli dogs & fried twinkies. Bowe knew before he ever got to camp that he wasn’t close to his playing weight.

by Town_Cryer on Nov 18, 2009 1:09 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Yeppers

No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.

by hmills110 on Nov 18, 2009 3:05 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Are you being sarcastic?

Haley coaches grown fucking men who are (allegedly) professional fucking athletes. Haley shouldn’t have to be all over them about their diets — they should be taking care of that themselves.

Toby is in HR, which technically means he works for corporate, so he's really not a part of our family. Also, he's divorced, so he's really not a part of his family.

by Rev. Slappy on Nov 18, 2009 7:21 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

This whole matter

is entirely retarded and overblown. Does anyone seriously think Bowe used steroids? No. Who cares that he used a diuretic and why in the hell will this follow him around his whole career? The only way for that to happen is if he forgets how to catch a ball during his 4 game suspension and he never makes another reception again. There’s guys who have killed and came back to play football – I don’t think a stupid water pill is going to blemish Bowe’s career one bit.

Yes, he fucked up, but to me this is just more of a reflection on how Nazi Goodell and this whole league has become. Some of the calls anymore are just assisine.

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by KansasCityShuffle on Nov 18, 2009 1:09 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Goodell is a Nazi.

But the drug policy was colelctively bargained.

Just saying…

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by KCSatchmo on Nov 18, 2009 1:11 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

The use of certain diuretics was banned in the aftermath of Corey Stringer's death by dehydration.

In any athlete, especially the big men, diuretics can be very very bad.

No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.

by hmills110 on Nov 18, 2009 3:06 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I can just hear Mr. Mackey saying "Uh, diuretics are bad."

"What?!?! I aint no Obama for the weed!"
-Turk McBride

by HIV 2 Elway on Nov 18, 2009 3:43 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

mmmkaay

haha! Rec’d.

by Petey14 on Nov 18, 2009 4:34 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

can you say Ray Lewis??

I knew you could!

Air Cassel - approved for takeoff

by kabrink on Nov 18, 2009 3:14 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

agreed,,,

it will blow over… and things will get back to normal.

by Lucasjr5 on Nov 18, 2009 5:26 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

After 4 games...

After 4 games no one will even notice this happened. Especially next year, no one will even remember. This is a weight loss drug, not a steroid to boost his muscle performance. I hate that this happened, cause I love D. Bowe, but this will be quickly forgotten on Week 15, 16, and 17.

by JASiege on Nov 18, 2009 1:16 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

i agree

stupid mistake, sure, but i don’t think a weight loss diuretic is something to be too worried about. at this point i don’t think he really even has a reputation (outside of KC) to worry about tarnishing. but i’d hope at least that most people who follow sports are smart enough to differentiate between “banned substance” instances.

by wd123 on Nov 18, 2009 2:05 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Being overweight #1 and trying to beat it with a pill #2 hurts him BIG time in my book.

It speaks to a guy who feels, at heart, that he’s entitled to his exalted status (and salary), rather than trying to EARN it.

No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.

by hmills110 on Nov 18, 2009 3:07 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

i can see where you're coming from

i dunno. i guess this would be a bigger deal if: a) bowe actually did have any sort of status outside KC, which i don’t think he does other than be a talented player on an untalented team; b) he had any sort of history with steroids/perfomance enhancing durgs; and finally c) if there was some sort of LJ-esque douche baggery attached to this (he antagonized himself during training camp or when he was “demoted” by haley, he publicly complained about absolutely anything, etc.)

as i see it his only mistake was trying to take a shortcut to getting haley-thin. he phrased it in his apology i think as doing it so he could be much quicker or something, i think, but i doubt pissing out water-weight lead to any significant advantages on the field.

i guess in the steroid era i’m hardly affected by this.

by wd123 on Nov 18, 2009 4:01 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

if your a fan

he messed up, oh well. he is by far our star player, our only somewhat of a blue chipper. i support him to the fullist and honestly will not think otherwise of him. im not gonna analyze the shit out of this, im not gonna disect it to find something to hate him for. you think that us as fans our the only ones suffering. imagine the players that give their all to try to win with the lack of talent, and lack of coaching. if your a fan, a real fan, you have seen him do good things. hes young give him a break. i will. Start the support D-Bo campaign. lets get it together. im sure pioli has a plan. truuust me. i know he does. expect huuuuge free agent signings this offseason.

by Servando on Nov 18, 2009 2:04 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

ok, blame todd haley

but also blame him for doing the SAME THING to LARRY FITZGERALD….a MUCH better reciever at the time, and currently…Ftz was able to get it done with a strong offseason workout routine/eating right…Oh and then he only improved and had one of his best seasons leading his team to the super bowl with outstanding play in the playoffs..so….you know what, I want players that can handle it, they are sure paid enough….if you look at weight lost, dorsey, these players….haley said they were eating too much jumbalaya, now I see another player he was talking about(LSU)

of course I support Bowe, but this just in no way is todd haley’s fault…thats the same as saying, well bowe got hurt running a post, todd had him running better routes, trying to make them crisp and his knee buckled, HIS FAULT? no. In this case, it wasnt even a knee, he did this under his own free will…Period

by SDChief on Nov 18, 2009 2:07 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

There was a good article in Men's Fitness recently about Fitzgerald's training regimen.

That guys works out like a beast. In fact, here’s a quote from him in the article:

“If you want to be great you have to come to the understanding that you have to put in the work.”

Bowe could learn a lot from Larry Fitzgerald.

Toby is in HR, which technically means he works for corporate, so he's really not a part of our family. Also, he's divorced, so he's really not a part of his family.

by Rev. Slappy on Nov 18, 2009 7:29 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

steep price to pay

I thought you may get a slap on wrist then a suspension 2nd time around. I think this issue is big league wide. Where does he get the idea? Who tells him this? Trainers, players? How random is testing? Who gets tested? When? The issue concerns more than Bowe’s actual suspension. Probably weren’t going to win too many of the 4 games with him. I’m assuming its Wade, Chambers, Bradley and Long.

Mr J
KC Chiefs Fan

by Mr J on Nov 18, 2009 2:13 PM CST via mobile reply actions   0 recs

...

… all of whom have a step or three on Bowe. Offense may actually be MORE explosive without, quite frankly.

No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.

by hmills110 on Nov 18, 2009 3:10 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I see it as a self displine issue

D-Bowe was not motivated enough in the off season to stay in shape and work on his game. Came in over weight and had to go through Haley weight loss sessions. There was a BUNCH of guys in the doghouse for showing up fat. Haley was not even letting them practice until they made weight. Bowe decided to cheat. Plain and simple.
 
D-Bowe looks no better this yr than last yr. He will never be an elite reciever in this league until he learns to catch the ball.Great recievers work during the offseason to improve whether its a technique issue or a mental issue. I think D Bowe is more interested in the lifestyle of being a pro FB player than actually being the best. Jerry Rice, the best of all time, worked his ass of during the off season to improve even though everyone knew he was the best. And you can bet that he never showed up to camp overweight.

Hopefully, this hits him hard. A little shame and embarrassment could light a fire under his ass and make him want to change. He is very gifted, he just needs polish.

by KCinAZ on Nov 18, 2009 3:12 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Just thank the lord this happened now

instead of during a year when we were actually playing for something other than draft position, really im glad he got suspended it will make him work harder hopefully, and whos going to be foolish enuff to show up to next yrs camp overweight ?

by NakedBootleg on Nov 18, 2009 3:17 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

yr 2

 i said other post haley/chiefs will need to post legal drugs for team

by kcstevesportsfan on Nov 18, 2009 3:50 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

People

who blame Haley are just LOOKING for things they can blame on Haley.

Yes, Haley wanted Dbowe to lose weight. Did he want DBowe to lose weight for no reason? NO! DBowe needed to lose the damn weight!

Did Haley tell Bowe to take an illegal substance to lose weight? NO! Bowe could have spent extra time conditioning, could have sent extra time on the bike or treadmill after practice, changed up his diet, sat in a sauna..there are a million things that Bowe COULD have done had he been willing to sacrifice his oh so precious free time.

Now, DBowe was my favorite player. He still is 1 of my favorite players. But now Flowers has moved up to my favorite. DBowe might not be on steroids, but like someone else pointed out, he tried to take a shortcut. Shortcuts get you nowhere in the NFL and I cant respect someone 100% knowing they tried to take an illegal shortcut. I think of it like a Nascar driver speeding through pit lane like it was a short cut. Cant do that.

I still respect Bowe..its not like he was using a steroid. I respect Bowe because he owned up to his mistake, is not appealing it because he knows hes wrong, and had the right intention..just not the right mindset. He wanted to lose weight to help his team. I respect that, but I dont respect the route he took to do so.

I dont think this will follow him..it wasnt a steroid..its HARDLY “performance enhancing”. I just hope he learns from this, works hard, and has a good comeback in 4 weeks.

by Petey14 on Nov 18, 2009 4:40 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Its no different

than the Rashard Lewis incident. Whether Bowe knew it was illegal or not (seems that he knew it was) he is responsible for what goes into his body.

by Petey14 on Nov 18, 2009 4:41 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I like how his weight gets more and more exaggerated with every story

Back during training camp it was widely reported that he had been 20 lbs overweight.

Read an article yesterday saying 25, now this one saying 30.

by ChiefDJ on Nov 18, 2009 5:49 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

I heard a kid looking for autographs mistook Bowe for Whitlock.

Toby is in HR, which technically means he works for corporate, so he's really not a part of our family. Also, he's divorced, so he's really not a part of his family.

by Rev. Slappy on Nov 18, 2009 7:32 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Until Bowe spoke to the kid

and the kid realized what was being said was intelligent. At that point he knew it wasn’t Whitlock.

by BCRavenJHawkfan on Nov 18, 2009 8:25 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

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