Ndamukong Suh

You can always use athletes

like this guy. What a weapon for any team. I think he had 2 interceptions last year and should have had 2 last night. Rush the passer, drop into coverage, doesn’t matter. He is the type of athlete you build your defense around no matter who you have or what “type” of defense you run. Playmakers are hard to find, period.

The other thing to consider is that we will draw a lot of potential trade partners for anyone else who wants to move up and draft him…

I remember Dawson to Taylor, Kenney to Carson, and Blackledge catching the snap in his facemask. Seen it all...

by BinSC on Oct 9, 2009 2:26 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Suh is a good player

But he will go high and I dont think we draft DLine in first round….

"Its going to be a challenge, its going to feel like forever, and there will be difficulties. But we will emerge on the other side of it stronger than we were when we entered." ~ Sudden

by Matt_Grbac on Oct 9, 2009 2:26 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

I hope not!!!!

Suh would probably be a 3-4 DE…
Which, most would agree, the Chiefs have drafted PLENTY of in the last 2 yrs.

He is a beast, though!!!!

* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season

by stagdsp on Oct 9, 2009 2:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

He will be off the board in the first 15 picks, so unless we trade up we won't get him :)

by saskwatch on Oct 9, 2009 2:52 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs

hahaha

by cassel4prez on Oct 9, 2009 3:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I appreciate the humor hahaha

Great players dont win championships.....Great TEAMS win championships

by DT58forever on Oct 9, 2009 3:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

This is from walterfootball.com

In four games, Branden Albert has surrendered 3.5 sacks and has been whistled for a whopping five penalties. Pioli didn’t draft Albert, and the Chiefs organization doesn’t have that much money invested into him (about $3 million over the next four years). Pioli can afford to draft a franchise left tackle and move Albert around in an effort to give Cassel more time in the pocket. He needs to protect his investment – no matter how bad it may be

"Its going to be a challenge, its going to feel like forever, and there will be difficulties. But we will emerge on the other side of it stronger than we were when we entered." ~ Sudden

by Matt_Grbac on Oct 9, 2009 2:35 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

This is their case for us to nab Russel Okung

"Its going to be a challenge, its going to feel like forever, and there will be difficulties. But we will emerge on the other side of it stronger than we were when we entered." ~ Sudden

by Matt_Grbac on Oct 9, 2009 2:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

from my fanshot? :)

did you see my comment there?

another mock draft on that site says the Chiefs go WR in the 1st and get Brandon Spikes in the 2nd

that’d be interesting…

* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season

by stagdsp on Oct 9, 2009 2:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Didnt see your fanshot

sorry

"Its going to be a challenge, its going to feel like forever, and there will be difficulties. But we will emerge on the other side of it stronger than we were when we entered." ~ Sudden

by Matt_Grbac on Oct 9, 2009 2:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

haha, no problem

great minds think alike :)

* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season

by stagdsp on Oct 9, 2009 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Correct you are my fellow draft addict

"Its going to be a challenge, its going to feel like forever, and there will be difficulties. But we will emerge on the other side of it stronger than we were when we entered." ~ Sudden

by Matt_Grbac on Oct 9, 2009 3:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Albert IS a franchise Left Tackle

Just because we aren’t paying him $60 million doesn’t mean he can’t be a great one.

Yeah he’s given up some sacks this year. But how quicly we forget he only gave up only 4.5 all year last year. Maybe it has something to do with changing the entire offensive scheme a week before the regular season and then going up against three of the NFLs top defenses? Maybe its just a sophmore slump

Yeah he’s had some penalties. Well the whole offensive line has. That’s about coaching.

Albert is going to be a pro bowl left tackle one day. Mark my words.

Left Tackle is the LEAST of this teams problems.

by ChiefDJ on Oct 9, 2009 2:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Also

Its not all about sacks.

From Chris’s post a couple days ago:

The Chiefs are ranked 6th in the league when running behind Left Tackle manned by Brandon Albert.

by ChiefDJ on Oct 9, 2009 2:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

can't argue with you too much there

I think he CAN be a great LT

hopefully he proves that faith correct.

if not, I wouldn’t be too surprised to see a LT drafted early (round 1 or 2) and Albert moved around.

Either way, Albert has to be a big part of the chiefs OL going forward.

Maybe they like him playing at a lower weight, so he can get ready for the transition to Guard, and be nimble pulling around?

Or, maybe it is the scheme change… that is another of my theories

* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season

by stagdsp on Oct 9, 2009 3:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

He is such...

a talented player that if we move him to guard and get a stud left tackle we could have a dominant line.

by I_Bleed_Red. on Oct 9, 2009 3:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Or

Keep him at LT and draft a decent Guard in the 3rd round like they should have done the last two years and you have a very good AND AFFORDABLE offensive line that leaves money left over for good players at the skill positions.

by ChiefDJ on Oct 9, 2009 3:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'm good either way

maybe get a C in the 3rd, Guard in the 4th

blammo

* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season

by stagdsp on Oct 9, 2009 3:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Agreed, even great players struggle from time to time

DeBrickeshaw Ferguson didn’t look worth his high draft choice, but he’s turning out to be a stud for a good Jets team this year. Just took a couple season’s for the line to gel. Unfortunately its gonna be the same story here in KC.

by Your_Moms_Boyfriend on Oct 9, 2009 4:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Agreed DJ

But if they drafted another tackle at 5 next year and we had bookend tackles for the next five years (minimum) I’d be COMPLETELY fine with that.

Arrowhead Pride

by Joel Thorman on Oct 9, 2009 9:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

It SHOULDN'T be necessary

That’s what confuses me about the Chiefs.

Every other team in the league gets by with not having two 1st round picks on the offensive line. Why is it the Chiefs can’t?

by ChiefDJ on Oct 9, 2009 10:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Agreed. Even less of an issue with two second rounders.

by JComp11 on Oct 10, 2009 11:35 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Two second round picks this year, I should’ve said…..

by JComp11 on Oct 10, 2009 11:35 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I think he is more suited for 3-4 DE myself

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by woodman212 on Oct 9, 2009 2:36 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

He reminds me...

of Ngata from the Ravens. I say we should only take him if we unload Dorsey for a 1st rounder.

by I_Bleed_Red. on Oct 9, 2009 3:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I think Ngata was a huge NT....

I may be wrong…

"Its going to be a challenge, its going to feel like forever, and there will be difficulties. But we will emerge on the other side of it stronger than we were when we entered." ~ Sudden

by Matt_Grbac on Oct 9, 2009 3:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

No dude...

Ngata is a DE for the Ravens. Their NT is Kelley (who is very good as well).

by I_Bleed_Red. on Oct 9, 2009 5:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'm sorry man...

I think your right. They run a 4-6 with two NTs and Ngata is one of two. My bad your right. I thought Suh was a lot bigger than I thought.

by I_Bleed_Red. on Oct 9, 2009 5:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

The only thing similar about them is they both have names that are hard to pronounce.

by wilson123 on Oct 9, 2009 5:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

This is off topic but...

Do you think Roy Williams(top cowboy receiver) being doubtful this weekend is a good sign…?

Bowe and Wade FTW.
When you fail to prepare, you prepare to fail.

by NJChieffan16 on Oct 9, 2009 2:42 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

No

They might accidentally find a real receiver in his backups. I think Roy is way overrated. Trading a 1st, 3rd, 6th and 7th pick for his is ridiculous.

by Big Chief on Oct 10, 2009 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

"him" is ...

Plus it shows Jerry Jones is as crazy and Dan Snyder.

by Big Chief on Oct 10, 2009 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Roy Williams

is out so is felix jones ithink that deffinetly helps the chiefs out a lot not having to worry about cowboys only real threat ar WR and not having to worry about felix

by bflowers24probowl on Oct 9, 2009 2:49 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Maybe we look at

Sergio Kindle – Texas for OLB
Willie Young – NC State OLB

We need an outside rush badly….
Eric Norwood – SC LB

"Its going to be a challenge, its going to feel like forever, and there will be difficulties. But we will emerge on the other side of it stronger than we were when we entered." ~ Sudden

by Matt_Grbac on Oct 9, 2009 2:50 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

It wont happen.

Theres no way Pioli spends another first rounder on a defensive lineman.

"Success is never ending, failure is never final."

by GenericBrand on Oct 9, 2009 2:56 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

hope not

unless Dorsey is traded, which I seriously doubt he will be (and I don’t want to beat that dead horse again)

* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season

by stagdsp on Oct 9, 2009 3:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

+1

Unless dorsey is traded and we get a first rounder back for him then maybe.

"Success is never ending, failure is never final."

by GenericBrand on Oct 9, 2009 3:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

he might

if we get some o line help in free agency and we desperately need a game changing DT and there are a couple coming out of college this year

by bflowers24probowl on Oct 9, 2009 3:02 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

besides he has only drafted 1 DL in the 1st round so far not like hes done it multiple times

by bflowers24probowl on Oct 9, 2009 3:02 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

We obviously don’t want to become the Lions when they drafted receivers in the 1st round I think like 4 years in a row, but that doesn’t change the fact that D-Line in the scheme we want to run is still a huge issue and Pioli didn’t draft Dorsey and Suh would provide pass rush as well.

by wilson123 on Oct 9, 2009 4:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Sweet

Bring on the 3 man, $160 million dollar, project D-line we won't be able to re-sign.

What about the twinkie?

"All praise Chiefus."

by DThomasReigns on Oct 9, 2009 3:34 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

I sense a little sarcasm.....

Oh yeah he did the little grey box thing….haha funny

"Its going to be a challenge, its going to feel like forever, and there will be difficulties. But we will emerge on the other side of it stronger than we were when we entered." ~ Sudden

by Matt_Grbac on Oct 9, 2009 3:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I hate the grey box thing

If you need a visual cue so people pick up your sarcasm, you’re doing it wrong.

by ChiefDJ on Oct 9, 2009 7:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Jeebus, relax, DJ

I only did to keep all of the newer members from thinking I was serious.

What about the twinkie?

"All praise Chiefus."

by DThomasReigns on Oct 9, 2009 10:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Sorry you hate it.

It’s a tool for cuttin’ down the number of unintentionally ruffled feathers.

No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.

by hmills110 on Oct 10, 2009 4:08 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

no they tatke whoever they want in 1st round

if suh is i would take him no matter what but i would be willing to trade him also after the pick too.

by Shutters on Oct 9, 2009 4:24 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

SUH's too light for DL.....OLB maybe but an NFL DL-man?

YOu guys are reaching for this guy at DL like Herm did Dorsey ! There’s other better OLB’s out there !

by CJ-in-2018 on Oct 9, 2009 4:44 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

It wouldn't be a reach...

this guy is definitely a top 5 player coming out in this draft. Along with Eric Berry, Sam Bradford, Okung, and Dunlap from Florida.

by I_Bleed_Red. on Oct 9, 2009 5:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

You forgot Mays

The Kansas City Chief's 2009 record will be 5-11.

by Druful on Oct 9, 2009 6:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Dorsey was a reach? Most considered him a steal, and the people that really pay attention still believe that.

by JComp11 on Oct 9, 2009 9:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Dorsey a reach? WHAT A JOKE!

Dorsey was a STEAL at #5.

Whether he turns out to be a great player or not is irrelevent. He was the best player coming out of college that year and we took him.

by ChiefDJ on Oct 9, 2009 10:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Wow CJ, You never fail to make me laugh..

He would be a perfect 3-4 DE

by darwithabar on Oct 11, 2009 12:45 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

As much as i like him,

there is noway we can have that much money invested into a D line with no real veteran leadership. And he is too lightweight to play DT in the 3-4 , he could be an end, but we already have a top 5 pick at both end spots.. so no.

by thewaffle1 on Oct 9, 2009 5:32 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Agreed

I want a moratorium on picking D lineman in the first and second round! If we’d spent just half of those picks on O lineman we’d be competing right now instead of hoping!

by Big Chief on Oct 10, 2009 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

secondary can provide good value

i think dline has more value in the draft then the guys in the secondary but having a stud safety can provide ALOT. look at the steelers, troy p dominates games alot of the time at the line of scrimmage. but i dont think that you take a safety or db in the top 5 which i know its early and i hope im wrong but we might be in that top 5 area. eric berry and taylor mays are studs though in the secondary.

by sobaski24 on Oct 9, 2009 5:44 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

So top 10 pick would need to be Left OT or D-lineman.

kinda limiting us here.
Don’t need QB, RB too high to choose, LB too IMO, don’t need CB, WR again too high, safety too high, TE too high, Olineman other than LOT too high. Getting too High:)

We Will kick at least 4 Teams Asses in 09
And Succop will be the Key in two of them.
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by Steve_Chiefs on Oct 9, 2009 6:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I like DB/WR if there's a dominant player available.

Hard to pass up a dominant O-Tackle, too. Nothin’ wrong with payin’ Albert $3 million to play inside or on the right side, if someone clearly better than Albert comes along. If Albert’s the best thing goin’, then there’s little incentive in spending another 1st-rounder on O-Line, right away. And we still don’t know how the new guys will work into the line this season.

Hard to say how good that O-Line is going to be by the end of the season. If they’re playing well, then no need to go overboard on D-Line.

Hard to say how good the secondary will be by the end of the season, but it would appear that S/CB is likely to be a high priority. A LB isn’t going to make our corners a whole lot better, but a cover corner or a dominant safety would let any LB off the street just pin his ears back all day long.

No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.

by hmills110 on Oct 10, 2009 4:56 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

or we could just have cheesecake..which is really pie!! it is I swear it!

by krayfish on Oct 9, 2009 7:50 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

I swear to god,

90% of the time I have no idea what you are talking about nor your intentions.

What about the twinkie?

"All praise Chiefus."

by DThomasReigns on Oct 9, 2009 10:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

+1

But i dont dislike it….

Krayman makes me laugh…

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by woodman212 on Oct 10, 2009 12:46 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Me too.

I didn’t mean to imply that I disliked it. I should have added my usual smiley at the end.

What about the twinkie?

"All praise Chiefus."

by DThomasReigns on Oct 10, 2009 9:15 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

No kidding

You threw me off…. :l

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by woodman212 on Oct 10, 2009 10:11 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

KRIS O DOWD

Thats who we need with one of our second picks. We take Eric Berry with our 1st pick. Take a RB or LB with our other 2nd and a G with our 3rd. I also strongly beleive that we sign Logan Mankins this offseason. I know we dont draft a receiver. Pioli is known to pick up WRs in FA and Trades. Maybe we pick up Vincient Jackson or Logan Mankins in the offseason. Honestly I dont feel we need another WR. Kris O Dowd though, is another story. We need this guy. Scouts say he is better then any C that came out last year.

by darwithabar on Oct 10, 2009 2:20 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Go back and

Draft Ryan Clady at 5 instead of Dorsey and take Albert at 15. Now you just replaced Willie Roaf and Will Shields at LT/LG and this year we could be drafting Suh. I know people don’t like these kind of posts but looking back it just seems like that would have been such a sweet set up.

by Chiefwanka on Oct 10, 2009 10:41 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Right

It’s getting to the point where they just need talent… everywhere so many holes. Suh looks like the best player in the draft so if he’s available you take him, doesn’t matter if you took 2 DL in the first round the past two drafts. DL is still a major need on this team.

by wilson123 on Oct 10, 2009 2:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I agree, We need to take the best available besides QB.

I really think we need Eric Berry, He is just as good as Suh and We need S more then DE. But I wouldn’t trade Dorsey if we did get Suh. We would just have a bad ass rotation. That would mean someone is always fresh. I agree it probably wouldnt be smart to designate 18 mil a year on your D Line, But He is a special Talent. I say it will come Down to Berry or Okung (After watching Okung today very close, I wouldnt be sad one bit). One bit of advice I would give to anyone is to check these players out. Dont just go off of popular opinion, Go on you tube or watch actual game footage to watch their play and decide. Then think on Draft day how upset you would be is your team passed up the best player in order to draft someone they needed. It doesnt sound to smart to me to draft a less talented player.

by darwithabar on Oct 11, 2009 12:52 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs