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Chiefs Sign Former Cardinals RB Tim Castille

Tim_castille2_mediumNo one will ever read it but I had just finished typing a post on the Chiefs open roster spot and expecting it to be filled quickly.  Well, I was right (even if I can't prove it).

The Chiefs have signed Tim Castille, a 5'11" 242 pound RB/FB most recently last season in Arizona under the Haley-led Cardinals offense.

Castille only caught four balls for 11 yards in 14 appearances last season, his second since being an UDFA out of Alabama.

In my aforementioned post that I now can't publish, I guessed the next Chief would not be a RB.  So far I'd say the running game has improved, kind of an addition by subtraction with the release of Larry Johnson.

Castille was originally brought onto the Cardinals in 2007, and then released on September 5th of this year, the final cutdown day.

His Chiefs connection is of course Todd Haley.

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He was a stud at Bama with Brodie

I know that much but thats about it. Can be a real bruiser.

he was injured. injured bad.

by troy145 on Nov 17, 2009 5:38 PM CST reply actions  

You think he's giving Cox a run for his money

or Savage/Smith?

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by KansasCityShuffle on Nov 17, 2009 5:41 PM CST reply actions  

He'll push Cox

Savage/Smith are both very different backs than Castille/Cox. I’ve never seen anything to make me truly dislike Cox but I’ve never really seen anything to make me fight for him either. We could definitely use a big bruising FB to help out in pass coverage and help our RBs break into the second level more frequently so hopefully Castille is an improvement in that direction.

Bask in the glory that is Kwame Harris. Poor Alex...

by JHWK on Nov 17, 2009 5:50 PM CST up reply actions  

Cox never stops playing.

He makes his block then gets downfield. You’ll see he’s always there to help up the receiver/runner, and he’s usualy the first to join someone in the endzone to celebrate.

by NJ Chiefs Fan on Nov 18, 2009 8:13 AM CST up reply actions  

Why?

There is enough RB’s on the roster.
What about Javarris Williams? 5’10 223 lbs. They are both big backs?

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by craig in calgary on Nov 17, 2009 5:41 PM CST reply actions  

Javarris is from a tiiiiiny ass school

and was drafted as a project with HUGE upside if he pans out, which is why he’s on the PS at the moment.

Bask in the glory that is Kwame Harris. Poor Alex...

by JHWK on Nov 17, 2009 5:52 PM CST up reply actions  

I am a little surprised to see

us not bring up Williams. I think after Savage’s play last week, it was clear we needed to add another body at running back. Hopefully Castille can have some success running between the tackles, throwing some weight around.

by Clarry on Nov 17, 2009 6:02 PM CST up reply actions  

Ok I know people always bitch when we only seem to be signing Haley/Pioli connections

But seriously? I’m not upset by the signing it could turn out to help us, But I do feel like they haven’t expanded their search for those 22 players off the street. He should have said, 22 players off the Cards and Pats rosters could win 2 games.

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by Shawn on Nov 17, 2009 5:43 PM CST reply actions  

Wait a minute

Saskwatch would need to confirm this…doesn’t this make 22 now?

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by craig in calgary on Nov 17, 2009 5:44 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah

They should look at phone kiosks for running backs off the street

Worked for Denver

by Boots 58 on Nov 17, 2009 5:45 PM CST up reply actions  

Don't forget Barry Word

He was a guy off of the street, Kurt Warner was a guy off of the street, some of those guys off of the street aren’t half bad.

by mcclanahanman on Nov 17, 2009 6:12 PM CST up reply actions  

Don't you mean

22 players that couln’t make the Cards and Pats rosters could win 2 games?

by Scott B. on Nov 17, 2009 7:32 PM CST up reply actions  

+1

Just like novocaine. give it time; always works..

by be cee on Nov 17, 2009 7:56 PM CST up reply actions  

You don't like Cox?

I’m not sure he’s been playing so bad that he needs competition (especially at FB).

by Joel Thorman on Nov 17, 2009 5:50 PM CST up reply actions  

agreed

you cant complain too much about a UDFA that doesnt excite the world but still holds onto the starting gig for two years in a row

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by Bashman on Nov 17, 2009 6:03 PM CST up reply actions  

Cox doesn't have an easy job.

We’ve all commented on how hard it is to run behind our offensive line. Imagine trying to block for a guy when the five guys in front of you are hardly blocking anybody.

Consistency is only a value if you are not a screw up.

by schraggyj on Nov 17, 2009 6:29 PM CST up reply actions  

Tony Richardson

sets the bar pretty high.

by Matt89 on Nov 17, 2009 6:11 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

He loves Cox

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by KansasCityShuffle on Nov 17, 2009 5:51 PM CST up reply actions   2 recs

There's just never been anything

to make me lean either way on him. What I do know is that the fact that I almost never notice he’s on the field is a bad thing. Granted, FBs are generally the “unsung hero” of the backfield but a good NFL FB should be noticed at least occasionally and I’m only seeing Cox when he’s lined up out wide as a blocker for screens.

Bask in the glory that is Kwame Harris. Poor Alex...

by JHWK on Nov 17, 2009 5:56 PM CST up reply actions  

that’s what she said??

"We're not losers, we just can't win!"

by chief Stevie_k on Nov 17, 2009 5:57 PM CST up reply actions   2 recs

Cox was a Chan Gailey guy

If I remember right.

I think it was posted on the “Is Sean Ryan the worst player in the NFL?” FanPost that Cox was by far the worst FB in the NFL and one of the worst players in the league.

Coincidently, a few days after the post Sean Ryan is deactivated in favor of Leonard Pope and Brad Cottam and now we bring in a new FB to push Cox. Maybe Scott Pioli does read Arrowhead Pride!!!!!??

Anway, as Pioli said in this offseason, this team is always going to look for ways to improve the team. A good FB can really open up the run game (see Tony Richardson). I am not saying I don’t like Mike Cox I just think he is a below average player. Just saying “we have bigger needs” isn’t an excuse for not making an improvement if an improvement can be made.

I can see why you guys like Mike Cox though and I won’t judge you for it. Everyone likes playing with Mike Cox….too far?

by Nick Britt on Nov 17, 2009 6:10 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

honestly

why complain about pulling more cardinals…Pope was an upgrade, Long was an upgrade…I just dont get why people are so angry about it…this is what you must do, go get players you KNOW, players you TRUST, it must happen when you have a team full of guys you cant trust, guys like pollard/LJ who are terrible for the locker room….

is what it is.

by SDChief on Nov 17, 2009 5:50 PM CST reply actions  

when arizona went to the superbowl

and new england is perennial playoff team, their junk players are probably going to be better than a team with how many losses the last few years?
hence the 22 off the street.
i don’t think people are really mad that he guys are coming from arizona or new england, just that pioli/haley haven’t gotten some of the bigger name guys that people want them to, especially at OL so the gripe about the connection….

"We're not losers, we just can't win!"

by chief Stevie_k on Nov 17, 2009 6:00 PM CST up reply actions  

also sometimes they make it sound like its so easy

“ is available, get him!”

What if said player doesn’t want to play on the Chiefs. What if theres something the general public doesn’t know about the player (injuries, issues, motivation, where he lives, money) etc. I’m sure they think things over before signing. Just because Pioli doesn’t twitter every little thought, doesn’t mean his head isn’t calculating.

by worc on Nov 17, 2009 6:24 PM CST up reply actions  

Exactly.

People bitch first, think later. These are good teams and Pioli/Haley know them best. It is less of a crap shoot. As time goes on, that will fade, but for now, they need to take full advantage of their inside information.

by ChiefConcern on Nov 17, 2009 7:34 PM CST up reply actions  

yeah, every team does it

I was just looking at some other SB posts, AZ fans were complaining about too many former Steelers players when Wisenhunt came on board.

Mangini and McDaniels have taken lots of players from their old clubs, too.

* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season
* Stats are for losers

by stagdsp on Nov 17, 2009 7:41 PM CST up reply actions  

Mike Cox...

…Has anyone ever thought of putting Cox at the TE position, at least in some packages. Hey it works for Chris Cooley, Mike is no Cooley but they have the same build. except Mike is 6’0", Colley is 6’3". Cox is a little short for the position but he can block and I have seen him catch a few balls, doesn’t look like he has hands completely made of stone like Copper. It’s always something I have wanted to see the Chiefs experiment with him.

Leave the gun. Take the cannoli.

by BigRedChief on Nov 17, 2009 6:01 PM CST reply actions  

no need...

a FB can come out of the backfield and catch some passes.

no need to line him up as a TE… they could throw to him as a FB.

* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season
* Stats are for losers

by stagdsp on Nov 17, 2009 7:42 PM CST up reply actions  

Ah-ha-ha-ha

Has anyone noticed that his rushing average is 2.7?

by route 66 on Nov 17, 2009 6:10 PM CST reply actions  

Route 66

Oh-I checked again and that was receiving average—he didn’t have any rushes, but the 2.7 is still funny.

by route 66 on Nov 17, 2009 6:23 PM CST up reply actions  

Is Castille big enough to play FB?

Has he played it in the past? I haven’t heard much about this guy but my first thought would be he seems a little small for it to be a given that he will play FB.

I also was kind of thinking that maybe they would pull up Lawrence to try punt returning, but this is fine too I guess. My hope is that Wade will take punts next week. At least he is reliable.

by Lucasjr5 on Nov 17, 2009 6:16 PM CST reply actions  

Castille better be the next coming of T-Rich

At least he can block better than LJ….well I can block better than LJ so the bar wasn’t set that high to begin with.

by Ren on Nov 17, 2009 6:22 PM CST reply actions  

no big deal

the 54th man on a 53 man roster…

just filling up an empty space

IF they get anything out of him, it’s bonus

* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season
* Stats are for losers

by stagdsp on Nov 17, 2009 6:30 PM CST reply actions  

He is a pretty big dude,

I believe T-Rich is around 250 pounds, might be a good addition. Can he pass block, is he afraid to slam it in the hole for a short gain if needed, what about ball security, does he fumble much?

Good move by the Chiefs org, glad to see LJ gone.

by Eric Allen on Nov 17, 2009 6:32 PM CST reply actions  

was just reading about him on SB Nation...
Castille’s versatility out of the backfield and prowess on special teams gives him a shot.

they say his blocking has “greatly improved” but he’s not “a sledgehammer”

Can catch passes and block and play special teams, but not your traditional fullback

* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season
* Stats are for losers

by stagdsp on Nov 17, 2009 6:55 PM CST up reply actions  

Wait are you talking about

Castille still? Because we all know Mike Cox is never afraid to slam it in the hole for a short gain, always secures his balls and almost NEVER fumbles.

Sorry, you walked into that one

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by mugglemage on Nov 18, 2009 9:42 AM CST up reply actions  

If he doesn't work out

Toby Gerhart from Stanford would look real good in a chiefs uniform.

by palomarchief on Nov 17, 2009 6:45 PM CST reply actions  

c'mon REALLY!?!?!?!

this addition is weak sauce. I was actually expecting to see Q Lawrence get back to the active roster. At least give him a chance to get some experience. It would probably go a long ways to developing him (the season is lost anyways). Castille is a just a filler. There is no future for him with us

I don't want no Yo-Yos

by CaptainPoopDeck on Nov 17, 2009 6:57 PM CST reply actions  

well...

obviously, because they’ve been de-activating Wade, they have one too many WR on the active roster.

Wade, Long, Chambers, Bradley, Copper… that’s the active roster for WR. Copper will continue to be ST only, so you’ll see plenty more of Bradley and Wade, I think.

Castille is probably a filler, I agree, but he could make a special teams contribution or eventually take over for Cox… you never know…

either way, it’s a low-risk move.

Lawrence will be a big part of the team, but I think it’ll be next year.
same with Williams and (of course) colin brown…
really won’t be able to evaluate the draft class until after next year

* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season
* Stats are for losers

by stagdsp on Nov 17, 2009 7:10 PM CST reply actions  

D-Bowe goes for a 2nd rd pick in the 2010 draft

We will win 2 of the next 4 games without Bowe, and will trade him for a 2nd Rd pick. Chambers, Wade and Long will step it up because they have an opportunity here. And the Spectre of this entire incident will be purged form the annals of Chiefsdom.

I'm not a smart man

by Gumpster on Nov 17, 2009 7:48 PM CST reply actions  

totally disagree about Bowe...

but I wouldn’t mind winning 2 of the next 4!!!!

* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season
* Stats are for losers

by stagdsp on Nov 17, 2009 7:49 PM CST up reply actions  

See my new FanShot...

Savage was injured (while playing poorly)
and will probably miss the game.

Thus, Castille does fill a need this weekend for depth at RB

* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season
* Stats are for losers

by stagdsp on Nov 17, 2009 8:04 PM CST reply actions  

AND... his familiarity with Haley's offense should help him get ready quickly

* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season
* Stats are for losers

by stagdsp on Nov 17, 2009 8:04 PM CST up reply actions  

WTF! We just need a back that can hang on to the frick'n ball. What are Haley and Pioli smoking?

Things are coiming into focus.
I just saw where the Bills fired the head coach and promoted one of the coordinators, defensive I think.
So it all makes sense now. Haley fired Chan so that there was not a qualified coordinator to take his place thus forcing Pioli to keep him the duration.

by BCRavenJHawkfan on Nov 17, 2009 8:05 PM CST reply actions  

what?

* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season
* Stats are for losers

by stagdsp on Nov 17, 2009 8:06 PM CST up reply actions  

Which part

the hanging on to the damn ball or the getting rid of Chan Galey conspiracy I just cracked?

by BCRavenJHawkfan on Nov 17, 2009 8:09 PM CST up reply actions  

well...

not sure what you were getting at with the “damn ball”… the fumbles were caused by bad handoffs this week… and were you saying that Castille fumbles a lot?

And, Gailey wasn’t fired, he’s still on staff… so theoretically, IF Haley’s job were in jeopardy, Gailey could step in. However, it’s year one for Haley, and he’s on the same page with Pioli, so my guess is that he is in NO danger of losing his job related to this season… I’m betting they both agreed that this year was likely going to be a tough one, as the rebuilding process is just getting started. Pioli is probably pleased with Haley so far.

* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season
* Stats are for losers

by stagdsp on Nov 17, 2009 8:13 PM CST up reply actions  

yes.

he was “fired” as OC, but retained on staff in some other capacity

* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season
* Stats are for losers

by stagdsp on Nov 17, 2009 8:27 PM CST up reply actions  

Well son'bitch

Next thing I’ll learn is we are really 7 & 2 not 2 & 7.

by BCRavenJHawkfan on Nov 17, 2009 8:32 PM CST up reply actions  

haha... that'd be nice

I’d settle for 4-5 with 2 wins over Oakland and one over Dallas

* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season
* Stats are for losers

by stagdsp on Nov 17, 2009 8:33 PM CST up reply actions  

maybe I was wrong
Haley later said that Gailey will remain with the organization in some capacity, but his new role has yet to be defined. Gailey is likely to resume his work with the Chiefs in the operations/personnel side of things.

Well, I couldn’t find much about Gailey on the Chiefs site… so I’m not sure that he actually did take that “diminished role”…

* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season
* Stats are for losers

by stagdsp on Nov 17, 2009 8:33 PM CST up reply actions  

Doesn't matter

I was only being caddy about Haley and the coaching situation.

by BCRavenJHawkfan on Nov 17, 2009 8:38 PM CST up reply actions  

gotcha

it was a good conspiracy theory, as conspiracy theories go

:)

* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season
* Stats are for losers

by stagdsp on Nov 17, 2009 8:41 PM CST up reply actions  

OH, Savage... he fumbled that punt...

I didn’t get to see the whole game, but I remember that “lowlight”

that didn’t help his cause.

plus, he got hurt…

so, this guy, Castille, will be the #3 RB and special teams player

Wade will be back to returning punts

* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season
* Stats are for losers

by stagdsp on Nov 17, 2009 8:35 PM CST up reply actions  

And not the first or just the second punt or kick he has fumbled or muffed.

Wade has proven he can catch and hang on to the ball. That satisfies me.

by BCRavenJHawkfan on Nov 17, 2009 8:40 PM CST up reply actions  

+1

We have no explosive return guys. We just need one to hang onto the ball and make good decisions.

by Lucasjr5 on Nov 18, 2009 12:26 AM CST up reply actions  

Give Haley the time to turn this thing around!!!

Your link clearly says that he was relieved of his duties. Dick Jauron was with the Bills for four years. Let’s say we give Haley the same amount of time.

And with the 5th pick of the 2010 NFL Draft the Kansas City Chiefs pick........

by Hoody25 on Nov 17, 2009 8:30 PM CST reply actions  

Please, don't play politics using symantics of his release.

If he is not visibly contributing he is no longer part of the organization.

by BCRavenJHawkfan on Nov 17, 2009 8:43 PM CST up reply actions  

fair enough

but, I agree that Haley has a much longer “leash” than most people on here are saying

* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season
* Stats are for losers

by stagdsp on Nov 17, 2009 8:51 PM CST up reply actions  

whoa

LJ was 27 2.7 ypc we as a team are 2-7

by kcchiefs19 on Nov 18, 2009 2:38 AM CST reply actions  

I can see why people are concerned

when P&H bring in yet another player with which they have some familiarity. But it shouldn’t be a surprise. Herm Edwards did it. Dick Vermeil did it. Marty Shottenheimer did it. Gunther Cunningham would have done it, too, except that he’d been with the Chiefs in the previous seasons.

It’s completely normal for HCs and GMs to bring players and coaches from their previous organizations to their new teams.

John

"Gentlemen! You can't fight in here. This is the War Room!"

by RDOGuy on Nov 18, 2009 10:44 AM CST reply actions  

It's a shame that Castille hasn't been able to do much in the pros.

He was a solid back on some average Bama teams.

Something to chew on though, Castille couldn’t out play Hightower from UofR on the Cardinals.

He does fill a need, and you can only hope he shows something that helps us out.

by tebunker on Nov 18, 2009 7:01 PM CST reply actions  

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