On Paper, the Chiefs Beat the Raiders in Week Two
In almost every aspect of the game except for that pesky final score box...
Yes, I know the Kansas City Chiefs lost that game. But each week, as my eyes scroll past those Raider game stats, I keep asking myself, "Wait, how did we lose that game again?"
Here's what I'm talking about from Week 2. The Chiefs' offense had:
- 409 yards of offense, by far the best performance of the year
- 173 yards rushing on 38 rushing plays
- 236 yards passing, five yards less than Matt Cassel's best game of the year
- Only given up two sacks, the lowest sack total of the year
Somehow, the Chiefs only managed three points in the first three quarters. How did the defense fare? Really well actually. Here's what the Chiefs gave up to the Raiders on defense:
- 166 total yards
- 11 first downs
- Two sacks
- 67 yards rushing
- 99 yards passing
- Jamarcus Russell only completed seven passes
- The Raiders were only 3/13 on third downs
Exactly how did the Chiefs lose this game?
- The Raiders emphasized stuffing the run and it for the most part it worked. The Chiefs rushed for quite a few yards but it was never a consistent threat that KC could rely on. It was more about random rushes that succeeded than the Chiefs imposing their will.
- Matt Cassel had two INTs, one at the beginning of the third quarter and one at the begining of the fourth.
- DE Wallace Gilberry's personal foul (a bogus call by pretty much every account) on Jamarcus Russel with just over two minutes left gave a struggling Raiders' offense new life. On that go ahead scoring drive for the Raiders, they would commit three penalties themselves but Gilberry's late hit call was on 1st on 15 and gave the Raiders the ball at the Chiefs' 48-yard line.
- On the Chiefs' final drive of the game, Cassel was sacked on 3rd and 1, pretty much ending any hopes for a win.
- The Chiefs were tackled three times behind the line of scrimmage running the ball. The first TFL created a 3rd and 15, killing that drive. Might as well have been a drive killing sack.
And these points bring me to my cliched "keys to the game:"
- Win the turnover battle. It was huge against the Raiders in the first meeting and will probably be huge again.
- Minimize the penalties. Even though Wallace Gilberry's late hit call was BS, the Chiefs still had seven penalties for 70 yards. Jamarcus Russell's career is still alive because of free yards like that.
- Eliminate those periods in the game where two good minutes by an opposing offense or a couple of big plays make the difference in the game. The Raiders played terribly except for their final scoring drive of 78-yards. They can't do much consistently on offense so they'll live and die by the big plays we give up.
We really should win this game today Chiefs fans. If I'm looking at Todd Haley right now I'm telling him....You better win today.
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Damn straight we better win
my god damn soul is on the line!
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What happens with Todd Haley if they don't win today?
Even though its his first year coaching, does Pioli have to seriously consider replacing him if he gets swept by the Raiders?
I think so.
I think so too...
But, Pioli will fire everyone except Haley imo.
No one ever says, "It's only a game" when their team is winning.
George Carlin-R.I.P.
by idahochieffan on Nov 15, 2009 10:12 AM CST up reply actions
Most likely
Because his reputation is now tied to Haleys. If he fires Haley after one year, he is admitting his first move as a GM was a blunder and that everything is not going according to plan at all.
Exactly...
I would expect firings Monday if we loose this one. Good practices don’t go very far if you don’t win.
No one ever says, "It's only a game" when their team is winning.
George Carlin-R.I.P.
by idahochieffan on Nov 15, 2009 10:24 AM CST up reply actions
lose?
No one ever says, "It's only a game" when their team is winning.
George Carlin-R.I.P.
by idahochieffan on Nov 15, 2009 10:25 AM CST up reply actions
Pioli is only negatively tired to Haley if he keeps him for more than a year and continues to lose
Going to be an interesting off season regardless
Take a look at this great list of FAs in 2010:
http://www.footballsfuture.com/2010/fa/wr.html
I can see Pioli going after currents Patriots turned FAs next year: Vince Wilfork and Logan Mankins. Carlos Dansby for Haley would be a great pickup too. Wilfork + Dansby + Eric Berry (1st pick) = the end of our run defense problems
I don't want no Yo-Yos
by CaptainPoopDeck on Nov 15, 2009 11:07 AM CST up reply actions
Free agent lists are absolutely meaningless
It happens every year.
You see these great players on the list that almost always resign with their team or get franchised. But later people are still wondering why we didn’t sign them.
Great players very rarely ever make it to free agency.
True
Still lots of teams out there with lots of top flight players they all need to sign this year. A few will slip through the cracks this year the hardest part will be for Pioli to convince them to actually come to KC
I don't want no Yo-Yos
by CaptainPoopDeck on Nov 15, 2009 11:19 AM CST up reply actions
Im not so sure...
If coaches like Cower,Shanahan,Holmgren, come available, I think he has to be man enough to at least look into them…..MY thoughts are that they are going to stick with him just because they have to stick with “The Plan”…But one thing is for sure, many of the coordinators and assistants are gone…Maybe Crennel on the D, he has ties with Pioli in NE…
I see no possibility whatsoever of getting Cowher, Shanahan or Holmgren with Pioli here
Pioli came here to run his own show. He’s not going to bring someone in that will take some of his power away from him.
Good point....
But you never know…..one of them might be looking for a job with less responsibilities. And really, none of them could claim to be better at evaluating talent than Pioli…cept maybe Cower, and I dont think he is going to coach again anyway.
If Pioli and Cowher could work together like Carl and Marty did when they were successful
Keep Haley on as OC and set up his own staff and let Cower bring in his guys on Defense……
by mcclanahanman on Nov 15, 2009 10:45 AM CST up reply actions
Pioli left a perfect situation in New England to go out on his own
There is no way in Hell he is going to team up with a lesser coach (and yes, I believe Cowher is a lesser coach than Bellichick) on a worse team and do the same thing when he could have just stayed with New England.
I think we are going to continue to see either coaches we are unfamiliar with (as we were with Haley) so Pioli gets credit for discovering them or coaches that have failed elsewhere so Pioli gets credit with building the team.
Wouldn’t make sense for Pioli to leave the ideal situation in New England where he already had success to come to KC and do the same thing with a crappy team and a less capable coach.
well he dont have any problem hanging onto Belichicks coat tails
everytime NE cuts someone they end up on our team….
We should win...
Some how if Haley can get them to play in the1st quarter, like we’re in the 4th, down by 2 scores we should be able to beat them. And RUN the fuckin’ ball!!!
No one ever says, "It's only a game" when their team is winning.
George Carlin-R.I.P.
Yeah the refusal to run the ball against Jacksonville is almost unforgiveable
He was trying to say that the score of the game dictated they pass, but thats BS. They hardly ran at all in the 1st half.
Hey whats up DJ?
Not real sure on the HC at this point, I support Todd, hope he does well here, but things are not looking good for him at this point. If we get swept by the Raiders, it might be time to start looking elsewhere. I am guessing that Pioli will not let Haley go though, I think he would make him take on an oc, and qb coach though.
Good move by the Chiefs org, glad to see LJ gone.
Long time no see Eric!
I agree with your thoughts.
I think Haley gets another year no matter what (though it might be hard to convince the players that they are going to be judged on their performance alone when the head coach gets another year after going 1-15 or 3-13).
But I agree, Pioli will need to step in and force him o spread out responsibilities. Although you wonder if it is not the pressure he is getting from Pioli that made him feel the need to take those responsibilities on in the first place.
Oh, and I also think we get a new DC.
I think part of the plan all along has been Crennel, he just took a year off to recover.
Good move by the Chiefs org, glad to see LJ gone.
so 3 Defensive cordinators in 3 years would also mean hampering the progress of all our young defensemen
You got to do what you got to do though
I don't want no Yo-Yos
by CaptainPoopDeck on Nov 15, 2009 11:16 AM CST up reply actions
I know what you're saying and I feel the same way
How can these guys come together if we keep changing things up on them?
Something that definately has to be considered, but we have real talent on this defense. We need to get someone in there that knows how to use it.
Yep question marks around Krumrie still linger.
Good move by the Chiefs org, glad to see LJ gone.
I've noticed that...
When our D is walking to the sidelines, he is yelling and what-not and the players just keep walking-not a good sign for him.
No one ever says, "It's only a game" when their team is winning.
George Carlin-R.I.P.
by idahochieffan on Nov 15, 2009 11:25 AM CST up reply actions
No question in my mind
He should have been replaced two years ago. There is absolutely no excuse for the D-line play with all the talent we have on it.
Yep, the first Raiders
game would have been a win if it weren’t for the prevent you to win defense at the end of the game.
Good move by the Chiefs org, glad to see LJ gone.
Here is a question
Does Parcells end up here in some sort of roll in the next year or two?
Good move by the Chiefs org, glad to see LJ gone.
No.
Same reason Cowher, Shanahan, etc. will never come here.
This is Pioli’s show. He will get help / advice from Bellichick and Parcells, but I don’t think you’ll ever see a big name guy come over to steal Pioli’s thunder.
What if it is as HC?!
Good move by the Chiefs org, glad to see LJ gone.
I'm not saying I wouldn't like it
Just that I don’t think it’ll ever happen.
Parcells is getting pretty old too. I don’t think he wants to run the sidelines anymore.
Yeah, I hear ya
just keep thinking of the Thanksgiving day conversations at the Pioli house. SP: Hey pops wouldn’t it be cool to build a team, and win the SB together? BP: Yeah that would be story for our family for generations to come.
Good move by the Chiefs org, glad to see LJ gone.
we should win but we most likely won't
we said we should win last time we played and we all know what happened so don’t be surprised if/when we lose
I'll be surprised and pissed off!!
If we lose, some heads had better roll.
No one ever says, "It's only a game" when their team is winning.
George Carlin-R.I.P.
by idahochieffan on Nov 15, 2009 10:42 AM CST up reply actions
Suprised!!!! Really???
Certainly not out of the question that the Chiefs will lose this game. You forget we’re the new Raiders. We’ve been finding ways to lose games late for awhile now
I don't want no Yo-Yos
by CaptainPoopDeck on Nov 15, 2009 11:09 AM CST up reply actions
Is it just me
or is Raider Week really a thing of the past at One Arrowhead Drive?
I miss Marty.
Cassel vs. Thigpen in Camp should improve the play of both.
Linebackers: looking better
D-lineL slight improvement
O-line: WTF?!?
by Bleedingredandgold on Nov 15, 2009 10:40 AM CST reply actions
no question about - we DO look good on paper!
unfortunately, the game is played on grass …
not that we won’t win … ummmmmmm … not that we don’t have the better team and SHOULD win … ummmmmmmmmm … not that it won’t be a great game and we’ll PROBABLY win …
… hey, if nothing else, remember: we look GREAT on paper … this week

Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisiton!
I dont think Haley..
is satisfied with loooong sustained drives. He tries to run this offense with the same mentality as he did in AZ. They scored fast with the passing game and did very little running. That is much easier to do when you have Warner,Fitz, Boldin, and Breaston…scoring so fast cost them the Super Bowl and left too much time on the clock for Clancys D to get shredded by Big Ben.
In All Seriousness
I don’t think there’s any reason why we shouldn’t win this game today. None. The Raiders are in terrible shape, their coach is on the verge of getting fired and we showed the ability to outplay them the last time we met up.
If Haley can’t win today, by a lot, Haley doesn’t deserve to be a head coach in the NFL. So yes, I believe there is an excellent chance I lose this bet and I pick the Chiefs to win in any case.
Moderator - Arrowhead Pride
Predictions for 2009
Fire Haley now.
Save UCrawford's soul as a Chiefs fan...or lose your own. Take the bet.
http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2009/11/9/1123799/the-driver-of-the-fire-haley
I sort of agreed.
But when I hold this opinion, I get warned. Weak.

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