but we still wouldn’t be good. i believe we still managed to go 4-12 with him in ’07. that being said, i think we would be at least 1-3 if he were here.

….we would still be in the 4-3 and with that kind of heat coming off the corner Dorsey would get way more penetration. Tamba Hali would be benched or cut by now, the move to the 3-4 saved his career…. at least in KC.

and he really didn’t want to be here. He hated Carl.

but, What if we lost him the very next year for nothing. He didnt want to be here, Carl supposidly burned the bridge by Franchising him. Any player that gets mad when you franchise them wants to leave. Also, I do resent the part of your post when you said we didnt get any exceptional players. That is not true. Albert is a solid OT and would be an all pro LG. Also we dont know what Cottam and Charles will turn into. I dont think we should give up on players so fast. I think Cottam will be good, He will have a solid career. I also think Charles will be very good. He just needs to fix his fumbling problem which Im sure he will. I miss the 10+ sacks a year as well, but Albert will be a beast and nobody knows what Cottam and Charles will become. Lets not rule this a bad trade yet. I would take Albert, Cottam, Charles for 5 years, over JA for 1. Thats what you have to think about. Imagine him walking away leaving the Chiefs with nothing.

ok ok listen…i know the traditional answer so we don’t need to rehash the same ol same ol..but anyone who can rush the QB like he’s saving his kids from a drowning river couldn’t possibly be bad to have on your D in any scheme….that’s just being real…hell our guys now were drafted for a 4-3 and we converted them and none of our present guys are worth a shit compared to Allen …I mean not even close.

Stupidest thing ever…typical Carl P shit…he’s such an arrogant ass….thank God he’s gone…no matter what else…he’s gone…Herm’s gone…all is better.

Allen was great rushing from the back side, but Hali was gettin’ run over on the strong side. Sure, Hali got some good sack numbers, but the left side of that D was hurtin’. And they had to go QUICK at LB, rather than STOUT, because the d-backs needed help. Without a true shut-down corner or a dominant 4-man pass rush in depth, keeping Allen (and guys like Boone and McBride) would’ve left this team in much the same situation in which they found themselves during the 4-12 and 2-14 seasons that preceded.

Maybe get better on the O-Line, which would help, but some serious across-the-board talent deficits (which explains the large number of small moves Pioli made to give the entire defensive roster a massage). They had to keep reachin’ for DEs that were either too big and slow to get after the passer or too small and weak to defend the run. So those little LBs they needed to prop up the secondary were gettin’ their asses handed to ’em by o-linemen, and they were always (surprisingly to many) bit by lots of injury nicks.

Stuff like that.

when you have a player of Glenn Dorsey’s caliber available to you you take him. Can you imagine the defensive pressure generated by Hali, Tyler, Dorsey, and Allen? None of them would be playing out of place either they’d all be suited best for the job they were doing.

We’d take Dorsey in a heartbeat and trade some early picks in next years draft for a good stop gap at LT or move up into the first or second for a second tier Tackle like Sam Baker..

You DO NOT pass on a talent like Dorsey especially if he’s on the top of your board