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via KansasCity.com

In the history of the rivalry between the Chiefs and Raiders there have been many great games and moments over 50 seasons.

This was not one of them.

What went down at the Oakland-Alameda County Coliseum on a sun-splashed Sunday afternoon was 60 minutes of mistakes, blunders and poor football.

Afterwards the Chiefs did not care a lick. They stole out of the East Bay with a 16-10 victory, their second of the season. It was the seventh consecutive victory for the Hunt family over the Davis clan.

Chiefs Win In Oakland Again, 16-10 from Bob Gretz

KC Star Photo Gallery: Chiefs 16, Raiders 10 | Sunday, Nov. 15

Jamaal Charles wasted no time claiming ownership of the newly vacant Chiefs running back job.

Charles delivered the Chiefs’ first individual 100-yard game of the season Sunday against the Raiders. He provided their first rushing touchdown, a brilliant 44-yarder on a fourth-down play.

The Chiefs needed every one of his 103 yards and that touchdown to take their second win of the season, 16-10.

Charles leads Chiefs to 16-10 win over Raiders from KC Star

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After being the victim on a couple of key plays in last week’s loss to Jacksonville, Chiefs safety Mike Brown promised coach Todd Haley he would make up for it Sunday against the Raiders.

Brown was good on his word in the Chiefs’ 16-10 win. He intercepted two passes in the fourth quarter, both on tipped balls. The last one came at the Chiefs’ 10-yard line with just 30 seconds left.

"I had the feeling," Brown said. "I told him I was going to get at least one.

"You know what they say. You’d rather be lucky than good. I just happened to be in the right spot."

Brown and defensive reserves make big plays for Chiefs from KC Star

I’m not sure what Ralph Nader is doing these days but I think he should investigate and sue the National Football League in the name of anyone who paid money to see the Chiefs and Raiders play on Sunday.

To call what happened on the field at the Oakland-Alameda County Coliseum "professional football" qualifies as fraud, bait and switch, deceptive advertising and assorted other crimes against the consumer and humanity.

Of course, with two bad teams facing off, it wasn’t like we were expecting a brand of football that would remind anybody of the playoffs. It certainly did not. There were so many negatives in this game, so many mental errors, so many dropped passes, poor passes, bad decisions and penalties.

COLUMN: THEY CALL THIS FOOTBALL? from Bob Gretz

“It was a toss outside and I saw everybody coming and they didn’t have anybody inside,” Charles said of the touchdown run. “I saw a hole and I just ran. I saw Chris (Chambers) make a good block and I just ran to the pylon.”

The run and his overall performance in the game continued a maturation process that Charles has shown in the last month. A lot of people forget that Charles won’t celebrate his 23rd birthday until next month. He’s still the guy who likes to slide down the railing on the steps the players use coming off the practice field and returning to the locker room. He still has those moments where coaches and teammates aren’t quite sure he’s focused in the way he should be.

But he’s getting better and growing according to Todd Haley.

Offense: Larry Who? from Bob Gretz

JaMarcus Russell said he was confused by being benched Sunday against the Chiefs. He said he thought he was being productive, if not perfect.

Whether Russell, Oakland’s starting quarterback, was putting an optimistic face on another sour performance — or testing the limits of denial — he and his replacement, Bruce Gradkowski, were as responsible as anyone for the Chiefs’ 16-10 victory.

Russell overthrew receivers and underthrew them. He threw to their left, to the right and far above their heads. Russell, the No. 1 pick in the 2007 NFL draft, was as erratic as ever Sunday, and it helped cost Oakland the win — and possibly Russell’s job.

Chiefs benefit from struggles of Raiders’ QBs from KC Star

Chiefs rookie kicker Ryan Succop made three of his four field-goal attempts Sunday, missing only from 52 yards. He made kicks from 50, 25 and 31 yards.

Succop has made 14 field goals this season, and he trails only Hall of Famer Jan Stenerud’s 21 field goals for the team’s record among rookies.

Chiefs blitz: Succop again proves he’s a weapon from KC Star

“There is going to be some bad, and there is going to be some good,” Brown said. “Hopefully there is more good than bad. At least that’s the way I look at it. I want to play perfect, but have I ever played perfect? No. It will probably never happen, but you still strive to be perfect.

“I just try to play hard and let the chips fall where they may.”

The chips fell into Brown’s hands on this afternoon, especially that final interception that ended a late Raiders attempt at a comeback victory.

DEFENSE: Redemption For Mike Brown from Bob Gretz

It’s hard to win the special teams phase of any game against the Raiders since they have one of the best kicking tandems in the league in Sebastian Janikowski and Shane Lechler.

And while the Chiefs may not have won the kicking battle, they at least broke even on Sunday and that helped seal the victory.

Nobody was busier than Lechler, who kicked 11 times and averaged 48.3 yards a boot. He put five of those punts inside the 20-yard line and his long punt was 57 yards.

But Chiefs punter Dustin Colquitt punted six times, for a 47.2 average and a net average of 47.5 yards. He knocked four of his six punts inside the 20-yard line and his long punt was 61 yards.

Raiders Have Problems & Other Notes from Bob Gretz

As the most inconsistent and frequently upgraded position group inches toward noticeable rhythm, the two Chiefs receivers are benefiting from the other’s presence. Bowe finally has a wingman, and Chambers has a receiver who relieves pressure while he proves he still belongs.

Bowe, the young receiver, was immature. Bullied by coach Todd Haley. Miles from his potential. Chambers, the old guy, was given up on by San Diego. He’s 31. That’s ancient in his universe. Now they’ve landed in the same wide-receiver corps, and both already are seeing benefits.

“We’re just trying to find out what pieces work together,” Chambers said, “and trying to build an identity.”

Bowe, Chambers give Chiefs some stability at receiver from KC Star

It’s difficult to know what to make out of this win over the Raiders because the Chiefs played against such a horrific quarterback in JaMarcus Russell. Sunday he had at least a dozen wide open receivers that he missed by throwing the ball too short or too high. Russell was eventually benched in favor of Bruce Gradkowski, but the game still dragged on and on.

It’s a good thing that the Raiders weren’t coached all that well on Sunday. Tom Cable had the Chiefs on their heels against Oakland’s running game, and had Russell been benched earlier, we might be talking about a different outcome. Even without a passing game, the combination of Michael Bush, Justin Fargas and Darren McFadden proved deadly.

Chiefs Show Life Signs In 16-10 Win from WPI

The Raiders' latest exhibition of self-hatred, a 16-10 loss to the equally young and defective Kansas City Chiefs before more than 20,000 empty seats Sunday at the Oakland Coliseum, captured in full a team caught in a web of despair, operating under a thin and paralyzed management and an increasingly distant or uninterested ownership.

In between, we find a coaching staff completely bereft of answers.

Not much has worked all season, and not much worked Sunday. It's beginning to look as if nothing the Raiders try, no matter how great it looks on paper or how well it works in practice, will translate into productive performance on game day.

For Raiders, Web of Gloom on Full Display in Loss to Chiefs from San Jose Mercury News

The JaMarcus Russell experiment needs to end. It needs to end as of today. He is not an NFL quarterback right now and he never will be an NFL quarterback. He is a failed experiment, a dud, a $30 million washout. You know it and I know it.

The only person who doesn’t know it is Al Davis, Al who lives in a parallel universe where Russell has solid mechanics and makes good throws that hit the crummy Raiders’ receivers in stride and never sail over their heads or nose-dive at their feet. In the real world, JaMarcus Russell is a catastrophe, one of the worst football signings in world history.

JaMarcus Russell an unmitigated disaster from The Press Democrat

Conner Barth Update for UC. =)

Connor Barth kicked himself into the NFL and Bucs record books Sunday. As a result, the likelihood of Barth getting the boot from the Bucs anytime soon has been greatly diminished.

"That was a glowing positive for us today," Bucs coach Raheem Morris said of Barth's performance, which included going 3-for-3 on field-goal tries, all of which were 50 yards or longer.

Barth kicked field goals of 51, 50 and 54 yards to set a franchise record and tie a league record and keep the Bucs in what proved to be a 25-23 loss to the Dolphins at Land Shark Stadium.

Barth kicks his way into record book from Tampa Bay Online

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Todd Haley, to his assistant head coach, Maurice Carthon, CBS
GH: Another assistant coach positioned himself in front of Haley after his outburst and walked him in the opposite direction from Carthon, who was not seen saying anything but was clearly the target of Haley’s f-you. I’m no purist and cursing on the athletic field has never bothered me. But cursing at your assistant head coach, in front of your players and staff, shows poor leadership on Haley’s part. Haley’s game-day conduct continues to make him look like an immature coach who is in over his head.
OTC: Haley F-Bombs His Asst. Coach & QB And Beats Raiders from KC Confidential

 

Player Tweets

almighty31 got that victory. wat should I do now?

Media and Fans

kb_kcstar Mike Brown ... torched someone else.
JoshLooney Raiders run all over the chiefs, decide to pass on 3rd and 3...result = INT...silly Raiders. Mike Brown with BIG INT
Adam_Schefter This is as hard to imagine as San Diego winning AFC West last year - Denver and San Diego tied for first this year

RockStarHoney08: RT @ACookOfficial: YES!!! WAY TO PLAY CHIEFS!!! Too bad i had to work but hahaha to all those who doubted

KodaFett: The Chiefs won and the Cowboys lost. What a WONDERFUL Sunday.

SomeHugeRetard: Chiefs won. But they still suck.

iWantnext: IntereSTATing: "the chiefs have won only 5 of their last 35 games (!), 3 of them have been in Oakland." thanks for the info @richeisen

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I’d rather be lucky than good

Sorry, Mike B… we’d rather you be good.

Nonetheless, I’ll take two interceptions and, even better, a much needed Chiefs victory!

by timmer on Nov 16, 2009 6:35 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

I think the saying is “Sometimes, it’s better to be lucky than good.” Someone should write a memo and let Mike Brown know that.

by EyePod on Nov 16, 2009 7:38 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Jamaal Charles deserves to be

the number 1 running back. Good riddance to Larry Johnson.

by G.L. on Nov 16, 2009 6:47 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

Good to see Barth doing well.

I liked good ol’ Barf. He was a Mog. Half Man/Half Dog. He was his own best friend. And he looked really good for us in a time of need.

I’d still take Succop over him though.

by EyePod on Nov 16, 2009 7:40 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

I'm not sure what any of that means

but it sure sounds good

Welcome to Chiefs REBUILD - Version 2.0 /The Clark Hunt Edition
Chiefs will be lucky to go 4-12 in 2010

by KansasCityShuffle on Nov 16, 2009 12:32 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Random...

but I saw Connor Barth hit a 50, 51 and 54 yarder for tampa bay Still happy we have Succop but good for Barth

Great players dont win championships.....Great TEAMS win championships

by DT58forever on Nov 16, 2009 8:00 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

I forgot...

Why was Haley screaming at Carthon again??? I saw it but, I forget what happened.

by Chiefsfan1970 on Nov 16, 2009 8:41 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

He called a timeout

 just before we stopped the Raiders on 4th down! Cost us a bunch of yards!

If you don't recount the problems and issues of the past you are doomed to repeat them!!!!!!!

by Fan of the Red And Gold on Nov 16, 2009 9:54 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Are you surprised?

For all those people who say, “Oh, what an ugly game!” All I can say is DUHHHHH!!! If you tuned into this game to watch great football I think you tuned into the wrong game. With that said a win is a win. If NE or IND or any other good team wins a game like this nobody says anything. These are the types of games that you have to find a way to win. If you expected us to look great on Sunday doing it then that is your stupid mistake.

by WeSUCK on Nov 16, 2009 8:47 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

Russell overthrew receivers and underthrew them. He threw to their left, to the right and far above their heads.

Good lord, JaMarcus is doing the tootsie roll.

by burntorangehorn on Nov 16, 2009 8:55 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

LJ better hurry up and sign with a team... if he's getting any offers.

Team’s that might be interested might start raising eyebrows when they see the new back taking the starting role is averaging 5.4 ypc. I have the feeling that Charles can at least keep it over 4 ypc as the season goes on.

All I’m saying is that LJ got branded with a “screw the team, I come first” mentality. The stats might make him look even more like a malcontent.

It's years like this that I wish I was a bear. Hibernation would make it so much easier.

by Red N Gold Beast on Nov 16, 2009 9:07 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

Personally, I hope it does!

If you don't recount the problems and issues of the past you are doomed to repeat them!!!!!!!

by Fan of the Red And Gold on Nov 16, 2009 9:56 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

The Connor Barth story just blows my mind

I think it’s nominated for storyline of the weekend. I came across the article independently and thought it was fanpost worthy in and of itself. Not one, not two, but three field goals from 50+ yards? Where did this newfound leg strength come from and exactly how windy was it? Does the 54 yard field goal top Succop’s longest?

Welcome to Chiefs REBUILD - Version 2.0 /The Clark Hunt Edition
Chiefs will be lucky to go 4-12 in 2010

by KansasCityShuffle on Nov 16, 2009 12:31 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Wow - Russell is a major league head case

If he could work up the energy to do something he could be Ryan Leaf. Yes, his receivers drop balls, but to think you’re doing OK and “being productive” when you’re 9 of 24 for 67 yards shows you don’t know what “productive” means. There’s confidence and then there is serious hallucinogenic-alternate-reality denial. Obviously he hasn’t gotten to the “admitting you have a problem” state yet so that any repair is possible.

"Bigamy is having one wife too many. Monogamy is the same." ~Oscar Wilde

by Big Chief on Nov 16, 2009 9:16 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

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