Dwayne Bowe Suspended for Four Games
by Chris Thorman on Nov 17, 2009 12:42 PM CST
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We'll be updating this. Via Kent Babb:
Dwayne Bowe has been suspended four games for violating the league's policy on performance-enhancing substances.
The Chiefs have confirmed the move.
It was reported earlier this season that Bowe had switched agents now being represented by Todd France.
This means that Bowe has either applied an internal appeal (and lost) or chose not to appeal. It's possible this has been going on for months, even dating back to last season.
Bob Gretz wonders what could have happened with Bowe.
"Players can face suspension for performance enhancing substances for testing positive for anabolic steroids, or certain diuretics that are considered masking agents. Players can also be suspended for failing to show up for testing."
As Gretz points out, the last Chief to be suspended for something like this was John Welbourn in the beginning of the 2006 season.
More coming....Check this post.
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Can you say Bobby Wade activated??????????
Re-Hired!! Get to work.
by krayfish on Nov 17, 2009 12:43 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
oh well, let's be real here.
who doesn’t use steroids in the NFL? Seriously you can’t compete if you don’t.
by krayfish on Nov 17, 2009 12:44 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Probably not steroids
Or at least the traditional steroids. It’ll be interesting to see what this is.
by Joel Thorman on Nov 17, 2009 12:45 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
+1
They are all taking something.
by ZachMartin2 on Nov 17, 2009 12:57 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
This goes back to the issues with the "Williams' Wall" lawsuit.
Does anyone have any good info on why testing positive for a diuretic = testing positive for steroids? From what I read on NFP, ESPN etc. on their problems, the connection between the two isn’t all that strong.
"You've only got 10 fingers to stick in the dike. Is there a breaking point that pushes you over the edge?...Where's the limit?"
-Marty Schottenheimer
by go_saleaumua on Nov 17, 2009 1:21 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Williams wall suit
Had more to do with the rights of employees in one state to be drug tested. Nothing at all to do with the substance.
Predictions for 2009:
The Chiefs will regret cutting LJ
Bowe's numbers regress due to lack of decent QB play.
The D gets better in the second half but still is plagued by big plays
Cassel looks more like the guy Pioli almost cut in the '08 preseason instead of the franchise QB he hoped he would be when he traded him for
Chiefs 3-13
by bonesjackson on Nov 17, 2009 1:27 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
testing positive for a diaretic....
…. does NOT = testing positive for steroids.
The diaretics in question were on the banned substance lists because they had things in them that are KNOWN masking agents. (Meaning substences that are taken by players to hide steroids, so they won’t piss positive for steriods)
I’m not commenting on wether or not Bowe was taking steroids, because I don’t have a clue; but testing positive for a substence on the banned substence list does not necessairly mean testing positive for steroids or any other illegal drug. There are things on the banned substence list that are completely legal, and can be bought at your local GNC or grocery store pharmacy. Banned by the NFL is not the same as illegal.
The Powers Of Astute Observation Are Often Mistaken As Cynacism By Those That Do Not Posses Them -- G.B. Shaw
by Texas Chief on Nov 17, 2009 3:22 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Say it ain't so Bowe...
I’m hoping it was just one of those poppyseed muffins or something…
by RA_ChiefsFan on Nov 17, 2009 12:44 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
yep
need him to win against
sd
den
buff
by kcstevesportsfan on Nov 17, 2009 1:15 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
WTF
This sucks. What were you thinking Bowe. Curious to see how coach handles this.
by kc2win on Nov 17, 2009 12:46 PM CST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
This will make it easier to win!
(sarcasm)
Proud resident of Kansas City MO
by TigerChief on Nov 17, 2009 12:46 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
dam it
wade, chambers, long, bradley, pope. we arent gonna be running the ball against PITT!
by GoShooterGo on Nov 17, 2009 12:46 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
This is ALL HALEY'S FAULT!!
oh wait sorry, wrong post…I’ll be back (-:
by krayfish on Nov 17, 2009 12:47 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
LOL...
Let’s get CSI in their and see if his prints are on the pill box.
"You've only got 10 fingers to stick in the dike. Is there a breaking point that pushes you over the edge?...Where's the limit?"
-Marty Schottenheimer
by go_saleaumua on Nov 17, 2009 1:22 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Haha
I giggled, it’s true :)
by Eastcoastransplant on Nov 17, 2009 8:15 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Damn this sucks
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by Scaryclouds on Nov 17, 2009 12:47 PM CST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
Awww this really hurts...
sadness under the dwaynebow!
by worc on Nov 17, 2009 12:48 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
i wonder if he took star caps to lose weight like the williams' guys did in minnesota
The only players I hurt with my words are the ones who have an inflated opinion of their ability. I can't worry about that.
Bill Parcells
Knowledge is confidence. And confidence lets you play fast.
Bill Parcells
by kcguy on Nov 17, 2009 12:48 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Me too.
"You've only got 10 fingers to stick in the dike. Is there a breaking point that pushes you over the edge?...Where's the limit?"
-Marty Schottenheimer
by go_saleaumua on Nov 17, 2009 1:22 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
first thought:
it didnt help him to catch balls thrown his way
Prediction: 2009 AFC West gets Emmy for best drama.
by CT Chief Fan on Nov 17, 2009 12:48 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
4 Games?
Has he been busted before?
No one ever says, "It's only a game" when their team is winning.
George Carlin-R.I.P.
by idahochieffan on Nov 17, 2009 12:49 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
4 games is standard for 1st time violators of the rule
The only players I hurt with my words are the ones who have an inflated opinion of their ability. I can't worry about that.
Bill Parcells
Knowledge is confidence. And confidence lets you play fast.
Bill Parcells
by kcguy on Nov 17, 2009 12:50 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
ugh.
That just blew the wind outta my sails.
by Eastcoastransplant on Nov 17, 2009 8:16 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Well it's time to see what the other WRs have.
The Greatest Trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist.
Officially on the FIRE TODD HALEY BANDWAGON.
by madtheory on Nov 17, 2009 12:49 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Will Mark Bradley step up?
I’m pretty confident about Chambers and Wade. Long too, for that matter.
"You've only got 10 fingers to stick in the dike. Is there a breaking point that pushes you over the edge?...Where's the limit?"
-Marty Schottenheimer
by go_saleaumua on Nov 17, 2009 1:23 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh well
It’s not like this hurts our playoff chances.
I hope it’s just one of those mix-up deals…not an egregious violation.
Predictions:
Kansas City will not win more than four games in 2009
Kansas City will have a new OC and DC in 2010
Kansas City will win at least seven games in 2010
by jmcgoblue on Nov 17, 2009 12:50 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
can he appeal?
The only players I hurt with my words are the ones who have an inflated opinion of their ability. I can't worry about that.
Bill Parcells
Knowledge is confidence. And confidence lets you play fast.
Bill Parcells
by kcguy on Nov 17, 2009 12:51 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
yes
Predictions for 2009:
The Chiefs will regret cutting LJ
Bowe's numbers regress due to lack of decent QB play.
The D gets better in the second half but still is plagued by big plays
Cassel looks more like the guy Pioli almost cut in the '08 preseason instead of the franchise QB he hoped he would be when he traded him for
Chiefs 3-13
by bonesjackson on Nov 17, 2009 12:56 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I really doubt it would do much good.
I think the NFL recognizes the various things it “could be” instead of drugs but I think they’re pretty sure they got him or they wouldn’t bother. NFL has one of the best drug policies in all of professional sports.
by jk86 on Nov 17, 2009 12:58 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
PFT said
that he has decided to not appeal or has used all his internal appeals..mnot sure what that means…
by tomahawk44 on Nov 17, 2009 12:59 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
As pissed off as I was when the "Williams Wall" (gag) lawyered their way outta their punishment...
Any chance Missouri has a get out of jail free card for Bowe? Please?
by MadMattox on Nov 17, 2009 12:51 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Can't wait to hear from all the Merriman and Bonds haters now...
You hypocrites better have the same venom for Bowe.
"What?!?! I aint no Obama for the weed!"
-Turk McBride
by HIV 2 Elway on Nov 17, 2009 12:51 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
you don't even know what he did
Predictions:
Kansas City will not win more than four games in 2009
Kansas City will have a new OC and DC in 2010
Kansas City will win at least seven games in 2010
by jmcgoblue on Nov 17, 2009 12:52 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't care, I'm all for people trying to get an edge...
risking long term health to help the team in the short term is fine with me.
"What?!?! I aint no Obama for the weed!"
-Turk McBride
by HIV 2 Elway on Nov 17, 2009 12:53 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Nah not really
Players are people too and most of the rules in the NFL are to protect the players health as much as possible.
Letting drugs that give unfair advantage, especially ones detrimental to their health, would create an environment where you HAD to take roids to compete.
Predictions.
1. Tank Tyler will end up surprising everyone and be the anchor of our line.
"...Said he couldn't go on the American way"
by Jux on Nov 17, 2009 12:56 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Sounds like the MLB to me...
"What?!?! I aint no Obama for the weed!"
-Turk McBride
by HIV 2 Elway on Nov 17, 2009 12:57 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
lol
I hate baseball
Predictions.
1. Tank Tyler will end up surprising everyone and be the anchor of our line.
"...Said he couldn't go on the American way"
by Jux on Nov 17, 2009 12:57 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
speaking of baseball Greinke just nabbed the Cy Young...at least one thing is going right for KC today...
My long, drawn-out predictions that no one cares about, nor will bother to remember:
1. Todd Haley will still be the Chiefs Head Coach up to the 2011 season.
2. Clancy Pendergast won't make it to the 2010 season and was never intended to. Last-minute hire for a position that needed to be filled.
3. Todd Haley will not be the OC at the start of the 2010 season.
by jbj8609 on Nov 17, 2009 1:19 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
well we do know
it was a violated substance, even if it wasnt a steroid per say. He will be a “cheater” for the rest of his careeer now, guilty or not.
Prediction: 2009 AFC West gets Emmy for best drama.
by CT Chief Fan on Nov 17, 2009 12:53 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Merriman is a whole lot easier to hate than bowe
Bonds obviously blew up from what he looked like to what he is today.
I’d like to see what it is he took before lumping him into a category with those two jackoffs
This isn't a "kum-bye-yah" campfire! THIS IS FOOTBALL!
by IISaiNtII on Nov 17, 2009 12:54 PM CST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Whoa
Huge difference here. Merriman ruined Priest Holmes career because he was doped up. I’ve never really hated Bonds, just that he lied, I mean look at the before and after pictures.
I’m really in shock over this!
(Raiders game 1 should be listed here, 409 yds off, we let them off the hook)
(Cowboy's should be listed here - They are who we thought they were)
Skins
Raiders game 2
Next victim?
by cpa913 on Nov 17, 2009 12:56 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Barry Bonds entered the MLB....
wearing a size 7 1/2 hat.
He exited the MLB wearing a size 14.
Tell me again how he wasn’t taking steroids. Even his HEAD got bigger. (Although I bet his condom size got smaller)
He lied about it again and again and again in the media, to the fans, and even to congress. Barry Bonds got off easy.
The Powers Of Astute Observation Are Often Mistaken As Cynacism By Those That Do Not Posses Them -- G.B. Shaw
by Texas Chief on Nov 17, 2009 3:29 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
if he was taking steriods, Ill have the same venom
If he was taking some concotion of legal vitamins that happened to contain one or more items on the banned substense list that were NOT steroids then I’ll be upset at him for not reading the label or contacting the NFL to ask if the vitamins were ok to take….. but it won’t be anything like the venom I’d have for a play knowingly and intentionally taking an illegal steriod.
The Powers Of Astute Observation Are Often Mistaken As Cynacism By Those That Do Not Posses Them -- G.B. Shaw
by Texas Chief on Nov 17, 2009 3:27 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
And somewhere in Cincy, Larry Johnson is laughing his arse off...
by golfbard on Nov 17, 2009 12:52 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
who cares?
what a 4th string RB in Cincy cares about KC?
Predictions:
Kansas City will not win more than four games in 2009
Kansas City will have a new OC and DC in 2010
Kansas City will win at least seven games in 2010
by jmcgoblue on Nov 17, 2009 12:53 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Hey, fourth string, 20th string, 1st string on a first place team means you're still on a first place team
I’m sure he’s happy to get off of this still sinking ship
by golfbard on Nov 17, 2009 12:55 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah but he's not gonna play
his position is the same as waterboy on a first place team still on the first place team but just the waterboy
by kcchiefs19 on Nov 17, 2009 12:58 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
And anyway, who cares what he thinks
he’s no longer a part of the team. He won’t be laughing in two years when his career is over & KC is winning the AFC West.
Predictions:
Kansas City will not win more than four games in 2009
Kansas City will have a new OC and DC in 2010
Kansas City will win at least seven games in 2010
by jmcgoblue on Nov 17, 2009 1:00 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
Who cares? But also…
He’s a football player right? Well he plays like one (well he used to) on TV. Point being, a football players, wants to play right? So how long is it going to be before LJ is like, uh-oh. sure I’m on a winning team, but I don’t touch the rock. He’s not going to love that. Sure he’ll have a bunch of wins… A bunch of wins that he didn’t contribute a lick towards.
by Eastcoastransplant on Nov 17, 2009 8:20 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry golfbard, I just don't think LJ matters anymore.
You might be right but…
/shrugs
"You've only got 10 fingers to stick in the dike. Is there a breaking point that pushes you over the edge?...Where's the limit?"
-Marty Schottenheimer
by go_saleaumua on Nov 17, 2009 1:26 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You know ...
I think that you ought to examine his play on the field before determining whether you can really accuse him of using anything “performance-enhancing” …
Sure, he might have a positive test. But, it’s clear that he hasn’t taken anything that’s helped him at all on the field.
by JacinB on Nov 17, 2009 12:53 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
What an idiot.
Last time I checked, Bowe, performance enhancers aren’t going to help you catch a ball.
Predictions.
1. Tank Tyler will end up surprising everyone and be the anchor of our line.
"...Said he couldn't go on the American way"
by Jux on Nov 17, 2009 12:54 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Lets blame Haley for this too.
Try this-Haley pushes his guys so hard that they are forced to do drugs to keep up with his demands.
by vincent2668 on Nov 17, 2009 12:54 PM CST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
Really?
-1
No one ever says, "It's only a game" when their team is winning.
George Carlin-R.I.P.
by idahochieffan on Nov 17, 2009 12:55 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Well ...
He did ‘demote’ Bowe to third team earlier this year …
Just kidding. Mostly.
by JacinB on Nov 17, 2009 12:55 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Blame Todd Haley Bandwagon
i’m in its all his fault
by kcchiefs19 on Nov 17, 2009 12:55 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Wait until they found out that Herm drove the truck delivering the pills ;)
(sarcasm font)
"You've only got 10 fingers to stick in the dike. Is there a breaking point that pushes you over the edge?...Where's the limit?"
-Marty Schottenheimer
by go_saleaumua on Nov 17, 2009 1:27 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I hope i made it clear that i was joking
by vincent2668 on Nov 17, 2009 12:56 PM CST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
And, ironically ...
Per Joel (ie: not me):
Adam Schefter of ESPN is sifting through the current situation with Dwayne Bowe that has him suspended for four games by the NFL. Per Schefter, Bowe likely took something to help him lose weight, similar to the situation with Kevin and Pat Williams in Minnesota.So, it is Haley’s fault.
“From what I gather,” Schefter tweets, “Chiefs WR Dwayne Bowe was trying to lose weight in training camp and took a diuretic.” …
The irony in all this is that head coach Todd Haley ran what he called the toughest training camp in the NFL and demanded many players lose weight. Haley has said the Chiefs as a team lost over 800 pounds.
Bowe was reportedly one of those players who had to lose weight. I’ve heard (but haven’t confirmed) that he was asked to lose over 20 pounds.
by JacinB on Nov 17, 2009 2:12 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
were gonna lose
wow thanks bowe now i don’t have to watch the game my sunday is free now us wining against Pittsburgh lol not gonna happen
by kcchiefs19 on Nov 17, 2009 12:54 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I just hope we can beat Cleveland and Buffalo
Looks like he’ll be gone for those games too
Predictions:
Kansas City will not win more than four games in 2009
Kansas City will have a new OC and DC in 2010
Kansas City will win at least seven games in 2010
by jmcgoblue on Nov 17, 2009 12:55 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by Chiefs447 on Nov 17, 2009 12:54 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
OK Check it!
1) Have they said exactly what he took
2) 4 games of rest, that we might not be winning anyway
3) How important is Chris Chambers NOW!!
by Jclawd on Nov 17, 2009 12:54 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
All this for a little pot?
LoLz, hopefully that’s all it is
by kansasjhawk044 on Nov 17, 2009 12:55 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
thats exactly what i was thinking
!!!
Prediction: 2009 AFC West gets Emmy for best drama.
by CT Chief Fan on Nov 17, 2009 12:56 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Son of a bitch...
I pop in here for 2 seconds between meetings and see this.
by NJ Chiefs Fan on Nov 17, 2009 12:55 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
(Raiders game 1 should be listed here, 409 yds off, we let them off the hook)
(Cowboy's should be listed here - They are who we thought they were)
Skins
Raiders game 2
Next victim?
by cpa913 on Nov 17, 2009 1:05 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You've got to be kidding
He’s the only player left that I enjoy to watch play.
by Detroit Buckets on Nov 17, 2009 12:58 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Whats you favorite part
When he lines up wrong or drops passes.
by vincent2668 on Nov 17, 2009 1:02 PM CST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
I don't get it.
Do these idiots not think they are going to get caught eventually?
I mean regaurdless of what he took, I’m sure he took it knowing full well it was against the rules.
Predictions.
1. Tank Tyler will end up surprising everyone and be the anchor of our line.
"...Said he couldn't go on the American way"
by Jux on Nov 17, 2009 1:00 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Fuck my life
Please help send my girlfriend to Broadway! Visit http://magonbroadway.blogspot.com/
by Patrick Allen on Nov 17, 2009 1:00 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
meh
It just enhances our draft position…and provides a nice excuse for some more losses. j/k of course
Predictions:
Kansas City will not win more than four games in 2009
Kansas City will have a new OC and DC in 2010
Kansas City will win at least seven games in 2010
by jmcgoblue on Nov 17, 2009 1:02 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Bowe traded this offseason?
Doesn’t sound like a Haley/ Pioli guy now for sure.
by sandpro on Nov 17, 2009 1:01 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I think it depends on what he actually did
“Performance Enhancing” drugs casts a pretty wide net.
Predictions:
Kansas City will not win more than four games in 2009
Kansas City will have a new OC and DC in 2010
Kansas City will win at least seven games in 2010
by jmcgoblue on Nov 17, 2009 1:02 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Rodney Harrison?
Prediction: 2009 AFC West gets Emmy for best drama.
by CT Chief Fan on Nov 17, 2009 1:03 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
my point was
he was a Pioli guy at one point ans got busted for HGH, Bowe aint goin anywhere
Prediction: 2009 AFC West gets Emmy for best drama.
by CT Chief Fan on Nov 17, 2009 1:13 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Nice, I was just gonna say that.
No one ever says, "It's only a game" when their team is winning.
George Carlin-R.I.P.
by idahochieffan on Nov 17, 2009 1:03 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Suddenly...
Picking up Chambers last week in my fantasy league looks a lot more intelligent
by Boots 58 on Nov 17, 2009 1:02 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
You know
I wonder if this is the reason they went after Chambers. It’s probably been known internally for a while.
Predictions:
Kansas City will not win more than four games in 2009
Kansas City will have a new OC and DC in 2010
Kansas City will win at least seven games in 2010
by jmcgoblue on Nov 17, 2009 1:03 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yep.
No one ever says, "It's only a game" when their team is winning.
George Carlin-R.I.P.
by idahochieffan on Nov 17, 2009 1:04 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Haley said in Monday's press conference
That Bobby would be activated again this season, I imagine Wade being inactive was to see if Long could do anything when Bowe got suspended
by sandpro on Nov 17, 2009 1:09 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
They didn’t “go after” Chambers, chargers waived him and he’s better than what we had, so they took him
by RamX21 on Nov 17, 2009 1:12 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Makes a lot of sense.
"You've only got 10 fingers to stick in the dike. Is there a breaking point that pushes you over the edge?...Where's the limit?"
-Marty Schottenheimer
by go_saleaumua on Nov 17, 2009 1:29 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
And Lance Long too!
(Raiders game 1 should be listed here, 409 yds off, we let them off the hook)
(Cowboy's should be listed here - They are who we thought they were)
Skins
Raiders game 2
Next victim?
by cpa913 on Nov 17, 2009 1:06 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The problems with the Chiefs
are now becoming increasingly clear.
The Chiefs had a ton of issues.
Haley deserves an award for being 2-7 with all the BS this team has.
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by Peterman700 on Nov 17, 2009 1:03 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Way to go douche bag...
First you drop balls on critical downs, now you screw us over by not waiting until the seasons over to smoke the cheebuh? F-U Bowe. WTF!!!
by crashman6 on Nov 17, 2009 1:04 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
What a asshole
How f’ing hard is it for these assholes to not take shot on a list. They have trainers and people the team pays to watch out for this shit.
Please help send my girlfriend to Broadway! Visit http://magonbroadway.blogspot.com/
by Patrick Allen on Nov 17, 2009 1:04 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Can someone tell me...
Is there a Chiefs player whose jersey is safe to purchase at the moment?
by Boots 58 on Nov 17, 2009 1:06 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Cassel
Please help send my girlfriend to Broadway! Visit http://magonbroadway.blogspot.com/
by Patrick Allen on Nov 17, 2009 1:06 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Cassel
or the Kickers, we have good kickers!
(Raiders game 1 should be listed here, 409 yds off, we let them off the hook)
(Cowboy's should be listed here - They are who we thought they were)
Skins
Raiders game 2
Next victim?
by cpa913 on Nov 17, 2009 1:07 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah the only place in the nation where a punter or kicker jersey sells
get a colquit mvp of the team those punts at oakland were great
by kcchiefs19 on Nov 17, 2009 1:08 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Not the only place
Buffalo loves Brian Moorman. So KC and Buffalo. Great company if you ask me.
by TheDBroShow on Nov 17, 2009 1:15 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Cassel....
But would you want to wear that??
Predictions for 2009:
The Chiefs will regret cutting LJ
Bowe's numbers regress due to lack of decent QB play.
The D gets better in the second half but still is plagued by big plays
Cassel looks more like the guy Pioli almost cut in the '08 preseason instead of the franchise QB he hoped he would be when he traded him for
Chiefs 3-13
by bonesjackson on Nov 17, 2009 1:11 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
T-Jax.....
But would you want to wear that right now?
Predictions for 2009:
The Chiefs will regret cutting LJ
Bowe's numbers regress due to lack of decent QB play.
The D gets better in the second half but still is plagued by big plays
Cassel looks more like the guy Pioli almost cut in the '08 preseason instead of the franchise QB he hoped he would be when he traded him for
Chiefs 3-13
by bonesjackson on Nov 17, 2009 1:11 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Thomas Gafford.
That’s one badass longsnapper.
"You've only got 10 fingers to stick in the dike. Is there a breaking point that pushes you over the edge?...Where's the limit?"
-Marty Schottenheimer
by go_saleaumua on Nov 17, 2009 1:32 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Unbelievable
just when you think things can’t get any worse.
by Jew Boy on Nov 17, 2009 1:06 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
If this is true
and it was steroids or something similar, then I’m really disappointed in D-Bowe. He was/is my favorite Chief, but I am so against cheating of this sort that I’d find it difficult to stand by him. This just makes me sad.
by TheDBroShow on Nov 17, 2009 1:06 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
i swear there just trying to mess up my fantasy team
i had lj gone…d-bowe gone…mark Bradley not starting….next to go is matt cassell ( i sure hope not) but wouldn’t be surprised
by kcchiefs19 on Nov 17, 2009 1:07 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
With a linup like that
I think it’s safe to say you were screwed from the start anyway ;)
Predictions:
Kansas City will not win more than four games in 2009
Kansas City will have a new OC and DC in 2010
Kansas City will win at least seven games in 2010
by jmcgoblue on Nov 17, 2009 1:08 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
So,....our new no.1 reciever is a guy
who was a mid-season pick up and has played two games,and couldnt even cut it on his last team…..damn…thanks Bowe
by KCinAZ on Nov 17, 2009 1:07 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
yeah, i know his name...lol...im just saying how bad it is
by KCinAZ on Nov 17, 2009 1:09 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
From what I've read Chambers wasn't cut because he "couldn't cut it"
it was because of his off the field issues.
"Bigamy is having one wife too many. Monogamy is the same." ~Oscar Wilde
by Big Chief on Nov 17, 2009 1:11 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah same reasons they hated LJ
You are not making them feel better…
Predictions for 2009:
The Chiefs will regret cutting LJ
Bowe's numbers regress due to lack of decent QB play.
The D gets better in the second half but still is plagued by big plays
Cassel looks more like the guy Pioli almost cut in the '08 preseason instead of the franchise QB he hoped he would be when he traded him for
Chiefs 3-13
by bonesjackson on Nov 17, 2009 1:13 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
he was going through a divorce....
funny, we dont cut LJ for five yrs with his off the field issues, but chambers gets cut for going through a rough divorce…..shows the difference in organizations
by KCinAZ on Nov 17, 2009 1:13 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I wasnt really knocking Chambers guys...
I was just saying how sad it is that our NO 1 reciever barely knows our offense after two games…I like Chambers
by KCinAZ on Nov 17, 2009 1:14 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
For those who thinks this makes a difference for Sunday...
please. It isn’t like he was tearing up the league. Well, in drops maybe. We won’t notice any difference in the offense. Bradley can drop just as many balls as Bowe, Cassel can still run into his RB, and the defense can’t tackle anybody. Not sure how Bowe fits into that line of problems.
I remember Dawson to Taylor, Kenney to Carson, and Blackledge catching the snap in his facemask. Seen it all...
by BinSC on Nov 17, 2009 1:09 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Good point
except bowe is a playmaker
by kcchiefs19 on Nov 17, 2009 1:11 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Those 2 plays haven't helped win much.
He has made a couple of plays, but I think his drops may have cost us more. Either way, he certainly hasn’t been a difference maker. We have way too many problems besides WR. It’s not like the game could be in the balance with him in the lineup…
I remember Dawson to Taylor, Kenney to Carson, and Blackledge catching the snap in his facemask. Seen it all...
by BinSC on Nov 17, 2009 1:13 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
my guess
diuretics. during Haleys lets lose a shit ton of wieght phase
by deflep1691 on Nov 17, 2009 1:10 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
schefter just tweeted this
a diuretic during training camp
Prediction: 2009 AFC West gets Emmy for best drama.
by CT Chief Fan on Nov 17, 2009 1:11 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Boy you really got it in for Haley...
-1
by crashman6 on Nov 17, 2009 1:11 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
its actually true
Prediction: 2009 AFC West gets Emmy for best drama.
by CT Chief Fan on Nov 17, 2009 1:11 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
im happy i called it
but pissed we lose bowe. i like haley but im putting this one on him
by deflep1691 on Nov 17, 2009 1:12 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
That's bull crap
The rest of the team lost weight, you don’t see them getting busted. This one’s Bowe’s fault and his fault only.
by RA_ChiefsFan on Nov 17, 2009 1:14 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
yes they didnt get "busted"
but who knows how many actually used them. Haley put way to much pressure on losing alot of wieght really quick and this is what resulted from it
by deflep1691 on Nov 17, 2009 1:16 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
No
That’s what happens when a GM (Peterson) and a head coach (Herm) let their players get fat and lazy.
by RA_ChiefsFan on Nov 17, 2009 1:18 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
look i understand that
but to loose as much wieght as they did in such a short amount of time it doesnt suprise me that this happend
by deflep1691 on Nov 17, 2009 1:19 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Bowe came in 25lbs over his playing weight last year
I don’t see how that can be Haleys fault.
by vincent2668 on Nov 17, 2009 2:13 PM CST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
in addition
it was a well noted fact that Haley was driving Bowe extremly hard during preseason camps.
by deflep1691 on Nov 17, 2009 1:18 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
So you're saying...
Haley forced the stuff down Bowe’s throat?
by RA_ChiefsFan on Nov 17, 2009 1:19 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
i dont know, everything i am saying is speculative
but i’m saying Haleys pressure on Bowe could have resulted in this. Key word could
by deflep1691 on Nov 17, 2009 1:20 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
doesnt matter why
he chose to take it, and life is all about just that. choices…
Just like novocaine. give it time; always works..
by be cee on Nov 17, 2009 2:15 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Just admit it...
You are posting under a false handle and your name is Herm. Really, thuis is on Bowe. It’s all the coaches fault, WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHH! Pathetic.
by crashman6 on Nov 17, 2009 1:21 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
i dont agree
Bowe is obviously to blame in part. But did this ever happen before ?..no..why? Use some logic and you’ll find something is not right
by deflep1691 on Nov 17, 2009 1:23 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
What's not right is a player taking a known banned substance and...
and putting yourself before the team.
by crashman6 on Nov 17, 2009 1:24 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
what is the specific substance??
This could be a similiar situation t the WIlliams in Minnesota.
But all im doing is throwing out ideas to get people to think a little
by deflep1691 on Nov 17, 2009 1:26 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
It does not matter about the specific substance. It is banned by the league.
You make millions playing a game. The most regulated game in the world. You need to know all the rules. You just go ahead and hate on Haley. I will always blame myself first for my mistakes. It’s on Bowe. The end.
by crashman6 on Nov 17, 2009 1:28 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
there are shads of grey
obviously or else the williams would not be in court. and im not a haley hater. i like him as a coach. im just throwing out the very real possibility. the facts match that thier could have been a chance of what im saying.
by deflep1691 on Nov 17, 2009 1:31 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
No...
What you’re saying is that if a guy drives his car into a crowd of people, that the car company and not the guy is responsible.
by RA_ChiefsFan on Nov 17, 2009 1:29 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
no thats not what im saying at all.
we dont know all the facts so to automatically say this is only bowes fault would be ill advised
by deflep1691 on Nov 17, 2009 1:30 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
We know all the facts
The banned substence was found INSIDE Dwayne Bowe.
What other facts do you need?
The only way this could be Haley’s fault is if Haley was sneaking into Bowe’s room at night and secretly injecting him or spiking his morning orange juice with a banned substence.
If that wasn’t happeing then the banned substence go INSIDE Bowe because BOWE was taking a banned substence. That makes it Bowe’s fault. It doens’t matter one single bit WHY he was taking it. It’s against the rules, and he chose to take it. That makes it his fault.
As far as “shades of gray” goes – There aren’t any in this case. It’s simple black and white. Either he took a banned substence or he didn’t. If he did then he stands up like a man and says “I took it. I’ll suffer the consequneces”
We already have enough people in this world that refuse to take responcibility for their own action. We don’t need anyone else making excuses FOR them.
The Powers Of Astute Observation Are Often Mistaken As Cynacism By Those That Do Not Posses Them -- G.B. Shaw
by Texas Chief on Nov 17, 2009 3:38 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Cause..
Haley caused Fitzgerald and Boldin to use the same banned substances to get better?… oh wait they haven’t used anything, yet Haley pushed them too… huh..
by RA_ChiefsFan on Nov 17, 2009 1:26 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
we dont know if they did?
its a matter of gettign caught.
by deflep1691 on Nov 17, 2009 1:29 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
It's been fun...
Gotta get back to work. Individual freedom, means unrelenting responsibility. Go Chiefs!
by crashman6 on Nov 17, 2009 1:30 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Herm didnt care if his players were in shape
by vincent2668 on Nov 17, 2009 2:15 PM CST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
It could be worse....
It could have been someone from our offensive line. Could you imagine how terrible they would be without the “performance enhancing” drugs?
by dragon6172 on Nov 17, 2009 1:10 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
schefter just tweeted:
It was a diruetic when he was losing weight during training camp, and hes known about this from earlier this month and has decided not to appeal
Prediction: 2009 AFC West gets Emmy for best drama.
by CT Chief Fan on Nov 17, 2009 1:12 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
It takes that long to find out?
No one ever says, "It's only a game" when their team is winning.
George Carlin-R.I.P.
by idahochieffan on Nov 17, 2009 1:13 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
dunno
NFL is selective i guess in when it doles out punishments….
Prediction: 2009 AFC West gets Emmy for best drama.
by CT Chief Fan on Nov 17, 2009 1:14 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I can live with that.
Weed or steroids would piss me off a bit more. I would smack him in the back of the head a la Gibbs from NCIS though, should know better. Should have people on staff who know better!
by dragon6172 on Nov 17, 2009 1:13 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
this sucks
i lvoe dwayne bowe- what makes me mad is that on rotoworld it says “this suspension may alter the teams long term plans for him” …just not what this team eneds
Give Todd Haley a full regular and off-season to build Bowe's Cassel, and we will all wreap the benefits...
by CHIEFER on Nov 17, 2009 1:12 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Well in better news...
Zack Grienke won the AL Cy Young award.
by ravenhawk on Nov 17, 2009 1:12 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
To bad his team sucks
And he will be a Yankee soon enough
Predictions for 2009:
The Chiefs will regret cutting LJ
Bowe's numbers regress due to lack of decent QB play.
The D gets better in the second half but still is plagued by big plays
Cassel looks more like the guy Pioli almost cut in the '08 preseason instead of the franchise QB he hoped he would be when he traded him for
Chiefs 3-13
by bonesjackson on Nov 17, 2009 1:14 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Not true Bonesjackson, you negative F*&K!
by ZachMartin2 on Nov 17, 2009 1:23 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Which part isn't true?
You know it. Just look at the history…..
Predictions for 2009:
The Chiefs will regret cutting LJ
Bowe's numbers regress due to lack of decent QB play.
The D gets better in the second half but still is plagued by big plays
Cassel looks more like the guy Pioli almost cut in the '08 preseason instead of the franchise QB he hoped he would be when he traded him for
Chiefs 3-13
by bonesjackson on Nov 17, 2009 1:26 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Isn't he under contract for another 3-4 seasons?
Predictions:
Kansas City will not win more than four games in 2009
Kansas City will have a new OC and DC in 2010
Kansas City will win at least seven games in 2010
by jmcgoblue on Nov 17, 2009 1:31 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Until 2012
But they will trade him before that, as long as he continues to perform.
Predictions for 2009:
The Chiefs will regret cutting LJ
Bowe's numbers regress due to lack of decent QB play.
The D gets better in the second half but still is plagued by big plays
Cassel looks more like the guy Pioli almost cut in the '08 preseason instead of the franchise QB he hoped he would be when he traded him for
Chiefs 3-13
by bonesjackson on Nov 17, 2009 1:33 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
per Schefter on Twitter:
Adam_Schefter
From what I gather, Chiefs WR Dwayne Bowe was trying to lose weight in training camp and took a diuretic.
Adam_Schefter
Bowe found out about his suspension earlier this month and has decided not to appeal it. He knows those are battles players don’t win.
Adam_Schefter
So there it is. Now we know why the Chiefs claimed wide receiver Chris Chambers off waivers. They knew Bowe suspension was coming.
by Detroit Buckets on Nov 17, 2009 1:13 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Well...
Chambers seems to be doing well…. so let’s hope they do not cut him when this is all said and done.
by dragon6172 on Nov 17, 2009 1:15 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Shit
The Bowe Chambers combo was starting to pick up steam
by Throw Up The X on Nov 17, 2009 1:17 PM CST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
All of a sudden
The Arrowhead lock down by Pioli makes sense. He didn’t want this getting leaked out. (The Bowe situation has to have been going through investigations and such for quite a while). Wow. I wonder what other issues are going on in there.
This continues to be a massive rebuild by Pioli and Haley. Props to them for winning at least 2 so far.
It's years like this that I wish I was a bear. Hibernation would make it so much easier.
by Red N Gold Beast on Nov 17, 2009 1:18 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Im Speechless...
if I say anything it would probably be curse words…lol
Winning begins with Attitude - Haley and Pioli will be winners in KC!
I'll forever be a Chiefs fan! Only God himself could take that away from me, but when I get to my great reward, I'll rejoin two bigger fans, my Mom and Dad.
by Lanier63 on Nov 17, 2009 1:22 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
I'm late to hear this........
but WTF?! The Chiefs are shooting themselves in the foot big time right now…….I don’t even know what to think about this dumbass move.
by Hail2DaChiefs on Nov 17, 2009 2:38 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
well
ive always felt bowe was not part of the long term plan ever since haley came in…his drops, and this..play into that.
I like bowe, but I will say, if there is a year to have this happen, let it be when we stink…although it makes the charger game in two weeks that less exciting to watch unless chambers rips them apart…
Ive seen these guys work, the ones who need a pill to lose weight, arent working hard enough…especially in the offseason…I saw it happen with Jesse Chatman, wasnt in shape, had a chance, bye bye…guy refused to eat right, lose weight etc…
as haley said, maybe its that Jumbalaya
by SDChief on Nov 17, 2009 2:53 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Mr Bowe
You have seriously disappointed me. I thought you were the best anyone could ask for, apparently not. I hope you fix your problem, otherwise your gone bud.
See ya Later Larry Johnson, or now forever known as "2.7"
by KC Nate on Nov 17, 2009 6:42 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
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