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Looking at the Chiefs Future O Line


I know every chiefs fan want the Chiefs to go out and sign a bunch of FA to make us win now, but that probably wont happen. Pioli has been known to add veteran leadership on defense but not so much the O line. I totally expect Pioli to add a couple guys to this defense, No big names just some role players. The o line is different for Pioli, The Line the Patriots Assemble on game days are mostly drafted by the Patriots. He also doesn't draft O Linemen early, The highest drafted player on their line is Logan Mankins (I believe) and he came with the 32nd pick. Im going to fill you guys in on a couple guys the Chiefs will take a look at when the draft starts to roll around. Ill try to go in an order based the order they are projected to come off the board.

Russell Okung 6'5 300 LT- Okung is the anchor of one of the best offense in the Big 12. He is definitely a mauler, but he can pass protect just as well. He isn't Joe Thomas the 2nd, but he is definitely worthy of top 15 pick. He will probably go in the top 3 because of team needs. Below I have a link from you tube that I feel is the least sugar coated. He misses an assignment a couple times, but on other plays he shows you why he is so good. I personally like the play where he pulls inside to run block. He has a mixed of strength and speed we don't have on the Chiefs line. Ultimately I would not be upset if the Chiefs took O Kung but I would prefer we go a different direction.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jaiCt3cG89I&feature=related

  • 2008 All-American
  • 2008 All-Big 12 first team (Coaches)
  • 2006 Dick Bogert Award
  • 2006 All-Big 12 freshman team
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    Bryan Bulaga 6'6 312 LT-Bryan Bulaga would be a very good fit for the Chiefs Scheme. He has quick feet and you see it in his pass protection. He is strong enough to block a bull rusher like Richard Seymour, and fast enough to seal of the edge against a speed rusher. There are a couple questions surrounded his health and run blocking ability but nothing serious. He would be a reach if the Chiefs draft real early. I couldn't find a video that doesn't seem a little watered down. I personally don't like him enough to even consider him a top 10 pick.

  • 2008 Second team All-Big Ten (Coaches)
  • 2007 Freshman All-Big Ten team (TSN)
  • 2006 High School All-American
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    Kris O'Dowd 6'5 315 C- Plan and simple, He is the best C to come out in a couple years. Scouts say he is better then every C that came out last year. He will probably go in the middle of the 1st round so the Chiefs would have to work out a trade or make a "Raider Reach" which I don't see happening. O Dowd is an all around monster, He manhandles DL run blocking, but he also anchors the line while pass blocking. Similar to the video problem with Bulaga, but I couldn't even fine a single video. Sorry guys, I would really like everyone to see him. It shouldn't be hard to catch a USC game, God knows they would rather play them then My Tigers. Anyways, Coming into to college, Scouts said O Dowd only lacked a Nasty Mean Streak, He definitely changed that.

  • 2008 College Football News Second Team Sophomore All-American
  • 2008 First Team All-Pac 10
  • 2008 USC Offensive Lineman of the year
  • 2006 High School All-American
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    Stefen Wisniewski 6'3 297-Stefen is an all around good player. He has probably hit his ceiling as a player but would improve slightly with NFL coaching. Stefen is a good run blocker and pass blocker. He would anchor our line for 6-10 years if coached up the right way. He is technique sound, which would make him perfect for our zone blocking scheme. To say he is smart is an under statement. He carried a 4.0 from the winter semester of 20007 til this last semester, No it has dropped to a 3.83. He is also a leader on Penn States line, which lacks experience. I don't have any videos. If anyone can find any of these guys that would be awesome.

     

    Anthony Davis 6'6 325- Davis is a very good run blocker, he would have to develop the pass blocking skills, I think he could do this pretty quickly. Some people project him as a LT, but I see him more as a RT. I don't know if he would excel in a zone blocking scheme but he could be coached. I'll put it like this, He is the LT on a team that struggles in pass protection. No big deal, The talent is there. He has had weight issues in the past, You know Haley would want him to loss weight if he came to KC. Below I have a video but it isn't the best. He is number 75, He demonstrates the run blocking I was talking about.

    http://rutgers.fandome.com/video/86801/Anthony-Davis/

  • 2007 Freshman All-American (FWAA, TSN, Rivals.com)
  • 2006 High School All-American
  • Nate Solder 6'9 305 OT- I mean look at his size! He is a man-beast at 6'9 305 but displays good leverage for his height. He is a TE originally but converted to LT. He displays great pass blocking abilities but sometimes struggles in the run game. The best thing about Solder is he is raw, If he went back to school for his senior year he might get taken in the top ten. He will probably slip to the late 1st or early 2nd. Another good quality about Solder is his quickness, He runs a 4.8 400, with a low of 4.7. That's ridiculous for a man his size. He would be perfect for a zone blocking scheme like the Chiefs run. Sorry, I don't have a video but you can check him out Saturday because the Buffs are in prime time. He is definitely one of the few bright spots on the team.

     

    Mike Johnson 6'5 35 OG-Johnson's stock is rising fast. Right now he is a 2nd-3rd round pick. He displays elite run blocking ability and above average pass blocking. He would immediate take over for Waters at LG or RG if Albert is moved inside. Im all for drafting Berry or Suh but I honestly feel that Albert and Johnson would be the most talented OG combination in the league. It would definitely benefit our running game to select Johnson. I dont have a video, but Alabama plays alot prime time, so we should get a couple more chances to check him out.

    2008 College All-American

     

    Lee Ziemba 6'8 305 OT-To me Ziemba would make a better RT then LT. He would be an upgrade over O Cal for sure. He is a very great run blocker but struggles in pass protection. He has amazing size and controls the line of scrimmage against bull rushers. He struggles to get leverage sometimes, He is pretty much a Nate Solder Clone but good at Run Blocking instead of Pass protection. If he was available at the end of the 2nd round he would be worth a look for sure. But the only video I could find was him getting beat horribly by a speed rusher, Which he struggles with.

     

    Vladimir Ducasse 6'5 330 OT/OG-Haitian born OT/OG from UMASS. He is versatile, Most scouts project him as an OG though. His coach calls him a leader and a hard worker. I really dont know much about him other then he has huge upside and hasnt came close to his ceiling. I believe the Chiefs might reach for him in order to mke sure they get him but who knows.

     

    Well thats it, I hope this helps some of you. The O line is fun to judge because its what you see best on TV. Fortunately for the Chiefs this draft is deep with talent at the C and G position. Sergio Render, Projected at one time as a 3rd round pick, is now projected in the 5th based of depth. Trust me, Render is a beast. If anyone has any video of these guys or other prospects please let me check them out in your comments.

    This is a FanPost and does not necessarily reflect the views of Arrowhead Pride's writers or editors. It does reflect the views of this particular fan though, which is as important as the views of Arrowhead Pride writers or editors.

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    I would like to see us use both our 2nd round picks on the O-line

    Maybe we could get lucky and Kris O’Dowdy would fall to our first 2nd round pick. Right now center seems to be the weakest spot on the O-line (now that Goff is gone).

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    by Scaryclouds on Nov 16, 2009 11:32 PM CST reply actions  

    Agreed....

    Get OL over with in the 2nd round…but I will be disappointed…

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    by woodman212 on Nov 16, 2009 11:40 PM CST up reply actions  

    O Dowd would be a steal in the 2nd.

    That would be awesome. I personally want Pioli to go defense with the first 2 picks and then Interior O line. There are alot of good interior linemen in the late 2nd-5th.

    OHANA!

    by darwithabar on Nov 17, 2009 1:36 AM CST up reply actions  

    I don't see Pioli using two 2nd round picks on OL

    He likes mid round OL a lot, and will probably want to get a playmaker at another position. Even if it isn’t one of need, he’ll probably take the best available at least once with the first 3 or 4 picks

    by Boots 58 on Nov 17, 2009 11:05 AM CST up reply actions  

    I would agree

    I think it will all depend on who is there. Pioli isnt gonna take someone he doesnt like in the 2nd round out of Need. He isnt known to do that. He has a couple guys that he will take if their there and if not he will refer to his boad. Im sure of that.

    OHANA!

    by darwithabar on Nov 18, 2009 10:49 AM CST up reply actions  

    Nice post REC

    I would love to read more about other positions of need.
    Thanks for the obvious hard work.

    Trying to see the big picture.

    by supremeKC on Nov 17, 2009 12:20 AM CST reply actions  

    RG

    Kind of related question, who played RG Sunday @ Oakland? I think it was Alleman, but not 100% sure. Also, didn’t Haley say something about Ndukwe getting some PT @ guard? Also, I agree with Scaryclouds, C is our biggest need on the line right now. I would like to see us draft a guard pretty early too either as a RG or Waters eventual replacement.

    by ajanzen on Nov 17, 2009 12:46 AM CST reply actions  

    Holy crap

    Nate Solder 6’9 305

    He might be too big for Cassel to see over. Wouldn’t be able to see to his side o.o

    by Matt89 on Nov 17, 2009 12:54 AM CST reply actions  

    Great Post

    Surprised you didn’t include Mike Iupati OG, Maurkice Pouncey C, Charles Brown OT, Jason Fox OT. Do you not think they fit the Chiefs scheme or just like the guys you did review better?

    by chrisclark_dfw on Nov 17, 2009 1:11 AM CST reply actions  

    Well I have Iupati in my other post "Couple of Prospects"

    As for Charles Brown, I didnt think the Chiefs would pick in the area he will go, Jason Fox and Pouncey I have no exucse for lol, Guess I got tired. I could go on and on about guys like Estes, Tennant, Ulatoski, Cambell, and Asomaoh. I just figured Id keep it a little short:). Ill have a LB and Secondary one coming up. Ill probably put a little more effort in finding some guys around in the later rounds.

    OHANA!

    by darwithabar on Nov 17, 2009 1:35 AM CST up reply actions  

    Sorry about the typo

    Mike Johnson is 305
    Stefen Wiesnoski is a C
    Anthony Davis is an OT, probably a RT in the pros.

    OHANA!

    by darwithabar on Nov 17, 2009 1:38 AM CST reply actions  

    darwithabar

    Thanks for a great post.I know a lot of work went into that & it’s much appreciated.

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    by chiefs63 on Nov 17, 2009 6:50 AM CST reply actions  

    I know you posted again below...

    but I don’t see why someone posts this every time there is a mock draft thread. Even when it is not a mock draft post.

    by Boots 58 on Nov 17, 2009 11:04 AM CST up reply actions  

    boots...boots..comeon now..

    try to keep up with the rest of the class!

    by krayfish on Nov 17, 2009 12:17 PM CST up reply actions  

    He is only joking

    I guess its an inside joke that is available to everyone in my last post, but nobody else understands.

    OHANA!

    by darwithabar on Nov 17, 2009 2:57 PM CST up reply actions  

    Thanks for the great info!

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    by KCporkchop on Nov 17, 2009 9:48 AM CST reply actions  

    actually it is a very good post

    I just know in my heart that if we get a killer offensive line here in KC we win!! we win a lot!!

    by krayfish on Nov 17, 2009 10:34 AM CST reply actions  

    Hey dar...

    how many 1st round draft picks do we have next year…anyone know?

    by krayfish on Nov 17, 2009 12:16 PM CST reply actions  

    I dont believe that Okung

    is a top 15 draft prosect, he is good, but not better than Albert. If we were going to go that high then I would want him to be an immidiate drastic improvement like a Joe Thomas. We have other bigger needs worth a high draft pick than LT. We definately need help with C and RG though. I dont really care where they get picked up in the draft though as long as we get someone that is competent and reliable.

    We are really going to need some LB help and a solid TE. If Gresham is availible in the second due to his injury, then you take him no questions asked.

    by readANDgold58 on Nov 17, 2009 12:16 PM CST reply actions  

    If this is true... he WOULD be a big enough upgrade to move Albert

    http://www.mockingthedraft.com/2009/11/3/1113936/nfl-draft-scouting-report-russell

    Compares favorably to Broncos left tackle Ryan Clady. Okung is clearly a top 10 talent and it seems likely he’ll be drafted higher.

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    * The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season
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    by stagdsp on Nov 17, 2009 1:11 PM CST up reply actions  

    yah boy center is a serious problem...big time problem

    our center is really the anchor for goal line schemes. You can’t run up the middle if your center’s knocking the ball out of your QB’s hands with his back as he’s getting shoved backwards.

    by krayfish on Nov 17, 2009 12:26 PM CST reply actions  

    Agreed

    I beleive that everything starts with the center, Run blocking and pass blocking.

    OHANA!

    by darwithabar on Nov 17, 2009 3:00 PM CST up reply actions  

    I don't think Bulaga comes out.

    Iowa fan here. He’s a junior with a year of eligiblity left. He would have come out after this year, but missed three games with health issues, and was ineffective his first few games back. He’s probably a late first round/early 2nd round pick. If he comes back and has a strong senior season he’s top-10. Plus, Iowa is looking at being a top-10 team next season. I think Bulaga stays in school.

    by DonnyDonovan on Nov 17, 2009 3:11 PM CST reply actions  

    No Way

    Ive debated this with several others. Bulaga is a 2nd round talent but he happens to be the best pass protecter maybe besides O Kung. Bulaga will ask scouts what his grade is and he will receive a first round grade. Him and Calloway are going to leave for sure. The threat of a rookie Salary cap will make sure of that. Bulaga is gone because he will receive a top 20 grade for sure. Only way this guy doesnt get picked in the top 20 is if he has a poor combine but by then it will be to late. He’ll be in the pros next year.

    OHANA!

    by darwithabar on Nov 17, 2009 5:10 PM CST up reply actions  

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