Chiefs G Mike Goff to Injured Reserve is Confirmed
Indeed it appears Kansas City Chiefs right guard Mike Goff will be headed to injured reserve ending his season eight games early according to Kent Babb of the Kansas City Star. Babb first reported the roster moves on his Twitter account.
He was battling a shoulder injury over the last couple weeks, an injury that caused him to snap his 113 game starting streak last weekend.
In Goff's place will be Andy Alleman, who got the starting nod on Sunday. I was content with Alleman's performance last weekend. I think he'll be fine for the rest of the season, but that position will certainly be eligible for an upgrade over the offseason and into the NFL draft.
Behind Alleman is Wade Smith, the swing man on the offensive line.
As we told you a few minutes ago, linebacker Justin Rogers was signed in Goff's place.
Goff was the one of the veterans brought in by Todd Haley to help with the leadership aspect of a young club. However, he was actually expected to produce in his time here. I think many of us would say he's about had it as a starting NFL guard after 12 years of service.
Goff is due $1 million in base salary this season and $1.1 million next. He is eligible to be a free agent in 2011.
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For All Our Gripes About Him
Best of luck to the guy. I doubt he’ll be back here next year and I doubt he’ll attract much interest elsewhere. He had a good career…too bad that he wasn’t the same player when he got here.
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Predictions for 2009
Fire Haley now.
by UCrawford on Nov 11, 2009 12:56 PM CST reply actions 2 recs
Yeah... you hate to see that for his sake
I believe the guy was a good leader and locker room guy
you hate to see anyone’s season cut short for injuries…
however, I think the OL will be better for it
* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season
by stagdsp on Nov 11, 2009 1:00 PM CST reply actions 2 recs
Agreed
Even though he had a good career before this season, I don’t think too many people will argue that he was doing us a lot of good out there.
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Predictions for 2009
Fire Haley now.
well maybe our opponents....
Winning begins with Attitude - Haley and Pioli will be winners in KC!
I'll forever be a Chiefs fan! Only God himself could take that away from me, but when I get to my great reward, I'll rejoin two bigger fans, my Mom and Dad.
I bet Cassel could hardly contain his joy upon hearing the news
Predictions:
Kansas City will not win more than four games in 2009
Kansas City will have a new OC and DC in 2010
Kansas City will win at least seven games in 2010
by jmcgoblue on Nov 11, 2009 1:11 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
well maybe not joy
but relief :)
Predictions:
Kansas City will not win more than four games in 2009
Kansas City will have a new OC and DC in 2010
Kansas City will win at least seven games in 2010
It seems like waaay more people are on IR this year than previous years.
for all that talk about the new conditioning program preventing injuries it sure hasnt paid dividends.
Does anyone know the official number of players we have on IR this year?
A man who says he can, and a man who says he can't are both right. Which one are you?
i think maybe pioli/haley use IR more liberally than past regimes...
seems like some of these injuries didn’t have to be season-enders… but they’ve used IR instead of releasing someone with an injury settlement, when someone doesn’t factor into the plans anymore this year
* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season
I was getting the feeling Mike Brown was gonna be on IR next week.....
by Hail2DaChiefs on Nov 11, 2009 1:13 PM CST up reply actions
maybe...
just gotta find an “injury” that the league office wouldn’t question :)
* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season
nah, can't be that ... and after all, haley has the team in MUCH better condition THIS year
… you know how “soft” the team was under herm, but THIS year practically injury free!!!
well, except Goff … and DJ, and Page and …
Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisiton!
Cassel and Bowe and...
Don't Fuccop Succop
by chicks_love_chiefs on Nov 11, 2009 3:14 PM CST up reply actions
Yup Haley
is responsible for everything that happens to the Chiefs.
He probably is responsible for that new roll of TP not dropping when it’s suppost to in the Arrowhead bathrooms as well.
Yeah, let's just keep matriculatin' the ball down the field, boys! ...
by oldchiefsfan on Nov 11, 2009 4:28 PM CST up reply actions
Agreed
I think they use the IR much to their advantage, take Colin Brown for instance. I think they want to get returns on their investment and rather than outright release him and let him potentially grabbed by other teams they retain him by placing him on IR and he’s not eating a roster spot. Weston Dacus blows my mind on the other hand and I wonder too if they really want a good look at him before they decide to pass him over
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by KansasCityShuffle on Nov 11, 2009 1:26 PM CST up reply actions
yep
AND, some of it is money/NFLPA related, I think
if a guy has ANY kind of injury, he can come back and file a grievance asking for an injury settlement, so the team sometimes chooses to not fight them and use IR instead
but, that’s my mostly-un-educated opinion :)
* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season
That's a shame
Always seemed like a nice guy, but I am excited to see if Alleman can step up and fill a major need.
Free at last, Free at last, Thank God Almighty we are free at last...
from ever having to see him imitate a turnstyle on the Chiefs Offensive Line.
by Your_Moms_Boyfriend on Nov 11, 2009 1:03 PM CST reply actions
Karma seems to be working on our side for once!
We cut LJ.
Mike Goff is not going to start another game for us this year.
Let’s just hope it keeps up going into Oakland this weekend.
Feeling "The Love" and "Drinking the Kool AId"
yeah
Considering that this season has officially tanked, it’ll be good to finally wash away these unproductive older players that were hanging over the team & see what guys like Charles & Alderman/Ndukwe can do.
Predictions:
Kansas City will not win more than four games in 2009
Kansas City will have a new OC and DC in 2010
Kansas City will win at least seven games in 2010
What happened to Ndukwe?
I can’t remember…
My long, drawn-out predictions that no one cares about, nor will bother to remember:
1. Todd Haley will still be the Chiefs Head Coach up to the 2011 season.
2. Clancy Pendergast won't make it to the 2010 season and was never intended to. Last-minute hire for a position that needed to be filled.
3. Todd Haley will not be the OC at the start of the 2010 season.
Really?
I missed this. Nduwke to IR? As much front page material that gets thrown up these days if you’re gone from AP for 4+ hours it’s possible you’re missing breaking news like this…
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by KansasCityShuffle on Nov 11, 2009 1:28 PM CST up reply actions
No No
Just a reserve…not injured reserve.
Moderator - Arrowhead Pride
Predictions for 2009
Fire Haley now.
yeah, he's the backup RT
I think he still has a chance to contribute at some point
* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season
He Might
We shall see. Can’t say my expectations of him are that high, but we didn’t give up a lot to get him.
Moderator - Arrowhead Pride
Predictions for 2009
Fire Haley now.
yep...
even if he and Alleman are career backups for KC
it was a GOOD trade for one 6th round pick.
Obviously, they’ve gotten starts out of both guys, so that’s even better.
IF one can win the starting RG position for 2010 and beyond… that’s a HUGE win for KC
* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season
IF They Turn Into Good Starters
But that’s a pretty big if.
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Predictions for 2009
Fire Haley now.
So its officially been disclosed
we gave up a 6th for Alleman & Nduwke?
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by KansasCityShuffle on Nov 11, 2009 3:05 PM CST up reply actions
I think Babb said it
among others, so… pretty much
* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season
End of season? End of career...
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by HIV 2 Elway on Nov 11, 2009 1:22 PM CST via mobile reply actions 1 recs
I would much rather Goff had lost his job and not gotten hurt...
Kinda salt in the wound really.
This space for rent.
Blessing in disguise
On another note, Wade Smith is the most underrated lineman on our roster. He can literally place every position on the line. Nice find Herm.
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by KansasCityShuffle on Nov 11, 2009 1:27 PM CST reply actions
Dreams really do come true!!!
I was happy with Alleman as well. He did well in the running game, but not so much in the passing game — just like Goff. Ndukwe seems like the superior pass blocker (judging from his stats in Miami) but I guess there is a reason Miami let him go for a 6th rounder. I would like to see these two battle it out.
This move to IR is about 6 weeks too late, but I will definitely take it.
I'll sleep a little better tonight.
No more Goff. Good luck to him though.
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I was against the Goff acquisition
But this isn’t an I-told-you-so moment. This is a moment when I just hope that Goff gets better and moves on, and that his replacement plays out of his mind.
So what’s the offensive line personnel strategy going to be for next season? If Albert and Waters are both back, who else stays, and who’s at the curb? I’m hoping Rudy is replaced, being either demoted to backup or cut. O’Callaghan hasn’t been a world beater, but I actually think he might have the tools to be a solid starter with the right development. Other than that, I think wholesale changes are in order. This line needs at least one solid—not Goff solid, Jason Brown solid—UFA acquisition, and an early starter and perhaps one or two other OL in the draft. Fill in the gaps with inexpensive vets.
by burntorangehorn on Nov 11, 2009 2:40 PM CST reply actions
been talking about this a lot in other posts
but, I think Albert, Waters and O’Call are very likely back next year as starters
a new starting C is very much in order, hopefully from the draft
a new starting RG may already be on the roster between Ndukwe, Alleman, Brown, Niswanger
OR could be drafted in the middle rounds.
So, I think 2 new starters, at least 1 or 2 draft picks on the OL.
A big time FA would be nice, but not absolutely required
* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season
Getting starters in the draft is doable
But they have to be surrounded by decent players. It’d be bad for the entire offense to rely on two side-by-side rookies, in most cases. I think Albert and Waters are definites, unless Waters gets a little too expensive, and BOC provides an option as a starting RT. But either RG or C needs to have a seasoned, solid veteran, I would think. It wouldn’t even have to be a big-timer. Heck, O’Callaghan’s old linemate, Daryn Colledge? I believe he’s a free agent for Green Bay in 2010. Same with David Baas (Michigan guy now OG/C at SF) and Max Jean-Gilles (whom I really wanted KC to draft out of Georgia, now at Philly).
by burntorangehorn on Nov 11, 2009 2:58 PM CST up reply actions
I'm with ya
but, the fact that Goff is out gives Alleman the chance to earn the job…
would sure be nice if he was the answer there!
IF he doesn’t play well, maybe Ndukwe will get a chance to earn it.
either way, at least we can see what we’ve got there… and address the position accordingly via FA and/or the draft
* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season
Finding a solid young starter among the current backups would be an early Christmas
Heck, I hope KC finds a number of the youngsters worth keeping around as more than just depth.
by burntorangehorn on Nov 11, 2009 3:13 PM CST up reply actions
you and me both!
I’ve said it before… but look at the list of POSSIBLE future solid starters already on the roster… (yes, I realize that All of them won’t work out, but SOME might, and that’d make the job much easier)
Alleman, Ndukwe, Colin Brown (2010), Lawrence (2010), Washington (2010 or 2011), Javarris Williams (2010), Belcher, Mays, Morgan, Barry Richardson, Ryan O’Callaghan, Jamaal Charles, Kolby Smith, Savage
IF a handfull of those guys can “stick”… there might be less “holes” on the roster than we think there are
* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season
I still have hope for a couple of "out of favor" guys, too...
Namely DJ and Page
DJ can start to work his way back up the depth chart, and Page could be back at it next year…
* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season
I think DJ has earned a spot on the depth chart, but he must’ve punched Haley in the balls or something.
by burntorangehorn on Nov 11, 2009 3:58 PM CST up reply actions
both
where do you think colin would go?
who is waters replacement?
barry and ryan and alleman look good
by kcstevesportsfan on Nov 11, 2009 3:38 PM CST up reply actions
...
Colin was working at RG in camp, so he’ll at least be good depth there, if not developing into a starter
Waters’ long term replacement would need to be located, I agree… not sure if he’s on the roster or not…
* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season
Kind of makes you question
this regimes decision making….It took an injury for Goff to lose his starting job. It took LJ going nuts to lose his starting job. Things are wierd…I just looked at the depth chart, Copper is listed as the number 2 receiver behind Bowe, Chambers is listed at number 4…WTF?
I'm chalking this up to the new regime feeling this team out
They’re constantly turning over the roster to get a good look at all these guys. The LJ thing was a pain because I think that he was held on the roster because of his contract. All the talk about the “right 53” took a backseat to this organization being a business first and foremost. I wouldn’t read too much into Goff’s injury. Didn’t he miss last week because of a “personal matter”? I thought those were the initial reports. I don’t think his injury is season ending. I’m willing to bet that they were trying to get as much as they could out of Goff and finally gave up. It’s time to look for a RG elsewhere.
The roster turnover will continue the rest of this season. I’m confident that after another draft and a free agency is completed, the new regime’s players that they want will be in place at the beginning of next year and likely stay there all season.
It's years like this that I wish I was a bear. Hibernation would make it so much easier.
by Red N Gold Beast on Nov 11, 2009 3:58 PM CST up reply actions
agreed
* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season
agreed 2
interesting to see what they do with full offseason together
no waiting on pioli and haley to improve our team
by kcstevesportsfan on Nov 11, 2009 4:04 PM CST up reply actions
Yep. .
No one will easily admit it, or like it, but this is and always was a year to evaluate and see what is available from the remains of last year’s team. If people would calm down and realize that this was likely the plan all along, then the whole “process” starts to make sense. Pioli even said this wouldn’t be a “Miami like turn around”. Let Haley get his feet wet. Let him find out who can play on the type of team that he wants to field. Then load up on “your” players in teh draft and fill holes in free agency. If we’re still having major issues at week 8 of 2010, then I’ll have a problem.
It's years like this that I wish I was a bear. Hibernation would make it so much easier.
by Red N Gold Beast on Nov 11, 2009 4:05 PM CST up reply actions
Personally, I don't think the depth chart matters to them.
Even if the “starters” actually start, they might not actually be on the field long. Coach and the Don seem to use it as a message board to the guys, and to screw with the opponents. Me, I don’t read to much into what it says, more what they do during the game.
I just dont know how hard they a really trying to win games....
If this is an evaluation yr, then why have we not given more guys opportunities. Brown sucks, how come the back up has not played more just to see what he can do in a game situation, the running game has struggled, why were we continually giving LJ the ball and not giving other guys more touches. So what, at 1-5 if Charles has fumble problems,this is the yr to let him play through it. Why are we holding onto 4 TEs, all of whom suck. Drop at least one and bring in another player that might be an improvement in another area. Little things like that.
I dont know everything about running a team, but some of this boils down to common sense if you are really trying to win games. They rely waaay too much on castoffs from the pats or players directly linked to them. They have let contracts and moneydecide who is playing,instead of who gives them the best chance to win.
I question the playcalling as well….If your trying to win, why are you calling a draw play on 3rd and 12, or a pass play for 6 yds. Haley claims he wants to be a running team, but wont hand the ball off to a guy that has speed and a 5 yrd per carry average. And then we throw the ball 40+ times in a game.
Im just saying that there are a lot of things that you can point to that dont make a damn bit of sense.
Are we getting better? Addition by subtraction, I mean
I usually think that’s a silly idea, I mean who doesn’t play their best players, but if the talent hasn’t been evaluated properly, then maybe we are getting better by these recent replacements.
1. Chris Chambers > Bobby Enghram, Toomer, Lelie, Wade, and Bradley
2. Charles & Smith > LJ
3. Alleman > Goff
That’s three positions we’ve recently upgraded, IMO. Who’s fault is that? Pioli’s or Haley’s? Or both?
I'll take that bet, you're gonna regret, cause Haley's the best that's ever been...
Predicted outcome for the Raidaaa's goes a little something like this:
UCrawford bowed his head because he knew JaMarcus had been beat.
He laid that golden sig line on his profile at Lucas's feet.
Haley said: "UCrawford just come on back if you ever want to try again.
"I told you once, you son of a bitch, I'm the best that's ever been."
yessir
Good upgrades indeed.
I think it’s a combination of factors… Chambers unexpected availability, Goff’s injury, LJ’s stupidity…
I see your point, though, that those guys maybe shouldn’t be starting in the first place…
* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season
pluses
1. chamvers just got avail
2. smit just got avail
3. goof fooled them
haley’s fault on goff
by kcstevesportsfan on Nov 11, 2009 3:55 PM CST up reply actions
As much as I hate to say it...
We don’t know that yet on Alleman, though it’s a pretty safe bet. I’ve liked what I’ve seen from him, but it’s been pretty limited so far. Definately hoping for the best there.
All the shifting players around and whatnot is nothing new for Pioli. This article i found may have been posted here a while ago but i just read it myself, sounds pretty close to what we have going on here now, and in the article it says it took him 2 years to turn the patriots around.
http://www.patriots.com/team/index.cfm?ac=MgersandExecsbio&bio=12539

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