Chiefs Had Their 'Best Friday Practice' of the Year
by Joel Thorman on Nov 13, 2009 7:33 PM CST
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PrintA couple of times this season, Kansas City Chiefs head coach Todd Haley has said the Chiefs have had their best week of practice. That shows improvement, or approval from the coach, at least on the practice field.
Unfortunately, Haley's comments have always come after a loss trying to explain what went wrong. He was asked about the good week of practice, poor games phenomenon this season.
"Yes, I do," he said when asked if he cringed thinking about it, "but you can’t think any other way. You really can’t. You’ve got to assume that good practices are eventually going to translate into good play. If you think any other way I think you’re asking for trouble. I know that’s how we gauge how a week has gone."
Today, though, Haley said the team had its best Friday practice of the season.
"Probably our best Friday," he said. "It was pretty good. We went indoors to just kind of get that noise level up and the tempo and precision on both sides. I think it was probably our best Friday as a whole."
The noise level comment is interesting considering the Coliseum in Oakland has been blacked out yet again and might not bring over 50,000 to the stadium.
Moving on, Haley was asked why he thought today in particular was the best practice to date.
"Tempo," he began, "guys were into it, enthusiasm, doing what they’re supposed to do, hustling to the ball on defense, doing all the things we’re asking them to do. Guys were sharp. You can tell when guys are into it. They were mentally into the practice."
Will the good week of practice translate into a W on Sunday?
Past history says no but we're facing the Raiders so it's pretty likely it'll still be a game late in the fourth quarter.
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In the theatre, they have a saying...
“Bad dress rehearsal… great show.”
Of course… actors also wish each other good luck by saying, “Break a leg!”
Draw your own conclusions. :-)
John
"Gentlemen! You can't fight in here. This is the War Room!"
sure as hell couldn't play any worse
UCrawford will eventually calm down and realize that Haley isn't a bad coach.
Will embrace the Fire Haley Bandwagon if we lose to the raiders by more then a TD...
..But we aren't going to lose.
LJ will not land in Pittsburgh
The Chiefs will not be the number one pick in this years draft
The Chiefs first pick of the draft will NOT be a OL
Thinks UCrawford just needs a hug... offer is there when you are ready UC :p
I dunno men....
I got a feeling on this one, not like the feeling of wearing spiked wrist bracelets while jerking off mind you, but I think we are going to have a huge offensive output on the scoreboard this week. And I also think that our D will step up and shut the Raiders down. I like the 34-13 score someone else predicted.
Winning begins with Attitude - Haley and Pioli will be winners in KC!
I'll forever be a Chiefs fan! Only God himself could take that away from me, but when I get to my great reward, I'll rejoin two bigger fans, my Mom and Dad.
by Lanier63 on Nov 13, 2009 7:57 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
I AGREE
I have this feeling like we are really going to pound the Raiders this week. We really owe them one after that horrible loss earlier this year…
I'd give just about anything for that to be true
We need one of those. Sorta like last year when we just blew Denver out of the water. We need one of those just to show everyone that it can be done.
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I hope you're right Lanier
I had to pick up Cassel in my “important” fantasy league to cover for Shaub.
All losses in the 2009 season will be Herm and Carls fault.
Last time I heard this
I went to the game in KC against the Chargers and we got smashed. Ew. I’ll believe it when I see it.
by ChiefsFanInTexas on Nov 13, 2009 8:12 PM CST reply actions
Not only did we get smashed...
It was the worst defeat at the hands of the Chargers. Ever! But sooner or later, good practices will translate into good games. Right?
John
"Gentlemen! You can't fight in here. This is the War Room!"
How often are we going to hear this?
I mean really. Does anyone care if they practice well when we’ve won a whopping one game?
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Seriously Coach
it’s one thing to think that way, but to the paying fans, do you really have to say anything?
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How about posting UC's bandwagon post in the locker room for motivation instead
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It Couldn't Hurt
When Blackbeard the pirate used to board ships using dinghys, legend has it that he put a hole in the boat so his men were motivated to fight harder and win (since they had no ship to go back to).
Personally, I can’t help but wonder if Todd Haley would be making smarter decisions if he was sweating about losing his job each week.
Moderator - Arrowhead Pride
Predictions for 2009
Fire Haley now.
Save UCrawford's soul as a Chiefs fan...or lose your own. Take the bet.
http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2009/11/9/1123799/the-driver-of-the-fire-haley
Distant Cousins, Probably
Speaking of Orton, how much better is that trade looking for Denver now after watching Cutler completely screw up Chicago’s comeback on Thursday? There’s no comparison between the two for physical tools, Cutler has the edge, but Orton may just be his equal as a QB, plus Denver got two first rounders and a third to boot.
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Predictions for 2009
Fire Haley now.
Save UCrawford's soul as a Chiefs fan...or lose your own. Take the bet.
http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2009/11/9/1123799/the-driver-of-the-fire-haley
Damn Donkeys
I think the Bears are in serious trouble. They can’t run the ball, Cutler is a mess, and their D is old and falling apart. Add to that the fact that they traded away two first rounders and they’ll struggle for years.
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The Broncos won that trade.
Regardless, I’m not convinced it was about talent at all. Nor are most analysts, for that matter. The undercurrent is that Big Baby Cutler, Tha Diabeetus, is the antithesis of the Tom Brady mold. Whiny, complainey, pouty, and gun-slingy.
Orton, at minimum, is tractable and is a decent holdover while Denver got incredible compensation.
Still, BOLD, BOLD move. I think in six years’ time, the winner of the Cassel trade vs. the Cutler trade will still control the division.
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by Justin Bopp on Nov 14, 2009 12:04 AM CST up reply actions
It sure looks like it.
And whether it’s Cutler’s fault or not, Chicago’s looking at some tough years ahead with a crap o-line and an aging defense. And Cutler’s price tag WILL cut into the rebuilding process. Some players just see the short-term and put themselves in situations that will cause them misery, and Cutler’s in for some misery in Chicago before all’s said and done.
It’s just especially tasty to see him be a part of the problem.
Interesting that Denver went with the back 7 for some instant payoff, but their neglect of the front 3 or 4 may ruin the 2nd half of their season, whereas (Dare I hope?) KC’s attention to the front 3 or 4 may see them starting to surge down the stretch.
They gotta surge at some point. Don’t they?
Don’t they?
ANSWER ME, DAMMIT!!!
(breathing into paper bag)
Now, what were we talking about?
No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.
and Denver will draft a QB soon
this or next year to replace Orton
Air Cassel - approved for takeoff
Well yeah, Why the hell not?
After all, his primary motivation for his players appears to be fear. Seems to me the standard should apply to his job too.
That and I’m mentally and emotionally preparing myself for the very real possibility of bandwagon membership. :)
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Don't Go Buying Your Card Yet
It is the Raiders after all…all factors considered, odds of a win for the Chiefs are about even.
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Predictions for 2009
Fire Haley now.
Save UCrawford's soul as a Chiefs fan...or lose your own. Take the bet.
http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2009/11/9/1123799/the-driver-of-the-fire-haley
I'm not really
It’s just frustrating to see the coach talking about how great practice was… again… in anticipation of a game between two of the worst teams in the league. I’m still hoping to see some of that improvement show up on the field on a sunday so we no longer have to take the coach’s word for how great they looked on a friday.
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As Much As I Dislike Haley
It is important not to fall into the trap of railing that the sky is green just because Haley says it’s blue. I mean, maybe the team did have a good practice. Or maybe he was just looking for something positive to say for a mandatory Friday presser. Either way it’s a pretty benign observation…nothing to really get worked up about.
You should do what I do in situations like that. Boot up a little Madden 10, build an awesome Chiefs team and beat the crap out of some opponents. :)
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Predictions for 2009
Fire Haley now.
Save UCrawford's soul as a Chiefs fan...or lose your own. Take the bet.
http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2009/11/9/1123799/the-driver-of-the-fire-haley
check out my reply to Druful below
it’s not a reason to turn on the man but it’s somewhat revealing
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Practice?
Practice? Y’all want talk about practice? I mean…practice? C’mon. Practice?
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by KansasCityShuffle on Nov 13, 2009 8:40 PM CST reply actions 2 recs
So...umm...yeah.
“Best Friday practice” of the year on Friday the 13th. After all the other “best practices,” that does not bode well, Mr. Haley.
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Shouldn't they all be good practices?
They are practicing against the Chiefs, right?
I wonder if Cleveland and St. Louis have great practices. Hmmm….
I'll take that bet, you're gonna regret, cause Haley's the best that's ever been...
Predicted outcome for the Raidaaa's goes a little something like this:
UCrawford bowed his head because he knew JaMarcus had been beat.
He laid that golden sig line on his profile at Lucas's feet.
Haley said: "UCrawford just come on back if you ever want to try again.
"I told you once, you son of a bitch, I'm the best that's ever been."
They might have it together....
This is really gonna be the test of tales….These young players have got to show up or the kool-aid will be spilt as far as iam concerned. No way we get swept by the raiders…lol
Man, we need to win this game
I don’t see us having a chance against Pittsburgh or at San Diego and the odds of beating Denver even at home aren’t good. If we have four more losses in a row I think Chiefs nation will go into nuclear meltdown.
Feeling "The Love" and "Drinking the Kool AId"
It's funny
To me, Denver seems like the most likely win out of them, SD, and Pitt. Not that I’m predicting a win, just that I still think they are overrated.
Air Cassel - approved for takeoff
WTF?
I’m tired of this shit. DJ supposedly has shitty practices, but he makes great plays when we use him in games.
So WTF is wrong with Haley?
Doesn’t he realize that there is a real difference between practice and gameday. If having a good practice actually meant anything, Jeff George would have been a first ballot hall-of-famer. Of course, he still is a first ballot hall-of-famer according to Whitlock.
If you practice like you play,
then a good practice means a good game. If you can’t practice like you play, how’s anyone to know if you’re going to get it done on the field in a game? That’s how it is with true professionals.
No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.
What is the matter with all of you?
People are actually bitching because the guy said they had a good practice? For fucks sake. I know a lot of people don’t like Haley but pick him apart for actual reasons don’t just bitch about every last word he says. It’s freaking annoying.
Complain about his play calling or something. Complain that the players go out and pay like a bunch of assholes.
TH\hey had a good practice. That is good news.
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by Patrick Allen on Nov 13, 2009 10:04 PM CST reply actions 8 recs
Agreed and also Rec'd.
Of course, the state of the ArrowHeads (that’s us) is a cycle, right now we’re in the “everything sucks until proved otherwise.” If and when we have some success, it will be just the opposite where no move can go wrong.
I think we should evaluate fairly. I don’t think him saying that we had a good practice is something to be insulted by/worried about/made fun of. Some of his rookie head coach stuff is a little more debatable, but that’s not what this is.
If anything, it’s probably just a tiny nudge of inspiration during the one week we have a chance.
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by Justin Bopp on Nov 14, 2009 12:15 AM CST up reply actions
Agreed
Although not as harshly as you said it. :)
Much as I dislike Haley, what do you really expect him to say? “Man, that practice was complete shit and we’ve got no chance on Sunday.”? “The Raiders are going to stomp us good.”? Haley was just dumping out standard coach-speak.
Frankly, I don’t really care what the man thinks of his Friday practice. All I care about is what he produces on Sunday.
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Predictions for 2009
Fire Haley now.
Save UCrawford's soul as a Chiefs fan...or lose your own. Take the bet.
http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2009/11/9/1123799/the-driver-of-the-fire-haley
There are plenty of valid arguments against Haley
but the bashing him over every little thing is annoying. They probably did have a good practice. I still think they have a very good chance of playing like crap. I don’t think he is lying. I am glad they are still working hard. I hope it pays off for them. I hope he calls a good game and doesn’t screw it up for them. But I have no problem with him saying they practiced well.
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by Patrick Allen on Nov 13, 2009 10:15 PM CST up reply actions
come on
Pollard missed tackles and blew coverage IN GAMES. DJ has a reputaion for disappearing for not just plays but quarters at a time (IN GAMES) ever since he arrived in KC. Bowe consistantly dropped balls IN GAMES. Bradley ran bad routes IN GAMES. The list goes on and on. What do you want him to do? Let guys be lazy turds in practice and then still play them in games if they have the talent to make plays? If one of your favorite players is in Haley’s doghouse then why not be pissed that the player wasn’t doing his job as opposed to being pissed at Haley for holding them accountable?
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by KCporkchop on Nov 13, 2009 10:42 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
Agreed.
It’s pretty clear that we’re going through the growing pains of a new culture on our team. When this is fully established, the best practicing guys will also be the best performing guys.
I think the people holding up DJ and Pollard as examples of where Haley has gone wrong are just fooling themselves.
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by Justin Bopp on Nov 14, 2009 12:37 AM CST up reply actions
Criticism of play calling happens this sunday
we’re merely settling into the pattern that is of his own making.
I’d rather he didn’t say the same thing again. I’d prefer he just left it alone and didn’t comment on practice.
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The guy has to do a daily press conference after practice
what’s he suppose to talk about, what he ate for lunch?
Feeling "The Love" and "Drinking the Kool AId"
He can talk about anything he wants to
but he’s already talked about how great his team looked in practice numerous times this year in practice and they go out on Sunday and drop a turd. If it was you, would you continue the same pattern? I know I’d do my best to refrain from repeating it. It’d be pretty simple to do actually.
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You aren't giving a presser
every other day with the same inane questions from the KC sports media either.
We already know that Haley was thrilled when he found out he didn’t have to do injury reports with his pressers. I’m pretty sure if he could completely avoid press conferences during the week he would.
So blame the media for asking the same boring, repetitive questions rather then Haley for giving the same coach speak answers to said questions.
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Why would I do that?
I’m not even trying to make an earth-shattering point and it’s not even a big deal to me but I’m not gonna blame anyone else for the things the coach says. I’m floored at how many want to give the man a pass for repeating what is probably the simplest and most correctable of behavior patterns, and one that’s only indirectly related to football. It says a lot when the coach admits that his own repeated statements, having proven himself wrong make him cringe to think about as he goes and does it again. He needs to learn how to adapt, change, evolve… How does this translate to the job he’s doing as coach?
There is a definition of insanity that describes repeating the same act over and over even though it results in the same failure each time. I get that you learn through repetition but there is a difference here.
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Why would I do that?
I’m not even trying to make an earth-shattering point and it’s not even a big deal to me but I’m not gonna blame anyone else for the things the coach says. I’m floored at how many want to give the man a pass for repeating what is probably the simplest and most correctable of behavior patterns, and one that’s only indirectly related to football. It says a lot when the coach admits that his own repeated statements, having proven himself wrong make him cringe to think about as he goes and does it again. He needs to learn how to adapt, change, evolve… How does this translate to the job he’s doing as coach?
There is a definition of insanity that describes repeating the same act over and over even though it results in the same failure each time. I get that you learn through repetition but there is a difference here.
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all bullshit aside
how hard is it not to make the same basic statement that has people criticizing you for?
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Tell you what, Druful
You try it sometime, and see how easy it is to come up with a question to ask every day that isn’t “boring and repetitive.”
All NFL coaches – not just Haley – don’t want to talk about certain things. They won’t tell how how they’re going to game-plan an opponent. They’re not going to tell you that player X on their roster isn’t ever going to get another snap, or that player Y on the upcoming opponent’s roster has a target painted on their back for Sunday’s game. They’re not going to throw their assistant coaches under the bus – although I’m sure there are many times they’d like to do exactly that.
In Haley’s specific instance, he doesn’t want to talk about injuries – which is his prerogative. Edwards, if you’ll recall, did the same thing – albeit in a somewhat different way.
Finally… a reporter can’t risk alienating the coach or the PR department. In the post-Watergate era, that may sound ridiculous. But NFL coaches aren’t public officials. Access to them is controlled, and these men and women can’t do their jobs without that access.
So it doesn’t leave much to ask about… yet fans want as much information as the media can get. So what you get is a lot of inane, boring, repetitive questions. That’s just the way it is.
John
"Gentlemen! You can't fight in here. This is the War Room!"
I agree with that 100%
And there is a danger of everyone becoming a little robotic when the same people converge in the same room and discuss the same topic day after day. It’s not really news worthy after awhile. Go figure we have otherwise meaningless discussions about comments like “we had our best day of practice.”
Sorry you have a problem with it Paddy, but I gotsta be that kinda guy
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These would be my questions for him
Do you miss Larry?
Do you yell at your wife and kids like you do your players?
Does it piss you off that pollard gets 12 tackles and 2 picks which was way better production than your entire secondary on that same game day?
Do you sometimes wonder if it wouldn’t be better to let cassel call his own plays?
Will you climb on the “Fire Todd Haley” Bandwagon if the chiefs don’t beat the raiders by a touchdown?
All losses in the 2009 season will be Herm and Carls fault.
Do you miss Larry?
Probable answer:
“I’ve already said that I don’t have any comment about anybody who isn’t a Chief.”
Right answer:
“Larry who?”
Do you yell at your wife and kids like you do your players?
Probable answer:
“I don’t think that’s an appropriate question.”
Right answer:
“No. They already know what I expect of them.”
Does it piss you off that pollard gets 12 tackles and 2 picks which was way better production than your entire secondary on that same game day?
Probable answer:
“Again… I don’t have any comment about anybody who isn’t a Chief.”
Right answer:
“Bernard who?”
Do you sometimes wonder if it wouldn’t be better to let cassel call his own plays?
Probable answer:
“One of the things I’ve been taught is that the quarterback has too much to do on the field to be thinking about the next play. That’s why we call the plays from the sidelines. If you’re asking me if I wonder if Matt could do a better job than I do… well, I’m the head coach. It falls on me. I have to do a better job. "
Right answer:
“Yes. And after wondering about it, I decided to keep on calling them.”
Will you climb on the "Fire Todd Haley" Bandwagon if the chiefs don’t beat the raiders by a touchdown?
Probable answer:
“Well… like I said, I’m the head coach, and it falls on me. Anything less than a win – especially against a division opponent – is unacceptable. As a staff, we’re working every day to instill that in our players.”
Right answer:
“That’s the stupidest question I’ve ever heard.”
[Turns and whispers to PR Director Bob Moore, then leaves the room]
John
"Gentlemen! You can't fight in here. This is the War Room!"
you're right, Patrick, we should look at the stats instead, because stats are for ...
oh wait, never mind
Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisiton!
best practice? seriously
the last time haley claimed they had their best practice was the week leading up to the San Diego game which ended up being a BLOW OUT!
Great – looks like Raiders are going to have their way with the chiefs again…
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Larry Johnson will be a top 3 fantasy pick once again in 2010 (after a monster season in 2009.)
Dwayne Bowe will be a 2009 Pro Bowl selection.
Brandon Flowers will have at least 6 INTs in 2009 season.
Todd Haley will have a sideline shouting match caught on TV yelling at one of his asst. coaches.
by 58 was my friend on Nov 13, 2009 11:43 PM CST reply actions
Frankly, the Raiders didn't have their way with the Chiefs LAST time.
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by Justin Bopp on Nov 14, 2009 12:38 AM CST up reply actions
that's true, Justin ... but this time Raiders are at home ... and they beat the Eagles since we played them in Game 2
just sayin’
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Work in progress.
Best practice doesn’t mean he sees a championship team out there.
No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.
Of course.
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by Justin Bopp on Nov 14, 2009 12:38 AM CST up reply actions
Honestly....
I dont care what he talks about…he can say whatever he wants…I am glad that he feels they had their best practice…
People are having a hard time calling Chiefs/Raiders because both teams have been equally roller-coastery…Just have to wait and see who shows up…
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But
Haley is still the coach. So what. I think Haley said that before the Jacksonville game.
vajazz24
Yeah he did
And can you say that the D-Line looked better? Did the running game look better? Did the QB get some of the best protection he’s had all year?
I expect Fargas to have a good day against us tomorrow, since he seems to every time we play. But that’s about the only bright spot I see for Oak. Chambers had a great game against them a couple weeks ago, and knows the game plan etc that SD had going into that game.
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