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The Power of Perception

From the FanPosts  -Joel

In one of the memorable quotes from the 2002 film Catch Me If You Can, Frank Abignale asks his young son why he thinks the Yankees always win.  "Because they have Mickey Mantle?" wonders Frank Jr. "No," responds his father. "It's because the other teams can't stop staring at those damn pinstripes."

The elder Abignale was talking about the incredible power of image and perception.  And it is image and perception that lie at the heart of the arguments now raging between Chiefs fans regarding the administration of general manager Scott Pioli and head coach Todd Haley.

You see… we just can't stop staring at those damn Super Bowl rings.

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Years before Clark Hunt engaged Pioli, the former VP of Player Personnel for the New England Patriots had been on the short list for other NFL owners eager to obtain a top-flight GM to turn their franchises around.  But it wasn't because Pioli had any actual experience as a GM.  He had none.  Zilch.  Nada.

That's not to say Pioli wasn't qualified for the job.  In fact, he was very well qualified.  Most GMs have exactly the same background as Pioli - that is, experience as top personnel executives with good teams - before they take their first GM position.
 
But in their pursuit of Pioli, the owners just couldn't stop staring at those damn Super Bowl rings.

At New England, Pioli was even a three time winner of the NFL Executive Of The Year award given by The Sporting News - along with a number of similar awards given by other publications and organizations.  Not that any of these institutions had any clue what kind of work Pioli was actually doing behind the scenes at New England, you understand - none of them, after all, were given by industry peers.

But the people who gave those awards just couldn't stop staring at those damn Super Bowl rings.

Unlike Pioli, Todd Haley doesn't have any Super Bowl rings.  Oh, sure… he might have gotten one if the ball had bounced a little differently in last season's Super Bowl.  But his father Dick - the personnel director of the Steelers from 1971 to 1990 - has four of them. 

After Todd decided he didn't want to be a golf pro any longer - despite his family football pedigree, his original dream was to play on the PGA Tour - his father helped him land a scouting job with the Jets, where the elder Haley was serving as player personnel director.  Haley the younger then started working his way through the NFL, working as an assistant to Bill Parcells (who has a pair of Super Bowl rings) on the Jets and Cowboys, and then finally as an offensive coordinator for Ken Whisenhunt - who has a Super Bowl ring of his own from his time with the Steelers.

Haley, too, is well qualified for the job he assumed for the Chiefs.  Like most head coaches, his resume includes experience as a scout, position coach and coordinator.  But also like Pioli, he has no previous experience at his job.  None.  Zilch.  Nada.

Just the same, people can't stop staring at… uhhh… the light reflected from all those damn Super Bowl rings.

None of this is to say that either Pioli or Haley is the wrong guy for the Chiefs at this point in the history of the franchise.  Despite their status as rookies in their current jobs, no one can dispute that these guys are extremely well qualified.

Not, of course, that it hasn't been tried.

In a spacial relationship Casey Stengel would have appreciated, there are three sides to this debate:

On one side - to coin a non-perjorative term - we have the Gold Team.  These are the Chiefs fans who are mesmerized by the light glinting off all those golden rings.  "Don't worry," they say.  "These guys know what they're doing.  It may seem nonsensical right now, but they have a plan, and they're putting it into place.  We couldn't be any more than a couple of seasons removed from being a real contender.  Otherwise, why would these guys have so many Super Bowl rings around them?"

On another side, we have the Red Team.  These Chiefs fans - while they might live elsewhere - have a Missouri frame of reference.  You have to show them something.  "Hey," they say.  "Pioli and Haley are rookies who haven't yet proved a damn thing.  For all we know, Pioli could be nothing without Belichick, and Haley could be nothing without Warner, Fitzgerald and Boldin."  To these fans, the firing of the offensive coordinator days before the season opener, and what they see as questionable roster moves and game time decisions - not to mention a W-L record that is, so far, no improvement over the last season's debacle - haven't done much to allay their concerns.

Then we have the third side: the White Team.  Like members of the Gold Team, these Chiefs fans generally have respect for Pioli and Haley's previous accomplishments, but also share some of the misgivings of the Red Team.  To this they add another concern:  that P&H have systematically dismantled a core of solid young players - a core it cost the franchise the better part of two horrible years to acquire and develop - in the name of finding P&H's mystical "right 53." These fans worry that if the new regime can't find its way, the franchise will not only have to start over with an entirely new administration, but that they'll have to start from scratch on the roster, too - because talented early round draft choices like McBride, Tyler, Johnson, Pollard and Croyle will have been sacrificed for no discernable reason.  The White Teamers are afraid that his could start a talent chain reaction that could keep the Chiefs in the cellar for a very long time.

Which of these teams of diehard fans has the right answer?  All of them.  And none of them.

Given the horrendous record of the last two seasons, Clark Hunt had no choice but to find real stars to take over his franchise.  While you can make a reasonable argument that Hunt's selection process took longer than most - and therefore left him with slim pickings in the coaching market - I have come to believe that choices like Pioli and Haley were exactly what Hunt had in mind from the beginning: young, aggressive men who, if successful, could serve the franchise for decades… but more importantly, could point to championships on their resumes - even if only by association.  The long-frustrated Chiefs fan base could accept no less.

So whether an individual fan is willing to accept P&H's pedigrees at face value is of no consequence.  We were bound to get them - or someone very much like them - once Carl Peterson stepped down.

Clark Hunt also knew that while he wanted to have more control over the franchise than his father exercised, too much control is a bad thing.  He would know this as instinctively as a child raised on UAW barbecues knows to pull the Democratic lever in the voting booth, or a child raised on debutante balls on the south lawn of the Nelson Art Gallery knows to reach for the Republican one - because in the Hunt family, it is axiomatic: if it's done the way Al Davis does it, it's wrong.

So whoever took over at One Arrowhead Drive was bound to have the keys for Dad's red 1969 GTO convertible handed to them with very few preconditions, little interference in the way they did things, and plenty of time to get it right.  And therefore, fans who are worried that the gut instincts of Scott Pioli and Todd Haley will lead to the ruin of this proud franchise are just going to have to tough it out.  Only time will tell if P&H can locate the hard-to-find parts that will be needed to restore this vintage machine to showroom condition.

There can now be no question that it's going to take a couple more seasons for the Gold Team to be proven right.  There's also no question that until the issue is settled, the arguments between the teams will continue.

There is good news, though: in their hearts, both the Red and White teams will be more than happy to be convinced that they're wrong.

Poll
With which team do you most strongly identify?
The Gold Team
113 votes
The Red Team
304 votes
The White Team
136 votes

553 votes | Poll has closed

This is a FanPost and does not necessarily reflect the views of Arrowhead Pride's writers or editors. It does reflect the views of this particular fan though, which is as important as the views of Arrowhead Pride writers or editors.

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Are you saying

we need to redesign the uniform to have pinstripes now?

Blame my wife!
Waiting until August 2010

by sir eccles on Nov 17, 2009 5:06 PM CST reply actions  

God forbid!

But very funny!

John

"Gentlemen! You can't fight in here. This is the War Room!"

by RDOGuy on Nov 17, 2009 5:07 PM CST up reply actions  

I like it

Predictions for 2009:

The Chiefs will regret cutting LJ

Bowe's numbers regress due to lack of decent QB play.

The D gets better in the second half but still is plagued by big plays

Cassel looks more like the guy Pioli almost cut in the '08 preseason instead of the franchise QB he hoped he would be when he traded him for

Chiefs 3-13

by bonesjackson on Nov 17, 2009 5:12 PM CST reply actions  

I'm gold, but not blind

When we signed on with P&H, us gold teamers only agreed to give them the time it takes to turn this ship around. That’s two seasons until an evaluation can be made. At the end of 2010, we’ll give them a critical look. In the meantime, we can rant and rail and call them stupid and the wrong choice. It’s not going to matter for at least another season and a half.

Four wins this season will give me all the ammo I need to be patient.

Great post. Wrecked.

by Ozarks on Nov 18, 2009 8:27 AM CST up reply actions  

I voted the gold team

Although I agree with KCporkchop. I am sure that many who think Poili will turn this around are not the gullible sheeply followers of Pioli depicted as the Gold Team.

I actually do not agree with alot of what you wrote…but I think it will get people to think.

rec’d

Bewsaf

by Bewsaf on Nov 17, 2009 5:20 PM CST reply actions  

White team here......

I’m not the biggest fan of Haley yet based on the fact that it took LJ messing up big time before we finally saw Charles as the feature back…….and most of us knew based on our current roster and what Haley is used to doing on offense that Charles was a much better fit (and it showed last week). He is a rookie coach, but damn we should look more prepared than we do every week. Regardless, I think (or hope) he is learning from his mistakes and is getting better. And I think we need to stick with him as much as he confuses us sometimes because I don’t wanna start over again next year. So I’m gonna rep the white team for now and just sip on some Tang (almost Kool-Aid but was never as good)

by Hail2DaChiefs on Nov 17, 2009 5:23 PM CST reply actions  

Let's hope it works out.

A coach is made by his QB (see: Belichick & Brady) and a GM is made by his head coach (see Pioli & Belichick). I give it two more years after this one. If we aren’t near-playoff bound then it’s time to bring a box to Haley’s office and to show him the door and to leave his key

by His Royal Greatness on Nov 17, 2009 5:48 PM CST reply actions  

Can I bee the orange team?

A little bit of Gold and a Little bit of Red?

This space for rent.

by averagegatsby on Nov 17, 2009 6:14 PM CST reply actions  

Post started out strong...

…but your 3 categories don’t even come close to comprising the range of fan feelings on the topic. The description of the “teams” seem heavily biased by the writers feelings, such that I feel confident in assuming the writer considers himself/herself part of the “white” team.

I consider myself part of the “realist team”, which has the following attributes:
- We feel Pioli and Haley were qualified and deserve a chance to prove themselves.
- 9 games is not enough to prove themselves either way
- They are rookies, make rookie mistakes, and most importantly have ACCOUNTABILITY for their mistakes (compared to the previous regime), therefore will likely learn from them.

by VermeilLikesToCry on Nov 17, 2009 6:17 PM CST reply actions   1 recs

Im in the "realist team"

We like perspective on our team…

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by woodman212 on Nov 17, 2009 6:19 PM CST up reply actions  

but your 3 categories don’t even come close to comprising the range of fan feelings on the topic. The description of the "teams" seem heavily biased by the writers feelings

I agree completely. That is why I didn’t vote. I have trouble choosing when the choices are so obviously biased by the writers judgments on the fans who believe in their respective teams.

Rings do dazzle to some extent, but I would resent someone claiming that rings are all that I care about when deciding whether or not a coach\gm is doing a good job.

Good post, though. Made me think. :-)

by Lucasjr5 on Nov 17, 2009 6:29 PM CST up reply actions  

Would like to revote.

Take my vote for the “Gold Team” off, and mark it next to the “Realist Team”.

by ChiefsFan90s on Nov 17, 2009 7:35 PM CST up reply actions  

Gold Team

I feel that Pioli and Haley will get the job done. Clark Hunt is choosing to let Pioli run the football operations, Someone else runs the business side. The core leadership is set IMO. Now anything/everything below that level is Free Fire. New Coordinators Oh Hell Ya.
Players that fit the scheme Oh Hell Ya.

Now if someone needs to feel the Heat. That would be Clark Hunt. If you don’t agree with the direction of the Team Write HIM! It is HIS team and that is more than enough for me to support HIS choice of GM and the GM’s choice of Head Coach.

I am sick of the players being the focus. We have a whole class of Clowns, getting paid millions that don’t do their jobs. When Joe lunchpail who isn’t a STAR can do the job get paid well and make us a better team of 53.

Done. Pant, pant, whew!
Geaux Chiefs

We Will kick at least 4 Teams Asses in 09
And Succop will be the Key in two of them. Washington & Oakland!
" Think and talk positive football off the field." Hank Stram

by Steve_Chiefs on Nov 17, 2009 6:27 PM CST reply actions   1 recs

Just for the record...

I hereby apologize to any potential Gold Teamers who feel that I glibly dismissed a legitimate belief in Pioli and Haley. In point of fact, I think their resumes – not just the rings they or their mentors possess – are sufficient to support such a belief. I said several times that Pioli and Haley are both well qualified to hold their current jobs. I would even be willing to expand on that, and say that both are probably more qualified than most rookie GMs or HCs.

I did not mean to imply that Gold Teamers do not think for themselves, or cannot see beyond the glitter. It was merely a literary device that arose after I thought of using the quote from the film.

I certainly agree that three teams are not nearly enough to quantify the range of opinions and emotions among Chiefs fans. But our uniforms have only three colors, and I was hoping that this article might provide an alternative to perjorative terms like “kool-ad drinker” and “hater.”

Oh… and VermeilLikesToCry… I’m a guy. As in RDOGuy. :-)

John

"Gentlemen! You can't fight in here. This is the War Room!"

by RDOGuy on Nov 17, 2009 6:55 PM CST reply actions  

i find that i'm really none of them

while i argue against the red and white teams on a regular basis, i’m not really gold either. i think both guys deserve a chance regardless of their pedigree. i’d say this about any new gm/coach we would have. i don’t think it’s possible for anyone, less they be jesus christ, to have turned this team around yet. i know the common argument to this is that they expect results not a turn around, and i think that is a fair argument. those people would obviously do things differently but i don’t think it’s any more right then the way p&h are doing things now. there are things they do that i question all the time but i’m willing to give them the benefit of the doubt for at least the start of next season.

UCrawford will eventually calm down and realize that Haley isn't a bad coach.
Will embrace the Fire Haley Bandwagon if we lose to the raiders by more then a TD...
..But we aren't going to lose.
LJ will not land in Pittsburgh
The Chiefs will not be the number one pick in this years draft
The Chiefs first pick of the draft will NOT be a OL
Thinks UCrawford just needs a hug... offer is there when you are ready UC :p

by Leaf on Nov 17, 2009 7:12 PM CST reply actions  

I'll go with realism

While I sit back and sip my koolaid. Having been part of management teams that resurrected nearly dead businesses and turned them into money machines, I have a different view than someone who has never been through that PROCESS. So far what I see is the right approach. That doesn’t mean I think they have not made mistakes. Of course they have and will continue to do so. The only way to avoid mistakes is to not do anything…and that is a mistake in and of itself. The important thing is to learn from your mistakes, grow and move forward. But the really important thing is to be consistent in what you ask, and how you act. If you are emotional and fiery and care about what you are doing and the whole thing improving, people will get with the program or get gone. You will lose some good people because they don’t like your style. But over time, people will realize that if you want to do it right and take pride in the results, that this is the place to be, and you will attract a higher grade of people than the ones you lost. This is reality as I see it and have lived it. Excuse me, but I need to go refill my glass of koolaid.

Chiefs go 9-7. LJ makes 1400 yards. DBowe makes 1200 yards. Defense #18.
10/28--The Koolaid buzz is beginning to wear off. Maybe drop this back to my original thoughts on the year. Chiefs go 6-10 (and that my be optimistic!). LJ gets a restraining order to stay 1400 yards away from the Chiefs. I'll let the rest stand for now.

by Zodeman on Nov 17, 2009 7:15 PM CST reply actions   1 recs

Good article

But I belong to neither team I’m the the black team. The team that will give these guys time to turn things around. Next Haley needs to at least come close to .500 to justify keeping him beyond next season. When I say close I mean no lower than 6 and 10 or 7 and 9 pending if Cassell is healthy because that can play a big part in the win loss record. As for Pioli he has to improve the roster as well to prove his worth. From o-line to wideout, to even adding another OLB opposite of Tamba, and a young nose guard to go in the mix with Glenn & T-jax. So I say give these guy at least 2 years to prove what they can do before any fan passses judgment

by joed2001 on Nov 17, 2009 7:34 PM CST reply actions  

Realist team!

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by woodman212 on Nov 17, 2009 9:31 PM CST up reply actions  

Great post

I agree with pretty much everything and it was one of the most enjoyable posts that I have read on here. I think people are looking too much into the “teams” idea. I think, for the most part, each of us fall into one of the three categories, and I am basing that primarily off of everyone’s comments week in and week out.

-Robbie

by Chiefsfan2012 on Nov 17, 2009 7:54 PM CST reply actions  

I thought that too

Most all of us fit in one of the three camps.
Yet we don’t want to be branded as such. That is okay.
The fourth camp aren’t Chiefs fans or supporters.
And every party has leaners :)

We Will kick at least 4 Teams Asses in 09
And Succop will be the Key in two of them. Washington & Oakland!
" Think and talk positive football off the field." Hank Stram

by Steve_Chiefs on Nov 17, 2009 8:04 PM CST up reply actions  

4 camps

Im in the 4th camp which is "Their’s no frickin way i’m reading that much shit, even if it was good :P

by CPT.Caveman on Nov 17, 2009 8:52 PM CST up reply actions  

That was to you Reply button eh

Do you like Sons of Anarchy?

We Will kick at least 4 Teams Asses in 09
And Succop will be the Key in two of them. Washington & Oakland!
" Think and talk positive football off the field." Hank Stram

by Steve_Chiefs on Nov 17, 2009 9:09 PM CST up reply actions  

just jokin' geez

and no i don’t watch that stuff, infact i don’t watch tv at all. Only what i can get on my computer.

by CPT.Caveman on Nov 17, 2009 11:47 PM CST up reply actions  

So...

Does that make you a Oakland fan? They don’t like to read either…

by Stone Throwers on Nov 17, 2009 9:22 PM CST up reply actions  

Easy now

Thats fightin words in person :P

by CPT.Caveman on Nov 17, 2009 11:49 PM CST up reply actions  

TLDR Team

Too Long Didn’t Read Team….lol

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by woodman212 on Nov 17, 2009 9:32 PM CST up reply actions  

Maybe a shorter take

Kid Rock

We Will kick at least 4 Teams Asses in 09
And Succop will be the Key in two of them. Washington & Oakland!
" Think and talk positive football off the field." Hank Stram

by Steve_Chiefs on Nov 17, 2009 9:08 PM CST reply actions  

ok

i read it all ,and now my brain hurts damn you, damn you all to hell.

by CPT.Caveman on Nov 18, 2009 12:06 AM CST up reply actions  

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