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Enemy Territory: Chiefs vs. Cowboys

Bloggingtheboys-175_mediumI had a chance to catch up with Dave Halprin from Blogging the Boys to discuss this weekend's game between the Kansas City Chiefs and Dallas Cowboys.

Blogging the Boys is one of the best sites on SB Nation so I always take note of what they have to say.  So, check out Blogging the Boys for all your Cowboys' needs.

Below is my conversation with Dave.

Joel:  Throughout the offseason, we heard a lot about DeMarcus Ware's ability but he's been incognito thus far.  What's going on with him?  Will he be a factor against a weak Chiefs offensive line? 

David:  Nobody has really been able to nail down why Ware isn't getting sacks this year, teams always pay attention to him with double-teams, chip blocks etc. so that hasn't changed.  Some opponents have taken to a lot of 3 and 5-step drops to get the ball out quickly. In the last game he didn't get the sacks, but he forced the QB to move into sacks, so he''s helping in that way. Soon, hopefully this week, he's going to bust out.

Joel:  We've been talking that the Chiefs best chance to win will be capitalizing on some Romo mistakes.  Your thoughts on the chances of that happening?

David:  Romo has not been playing well consistently this season, against the Bucs he had a great game, against the Panthers he had an error-free efficient game, we won both those. In the Giants and Broncos games he wasn't good, and the turnovers did hurt us.  So yeah, I think one of the best way to beat the Cowboys is to capitalize on any turnovers Romo creates. My hope is that he settles down and gets back to an efficient game with minimal mistakes. 

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Joel: What did the Broncos do last week that helped slow down the Cowboys rushing attack? 

David:  In the first half, not much. The Cowboys were running at will early on for good yards. In the second half, they did a better job of controlling the interior, which is the better rushing area for Marion Barber or Tashard Choice. With Felix Jones out, running to the outside was a problem, so once they got control in the middle, the Cowboys ground game ground to a halt and Romo couldn't pick up the slack in the passing game.  

Joel:  What do you see out of Junior Siavii so far?  He was the Chiefs 2nd round pick in 2004.

David:  Not much. Jay Ratliff is simply a beast at NT and we don't like for him to be out of the game. Siavii doesn't really get enough playing time to form any solid opinions. 

Joel:  What was your perception of Todd Haley when he was with the Cowboys?

David:  A tough guy, disciplinarian. It was no secret in Dallas that he and Terrell Owens didn't get along. Then again, the list of coaches on that bill is rather long. I liked him when he was here, although Parcells had the gag order on assistants, so it was hard to get to know much about him. He did seem to get the best out of the receivers we had, but beyond that I had no real fix on him as a coach.

David:  No secret, you guys are off to a poor start. What were the fans expectations of the team coming into the season. Did you see 0-4 as a reality?  

Joel:  Fans get emotionally involved in the game and forget that our first four games included two teams that were in the conference championship and one that was in the divisional playoffs.  It's a really rough start.  But combine the loss to the Raiders to the way we've lost some of these games and that's where you get the frustration.  It's really starting to boil a little bit because the Chiefs were basically blown out the last two games.  The biggest problem is that so much of this seems like a continuation of last year.  

David:  What are the problems or mistakes that are holding this team back? If you could point to an area and say, "if we could just fix that we might get some victories," what would it be?

Joel:  Offensive line.  I'll admit it - this team has a lot of holes.  But the offensive line is holding back the running game and in turn the passing game.  The Chiefs running backs have been pretty weak since the destruction of the line (after '06).  Matt Cassel has also had little time to throw which skews his development as the quarterback, which hurts the receivers....and all of those offensive troubles keep the defense on the field more often.  

Two, possibly three, spots on the offensive line are in need of a replacement/upgrade.  Add in the fact that Brian Waters is no spring chicken, and there are some serious problems there.

David:  If the line had a good day on Sunday, what are the weapons in play that the Cowboys would have to watch for? Is Larry Johnson still a serious threat? Does the passing game have any bite in it?

Joel:  It's been so long since Larry Johnson was a consistent threat that I don't think he's even a factor anymore.  His YPC and number of zero to negative runs are making him a non-factor in game plans.  

Dwayne Bowe's the one you're going to focus on in the passing game.  He's in his third year and, despite a case of the dropsies, has put up 995 yards and 1,022 yards in his first two years which, if you didn't know, is really good for a young receiver.  Jamaal Charles in the flats warrants consideration as someone to keep an eye out for because of his speed.  If he gets in the open field he can be dangerous but that's a big if.

David:  For a long time, I used to think defense when I thought about Kansas City. Is that idea outdated? What's the story on the defense this year?

Joel: The defense has really struggled for a while now.  The Vermeil years really highlighted that and continued with the Herm Edwards era.  The Chiefs are installing a new defense (3-4) so we give them a little leeway.  However, there is improvement, especially compared to last year.  It's not perfect by any means, and even some key parts are missing, but we see improvement in some areas.  It's my thought that, in the long run, the change in scheme will greatly help this defense. 

David: Winless teams are always desperate. Can the Chiefs get the victory? 

Joel:  As I wrote yesterday, I think it all comes down to Tony Romo.  The Chiefs need the Cowboys to make mistakes and I think if that happens it'll come from Romo.  Problem for the Chiefs is that they've had things go their way before and still lost the game.  I think it'll be close either way but ultimately the Cowboys should pull away and win by one score.

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He can't get any sacks this year because...

he lost Ellis…that’s the truth plain and simple..he don’t got the boy wonder helping him shine anymore

by krayfish on Oct 9, 2009 12:30 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Is that like Hali when he lost Allen....

Makes sense. Good thought Kray…

"Its going to be a challenge, its going to feel like forever, and there will be difficulties. But we will emerge on the other side of it stronger than we were when we entered." ~ Sudden

by Matt_Grbac on Oct 9, 2009 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I also dont agree with the LJ comments.

You talk about giving us a longer leash because of the tough schedule….but when LJ doesnt get 100 yrds is because he is not effective anymore….he played those tough defenses just like the whole team did.
He is still a very talented strong quick back. He should be able to get some good runs versus the boys.

"Its going to be a challenge, its going to feel like forever, and there will be difficulties. But we will emerge on the other side of it stronger than we were when we entered." ~ Sudden

by Matt_Grbac on Oct 9, 2009 12:56 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I would disagree

LJ had four games over 4 yards per carry in 2008. It’s not like this is anything new…

by Joel Thorman on Oct 9, 2009 4:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

LJ's a bellweather for the O-Line.

If they start playing like a unit and set ‘em up, LJ can and will consistently knock ’em down. He’s pretty much everything he’s ever been, and he’s more mindful of the finer points of his craft than ever before. Not sure what his ceiling is, but his average is a very simple and very telling benchmark for the effectiveness of the KC O-Line in the running game.

AND he needs to sharpen-up his protections, as does Jamaal Charles. Savage might have the best combo of quickness and physicality to do that part better than the other 2 HBs. By all measurables and how he performs in gym shorts, Jackie Battle is probably the most dangerous back on the roster. But he STILL hasn’t played a complete game in pads in regulation. If that kid can play up to his potential, HE should probably get the most touches.

No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.

by hmills110 on Oct 9, 2009 7:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

My take

I guess my issue is more with RBs in general, not necessarily LJ. It’s ALL about the offensive line. Why not just set up the line and throw whoever back there?

LJ’s not a very good pass blocker, right? I think that’s something we can agree on.

So, what exactly is he bringing to the table that another back can’t when/if we fix the line?

by Joel Thorman on Oct 9, 2009 7:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

What?

So your saying Larry Johnson is just “another back”? No way. First of all he was a 1st round draft choice even when we had Priest Holmes as our main guy. LJ has a 4.4 career average ypc. He has only played in two 16 game seasons…..still has 55 career rushing TD’s. I guess you dont remember last season when we played Denver in week 4 … 28carries 198yrds 2td…..oh but that is just “another back”. Get off of LJ he is still bad….I cant wait to tell you “I told you so” when he blows up on Dallas!

"Its going to be a challenge, its going to feel like forever, and there will be difficulties. But we will emerge on the other side of it stronger than we were when we entered." ~ Sudden

by Matt_Grbac on Oct 9, 2009 8:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

LJ is Carls guy

Vermeil wanted Palomulu. In the short run LJ paid off, but in the long term, we don’t got Dick

Negative Ghost Rider the pattern is full...

by cpa913 on Oct 9, 2009 11:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I totally agree with that.

LJ’s good at breakin’ tackles, but that 4.4 ypc of his was set with him JOGGING for 4 yards untouched behind a dominant line. Without the dominant line, everyone’s questioning his running ability. I see the same (1-dimensional) runner that I’ve always seen. Maybe a little better in protections and as a receiver than he used to be, but still pretty much just a good runner.

Lots of pretty good, all-around running backs out there, and that’d be my measure: tough, all-around football players out of a fairly large pool. So yeah, my focus would be on finding the best O-Linemen I could, and quietly enjoy winning championships while all the fans got all ga-ga over whoever happened to be runnin’ behind that line. I look back on Emmitt Smith’s HOF career and I always (to myself) think that any number of RBs could’ve enjoyed similar success in that situation.

All I was saying about LJ as a bellwether (this is the correct spelling) is we KNOW he’s at least a standard-good running back, so that we can be sure we’re not getting a false negative on the O-Line when he struggles. A flashier back at this point might actually win us more games short-term, but not address fundamental unsoundness. Might even mask it or make the team slower to address the underlying problem.

I’m one who’d be considered pretty ruthless towards RBs. I’d be a willing to pay ‘em a little better than average when they’re younger, for instance, extra incentives built into all contracts. If a 5th-rounder can start in his first season, he’s not gettin’ punked with a 5th-rounder’s salary, so players aren’t stuck biding their time, hoping to stay in one piece long enough to cash in on their 2nd contract. If they perform right away, that first year can make ’em millionaires. I thought Terrell Davis was underpaid when Denver won their 1st SB and he was overpaid when his contract expired.

I think a RB that can make a mediocre line look good is worth a lot to owners – watching a premiere RB is one of the big attractions of NFL football, but that “lot” were better spent fixing your line. A solid line allows you to plug in any number of decent RBs and be successful, even though that approach is likely to make you unpopular with the fans. But if you’re getting good production by the heroics of a single guy, you’re going to struggle in the playoffs.

No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.

by hmills110 on Oct 11, 2009 2:14 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think LJ can and will still do some damage to

other teams. This year’s team is still a work in progress. Once we get a little consistent success against someone, the flood gates will open and we will start doing some good things on offense. We can’t keep negating good plays and good series with penalties, however. I think LJ runs for over 100 yards on Sunday in front of the home crowd. Chiefs win.

by G.L. on Oct 9, 2009 1:12 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I have a feeling about this game. The Dallas Texans will Beat the Dallas Cowboys!!!

by kcrules on Oct 9, 2009 1:15 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

all about the o-line

We’re not all that different from the 03 Chiefs. The big exception is the offensive line. We still have a 1000+ yd receiver, solid QB, and 2 solid RBs. It’s all about the o-line. It’s like trying to fly a helicopter with no tail rotor. Even if everything else is in perfect condition, you’re still screwed.

by ChiefsDude on Oct 9, 2009 1:19 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

nice one

way to throw the home team under the bus to appease some idol blogger of yours ;)

by Cassel is a west coast pretty boy on Oct 9, 2009 2:24 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I believe!

If we don’t turn the ball over, I believe we can win. I would love to see the utter disarray for the Cowboys after we beat them. They will implode!

by casselreadychiefs on Oct 9, 2009 3:24 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Could Flowers and Mo-Legg BOTH get a pick 6 this week?

No better opportunity. We were robbed in 2005, it was on NFL network, we were robbed. Payback for 2005, all the great Chiefs at Arrowhead, the Priest gets his retirement ceremony, Nick in the Chiefs Hall, Cowboys backup Tight End shooting his mouth off, if we can’t beat this Dallas team under these circumstances, we can’t beat nobody!

Negative Ghost Rider the pattern is full...

by cpa913 on Oct 9, 2009 11:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's what they're sayin', E.C., and that'd take away an outside threat.

The sense of the senate is that if KC can shut down the middle, they shouldn’t have a problem stopping the other two backs.

Ordinarily, I’d say that Barber is a great enough RB that he could just as easily bust it outside, but since that quad thing, he’s not been as FAST in the open field, and trying to be FAST was when he strained that quad in the first place. It doesn’t seem to have affected his ability to keep his feet moving in the trenches, though. Still strong. Still a bowling ball.

No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.

by hmills110 on Oct 9, 2009 7:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

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