A Couple Prospects in Action
The Chiefs have alot of Holes to fill this off season. Im not gonna give you a mock draft instead I'm going to let you know of a couple guys I watched through out their collegiate career that I think would fit what were doing.
Ndamukong Suh- This guy is as athletic as a LB at 300 6'4. In 2008, He returned 2 ints for TDs. Crick, Who plays next to him, has 9 sacks. It takes 3 people to block him period. He can play NT as well. We don't need to trade Dorsey, Draft Suh and play him inside. He will beat Double teams which is what we need. Last week at OU Suh was block by the G and The C, and the RB had to come in and help because he was beating them. He is the most dominate player in the nation. I hope the Chiefs don't have a chance to draft him, They would have too have the 1st pick.
Honors and Awards
· 2009 All-America Candidate
· 2009 Lombardi Award, Outland Trophy and Nagurski Award Candidate
· 2009 Lott Trophy Watch List
· 2008 First-Team All-Big 12 (Associated Press, Dallas Morning News, Kansas City Star, San Antonio News-Express)
· 2008 Second-Team All-Big 12 (Coaches)
· 2008 Big 12 Defensive Player of the Week (vs. Kansas)
· 2008 Nebraska Defensive MVP
· Nebraska Season Record for Interceptions by a Defensive Tackle (2)
· Nebraska Season Record for Interception Returns for Touchdowns by a Defensive Tackle (2)
· Nebraska Career Record for Interceptions by a Defensive Tackle (3)
· 2006 First-Team Freshman All-Big 12 (Sporting News)
· Big 12 Commissioner’s Spring Academic Honor Roll (2009)
Eric Berry- What can I say that already hasn't been said? He is a man beast at 5'11 203. QBs don't test him, They throw away from him. He is 8 yards short of the All-Time NCAA Interception return yds. He can cover the run effectively, and cancels out one side of the field in pass coverage. The Chiefs haven't had a play-maker like Berry since they lost Jared Allen. Some say he is a "The safest pick" but he has a tendency to be to aggressive and not wrap up. He is a home run hitter but sometimes misses the play because he goes all or nothing. His transition to the NFL might depend on the coaching staff and team that takes him. The Chiefs would have to pick pretty early to get Berry, He will probably go in the 3-5 range.
C.J. Spiller- He is an all-around play-maker, He does it all. He catches passes out of the back field, Returns Punts, and Runs between the Tackle. I believe he would automatically be the most explosive player on our team. He could fall to the early 2nd, but I doubt it. I believe the Chiefs would have to move up or down to the bottom 1st to get Spiller. He plays on a bad team, bad o line, and still seems to be able to put up numbers. Only a few players in the NCAA have an 85 yards run for a TD, 85 yard reception for a TD, and an 85 yards return for a TD. He doesn't have the accomplishments that Berry and Suh have but he is a finalist for the Doak Walker award this year. I would love to see Spiller in a Chiefs Uni.
Eric Norwood-He is a DE converted to an OLB. He is only 6'2 252, but he is an effective pass rusher and run stopper. One reason I love Norwood is his pass defense. Any DE we draft to convert to OLB will not have the same coverage skills as Norwood. HE is compared to Joey Porter, He holds the South Carolina all time record for sacks and tackles for loss. He recorded 9 sacks last year, and 75 tackles.
Jerry Hughes- DE for undefeated TCU. At 6'3 257, He is stout enough to stuff the run but agile enough to rush the passer. To say he is a solid pass rusher is an understatement. This guy lives in the back field. Hughes recorded 14 sacks, 18.5 tackles for a loss, 6 forced fumbles, 2 interceptions in 2008. His 14 sacks was enough to lead the NCAA div 1. Some question his Level of Competition but even when he does play MAC or WAC teams they double and triple him. He gets Chipped all day. Alot of scouts project him as a 3-4 rush LB. The Chiefs wouldnt go wrong with him.
Rolando McClain-ILB from Alabama, 6'4 258. This kid does it all, He is a tackling machine. The reason he doesnt miss tackles is a mix of his power and mechanics. He is a perfect form tackler. The best thing about McClain is the intangibles. He is describes as a leader who wants to win. Its not unusual for him to yell at his teammates to make sure they are on their job. Alot of people compare him to Brian Urlacher. He had 95 tackles, 3 sacks, and 1 int. He would be a starter on this team for at least 6 years. He is the best ILB to come out this year. Alot of people think Brandon Spikes is better, but I have to disagree. Spikes is a 2 down LB, McClain is an every down LB.
I know, No OL. Im gonna get to the OL soon. Will do a different post strictly for offensive Linemen. I hope this gives some of you a little insight on some people that would help the Chiefs. Let me know what you think. Thank You for reading my post.
This is a FanPost and does not necessarily reflect the views of Arrowhead Pride's writers or editors. It does reflect the views of this particular fan though, which is as important as the views of Arrowhead Pride writers or editors.
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Watched KU put C/G on Suh all day 3 or 4 tackles.
Now I think that is what a NT is all about. If you have 2 O-lineman blocking one guy.
that leaves the rest of the D 1+. Team Suh with Jackson and Dorsey with Hali and another say Gilberry and that line will overwhelm the O!
We Will kick at least 4 Teams Asses in 09
And Succop will be the Key in two of them.
" Think and talk positive football off the field." Hank Stram
by Steve_Chiefs on Nov 14, 2009 9:38 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Thats what Ive been saying
There is no doubt in my mind he is the pick if were selecting number 1
Also, Steve did you see the last TD pass by Reesing to Briscoe? Suh had the G and C on him, and the RB still had to come help out. Also, He is only about 15 pounds under what NT usaully weigh and he could gain 10 pounds and be fine.
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by darwithabar on Nov 14, 2009 11:23 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I would love Suh as the middle DT/NT
hell we got some guy that hasn’t played in years in there now.
It all depends on who is there when we pick :)
We Will kick at least 4 Teams Asses in 09
And Succop will be the Key in two of them.
" Think and talk positive football off the field." Hank Stram
by Steve_Chiefs on Nov 14, 2009 11:32 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Your right
But if he is on the board when we pick, Suh is a Chief. He is just to good for Pioli to pass up and Pioli loves his DL. He is gonna try to build the Chiefs just like he built the Pats.
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by darwithabar on Nov 14, 2009 11:38 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Amen
We Will kick at least 4 Teams Asses in 09
And Succop will be the Key in two of them.
" Think and talk positive football off the field." Hank Stram
by Steve_Chiefs on Nov 14, 2009 11:49 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Another tidbit thats intresting
Anytime Pioli has drafted in the top 15, He has drafted a Defensive Linemen.
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by darwithabar on Nov 15, 2009 12:17 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
We might have bigger needs
But the idea of putting Suh in between Dorsey and Jackson causes me to drool. That would give us one of the top lines in the NFL. And like they said when they took Magee…guys that size that can move like that just don’t grow on trees, so you have to take them if you have the opportunity.
Chiefs go 9-7. LJ makes 1400 yards. DBowe makes 1200 yards. Defense #18.
10/28--The Koolaid buzz is beginning to wear off. Maybe drop this back to my original thoughts on the year. Chiefs go 6-10 (and that my be optimistic!). LJ gets a restraining order to stay 1400 yards away from the Chiefs. I'll let the rest stand for now.
by Zodeman on Nov 15, 2009 6:27 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree
I dont see it as a coicendence that Pioli watched the Mizzou Nebraska game himself instead of sending a scout.
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by darwithabar on Nov 15, 2009 11:57 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
While I'd prefer Berry
I do think at this point that given the chance, Pioli would probably take Suh first.
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by Buck'O on Nov 15, 2009 8:24 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I would be happy with Berry as well
But Suh is the way better player.
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by darwithabar on Nov 15, 2009 8:54 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I wouldn't say that ;)
but what the GM wants, the GM gets
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by Buck'O on Nov 15, 2009 8:57 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I would
Berry is very good, but it is no question when I watch the too. Berry will be a great pro, Suh will be a force from day 1.
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by darwithabar on Nov 15, 2009 9:07 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
My problem with Suh
is that we need a true beast of a NT. He seems like a much better 4-3 DT than a 3-4 NT. In our world, he’s be another reach.
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by Buck'O on Nov 15, 2009 9:11 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
A Reach?
How? He is the best rated player. Also, I hate to be like this but I have to call BS. What makes him not a true NT? You would have to give a reason for me to even start to consider what your saying. Does he Demand Double Teams? Check. Does he have the Height? Check. Does he weigh enough? Check. Is he strong enough? Check. I dont understand whats up and Why people dont think he can play NT. Jason Ferguson is 6’3 310, Suh is 6’4 300 at he college weight. He could gain 10 pounds easily and still be the fastest NT in the league.
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by darwithabar on Nov 16, 2009 12:53 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I also Beleive Dorsey could play NT if we had 2 dominate DE
If Jackson and Suh were on the ends, I beleive could play NT but he wouldnt be as efffective as Suh would be. Dorsey is 6’1, same height as Wilfork. Dorsey would have to gain about 1-15 pounds but he could do it.
All the other entangibles have to be coached, period. Some guys dont fit some schemes but that isnt the case with these 2. They both would have to be double teamed, Suh more often. That is what counts.
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by darwithabar on Nov 16, 2009 1:06 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
No way Dorsye could be effective at NT
For that, he IS to small.
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by Buck'O on Nov 16, 2009 9:58 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
What are you talking about man
Dorsey 6’1-Wilfork 6’1
Dorsey 300- Wilfork 320
True Dorsey would have to gain like 10 pounds because most NT are around 310-320 including one of the best Ferguson 310. Dorsey is would be strong enough if he put on the weight. The intangibles have to be Coached. Dorsey could play NT, I never said he would be an all star but he could probably do just as good as Ron Edwards.
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by darwithabar on Nov 16, 2009 11:25 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Ferguson
Ferguson is 310, Not Wilfork 320 sorry, Wilfork did weigh 320 when he came into the league I think he weighs alot more then that now, but his an exception. Most NT dont weigh 340 pounds.
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by darwithabar on Nov 16, 2009 11:30 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Dorsey not having the natural weight is one factor
but his natural abilities center around his quickness and athletacism and his ability to shoot through the gap and get into the backfield. We don’t use him that way in a 3-4 front. While he’s a good enough and strong enough athlete to be solid as a 3-4 end, we’re really missing the boat on his natural talents by not running a 4-3 front. Putting him in at NT would be even more of a stretch. I see the same kind of thing happening with Suh if we draft him. You wanna draft a badass NT, look at Terrence Cody at Alabama. He’s a natural and a much better fit in my opinion.
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by Buck'O on Nov 16, 2009 1:36 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Besides,
asking Dorsey to put on the weight might shorten his career given his history with his legs.
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by Buck'O on Nov 16, 2009 1:37 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree about Dorsey to an extent
But Suh is a different Story, Also, Cody is not a bad ass. He weighs way more then Suh, Suh is way stronger and would only gain strentgh by adding weight. You will see when Pioli drafts him. You still are just saying"Suh cant play NT" your not providing any facts or anything to back it up. Thats all I want, a couple facts. Wilfork isnt playing at his natural weight, Ferguson isnt playing at his natural weight. Hampton isnt playing at his natural weight. Suh would immediatly become one of the best NTs in the NFL.
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by darwithabar on Nov 16, 2009 2:45 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Also
Cody has weight problems and lack Talent. Cody is a 2nd round talent, He will go in the 1st due to his size and teams needing NTs like Denver and San Diego.
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by darwithabar on Nov 16, 2009 2:47 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree
Cody is probably better suited for the 2nd round. My draft preference is to go after Eric Berry and then address line positions. If Cody is there when we pick in the 2nd then great. If not, there may be other prospects. God knows the Chiefs have needs.
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by Buck'O on Nov 16, 2009 3:21 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
good post by the way!
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by Buck'O on Nov 16, 2009 3:23 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
There doesn't have to be any facts
It’s a blog and this is a productive conversation.. Your arguments are sound and mine have merit as well so it’s all good. There’s no winning this debate because it’s opinion against opinion. The point is that it’s a good conversation
My opinion is that Cody is a natural fit for the NT mold and Suh isn’t. We’ve experimented with linemen on both sides of the ball at different slots and I’ve yet to see one pay off big. Niswanger is a more natural guard but he’s playing center. Ndukwe is a more natural guard but he’s playing tackle. Dorsey is a more natural 4-3 DT but he’s playing 3-4 end. Not everything is a complete failure, but we’re not getting the kind of production we need because we’re still forcing a square peg in a round hole so to speak.
There’s no question that Suh is a big freakin’ stud and yeah, he could probably play NT. I just don’t see him as a natural fit. He’s another guy who will command a high draft pick and a massive salary and I don’t think we can afford any more experiments.
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by Buck'O on Nov 16, 2009 3:19 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Your Right
I wasnt look for winning the debate either. My bad, Sometimes I come off harsch but dont mean too. I agree with most of your points but if were drafting 1 we have to take Suh. He is the best player by far. If we graded them 1-100 he would be a 98 and Berry would be a 90. I would love if the Chiefs got Berry but Suh is just too good to pass up. He is the type of player you could draft and trade.
As for this post, Im working on an OL post.
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by darwithabar on Nov 16, 2009 5:04 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
He's a reach because he projects better as a 3-4 End
We don’t need another 3-4 end. We need an NT. A true blue dyed-in-the-wool NT. Not another guy who is great but is not playing his natural position. We’d waste him IMO
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by Buck'O on Nov 16, 2009 9:57 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
so
then we can run a 5-3? i doubt it. depth is very good and suh is a beast but dline is not the most glaring need on this team. take berry and sleep easy at night
by Hendrix on Nov 15, 2009 1:37 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
A 5-3?
It doesnt exist in the NFL. No he would play NT. Im just offering a bit of Pioli’s draft history. Whether you like it or not, If Suh is there when we pick Pioli will take him. He is known for drafting DL in the 1st round. He takes OL and Secondary in the 2nd and 3rd. He will take Suh. We need a NT to make this D work, more then a Safety.
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by darwithabar on Nov 15, 2009 1:55 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
well iam glad you can see inside Pioli's crystal ball...
but i want to see the super “beast” players he’s drafted step it up, before i think this combination of more d line picks will work…i mean, lets score more than 13 points for a change…
by Sea of RED on Nov 15, 2009 8:55 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Pioli is going to build his DL
When he went to NE he Built his DL first and won a SB, Why would he stray away from that. We have to do this, He knows it.
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by darwithabar on Nov 15, 2009 11:56 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
great post
Dar liked the facts.
Hate Larry Johnson.
by royalsfan99 on Nov 14, 2009 10:27 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Thanks for the info.
Personally I prefer posts like this to the mock drafts anytime.
The more I hear about McClain, the more I think he might be a good choice for the playmaker we need on defense in Berry is off the board.
Feeling "The Love" and "Drinking the Kool AId"
by KCporkchop on Nov 14, 2009 10:30 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I'm really not sure if McClain is going to come out
Plus I would not want to take an ILB with a high first round pick with all of our other holes.
by BAMFSpecialOps on Nov 15, 2009 10:20 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I think he will
and he’d be a Hellova good pick ONLY IF
Okung, Berry, Suh are all off of the board when KC picks
* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season
* Stats are for losers
by stagdsp on Nov 15, 2009 11:36 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
I beleive he will come out, The Chiefs only take him if Suh, Berry, Okung are all off the board
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by darwithabar on Nov 15, 2009 11:58 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Im liking those backs from USC and Perish Cox of OK State
Hate Larry Johnson.
by royalsfan99 on Nov 14, 2009 10:32 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
yes, this is an awesome post
I like these because I don’t watch enough college ball to know who’s who and how good they are.
Air Cassel - approved for takeoff
by kabrink on Nov 14, 2009 10:36 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Well If you guys like this post
Watch for My O line post, Im putting alot into that one because it is such a huge need. Im gonna fill everyone in on guys that may go later so we can already have a heads up on these people.
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by darwithabar on Nov 14, 2009 11:24 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
looking forward to it
OL is the greatest need around here
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by kabrink on Nov 15, 2009 9:43 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Keep up the good work
Nice post
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by Buck'O on Nov 15, 2009 12:04 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Hey...
our corners are not exactly tearing it up this season. Check out this kid from Boise St. His name is Kyle Wilson and I think we can land him in the 3rd round. He would kill two birds with one stone. Provide us depth at corner while also giving us a legitimate punt returner. He is one of the best in the nation in that regard.
by I_Bleed_Red. on Nov 15, 2009 1:51 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
I like Wilson
I will probably do alot of these. Today I just did a couple posistions that we need and guys that are avaliable with our 2 first picks.
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by darwithabar on Nov 15, 2009 1:56 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Add first person to throw for, Run for, and Catch a TD
In the same game. He is a beast.
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by darwithabar on Nov 15, 2009 3:35 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
CJ Spiller
Sorry forgot the name
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by darwithabar on Nov 15, 2009 3:35 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
another prospect
Mount Cody didn’t seem to make much of an impact in the Bama game yesterday…
* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season
* Stats are for losers
by stagdsp on Nov 15, 2009 11:37 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Yeah I dont like him that much
But will see
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by darwithabar on Nov 15, 2009 11:59 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
huh...I guess if you "say" it's not a mock draft it's not then huh?
by krayfish on Nov 15, 2009 2:01 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
What?
Not quite sure I understand. Are you saying that im posting a “covert” Mock draft. :)
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by darwithabar on Nov 15, 2009 3:03 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The Old
Undercover Mock Draft
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by darwithabar on Nov 15, 2009 3:03 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

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