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Having some issues this morning with posting. Not sure if it's the site or my connection. Very short Arrowheadlines today so I can get to work. From what I've seen, there isn't much out there besides the basics of the LJ story and some speculation on where he will land. Not much new from last night.

If you think that Johnson was released because of his Twitter comments about Todd Haley you would be mistaken. On the list of L.J. transgressions, talking about his coach’s history as a college golfer was barely a blip on the radar screen. Haley was not perturbed by the comments and they mattered little in the discussion involving Johnson’s future.

It is safe to say that the best relationship that Johnson had with a Chiefs head coach was with Haley. He never connected with Dick Vermeil and Johnson was in many ways the anti-Herm Edwards. What L.J. thought was important, Edwards had no use for. As a son, husband and father of two young daughters, Edwards had a hard time understanding Johnson and his treatment of women. For Herm to bring the hammer down on L.J. last year for his attitude, his arrests and his tardiness spoke volumes. If Edwards had survived as head coach, Johnson would have been gone back in February.

L.J. Finally Tips The Scale … Tuesday Cup O’Chiefs from Bob Gretz

When the talking was finished, the consensus was that Johnson, once one of football’s top running backs, had to go.

The Chiefs called Johnson with their decision about 7:30 a.m. and quickly moved to eradicate any physical evidence he ever existed. By lunchtime, his practice-facility locker had been stripped of its name tag and cleaned out. Left behind were three white towels neatly folded and stacked, and a few clothes hangers.

Erasing Johnson’s aura will be more difficult for the Chiefs. Johnson is second on the Chiefs’ all-time rushing list, only 75 yards from the top spot.

But he will be remembered more for the repeated off-field incidents during his 6 1/2 seasons that turned him into a continuing disruptive force inside the locker room.

Chiefs decide to release Larry Johnson from KC Star

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But, best I could tell, they did not admire him. They did not respect him. They did not take pride in having him as a teammate. How could they? And I don’t just say this because of the off-the-field stuff — the arrests, the drama, the Twitter rampage.

No, more, they didn’t respect the kind of football player Larry Johnson was. He could not catch. He did not block. His effort seemed intermittent. He griped constantly. You think there was a single guy on this team who pointed at Larry Johnson and proudly said: "That’s what the Chiefs are about"?

No. And yet he is exactly what the Chiefs have been about. For five years, with Priest Holmes, the Chiefs were built around an overachiever who once chased a defensive back for 100 yards after an interception in the desperate (and futile) hope that he could catch him. The last five years, with Larry Johnson, the Chiefs were built around a one-dimensional back who had to be taken out on third down and who made more headlines for getting suspended than scoring touchdowns.

It wasn’t entirely or even mostly Johnson’s fault the Chiefs got worse every one of those five years — the team really collapsed around him. But when a team’s marquee player is a gigantic pain in the neck on and off the field, well, those teams tend to be losers. There aren’t many exceptions to that rule.

Posnanski | Chiefs turn their back on LJ, who didn't carry team's respect from KC Star

The NFL will not add to Larry Johnson's punishment for making anti-gay remarks on his Twitter account or to reporters in the Chiefs locker room.

The Chiefs suspended Johnson for two weeks _ one week without pay _ for his remarks and criticisms of coach Todd Haley and released him on Monday.

According to NFL senior vice-president Greg Aiello, that was sufficient.

"The club took disciplinary action in this matter,and we determined it was appropriate," Aiello told The Star in an e-mail

NFL to take no further action against LJ from The Red Zone

The Chiefs’ release of running back Larry Johnson is expensive for the team but lucrative for the player.

Johnson is eligible to receive the remaining portion of his $4.55 million base salary from the Chiefs. Players are paid weekly through the 17 weeks of the regular season, so Johnson could collect about $2.14 million over the season’s final eight games.

To get the money from the Chiefs, Johnson must pass through the NFL’s waiver system. The waiver period concludes this afternoon. If Johnson is claimed by another team, that team assumes responsibility for his contract and the Chiefs owe him nothing more.

Johnson’s release will cost Chiefs some money from KC Star

If Larry Johnson has any immediate future in the NFL, it could be in the NFC East.

Both Philadelphia and Washington have issues at running back. The EaglesBrian Westbrook has missed two straight games because of a concussion and an ankle injury, while Washington’s Clinton Portis left Sunday’s game at Atlanta because of a concussion.

Washington coach Jim Zorn said Monday that Portis is doubtful for this week’s game against Denver and the team has had internal discussions about Johnson.

"I talked to Clinton Portis (on Monday morning), and he has a headache," Zorn said. "We have to be very cautious with a concussion."

The Eagles have taken a cautious approach with Westbrook as well. Rookie LeSean McCoy, starting in place of Westbrook, had 54 yards in 13 carries in Sunday night’s loss to Dallas. He leads the Eagles in rushing with 348 yards in 83 attempts, a 4.2-yard average.

Next stop for Johnson could be NFC East from KC Star

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I Think Gretz Is Right

I remember back in the military I had this soldier who was a complete screw-up (really nice kid, terrible soldier). So I did everything I could to turn him around. Counseling (both formal and informal), corrective training, punishment, “bribery”, good cop/bad cop, threats, pleas…I tried literally every tool in my toolkit and the kid just couldn’t get it straight, one of the worst soldiers in the unit. So after a year of this I had built up a really huge paper trail on him and had sufficient documentation to justify kicking him out of the Army and my commander was completely on board. But there was a delay, we changed commanders and the new commander (despite a six inch stack of paperwork) decided that the soldier didn’t merit getting booted until he (the new commander) got a crack at him because he could straighten that soldier out. I tried to tell the commander that it was a futile task but he wasn’t interested in listening because he apparently believed that everyone who tried to tackle the problem except him was doing it all wrong without even bothering to look over what we’d done.

A year later the soldier was still in the Army and he was just as bad if not worse at his job.

The point is this…some people just have this weird belief that a problem only exists from the time that they notice it and they refuse to accept that anyone else’s attempts and failures to fix said problems could have been legitimate. I think Haley and Pioli felt that about previous attempts with 2.7 and now it’s bitten them on the ass. Hopefully it will be a learning experience for them (but I kind of doubt it).

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by UCrawford on Nov 10, 2009 7:47 AM CST reply actions  

None of us were involved 1st-hand of course,

but there were a lot of people on here who bought 2.7’s act totally & thought that he was actually toeing the line & trying to straighten his career out. After the pre-season game with the Rams though, there was an article about 2.7 partying with some bimbos in Vegas. That was the 1st indication that I got that he hadn’t changed at all & we had fallen for his act, hook, line & sinker.
If Pioli & Co. had parted company with him when they had the golden opportunity (& wish they had in hindsight) the torches & pitchforks might have been brought out before the season even started. I know that you were saying to dump him even then (kudos to you, by the way) but I think the majority of the fan base would have went ballistic.

Long time kool-aid drinker & too old to learn a new trick! No flip-flopping allowed!

by ttownmikey on Nov 10, 2009 8:06 AM CST up reply actions  

Agreed!

Also Gretz hit it on the head here.

If you think that Johnson was released because of his Twitter comments about Todd Haley you would be mistaken.

He goes on to say he got along with Haley better than the other coaches which I think is 100% correct. Haley gave Johnson a chance, even to his (haleys) own detriment it seems like now. Johnson was definitely cut because of his on the field performance. His off the field conduct makes the decision easier perhaps, but if this guy was having a career season, cutting him would never have crossed Haleys mind.

If anyone hasn’t noticed, Haley is not a warm and cuddly type of guy. He understands these guys get into trouble and he isn’t going to make a bigger deal than needs to be made if a guy hits somebody in a bar or whatever. He’ll dole out the punishment and move on. In Johnsons case Haley could cut him because he was no longer a contributor, and he was becoming a distraction.

by Lucasjr5 on Nov 10, 2009 10:11 AM CST up reply actions  

Agreed

I also think the line from Mr. Hunt had a lot to do with it as well, He never said He gave LJ a clean slate. Clark had to deal with both the NFL and the Union over this last incident and I think he had had enough. I think this was one of the very few times I can recall the Chiefs owner ever took a hands on approach with the team. I think Lamar was more forgiving and was much more hands off than his son is and I think we are now starting to see the difference between to two.

is it me? or isn't about time the Lamar Hunt trophy belonged to His team?

I’m a Chiefs fan Dammit and I’m damn proud of it!

by KC Fanatic on Nov 10, 2009 12:36 PM CST up reply actions  

I really like Posnaski's assessment of the team dynamic

Do you guys think Joe knows? This idea makes sense and it would really be something if the tema began to turn the corner.

Winning begins with Attitude - Haley and Pioli will be winners in KC!

I'll forever be a Chiefs fan! Only God himself could take that away from me, but when I get to my great reward, I'll rejoin two bigger fans, my Mom and Dad.

by Lanier63 on Nov 10, 2009 8:33 AM CST reply actions  

I was thinking the same thing.

Add to it all the “other” players over the last several years that were perceived as the problem child, i.e J. Allen.
What was management smoking?

by BCRavenJHawkfan on Nov 10, 2009 9:01 AM CST up reply actions  

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