One Mock Draft Thread to Rule Them All
I remember reading over the comments in a recent mock draft fanpost not too long ago where someone suggested something about looking through all the mock drafts posted here on AP and compiling some sort of stat line for it. Well…I did :)
After scanning the fanpost archives of the last 3 months (roughly ~1100 fanposts scanned dating back to the beginning of this year’s season) I found that there weren't as many mock drafts as I thought there'd be. In total there was only 12 complete mock drafts (4 of them done by the same person), 2 mock draft poll threads (for 1st and 2nd round choices), and 5 ‘(insert player name) needs to be the 1st rd. choice posts altogether in roughly the amount of time from the beginning of the season to thus far. With that being said what I looked at all the draft choices presented and complied them into one post to centralize the draft discussion and look and see what the general AP consensus is when it comes to the draft.
Do note that I only did the first 4 rounds of the draft. Rounds 5 and down are what I like to call ‘unknowns’ simply because:
A) We have no idea what we have left below the mid round picks due to trades this off-season and
B) For the most part rounds 5-7 are considered a crap shoot.
C) Everything is a guess in a mock draft but rounds 5-7 that becomes especially so
The AP Draft Mindset:
(updated November 29, 2009)
1st round:
- Eric Berry – S – Tennessee – 8 mock 1s (51 poll votes)
- Russell Okung – OT – Oklahoma State - 3 mock 1s (45 poll votes)
- Ndamukong Suh – DT – Nebraska – 3 mock 1s (11 poll votes)
- Terrence Cody – NT– Alabama – 2 mock 1s
- Rolando McClain - ILB - Alabama - 2 mock 1s
- Dez Bryant – WR – Oklahoma State – 1 mock
(1st) 2nd round:
- Ciron Black – OT – Louisiana State University – 2 mock 2s
- Mike Johnson – OG – Alabama – 1 mock 2 (15 poll votes)
- Jerry Hughes – OLB – Texas Christian University – 1 mock
- Sergio Kindle – DE/OLB – Texas – 1 mock
- Golden Tate - WR/PR - Notre Dame - 1 mock
- Von Miller – OLB – Texas A&M – 1 mock
- Kris O’Dowd – C – University of Southern California – 1 mock
- Brandon Spikes – ILB – Florida – 1 mock
- Arrelious Benn – WR – Illinois – 1 mock
- Ed Dickson – TE – Oregon – 1 mock
- Patrick Robinson - CB - Florida State - 1 mock
- Jonathan Dwyer - RB - Georgia Tech - 1 mock
- Anthony McCoy - TE - USC - 1 mock
- Sam Young – OT – Notre Dame – 0 mock (10 poll votes)
- Josh McNeil – C – Tennessee – 0 mock (10 poll votes)
- Marshwan Gilyard – WR – Cincinnati – 0 mock (5 poll votes)
(2nd) 2nd round:
- Mike Iupati – OG – Idaho – 1 mock
- Darrell Stuckey – S – Kansas – 1 mock
- Eric Olsen – C – Notre Dame – 1 mock
- Kris O’Dowd – C – USC – 1 mock
- Matt Tenant – C – Boston College – 1 mock
- Boo Robinson – DT – Wake Forest – 1 mock
- Tony Washington – OT – Abilene Christian – 1 mock
- Vince Oghnobaase – DT – Duke – 1 mock
- Nate Allen – S – USF – 1 mock
- Kyle McCarthy – S – Notre Dame – 1 mock
- Ciron Black - OT - LSU - 1 mock
- Jason Fox - OT - Miami - 1 mock
- Jerry Hughes - OLB - Texas Christian University - 1 mock
3rd Round:
- Jordan Shipley – WR – Texas – 3 mock
- Jerome Murphy – CB – University of Southern Florida – 2 mock
- Bruce Campbell – OT – Maryland – 1 mock
- Sean Lee – ILB – Penn State – 1 mock
- Marshwan Gilyard – WR – Cincinnati – 1 mock
- Eric Decker – WR – Minnesota – 1 mock
- Gabe Carimi – OT – Wisconsin – 1 mock
- John Estes – C – Hawaii – 1 mock
- Jason Fox - OT - University of Miami (FL) - 1 mock
- Mike Johnson - OG - Alabama - 1 mock
4th round:
- Darrell Stuckey – S – Kansas – 2 mock
- Dexter Davis – OLB – Arizona State University – 2 mock
- Vladamir Ducasse - OG - University of Massachusetts - 2 mock
- Sam Young - OL - Notre Dame - 1 mock
- Jacoby ford – WR – Clemson – 1 mock
- Dezmon Briscoe – WR – Kansas – 1 mock
- Jean-Pierre Paul – DE/OLB – USF – 1 mock
- Mike Johnson – OG – Alabama – 1 mock
- Micah Johnson – ILB – Kentucky – 1 mock
- Matt Tenant – C – Boston College – 1 mock
- Toby Gerhart - RB - Stanford - 1 mock
- Eric Olsen - OG - Notre Dame - 1 mock
AP Draft Consensus by Position:
1st Round - Safety
(1st) 2nd Round - Offensive Line
(2nd) 2nd Round - Offensive Line
3rd Round - WR
4th Round - OLB
So as you can see the general agreement amongst the AP mock drafters (draftees?) is…well pretty standard concerning 1st round draft choices. Its rounds 2-4 where the true disparity arises and we can see personal tastes, loyalties, flavor of the month, BPA guesses etc… start to arise. But there are a few notable names and players that appeared in more then one mock draft and they are as such:
AP’s Top 5 Most Popular Mock draft Players (by appearance)
- Eric Berry (7 mock draft 1st round choice picks/ 51 poll votes)
- Russell Okung (3 Mock draft 1st round choice picks/ 45 poll votes)
- Darrell Stuckey (1 Mock draft 2nd round choice pick and 2 Mock draft 4th round)
- Jordan Shipley (3 Mock draft 3rd round choices picks)
- Cirion Black (2 mock draft 2nd choice) and Dexter Davis (2 mock draft 4th round)
Without further ado I consolidated the list into one single AP community mock draft selection based solely on the popularity of a player in a given round determined by either of the following or a combination of both:
1) Poll Votes in a mock draft thread by Nick Taylor
2) The number of appearances in different mock draft threads at the same draft position.
The AP Mock Draft Consensus By Player:
1st Round - Eric Berry – S – Tennessee
2nd Round (1) – Mike Johnson – OG – Alabama (based on poll vote numbers)
2nd Round (2) – Undecided Offensive Lineman candidate
3rd Round – Jordan Shipley – WR – Texas
4th Round – Darrel Stuckey – S – Kansas or Dexter Davis – OLB – ASU
The 2nd 2nd round choice is left as undecided. Why? Simply because there was no general agreement between any two mock draft threads or a popular vote to decide one. So as for now it will remain blank
But before I end this post let me just add this little nugget of hope for you all: my own personal mock draft to top the whole thing off :D
-butchcassidy’s Mock Draft for Winners-
(updated: November 26th with the Chiefs currently selecting at #9)
1st Round - Rolando McClain – ILB – Alabama
Why?: Rolando McClain is the force that is the force behind the Crimson Tide defense. While Terrence Cody is the anchor of the line McClain is the hammer of the 2nd level. A bona fide true ILB prospect for the ages with talent equal too (or dare I say surpassing that of) former 1st round draft choice Patrick Willis. Like Willis McClain is a nasty, nasty footballer; a hard nosed grinder able to cover side line to sideline as well as be the presence in the middle to deny the run game up the gut. A technically sound LB in coverage Rolando is the complete package, delivering in spades on all fronts. A 3 down, full motor LB that KC is sorely lacking...
2nd Round – Anthony McCoy – TE – USC
Why?: Sean Ryan, Brad Cottam, Leonard Pope need I say more? After the departure of the Chiefs all world TE Tony Gonzalez the TE position is absolutely devoid of decent talent. Each one of their TEs is absolutely horrid in the blocking in both pass and run support. They can't do anything. In comes Anthony McCoy. McCoy is the 2nd best TE prospect in this draft (behind OU's Jermain Gresham); an excellent blocker McCoy has the blocking ability of a seasoned offensive tackle behind the athletic body of a dynamic reviving threat in the pass game. While not exactly a burner McCoy does have adequate speed to get down field quick enough while possessing the athletic ability to make the catches that matter. He's a big target and would be an absolute beast in the intermediate pass game.
2nd Round (2) – Matt Tennant – C – Boston College
Why?: Ever since Casey Wiegmann left the void at the center position for the Chiefs has been...well not filled! Rudy Niswanger is a nice guy, a real smart ball player but plays to high, too slow, and just plain unsuited to play center, or at least start at center for any length of time, for any team. Rudy is what you call...quality depth; yea he's a good stop gap but he just isn't that vital cog and isn't a piece you build your O-Line out and around of. In steps Matt Tennant . If the QB is the captain of the offense then the Center is the Lieutenant of the line. An intelligent beast, Tennant is an absolute hog in the middle. An unstoppable force in the run game and an immovable object in the pass game, Tennant is fluid on his feet and vicious with his hand.
3rd Round – Jerome Murphy – CB/S – University of Southern Florida
Why?: Read on some of the other mocks that he's a more developed shut down corner type in the mold of an Al Harris of Green Bay type that knows how to play the field too his advantage, taking advantage of QB miscues with authority.
4th Round – Vladamir Duccasse – OG - UMass
Why?: Once upon a time the Chiefs possessed an O-line of legends. With Willie Roaf and Brian Waters manning the blind side, Casey Weigmann controlling the line calls, and the guard of guards Will Shields effectively sealing off the right side of the line with a man known as Jon Tait at right tackle. Ahh the good Ole days. But now the Chiefs have a sieve of a line that is patch worked and re-tooled with names such as Wade Smith, Barry Richardson, Mike Goff and Rudy Niswanger seeing time and contributing to the futility of a team looking to breathe. With a weakness at both RG and LG the solution becomes simple when the Chiefs draft the big man known as Vladamir Duccasse. Vlad is an agile big man but is just down right nasty and knows how and when to anchor,.
This is a FanPost and does not necessarily reflect the views of Arrowhead Pride's writers or editors. It does reflect the views of this particular fan though, which is as important as the views of Arrowhead Pride writers or editors.
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Nice work, but I hope we don't take a TE in the 2nd round.
Not saying we don’t need one, just not that early. I hope we address it in FA and not draft one at all.
by Helmets on Nov 12, 2009 8:28 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
Agreed
Great Post Butch! Thanks for the effort!
I'll take that bet, you're gonna regret, cause Haley's the best that's ever been...
Predicted outcome for the Raidaaa's goes a little something like this:
UCrawford bowed his head because he knew JaMarcus had been beat.
He laid that golden sig line on his profile at Lucas's feet.
Haley said: "UCrawford just come on back if you ever want to try again.
"I told you once, you son of a bitch, I'm the best that's ever been."
I actually like the idea of taking McCoy if he's available
He’s supposedly a great blocking TE, and also is emerging as a good receiver. Someone on here mentioned a couple weeks ago that Sean Ryan has given up several sacks due to his poor blocking, so installing McCoy would potentially help quite a bit with pass protection/run blocking, in addition to being an extra receiving threat.
Predictions:
Kansas City will not win more than four games in 2009
Kansas City will have a new OC and DC in 2010
Kansas City will win at least seven games in 2010
but... you can get Colin Peek in the 4th/5th round
Not sure if there’s THAT much difference
* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season
I don't know who Colin Peek is...
…but I’ll take your word for it! :)
KC really needs this draft to be as efficient as possible in acquiring multiple starters, so if you can get similar talent farther down the board I’d be all for it.
Predictions:
Kansas City will not win more than four games in 2009
Kansas City will have a new OC and DC in 2010
Kansas City will win at least seven games in 2010
alabama TE...6'6" 255lbs
Talented pass catcher. Huge target who has soft hands and can be a force in the running game as a blocker.
http://usc.scout.com/a.z?s=15&p=8&c=1&nid=1665493
* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season
I agree
I would love to get a new athletic TE, but unless he’s an elite college TE, the 2nd round is just too early.
by KCCHIEFSfan 82 on Nov 12, 2009 7:38 PM CST up reply actions
Good post
but the TE thing in the second does cast doubt on butch’s sanity. j/k (sorta) :P
Braccae illae virides cum subucula rosea et tunica Caledonia-quam elenganter concinnatur!
Call me crazy but...
Anthony McCoy is considered widely as the 2nd best TE in college this season behind Jermaine Gresham.
I have no love for Sean Ryan, I think the guy is just…awful when it comes to being a complete TE so if there is a chance for us to grab a solid college prospect who I think adds a welcome dimension to our offense both blocking and in the passing game then the Chiefs need to jump at the opportunity. Every successful team needs to have a successful TE; Pitt. and Heath Miller, Balt. and Todd Heap, New England and Ben Watson, Indy. and Dallas Clark etc…McCoy looks to be the best bet at fulfilling that blocking roll the Chiefs just don’t have at TE while also possessing the reliable receiving ability to be a dynamic intermediate threat in the pass game.
So yea I think the Chiefs should address it ;)
by butchcassidy on Nov 12, 2009 1:43 PM CST up reply actions
agreed that it should be addressed...
I’d consider McCoy or Gresham… but I’d rather get a FA (like Watson) or use a 5th round pick on one… since there are some team needs that require a higher draft pick
Also, for all the success Pioli has in drafts… I think he’s had trouble getting TEs in the draft that pan out… not sure why, or if that is a trend that continues… but, Maybe they’d want to address it other ways to save a draft pick
* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season
I dunno I haven't looked at his TE draft history but they did grab...
Ben Watson at the tail end of the 1st round (32nd overall) when they grabbed him and he’s been a mainstay of the NE offense ever since.
If the Chiefs can grab a solid TE like Ben Watson in FA then sure I’m all for it but if they don’t (and I don’t think they will) the Chiefs will be heading into the 2010 season with the same compliment of TEs they have now (Cottom, Ryan, Pope) all of which are…average at best and none of which is any good at blocking.
Tom Crabtree and that other guy I think just won’t pan out at TE (I maybe wrong). I think McCoy is as solid a prospect in the mold of a more dynamic and athletic threat as a TE then what will be available on the market.
This team is hurting in a lot of areas so if they can grab an insta-starter with that 2nd round pick and choose McCoy I can’t say that I’d be upset.
by butchcassidy on Nov 12, 2009 1:56 PM CST up reply actions
I always thought Cottam was a decent Blocker
It seemed they ran alot better with him in there instead of Gonzo. I think they should just develop Cottam. We cant afford to grab a luxury pick like McCoy, Now if Gresham was there in the 2nd then no hesitating. Also, I think you could get McCoy in the late 2nd. I think Mike Iupati is a way better value pick there or even ODowd. I just want them to address the interior line or move Albert inside.
OHANA!
by darwithabar on Nov 13, 2009 10:26 PM CST up reply actions
Yes indeed
New England has had a laughable history when it comes to drafting TE’s. Watson was decent but they made an annual tradition of wasting a pick on a TE for quite some time.
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I'm all for a big blocking TE. God knows we need it!
But I wouldn’t burn a 2nd round pick on one when we can address O-line or NT. Much greater needs IMO.
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agreed.
I’d sign Matthews and/or Watson
then draft a S, C, NT, OLB
* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season
Absolutely
That would cover some needs. (Emphasis on SOME)
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Nice Work!!
That is awesome!!
"Its going to be a challenge, its going to feel like forever, and there will be difficulties. But we will emerge on the other side of it stronger than we were when we entered." ~ Sudden
I like Walter football's latest mock.
4. Kansas City Chiefs: Eric Berry, S, Tennessee
The only options here are Eric Berry and Bruce Campbell. Left tackle is a huge need because Scott Pioli must protect his $63 investment. However, there is some concern with Campbell’s injury history, meaning teams drafting in the top 5-10 could shy away from him (think Eugene Monroe and his knee last year).
Eric Berry is the top-rated prospect in this class. Kansas City’s secondary is a mess, and Berry is the type of playmaker they need to help stop the pass. If you click on Berry’s name, you’ll see that Matt McGuire has compared him to Ed Reed in his scouting report. Call me crazy, but the Chiefs could definitely use an Ed Reed on their roster. They could also use someone like Bernard Pollard. What happened to him anyway
36. Kansas City Chiefs: Jason Fox, OT, Miami
In six games, Branden Albert has surrendered six sacks and has been whistled for four penalties. Pioli didn’t draft Albert, and the Chiefs organization doesn’t have that much money invested into him (about $3 million over the next four years). Scott Pioli can afford to draft a franchise left tackle and move Albert around in an effort to give Matt Cassel more time in the pocket. He needs to protect his investment – no matter how bad it may be.
64. Kansas City Chiefs: Jonathan Dwyer, RB, Georgia Tech
The Chiefs have a talented running back in Jamaal Charles, but Todd Haley doesn’t understand the concept of getting the ball into the hands of his best players. In fact, I put together some scientific proof which shows why Todd Haley sucks at coaching football (scroll down to the Chiefs in the NFL Power Rankings.)
At any rate, Kansas City will be looking for an every-down runner with Larry Johnson off making fun of people who ride loud motorcycles.
68. Kansas City Chiefs: Dan Williams, NT, Tennessee
The Chiefs need help all over their defense, including the nose tackle position.
Johnnie Morton: The Man. The Myth. The Legend.
by craig in calgary on Nov 12, 2009 4:17 PM CST reply actions
yeah, i saw that one too... the only change I'd make is...
Take a C instead of Dwyer (RB)
I’d rather roll w/ Charles, Smith, Savage, Wiliams than spend another draft pick on a RB this year.
C is a HUGE need, and there should be a top 5 rated center available with that pick
* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season
OR
take a OLB with that 2nd round pick, and a C in the 3rd
* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season
I still think a good starting C could be found in round 4 or even 5.
That being said, I agree…there seems to be ample talent on the team at RB.
The next 8 games will dictate that I guess.
Johnnie Morton: The Man. The Myth. The Legend.
by craig in calgary on Nov 12, 2009 4:26 PM CST up reply actions
agreed
* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season
Walter Football is a huge joke...
He uses the same write ups for different players. Like the Jason Fox pick, He has had that up since August, when he had the Chiefs taking O Kung @ 4. He had the pick and the same write up just O Kung instead of Fox. He also had Tim Tebow going #4 in August, That dude is a square.
OHANA!
by darwithabar on Nov 13, 2009 10:29 PM CST up reply actions
OL OL OL OL OL OL OL
and maybe NT somewhere along the way … and no, I do NOT think high 1st round is “too early” for OL … if the guy is THAT GOOD he’s THAT GOOD and we need him, period … I’d love to see this team rebuild the OL to the dominating type it was under Vermeil, and before that under Marty (to an extent) …
football starts in the trenches, teams are built around OL and DL … as we have the nucleus of a good, YOUNG line on the D side, our NEEDS dictate we concentrate on, and invest in, OL … and since there are no guarantees (no player in the draft is a guarantee, regardless of position or where he’s taken in the draft) you must “assume” one or two or more MOST LIKELY won’t work out … therefore the need to CYA in effect: get as many and more than what you NEED (and any pick can always be traded later on)
that’s how I see it … start on the line and build out from there
Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisiton!
Also agree agree agree.
And if a dominant left tackle falls to the Chiefs, he oughta be hard to pass up, much as I’m a fan of getting the best DBs possible. To me, the 1st round would be a tossup between OT and DB, if there’s a true blue-chipper remaining. WR an outside possibility.
I really don’t want the ILB who plays behind Cody. Classic Ryan Sims mistake, just by the geometry. And spending a 1st-rounder on LB before OL and NT are settled is a mistake, just on general principles.
Going TE with the 1st 2nd-rounder is a stretch, unless there’s confidence in a deep OL class. I just generally don’t feel comfortable with any mock that puts TE, LB, RB above OT, DL, DB. When the latter 3 position groups are dominant, then you go bigger for dominant players at the 1st 3 positions. Meantime, you certainly want good (and hope for pleasant surprises, here and there) players at ILB, TE, RB, but you want to set the table so that a fairly wide range of players (with high football IQ) will fit within a fundamentally sound team concept based on great trench play and ability to go 1-on-1 on the perimeter, as needed.
No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.
I wouldnt care if they drafted Suh..
I know people say we cant invest that much money in the D Line but this guy is crazy. I think he could play NT for 2 reasons:
1. He requires a double team just to be slowed down. He has beat triple teams several times this season. If you can beat triple teams in college then you will atleast be doubled all the time in the NFL.
2. He has such quick feet that he can beat linemen untouched. He is fast enough to slip by OG untouched, thats crazy. He can split the double team and put pressure on the QB better then anyone we have.
In a 3-4, You need a dominating NT who requires a double team. If he is getting doubled that leaves 3 linemen to blcok 3 other players, Thats what you want. He also only weighs about 10 pounds less then a NT. James Ferguson 310, Abrayu Franklin 315. Suh is taller then both of those people. Maybe they could even move Dorsey inside and let him gain weight but I wouldnt do that. I would put Suh @ NT and leave it how it is. Our D Line would be steeler good, Giants (2007) good. Pick up some o linemen in mid rounds and FA.
I honestly think we wont be able to get suh because he will go so early, So I usually lean towards Berry.
OHANA!
So you like Suh...
Heh. We went round ‘n’ round in another thread on this. I hate arguing against a great d-lineman, especially if he’s likely to be an upgrade. Still don’t see him as a NT. You draft a guy like him in the 1st to finish plays in a 4-3, and not to be a lunch-bucket facilitator for your LBs. Myself, I see getting a NT as a less expensive proposition. But if Suh fell to the Chiefs, scenarios involving a Dorsey trade would be on the table and I’d still see KC on the market for a pure NT.
No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.
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