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From 2-14 to Superbowl....the Chiefs can do it too!

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     There is definitely a growing contingency of us on AP that would like for Haley to be fired. Honestly, I have days where I want to drive to Arrowhead pitchfork and torch in hand to help make it happen. But we have to remind ourselves that we should have expected another bad season in KC, because the one year turn around is simply not the norm. Good for the Dolphins and Falcons for getting it together last year after dismal seasons prior. I'm not sure that we will have the same fortune. That doesn't mean that we are not on the right track, however. I've been digging through the NFL archives to find stories of teams in situations similar to ours. And without further ado I give you the tale of a team that was just as buried in the muck and mire as our Chiefs...........enjoy.

 

The San Fransico 49ers (1978-1981)

  • 1978    The 49ers were in a bit of turmoil this year with GM (Joe Thomas) in his second season managing the players and personnel. The season prior to this one he fired the previous coach and hired his own guy to get the team going in a different direction. The 49'ers had two first round picks that year that were later deemed busts. 
    • Record 2-14 (sound familiar?)
    • Offense Ranking 28th (out of 28)
    • Defense Ranking 23rd
  • 1979    Bill Walsh (then head coach of Stanford University) is brought in in the offseason after 1978 in hopes to turn around the nightmare that was the 49'ers at the time. In his first draft the 49'ers chose some guy by the name of Joe Montana. Apparently Montana was not highly rated at QB at that time because of his height (6'0") and lack of arm strength. Bill Walsh began to mold the team installing a new offensive scheme (the West Coast offense), but the turn around would take a little longer than 49'ers fans had hoped.....
    • Record 2-14 (drawing parallels people, follow me)
    • Offense Ranking 16th (out of 28)
    • Defense Ranking 27th

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  • 1980     The 49'ers begin to fight back against teams trying to destroy them like they had been in previous years. Walsh alternates Steve DeBerg (the starting QB at the beginning of the season) and Joe Montana which gets the offense going in the right direction. A couple of draft pics begin to gel this year, especially Dwight Clark (WR from Clemson).
    • Record 6-10 (ahhhhh......progress)
    • Offense Ranking 12th (out of 28)
    • Defense Ranking 26th
  • 1981     Good year....I was born then. And a good one for the 49'ers indeed. The offense looked a lot better by the end of the previous year, and they had made their mark in history with the largest comeback in history by rallying from 28 points down to beat the Saints in week 14. With the offense starting to click, Walsh and company begin to focus a little bit more on the defensive side of the ball. They select Ronnie Lott (DB from USC) and he along with the rest of the defense really stepped up it this year........and they win the Superbowl!
    • Record 13-3
    • Offense Ranking 7th (out of 28)
    • Defense Ranking 2nd

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    Alright, so that was definitely an abbreviated history on the 49'ers and the fastest turnaround for an NFL franchise ever. I didn't know about the history behind what led to "The Catch" until I had done a little digging around for examples of teams that were in similar situations than we are right now. So lets look at what happened with the 49'ers during this time period in an even more broken down form.

  1. New GM comes to town
  2. Hires a new coach, then quickly hires another one to get things moving (hopefully we won't have to do this)
  3. New coach installs his own offensive scheme and drafts and picks players to start improving on one side of the ball (we've been on the defensive side of the ball early in the draft in recent years)
  4. There were a good combination of player acquisitions as both draft picks (Montana, Clark, Lott) and a mixture of veteran FAs
  5. The defensive side of the ball is improved to complete the transition

     Learning about how these guys turned it around gives me a little more hope as we keep it moving in a season that has had some moral victories here and there, but plenty of heartache for all. We never get a lot of detail as to what Pioli, Haley and crew are up to at One Arrowhead and that's okay as long as they have a vision and are working toward it in the most efficient manner possible. I will say that I'm starting to get a feel for Pioli's strategy with the latest player acquisitions and in particular Lance Long.

      Long (think Montana from the story above) has some talent, but nobody was exactly knocking down his door. He's got the upside and a never give up mentality and you can see it in his toughness on the field. He's all business and he's not backing down from anybody standing in the way of a first down. Pioli is not gonna stop until this whole team has this mentality. We need hard workers that have enough talent to get the job done. But we also need these players to be compatible with who we have at head coach. Some of us agree with Haley's approach and attitude and some don't. Doesn't matter. What matters if his approach and attitude bring the potential out in the players. As long as it does, then Haley do your thing man........curse up a storm for all I care. 

     We (like the 1979 49'ers) have been getting pushed around long enough now. We are gonna get some junkyard dog type football players that know where there supposed to be on the field at all times, and we are gonna start punishing people for having us on their schedule..........it's coming people.

 

 

References

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Francisco_49ers

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/sfo/1979.htm

http://www.ninersnation.com/2009/3/20/804926/49ers-year-by-year-1979

This is a FanPost and does not necessarily reflect the views of Arrowhead Pride's writers or editors. It does reflect the views of this particular fan though, which is as important as the views of Arrowhead Pride writers or editors.

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Nice Post

Thx for the research. All I can say is that I hope the turnaround happens sooner than later. I know the Chiefs have the GREATEST fan base but the constant loosing is really starting to hurt. I dont want to see blackouts and/or become a laughing stock of the NFL. Im just hoping that the new G.M. can pick em’. Hopefully its not a “meet the new boss same as the old boss” kinda thing…

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by GanjaChief on Nov 11, 2009 12:46 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Great! No problems

As long as Haley turns out to be Bill Walsh, and Cassell turns out to be Joe Montana, and we draft Eric Berry and turns out to be Ronnie Lott, then we win the Super Bowl in 2 years. I don’t see any holes in this logic.

by NCChiefs on Nov 11, 2009 12:58 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

i think cassel

turns out to be steve Deberg…………

by mcclanahanman on Nov 11, 2009 11:22 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Nice Post

I hope the chiefs can turn it around and atleast get to 8-8 next year. I think they are heading the right way.

OHANA!

by darwithabar on Nov 11, 2009 1:13 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

So...

…due to your comparisons between Lance Long and Joe Montana, I’m going to go out on a limb here and say it’s time for Lance to alternate with Cassel under center. =)

Good article and nice research. It’s nice to see some optimism.

"I don't know if I want to go to New York. They'll have to pay me a lot more money because I like it here in Kansas City." -- Roger Maris

by KaloPhoenix on Nov 11, 2009 2:05 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

i would find it very hard

to drive to Arrowhead with a pitchfork and torch in hand!

by jrcnc on Nov 11, 2009 2:18 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Thank you

I’m so tired of the negativity and all of this nonsense about firing Haley so early in his career.

I really appreciate your optimism, and I share it.

by kielcary on Nov 11, 2009 3:02 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

I've hit enough hard times in life to know

that this team will bounce back. And we really are not that far from being competitive. We’ve just got to think big picture right now……and appreciate the moral victories until the game victories start piling up.

by Hail2DaChiefs on Nov 11, 2009 3:28 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Using stats from other franchises to cover poor decision making

…is fuzzy math. And I’m not a fan of fuzzy math. Haley needs to get his shit together. Why the fuck is DJ riding the bench? If we have no hopes of reaching the playoffs, why don’t we sit Cassel for the rest of the season instead of waiting for him to become a concussion-prone zombie behind our makeshift line? Why isn’t Brad Cottam being properly utilized? Why isn’t Charles being integrated more into the game? And if Haley’s plate is so god damn full, then why did he fire a good offensive coordinator? And if I even think about Clancy, my head will assplode!

I like Haley’s work ethic, but I am less than certain that he has what it takes to be the head coach of an NFL team.

by Pilcrow on Nov 11, 2009 10:44 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

This was not an attempt to cover anything up........

Just something positive for AP members to read while we’re weathering the storm.

by Hail2DaChiefs on Nov 12, 2009 8:18 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Pilcrow

Haven’t you ever heard of keeping your head up? This goes for all Debby Downer chiefs fans. It wasn’t that bad looking at our situation in the beginning of the year just saying oh we don’t expect much this year. But now that everybody has to live with not being good it’s like everybody is plotting mutiny. Have some faith! Corny line but, as they say, the night is darkest before the dawn.

Obviously Haley doesn’t like something about DJ, he simply isn’t part of the Chiefs right 53, so why waste time with him even if he is good, were building for the future not the now (even though it’s hard to live like that).

 Think about what you said about Cassel. What good would it do to sit Matt for half a season? Save him a couple hits? Well it would also undo all the time he has spent building chemistry with the rest of the starters. Living by that logic why wouldn’t we just sit all the starters on the field?

 Firing Chan was not the best move for that moment but it happened. Once again Haley didn’t like what he saw in Chan, so why keep him if he wont be here next year anyways? Clancy is a whole different topic but think about it. How much time did Pioli have to find a DC? Barely any, and by the time he was in the stage of hiring one who was left? Clancy. Clancy wont be here long either so lets not get into that.

Finally, we could have been an overnight success like the Dolphins and be great but to be honest they aren’t looking quite as good as they were last year even though they are struggling with injuries. I would rather rebuild and be a force to be reckoned with for years to come than be great then fade to just good or even average.

Let’s have some pride for our chiefs knowing in not so long we will be a top team in the NFL, this is just a year to figure out what we have and build off of it for years to come. I expect a major off-season that will definitely be a positive one!

GO CHIEFS!!!

swish

by swish7209 on Nov 12, 2009 6:06 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

"DJ, he simply isn’t part of the Chiefs right 53, so why waste time with him even if he is good"

ummmmm maybe because this team isn’t good enough to NOT play good players? or is that simply not part of “The Process” or “The Plan” … not that any of us have a clue what those might be, because, like “The Right 53” nothing has really been explained by Pioli or Haley

we, the fans, are mushrooms … kept in the dark and fed BS on occasion (aka Coachspeak)

it seems like your reasoning is “well, if Haley or Pioli say so, it must be ok” (Pendergast excepted) and if that’s your only basis for thinking there will be a “top team” anytime in the foreseeable future, I think you’re setting yourself up for a huge letdown

sincerely,

“Debbie”

Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisiton!

by upamtn on Nov 13, 2009 7:30 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

DJ is an enigma to me as well

I know they have a process and a plan, but we should use him until he is no longer a part of the team. If nothing else, let him make plays and get his value up because he’s no worse then the other linebackers. But hell, what do I know?!

by Hail2DaChiefs on Nov 13, 2009 9:03 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

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