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Chiefs Drop the Raiders in Oakland

The Kansas City Chiefs got off to a slow start today against the Raiders but pulled it out, 16 to 10.

And Todd Haley is holding back a smile as he walks across the middle of the field after the game...

Here are some thoughts I will be adding to later:

The Good

  • Jamaal Charles rushing for over 100 yards.
  • The big offensive play showed up today - Charles' 44-yard TD run in the second quarter.
  • S Mike Brown....two picks? Those two picks may have saved his NFL career and the last one saved the game for the Chiefs.

The Bad

  • Three drops by the Chiefs' wide receivers.
  • Matt Cassel and Jamaal Charles had some miscues on exchanges.

The Ugly

  • Jamaal Charles...lost fumble. Even though it was pretty much on Cassel for the fumble.
  • Jamarcus Russell playing football.

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we won

UCrawford will eventually calm down and realize that Haley isn't a bad coach.
Will embrace the Fire Haley Bandwagon if we lose to the raiders by more then a TD...
..But we aren't going to lose.
LJ will not land in Pittsburgh
The Chiefs will not be the number one pick in this years draft
The Chiefs first pick of the draft will NOT be a OL
Thinks UCrawford just needs a hug... offer is there when you are ready UC :p

by Leaf on Nov 15, 2009 6:34 PM CST reply actions  

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!

UCrawford will eventually calm down and realize that Haley isn't a bad coach.
Will embrace the Fire Haley Bandwagon if we lose to the raiders by more then a TD...
..But we aren't going to lose.
LJ will not land in Pittsburgh
The Chiefs will not be the number one pick in this years draft
The Chiefs first pick of the draft will NOT be a OL
Thinks UCrawford just needs a hug... offer is there when you are ready UC :p

by Leaf on Nov 15, 2009 6:34 PM CST up reply actions  

yes sir we did, oh and Denver lost

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by GanjaChief on Nov 15, 2009 6:36 PM CST up reply actions  

Darius Heyward-Bey saved Todd Haley's bacon today

Haley should be beaten for not kicking the field goal on 4th and 1 from the 13.

And look at that, give Jamaal Charles the ball and he runs for 100 yards.

by ChiefDJ on Nov 15, 2009 6:35 PM CST reply actions  

i still don't blame him for that

it just didn’t pan out so we look back and try to say it was stupid but if it had you’d be in his bed naked right now

UCrawford will eventually calm down and realize that Haley isn't a bad coach.
Will embrace the Fire Haley Bandwagon if we lose to the raiders by more then a TD...
..But we aren't going to lose.
LJ will not land in Pittsburgh
The Chiefs will not be the number one pick in this years draft
The Chiefs first pick of the draft will NOT be a OL
Thinks UCrawford just needs a hug... offer is there when you are ready UC :p

by Leaf on Nov 15, 2009 6:36 PM CST up reply actions  

It was a dumbass move that is part of a pattern of dumbass moves

You’re playing a team that has a hard time scoring points because they have a retarded QB. He should have kicked the Field Goal. 3 points is better than 0 points.

by ChiefDJ on Nov 15, 2009 6:38 PM CST up reply actions  

call it what you will

but i would have made that call. it was poorly executed and in hindsight yah it looks like we should have gone for a field goal, but if it had worked it would have provided more then the 3 pts ever could. plus it’s not like it came back and bite us.

UCrawford will eventually calm down and realize that Haley isn't a bad coach.
Will embrace the Fire Haley Bandwagon if we lose to the raiders by more then a TD...
..But we aren't going to lose.
LJ will not land in Pittsburgh
The Chiefs will not be the number one pick in this years draft
The Chiefs first pick of the draft will NOT be a OL
Thinks UCrawford just needs a hug... offer is there when you are ready UC :p

by Leaf on Nov 15, 2009 6:40 PM CST up reply actions  

In foresight...it ALSO looked that way...

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by woodman212 on Nov 15, 2009 6:41 PM CST up reply actions  

If you made that call, I would call you a dumbass too.

No offense, I’m just saying it was overly aggressive and showed a total lack of understanding for the circumstances of the game.

by ChiefDJ on Nov 15, 2009 6:42 PM CST up reply actions  

and we called herm a pussy

for not making those calls and yet when haley does he’s a dumbass? you guys are just looking for something to bitch about

UCrawford will eventually calm down and realize that Haley isn't a bad coach.
Will embrace the Fire Haley Bandwagon if we lose to the raiders by more then a TD...
..But we aren't going to lose.
LJ will not land in Pittsburgh
The Chiefs will not be the number one pick in this years draft
The Chiefs first pick of the draft will NOT be a OL
Thinks UCrawford just needs a hug... offer is there when you are ready UC :p

by Leaf on Nov 15, 2009 6:48 PM CST up reply actions  

well maybe not as derogatory as that

but i know a lot of people were pissed about his overly conservative play calling. i can’t say whether or not you were in that group as i wasn’t a part of AP at the time, but i have been around long enough to know that a lot of people shared that sentiment.

UCrawford will eventually calm down and realize that Haley isn't a bad coach.
Will embrace the Fire Haley Bandwagon if we lose to the raiders by more then a TD...
..But we aren't going to lose.
LJ will not land in Pittsburgh
The Chiefs will not be the number one pick in this years draft
The Chiefs first pick of the draft will NOT be a OL
Thinks UCrawford just needs a hug... offer is there when you are ready UC :p

by Leaf on Nov 15, 2009 6:53 PM CST up reply actions  

Well we aren't discussing his play calling...

We are discussing his game management….It was bad game management….A high risk pass vs a low risk kick for 3….No contest.

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by woodman212 on Nov 15, 2009 6:55 PM CST up reply actions  

i'm not saying it wasn't high risk

but you have to take that risk in order to win big.

UCrawford will eventually calm down and realize that Haley isn't a bad coach.
Will embrace the Fire Haley Bandwagon if we lose to the raiders by more then a TD...
..But we aren't going to lose.
LJ will not land in Pittsburgh
The Chiefs will not be the number one pick in this years draft
The Chiefs first pick of the draft will NOT be a OL
Thinks UCrawford just needs a hug... offer is there when you are ready UC :p

by Leaf on Nov 15, 2009 6:56 PM CST up reply actions  

Haleys decisions SHOULD have LOST us the game.

If the Raiders were any kind of competent team and that last pass was cost, Haleys decision to go for it on 4th down would have cost us the game.

Being overly aggressive does not equal wins. Theres a reason why 31 out of 32 coaches in the NFL would have kicked the FG in that situation.
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by ChiefDJ on Nov 15, 2009 6:59 PM CST up reply actions  

not necessarily

they still needed in the endzone. not saying that wouldn’t have happened the past been caught but since it wasn’t we will never know

UCrawford will eventually calm down and realize that Haley isn't a bad coach.
Will embrace the Fire Haley Bandwagon if we lose to the raiders by more then a TD...
..But we aren't going to lose.
LJ will not land in Pittsburgh
The Chiefs will not be the number one pick in this years draft
The Chiefs first pick of the draft will NOT be a OL
Thinks UCrawford just needs a hug... offer is there when you are ready UC :p

by Leaf on Nov 15, 2009 7:04 PM CST up reply actions  

if the raiders were an kind of competent team

we would never had been in it so that argument is weak

UCrawford will eventually calm down and realize that Haley isn't a bad coach.
Will embrace the Fire Haley Bandwagon if we lose to the raiders by more then a TD...
..But we aren't going to lose.
LJ will not land in Pittsburgh
The Chiefs will not be the number one pick in this years draft
The Chiefs first pick of the draft will NOT be a OL
Thinks UCrawford just needs a hug... offer is there when you are ready UC :p

by Leaf on Nov 15, 2009 7:01 PM CST up reply actions  

at least i'm not the only one with that idea here

i love the good old days of marty ball as much as the next one but i also remember, all to clearly, the times that marty never risked a damn thing and we would go out in the first round of the play offs. no more. if we can’t win the damn super bowl then in my opinion we might as well be a 1-15 team.

UCrawford will eventually calm down and realize that Haley isn't a bad coach.
Will embrace the Fire Haley Bandwagon if we lose to the raiders by more then a TD...
..But we aren't going to lose.
LJ will not land in Pittsburgh
The Chiefs will not be the number one pick in this years draft
The Chiefs first pick of the draft will NOT be a OL
Thinks UCrawford just needs a hug... offer is there when you are ready UC :p

by Leaf on Nov 15, 2009 7:07 PM CST up reply actions  

Yes, people who are as reckless and overly aggressive as Haley

There was absolutely no reason whatsoever to go for it on 4th down (and a freaking passing play at that) in that situation.

The Chiefs have problems moving the ball and the Raiders have robo Kicker that can hit from 60 yds. They should have taken the points any way they coudl get them.

The Chiefs are only converting 22% of their 3rd downs. They have not shown any abilitiy whatsoever to convert short yardage reliably.

Take the freaking points and play to win.

by ChiefDJ on Nov 15, 2009 6:57 PM CST up reply actions  

they are converting crap for 3rd down

because most of our 3rd downs aren’t short yardage. the play call was smart as the entire defense was think we were going to run at them. we didn’t execute that’s all.

UCrawford will eventually calm down and realize that Haley isn't a bad coach.
Will embrace the Fire Haley Bandwagon if we lose to the raiders by more then a TD...
..But we aren't going to lose.
LJ will not land in Pittsburgh
The Chiefs will not be the number one pick in this years draft
The Chiefs first pick of the draft will NOT be a OL
Thinks UCrawford just needs a hug... offer is there when you are ready UC :p

by Leaf on Nov 15, 2009 7:01 PM CST up reply actions  

The low risk, high reward play on the earlier 4th and short would have been to punt the ball

and pin the raiders deep. Especially when we have a stud punter in coquitt. However Haley went for it and we ended up with our first rushing TD of the year. The only reason we were up 13-10 in the first place was because of that earlier gamble.

by Fourstrike89 on Nov 15, 2009 7:18 PM CST up reply actions  

exactly

UCrawford will eventually calm down and realize that Haley isn't a bad coach.
Will embrace the Fire Haley Bandwagon if we lose to the raiders by more then a TD...
..But we aren't going to lose.
LJ will not land in Pittsburgh
The Chiefs will not be the number one pick in this years draft
The Chiefs first pick of the draft will NOT be a OL
Thinks UCrawford just needs a hug... offer is there when you are ready UC :p

by Leaf on Nov 15, 2009 8:14 PM CST up reply actions  

I have to agree DJ

Winning begins with Attitude - Haley and Pioli will be winners in KC!

I'll forever be a Chiefs fan! Only God himself could take that away from me, but when I get to my great reward, I'll rejoin two bigger fans, my Mom and Dad.

by Lanier63 on Nov 15, 2009 6:41 PM CST up reply actions  

I agree with DJ, as well.

-"If you have sex with a clone of yourself, is that incest or masturbation?" -ZP

-Erykah Badu, I have accepted your proposal. So, Mrs. DTR, let's get to consummating...you are on notice.

-"All praise Chiefus."

by DThomasReigns on Nov 15, 2009 7:18 PM CST up reply actions  

yep....

Should have kicked that…no brainer.

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by woodman212 on Nov 15, 2009 6:38 PM CST up reply actions  

Charles still puts the ball on the ground too damn much

He has way too many plays where he loses the ball after the tackle. If he doesn’t fix that it’s only a matter of time until he costs us a game. Hopefully his position coach can get him through this. But at least I understand why Haley didn’t move him ahead of 2.7.

"Bigamy is having one wife too many. Monogamy is the same." ~Oscar Wilde

by Big Chief on Nov 15, 2009 7:04 PM CST up reply actions  

3rd down conversions were ugly also

Can we get rid of the draw from the shotgun?

A win is a win and I enjoyed it, we’re lucky we played Oakland

Johnnie Morton: The Man. The Myth. The Legend.

by craig in calgary on Nov 15, 2009 6:35 PM CST reply actions   1 recs

Raiders...tear

Playoffs?! Don't talk about playoffs! Are you kidding me? Playoffs?!

by Kristospherein on Nov 15, 2009 6:36 PM CST reply actions  

MIKE BROWN SAVED HALEY.

not trying for an fg was inexcusable earlier.

Bowe and Wade FTW.
When you fail to prepare, you prepare to fail.

by NJChieffan16 on Nov 15, 2009 6:36 PM CST reply actions  

Jamarcus won the game today for us, he has no business as an NFL QB

If I hear one member of AP rag on Cassel, after watching Russell for 3 quarters, gonna start pullin hair out.

by RedZoneMan on Nov 15, 2009 6:36 PM CST reply actions  

no, it wasn't Russell

Al Davis has a man-crush on Russell. Think about it.

Cassel vs. Thigpen in Camp should improve the play of both.
Linebackers: looking better
D-lineL slight improvement
O-line: WTF?!?

by Bleedingredandgold on Nov 15, 2009 10:47 PM CST up reply actions  

This game was all around ugly.

Bowe and Wade FTW.
When you fail to prepare, you prepare to fail.

by NJChieffan16 on Nov 15, 2009 6:36 PM CST reply actions  

Congratulation to the wins of the Chiefs

 You fought hard last week against us. You deserve the win today. Keep Winning KC; keep winning!!!!!

Life without knowledge is death in disguise

by Zoltan from Budapest on Nov 15, 2009 6:36 PM CST reply actions  

Hey Zoltan Bozmek akečke

by Basta on Nov 15, 2009 6:37 PM CST up reply actions  

What is that?

I’m hungarian; that is-I belive Czech or something. But thanks; I guess it means thank you (in Hungarian Köszi szépen)

Life without knowledge is death in disguise

by Zoltan from Budapest on Nov 15, 2009 6:50 PM CST up reply actions  

And I appreciate it!

Life without knowledge is death in disguise

by Zoltan from Budapest on Nov 15, 2009 6:51 PM CST up reply actions  

Congrats on your win today too

We Will kick at least 4 Teams Asses in 09
And Succop will be the Key in two of them.
" Think and talk positive football off the field." Hank Stram

by Steve_Chiefs on Nov 15, 2009 7:06 PM CST up reply actions  

Thanks it was a nailbiter

a thriller but we got a win from there

Life without knowledge is death in disguise

by Zoltan from Budapest on Nov 15, 2009 7:07 PM CST up reply actions  

MJD said this after the game

Coach said take a knee. Sorry, to my fantasy owners," Jones-Drew said.

Life without knowledge is death in disguise

by Zoltan from Budapest on Nov 15, 2009 10:15 PM CST up reply actions  

I guess I would have done the same in his shoes

Taking the knee and all. Still going to be pissed if I lose though! I believe it was Westbrook who screwed last year by doing the same thing…

Cry Havoc! And let slip the Chiefs Defense of War!!!

by nateforchiefs on Nov 15, 2009 10:48 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah

Life without knowledge is death in disguise

by Zoltan from Budapest on Nov 15, 2009 10:52 PM CST up reply actions  

Thanks Zoltan

Nice of you to stop in. I have a good friend from Budapest too, grew up on the Buda side.

by Supersport on Nov 16, 2009 8:27 AM CST up reply actions  

Hey UCrawford...

6 points is a touchdown. You can’t count the extra point its separate. Peoples souls are saved!

by I_Bleed_Red. on Nov 15, 2009 6:36 PM CST reply actions   1 recs

+1

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by GanjaChief on Nov 15, 2009 6:37 PM CST up reply actions  

You obviously have NO IDEA of the terms of the bet.

Before you judge a man, walk a mile in his shoes; after that, who cares?! He's a mile away and you've got his shoes!

by SuperTurtle on Nov 15, 2009 6:37 PM CST up reply actions  

well.....

i dont know

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by GanjaChief on Nov 15, 2009 6:40 PM CST up reply actions  

not in the original post at least

Winning begins with Attitude - Haley and Pioli will be winners in KC!

I'll forever be a Chiefs fan! Only God himself could take that away from me, but when I get to my great reward, I'll rejoin two bigger fans, my Mom and Dad.

by Lanier63 on Nov 15, 2009 6:40 PM CST up reply actions  

Well...

I’m not lawyer, but any other stipulations after the original contract are void.

by I_Bleed_Red. on Nov 15, 2009 6:41 PM CST up reply actions  

As a neutral

If anyone had asked before the game, I think everyone would have agreed that a TD is 7 points.

by ChiefDJ on Nov 15, 2009 6:43 PM CST up reply actions  

And I'm about as neutral as you get

I don’t like Todd Haley and am a former nemesis of UCrawford. :)

by ChiefDJ on Nov 15, 2009 6:44 PM CST up reply actions  

lol

you guys are like brothers :)

Winning begins with Attitude - Haley and Pioli will be winners in KC!

I'll forever be a Chiefs fan! Only God himself could take that away from me, but when I get to my great reward, I'll rejoin two bigger fans, my Mom and Dad.

by Lanier63 on Nov 15, 2009 6:45 PM CST up reply actions  

It Was Discussed In The Thread

7 points is considered a touchdown for the bet and I said explicitly that I meant seven points.

Moderator - Arrowhead Pride
Predictions for 2009

Fire Haley now.

Save UCrawford's soul as a Chiefs fan...or lose your own. Take the bet.

http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2009/11/9/1123799/the-driver-of-the-fire-haley

by UCrawford on Nov 16, 2009 4:55 PM CST up reply actions  

chiefs had to win be a touchdown so that way uc has to stop bitchin about haley and six pts is a td

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by GanjaChief on Nov 15, 2009 6:39 PM CST up reply actions  

UC Said
If Todd Haley can get the Chiefs to beat the Oakland Raiders this Sunday by a touchdown or more (and it must be a touchdown or more), I will admit that I was far too hasty in my assessment of Haley and will retract my stated desire to see him fired immediately (preferably out of a cannon)

Winning begins with Attitude - Haley and Pioli will be winners in KC!

I'll forever be a Chiefs fan! Only God himself could take that away from me, but when I get to my great reward, I'll rejoin two bigger fans, my Mom and Dad.

by Lanier63 on Nov 15, 2009 6:39 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

He said 7 or more to me

Before you judge a man, walk a mile in his shoes; after that, who cares?! He's a mile away and you've got his shoes!

by SuperTurtle on Nov 15, 2009 6:41 PM CST up reply actions  

Lets let UC have his say...lol

Winning begins with Attitude - Haley and Pioli will be winners in KC!

I'll forever be a Chiefs fan! Only God himself could take that away from me, but when I get to my great reward, I'll rejoin two bigger fans, my Mom and Dad.

by Lanier63 on Nov 15, 2009 6:43 PM CST up reply actions  

I Said Seven Points

I don’t consider six to be a touchdown…six is two field goals.

Moderator - Arrowhead Pride
Predictions for 2009

Fire Haley now.

Save UCrawford's soul as a Chiefs fan...or lose your own. Take the bet.

http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2009/11/9/1123799/the-driver-of-the-fire-haley

by UCrawford on Nov 16, 2009 4:56 PM CST up reply actions  

Lets let UC have his say...lol

Winning begins with Attitude - Haley and Pioli will be winners in KC!

I'll forever be a Chiefs fan! Only God himself could take that away from me, but when I get to my great reward, I'll rejoin two bigger fans, my Mom and Dad.

by Lanier63 on Nov 15, 2009 6:43 PM CST up reply actions  

LOL

I was wondering about that!

Winning begins with Attitude - Haley and Pioli will be winners in KC!

I'll forever be a Chiefs fan! Only God himself could take that away from me, but when I get to my great reward, I'll rejoin two bigger fans, my Mom and Dad.

by Lanier63 on Nov 15, 2009 6:37 PM CST up reply actions  

you know he's not going to change his stance

after that mediocre performance with this loophole

UCrawford will eventually calm down and realize that Haley isn't a bad coach.
Will embrace the Fire Haley Bandwagon if we lose to the raiders by more then a TD...
..But we aren't going to lose.
LJ will not land in Pittsburgh
The Chiefs will not be the number one pick in this years draft
The Chiefs first pick of the draft will NOT be a OL
Thinks UCrawford just needs a hug... offer is there when you are ready UC :p

by Leaf on Nov 15, 2009 6:37 PM CST up reply actions  

And it was mediocre

Yes we win. And I love it! We freaking WIN! But… wow, so much to improve on. Against anyone else, and we would have been looking at a horrid loss. I’m not complaining. Just saying that at this point in the year, I wanted to see us on the road to constant improvement. We have a win, but I’m not sure we’re on that road yet. I’m not even sure we have the map to get us on to that road. Hell, we’re driving around, looking lost, afraid to stop at a gas station to ask simple directions. :) You all can input whomever you would like into all the analogies above… But you get my drift.

by Eastcoastransplant on Nov 15, 2009 6:54 PM CST up reply actions  

Two Wins !

Chiefs win, and so does U.C.

Toby J. Neal

by chiefs24 on Nov 15, 2009 6:36 PM CST reply actions  

What street did Haley get these guys off of?

Winning begins with Attitude - Haley and Pioli will be winners in KC!

I'll forever be a Chiefs fan! Only God himself could take that away from me, but when I get to my great reward, I'll rejoin two bigger fans, my Mom and Dad.

by Lanier63 on Nov 15, 2009 6:36 PM CST reply actions  

We have won as many as last years team with 7 more games and 2 are teams at the bottom of there division

by karkz86 on Nov 15, 2009 6:41 PM CST up reply actions  

It's the little things....let it happen lol

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by woodman212 on Nov 15, 2009 6:42 PM CST up reply actions  

Ugly game...

but you know what a win is a win, and lord am I glad we beat the raiders

by Pontiaclvr on Nov 15, 2009 6:37 PM CST reply actions  

You can say that twice and mean it.

And to think, we have an NFL record of consecutive wins, beating a team in their hometown. Us vs the Raiders in Oakland, is like 7 and 0…

by Eastcoastransplant on Nov 15, 2009 6:57 PM CST up reply actions  

It wasn't perfect by any stretch

but I don’t care right now. We can discuss the problems during the week, Right now all I care about is the Chiefs beat the Raiders!

by bh13 on Nov 15, 2009 6:37 PM CST reply actions  

Haha

LOL I said the same thing. He intercepted Flowers’ interception.

Joe

Raiders Suck!!!

by pokerjoe on Nov 15, 2009 6:58 PM CST up reply actions  

Flowers would have dropped

like always.

"Bigamy is having one wife too many. Monogamy is the same." ~Oscar Wilde

by Big Chief on Nov 15, 2009 7:06 PM CST up reply actions  

AWESOME WIN! Now...

GO PEYTON MANNING GO!!! Make this an even better night!!! =)

by bwelch37 on Nov 15, 2009 6:38 PM CST reply actions  

Thank you Lord

I was on the edge the entire game and right now, I don’t care how ugly it was, WE WON

by TXChiefan on Nov 15, 2009 6:38 PM CST reply actions  

Not on edge

just scared as hell we would find someway to screw it up, so I kept going out to the garage so I wouldn’t have to witness it.

by Hoochdawg on Nov 15, 2009 7:17 PM CST up reply actions  

we at least tied last years team

UCrawford will eventually calm down and realize that Haley isn't a bad coach.
Will embrace the Fire Haley Bandwagon if we lose to the raiders by more then a TD...
..But we aren't going to lose.
LJ will not land in Pittsburgh
The Chiefs will not be the number one pick in this years draft
The Chiefs first pick of the draft will NOT be a OL
Thinks UCrawford just needs a hug... offer is there when you are ready UC :p

by Leaf on Nov 15, 2009 6:38 PM CST reply actions  

yEP.

Cluster ave.

Toby J. Neal

by chiefs24 on Nov 15, 2009 6:38 PM CST reply actions  

And we beat the Redskins

while Denver melted! Toasts all around. A winisawinisawinisawin.

by nycchief on Nov 15, 2009 6:39 PM CST reply actions  

Im not Stone Cold

But Give Me A
HELL YEAAAAAA

~Im a star n the making just ask about me im soon to be da Chiefs 1st round pick~

by Da Chiefs Guy on Nov 15, 2009 6:40 PM CST reply actions  

Bad mouth boy

i just got n trouble by my dad for using bad words as he say but who cares the CHIEFS WON so im say it again The Fucking Chiefs Won

~Im a star n the making just ask about me im soon to be da Chiefs 1st round pick~

by Da Chiefs Guy on Nov 15, 2009 6:42 PM CST up reply actions  

How does a guy make an incredible sideline grab like that one play...

then look like a clapping seal on the next play with a ball that hit him right in the numbers.

"Success is never ending, failure is never final."

by GenericBrand on Nov 15, 2009 6:40 PM CST reply actions  

You play to win the game.

Playoffs?! Don't talk about playoffs! Are you kidding me? Playoffs?!

by Kristospherein on Nov 15, 2009 6:41 PM CST reply actions   1 recs

Man, that's a gooood feeling.

No one ever says, "It's only a game" when their team is winning.
George Carlin-R.I.P.

by idahochieffan on Nov 15, 2009 6:42 PM CST reply actions  

I said this on the previous thread... And I hate to be Debbie Downer...

but this win does not make me feel better about the Chiefs.

This space for rent.

by averagegatsby on Nov 15, 2009 6:42 PM CST reply actions  

Yep

and next week? A pissed of Steeler team.

Uh Ohhh

Johnnie Morton: The Man. The Myth. The Legend.

by craig in calgary on Nov 15, 2009 6:43 PM CST up reply actions   2 recs

was thinking about the steelers next week

but savor it. tied in wins from last year :-p

by worc on Nov 15, 2009 6:44 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm going to that game

I don’t quite know how to feel about it

by Aperture on Nov 15, 2009 6:45 PM CST up reply actions  

to clear things up

The bet was “If the Chiefs win by 7 points or more then Ucrawford will jump off the Fire Haley bandwagon. If the Chiefs lose by 7 points or more then whoever took the bet would jump on the Fire Haley bandwagon. If neither team wins by 7 then the bet is off and the fans stay on whichever side they please.”

The point was to have a “horrible win/loss” or “blowout” if you will. If there is no blowout then there is no decision. However, I think we should still try to convince UC to hop off the bandwagon, 6 points is close right?

:-)

Running game looked decent, I would even run the ball more than we did this week in the future.

We need to get a punt returner. All Punt returns looked awful.

Cassel looked competent for the most part.

The offensive line looked competent give or take a few breakdowns.

The defense looked better than it has since the last time we played Oakland. Imagine that. They didn’t allow any huge plays, especially from the run, so that is a plus.

Chambers has been huge. He opens up the field in a big way for the other receivers.

I’m out.

by Lucasjr5 on Nov 15, 2009 6:42 PM CST reply actions  

Where was that written in the original post?

Winning begins with Attitude - Haley and Pioli will be winners in KC!

I'll forever be a Chiefs fan! Only God himself could take that away from me, but when I get to my great reward, I'll rejoin two bigger fans, my Mom and Dad.

by Lanier63 on Nov 15, 2009 6:44 PM CST up reply actions  

http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2009/11/9/1123799/the-driver-of-the-fire-haley

Winning begins with Attitude - Haley and Pioli will be winners in KC!

I'll forever be a Chiefs fan! Only God himself could take that away from me, but when I get to my great reward, I'll rejoin two bigger fans, my Mom and Dad.

by Lanier63 on Nov 15, 2009 6:46 PM CST up reply actions  

He fine tuned the bet during the discussion

A sub touchdown win is a wash.

All losses in the 2009 season will be Herm and Carls fault.

by Idahochief on Nov 15, 2009 6:47 PM CST up reply actions  

however a touchdown is only six points

All losses in the 2009 season will be Herm and Carls fault.

by Idahochief on Nov 15, 2009 6:47 PM CST up reply actions  

7 points or more, just stay on the bandwagon :/

somethings gonna happen next game and everyone jumps back on bandwagon. rinse repeat etc. who cares. got a win today!

by worc on Nov 15, 2009 6:46 PM CST up reply actions  

I think UC deserves to enjoy his draw :)

The status of bandwagon remains the same as I see it.

We Will kick at least 4 Teams Asses in 09
And Succop will be the Key in two of them.
" Think and talk positive football off the field." Hank Stram

by Steve_Chiefs on Nov 15, 2009 7:13 PM CST up reply actions  

Ahh the sweet taste of Victory

But damn, seriously this was ugly and Rudy looks like our best tackler on the team!

by readANDgold58 on Nov 15, 2009 6:43 PM CST reply actions  

Gottcha!!!!!!

They gottcha on that one U.C.!!!!!!

Toby J. Neal

by chiefs24 on Nov 15, 2009 6:43 PM CST reply actions  

A win is a win

Jamaal Charles had a good game. That fumble was Cassel’s fault, not his. Haley should have kicked the chipshot FG. Brandon Flowers played very well, but should have had 2 INTs. Mike Brown I thought looked good. On that long Michael Bush run it looked like Tyson Jackson let go, not Mike Brown, but I only saw the replay of that one.

Also, Rudy Niswanger looked decent to me. His block on that long Charles run really sprung him. I was also glad Leonard Pope got the start over Sean Ryan, he played good enough to win the spot. Would have liked to see Brad Cottam out there.

My biggest concern is Mike Vrabel. Any news on the injury?

Positve: Jamaal Charles, Mike Brown, O-Line
Negative: Mike Vrabel injury?

by Nick Britt on Nov 15, 2009 6:43 PM CST reply actions  

Honestly...

I would like to see what we have out of Studebaker. Lets be honest, Vrabel isn’t coming back next year. I think it will turn out positive if we can use the rest of the season to see what we have out of Andy.

by I_Bleed_Red. on Nov 15, 2009 6:45 PM CST up reply actions  

I saw Studebaker make some mistakes

We need Vrabel out there. Sure we are 2-7 but that doesn’t mean the best players shouldn’t be playing.

by Nick Britt on Nov 15, 2009 6:48 PM CST up reply actions  

Maybe true but I doubt it happens if Vrabel is healthy he will start

by karkz86 on Nov 15, 2009 6:48 PM CST up reply actions  

Ugly but

SOOOOO happy for the next week.

Would ya like a free NANAA!

by Jazzy Megalodon on Nov 15, 2009 6:43 PM CST reply actions  

I’m happy until next week

by karkz86 on Nov 15, 2009 6:46 PM CST up reply actions  

Not to ruin everyones parade but.....

Pittsburg is going to man handle the Chiefs next week….

by Dminkc on Nov 15, 2009 6:47 PM CST reply actions  

yep.

savor the win though while you can. :]

by worc on Nov 15, 2009 6:47 PM CST up reply actions  

i agree

But it’s going to be a sour reality check next week…. I’m still confused on how we almost beat the Ravens in week one..WOW!

by Dminkc on Nov 15, 2009 6:48 PM CST up reply actions  

just like they man handled the bungles today

All losses in the 2009 season will be Herm and Carls fault.

by Idahochief on Nov 15, 2009 6:50 PM CST up reply actions  

just like they man handled the bungles today

All losses in the 2009 season will be Herm and Carls fault.

by Idahochief on Nov 15, 2009 6:50 PM CST up reply actions  

the Bungles have been playing pretty good football no shame in losing there we have lost worse teams and only beaten worse ones

by karkz86 on Nov 15, 2009 6:51 PM CST up reply actions  

get out!

Just like novocaine. give it time; always works..

by be cee on Nov 15, 2009 6:54 PM CST up reply actions  

Worst case scenario

Pittsburgh signs 2.7 because they were killed by their lack of running game today and he comes in and destroys us. Could happen. All I’m looking for in next weeks game is to see some improvement in the coordination of our playmakers – Cassel, Charles, Bowe, Chambers and Long. With the exception of Bowe and Cassel, these guys haven’t had a chance to work together that much. Things are looking up.

Best part of this game – the D held when the game was on the line. I still think the DHB catch was a hometown call by a struggling group of refs.

"Bigamy is having one wife too many. Monogamy is the same." ~Oscar Wilde

by Big Chief on Nov 15, 2009 7:12 PM CST up reply actions  

Other good part

we actually properly defended two roll out passes. We didn’t defend two roll outs all of last year.

"Bigamy is having one wife too many. Monogamy is the same." ~Oscar Wilde

by Big Chief on Nov 15, 2009 7:12 PM CST up reply actions  

of coarse any real team would look at the way charles played today

and realize that LJ is washed up. they both played behind the same line and yet LJ couldn’t muster more than 2.7 ypc and no TDs.

UCrawford will eventually calm down and realize that Haley isn't a bad coach.
Will embrace the Fire Haley Bandwagon if we lose to the raiders by more then a TD...
..But we aren't going to lose.
LJ will not land in Pittsburgh
The Chiefs will not be the number one pick in this years draft
The Chiefs first pick of the draft will NOT be a OL
Thinks UCrawford just needs a hug... offer is there when you are ready UC :p

by Leaf on Nov 15, 2009 10:30 PM CST up reply actions  

Horribly UGLY! Hard to watch!

Yes, I am so glad we won but it is hard to watch this team a bit. Good job Charles!

by casselreadychiefs on Nov 15, 2009 6:47 PM CST reply actions  

Can't disagree....

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by woodman212 on Nov 15, 2009 6:48 PM CST up reply actions  

Question for the authors of the site

I’m doing a research project over the Chiefs for school. I was wondering where you get all of your stats from, specifically the run defense stats with which lanes have been run on the most.

by The_Bernard_Pollard_Rule on Nov 15, 2009 6:49 PM CST reply actions  

Dude, Google it !!!!

Do you want AP to write your paper for you as well….

by Dminkc on Nov 15, 2009 6:50 PM CST up reply actions  

Do you think they would?

by The_Bernard_Pollard_Rule on Nov 15, 2009 6:53 PM CST up reply actions   2 recs

nice.

don’t let these pretend grumpy old farts push you around

UCrawford will eventually calm down and realize that Haley isn't a bad coach.
Will embrace the Fire Haley Bandwagon if we lose to the raiders by more then a TD...
..But we aren't going to lose.
LJ will not land in Pittsburgh
The Chiefs will not be the number one pick in this years draft
The Chiefs first pick of the draft will NOT be a OL
Thinks UCrawford just needs a hug... offer is there when you are ready UC :p

by Leaf on Nov 15, 2009 6:55 PM CST up reply actions  

Seriously though. My report is due at 8 in the morning. I kind of need to know if someone is going to write it for me or not.

by The_Bernard_Pollard_Rule on Nov 15, 2009 6:56 PM CST up reply actions  

No, cheater.

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by woodman212 on Nov 15, 2009 6:57 PM CST up reply actions  

Get to work young man!

Nothing works better than being under the gun due to procrastination…trust me, thats how I roll! Get er’ Done!

by casselreadychiefs on Nov 15, 2009 6:58 PM CST up reply actions  

He was looking for the info source. Relax

by T-Rich on Nov 15, 2009 11:24 PM CST up reply actions  

we keep track of the stats during the game

it’s haaaaaaaaard

Ralph Wiggum would be a better GM than Dayton Moore

by BHWick on Nov 15, 2009 6:55 PM CST up reply actions  

Westbrook will retire I bet...

LJ could be an Eagle by the end of the week….

by Dminkc on Nov 15, 2009 6:54 PM CST reply actions  

He got concussed again.

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by woodman212 on Nov 15, 2009 6:55 PM CST up reply actions  

at least he got some playing time

the Pitch was dissing Funkhouser because he started Westbrook last week, when he missed the game

Ralph Wiggum would be a better GM than Dayton Moore

by BHWick on Nov 15, 2009 6:56 PM CST up reply actions  

Retirement doubtful....maybe just IR....

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by woodman212 on Nov 15, 2009 6:56 PM CST up reply actions  

Yep..

Left the game w/ another concussion today.

by Dminkc on Nov 15, 2009 6:56 PM CST up reply actions  

concussions are a big problem these days

Just like novocaine. give it time; always works..

by be cee on Nov 15, 2009 7:24 PM CST up reply actions  

Cassel was charged with that fumble:

  1. Kansas City Chiefs at 02:18
  2. 1-10-OAK 48 (2:18) (Shotgun) 7-M.Cassel FUMBLES (Aborted) at KC 49, RECOVERED by OAK-53-T.Howard at KC 49. 53-T.Howard to KC 49 for no gain (7-M.Cassel).

by EyePod on Nov 15, 2009 6:54 PM CST reply actions  

ugly and sloppy...

but a win is a win…definitely some major work to do.

by MountainManMike on Nov 15, 2009 6:59 PM CST reply actions  

hmmmm...

mike brown. what do we think now? im proud of him for redeeming himself , but…

Just like novocaine. give it time; always works..

by be cee on Nov 15, 2009 7:00 PM CST reply actions  

Yes sir...

That was a great way to come back..

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by woodman212 on Nov 15, 2009 7:01 PM CST up reply actions  

and of course

A WIN IS A WIN BABY WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

by Coady on Nov 15, 2009 7:07 PM CST up reply actions  

we get 3?

No one ever says, "It's only a game" when their team is winning.
George Carlin-R.I.P.

by idahochieffan on Nov 15, 2009 7:08 PM CST up reply actions  

Yes, on a lucky turnover on the 24 yard line. 3 and out and we kick the field goal!

by Coady on Nov 15, 2009 7:10 PM CST up reply actions  

Yes, on a lucky turnover on the 24 yard line. 3 and out and we kick the field goal!

by Coady on Nov 15, 2009 7:10 PM CST up reply actions  

shut your mouth

Just like novocaine. give it time; always works..

by be cee on Nov 15, 2009 7:08 PM CST up reply actions  

Jamaal "Janky" Charles, how far we have come

 this guy almost lost the game for us at the end….

But Charles did the whooping (not today’s game, but you get the picture)

Hats off for the Chiefs first 100 yd rushing game. Good job to Mike Brown, Dwayne Bowe, M.Cassell, and C.Chambers.

We will once again be amongst the NFL's elite!!!

by KrazyKreamChief on Nov 15, 2009 7:15 PM CST reply actions  

Um, JC made like 4 cuts on that one play. It was sweet.

by EyePod on Nov 15, 2009 7:24 PM CST up reply actions  

Mike Brown still looked like crap. He was in the right place at the right time though.

by EyePod on Nov 15, 2009 7:24 PM CST reply actions  

I am not a fan of Brown

but he also made two solo shoestring tackles when he was the last guy to beat on would be touchdowns. I know it’s his job to make these tackles, but he did it. And he didn’t drop either of his int’s, even though he was just in the right place at the right time. He did what he was supposed to be, and for a 2-7 team, that’s a lot to be said.

by 1kmilesfromkc on Nov 15, 2009 7:39 PM CST up reply actions  

ugly/good

the ugly to me was that most of the OL issues came from the right side…
and worse even was that 1st qtr

the real good…
right side of OL
and Pope starting

by kcstevesportsfan on Nov 15, 2009 7:48 PM CST reply actions  

too close for comfort

and they damn near blew it. but…they didnt. feels good to get a win, and to beat those jokers.

Just like novocaine. give it time; always works..

by be cee on Nov 15, 2009 8:10 PM CST reply actions  

2close

would you rather lose again?

by kcstevesportsfan on Nov 15, 2009 8:30 PM CST up reply actions  

of course not

just a fact. wish it woulda been more of an overall performance, and more dominant, as im sure we all do but being the positive person i am, looking on the bright side. great to get a win, and fight hard to get it. a good sign…

Just like novocaine. give it time; always works..

by be cee on Nov 15, 2009 8:44 PM CST up reply actions  

Everyone saying congrats to Cassel?

1 pick – 0 td’s, almost 2 picks, 2 fumbles……..He got in Charles’ way on one hand-off that I noticed.

Did Russel’s play really make Cassel look that good to some of you?

He made a few good throws, but we won in spite of Cassel, and we won in spite of our rush defense.

Better lucky than good today though.

by mcclanahanman on Nov 15, 2009 8:14 PM CST reply actions  

and....?

what do you plan to do about it? nothing. be negative when we finally have a positive. go away…

Just like novocaine. give it time; always works..

by be cee on Nov 15, 2009 8:26 PM CST up reply actions  

lets c....

we won
pick on play that chambers should have caught

we won
rt side of OL was BAD

we won
russell makes all but mcnabb look good!!!

we won
rush D was pretty good after 1st qtr

\better to win than be lucky or goodlol

by kcstevesportsfan on Nov 15, 2009 8:35 PM CST up reply actions  

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