Doesn't Sound Like Chiefs Will Pursue Tauscher, Other RTs...For Now
by Joel Thorman on Oct 6, 2009 12:58 PM CDT
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Ah, Transaction Tuesday. For a struggling team such as the Kansas City Chiefs, and a front office who has proven to be one of the most active teams in the NFL personnel-wise, this is an exciting day. Last week the Chiefs made eight roster moves within 24 hours.
(Photo Source: When will we get a picture of Ryan O'Callaghan in a Chiefs uniform?)
What will today bring?
Well, we can probably count out Mark Tauscher, former Green Bay Packers right tackle whom the Chiefs worked out last Tuesday. Head coach Todd Haley sounded upbeat about right tackle Ryan O'Callaghan's performance on Sunday.
"Our right tackle yesterday, Ryan (O’Callagahn) was a bright spot," Haley said of O'Callaghan after reviewing the game tape. "I kind of like that guy. He competed and going against some pretty good competition. He showed some signs that he might want to stick around."
If you've been following the new regime in Kansas City, then you know that's about as big of a compliment that Haley gives. He rarely mentions players by name and even more rarely publicly recognizes a good performance. He even said the NFL's best punter, Dustin Colquitt, needs to get better.
Josh Looney of KCChiefs.com said that it appears O'Callaghan has "staying power."
O'Callaghan was moved to the first team eight days ago and when asked about the promotion, Haley cited the mental aspect of the former Patriot's game.
"I think he knows who to block," he said. "That’s real important around here right now, as it always is, but probably most important now. He’s been in there and made very few mental errors. He’s a big guy who’s got some experience under his belt. He looks like he’s excited."
The Chiefs head coach sounds enthused enough with O'Callaghan to displace, for now, the idea of signing Mark Tauscher. I don't have any inside information on this but to me Haley's words indicate that a Tauscher signing is not imminent.
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if the guy can help us why not if hes good he will bring compition and depth
by redmedicone on Oct 6, 2009 1:03 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
O'Callaghan played very, very well
I watched the tape of the game focusing on him. He’s a keeper. The articles today should be what a genius Pioli is. If you watch the tape, O’Callaghan cost the Chiefs nothing and he outplayed Branden Albert.
by ChiefConcern on Oct 6, 2009 1:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
woah buck'o
we don’t take to kindly to those who don’t take to kindly to the Brandons on our team…
Time is a great teacher... unfortunately it kills all it's pupils.
by 808NaNz808 on Oct 6, 2009 1:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Man, that's good to hear about a RT on this team...
Maybe the Chiefs are closer than we thought to having the right combination of O-Linemen.
Get a backup tackle on the roster, slide Ndukwe to RG… and cut Goff.
Then, let the line play together all year, and build on it in the draft.
* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season
by stagdsp on Oct 6, 2009 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think
you’re reading too much into his comments.
Yes, Haley is happy with O’Call…
but the fact is that they are short an OT…
and there’s still an issue at RG.
Signing another Tackle, and moving Ndukwe to Guard makes a TON of sense.
Even if Tauscher isn’t 100% yet… he could be brought in, and given time to work his way into the lineup.
* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season
by stagdsp on Oct 6, 2009 1:03 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Doubt it
if were looking for backup OT’s Tauscher isn’t going to bite.
1) We have shown no promise this season
2) Tauscher is old
3) There’s a better chance he gets a contract that pays him starter money if he waits for an injury
Your looking at going to the practice squad or waiver wire, not the top of the free agent market
Time is a great teacher... unfortunately it kills all it's pupils.
by 808NaNz808 on Oct 6, 2009 1:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think Tauscher would be a backup
He could come in, get healthy, learn the offense, and take over as the starter.
O’Callaghan has played pretty well, but could easily become the backup/swing tackle.
* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season
by stagdsp on Oct 6, 2009 1:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just saying
there’s other teams that will probabl;y hand him the starting job for the season. wheras in Kansas City he’d have to fight for the starting job against one of the few players that aren’t in Haley’s dog house
Time is a great teacher... unfortunately it kills all it's pupils.
by 808NaNz808 on Oct 6, 2009 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Except that ...
… given how little time it takes to get into Haley’s doghouse, I think that by the time Tauscher signed and got on a plane and flew here, it’s quite likely that O’Callaghan could be bedding down beside a bowl of Kibbles’n’Bits.
by JacinB on Oct 6, 2009 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
if you have a young guy
that just stepped into a problem spot, did a good job and the GM and head coach oviously like him quite a bit, then why would you bring in an injured, aging vet? he’s probably gonna wanna start and get paid and if you start him over O’cal, a guy who been in here working then you might ruin his chances of being a productive player for you later.
by E.C. on Oct 6, 2009 2:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Haley should
consider moving Ndukewe inside to RG and bench Goff or try him at center since he’s played there before.
by golfbard on Oct 6, 2009 1:03 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
agreed, with Goff at center
Ndukwe was solid at RG in a fill in capacity last year with the Dolphins and was playing out of place at RT. Maybe if Goff plays between Ndukwe and Waters he picks it up a bit.. Maybe this week we’ll see Ndukwe worked back into the RG role
Time is a great teacher... unfortunately it kills all it's pupils.
by 808NaNz808 on Oct 6, 2009 1:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
was Goff still starting RG vs the Giants? I forgot to check.
by jbj8609 on Oct 6, 2009 1:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Goff is awful
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by Patrick Allen on Oct 6, 2009 1:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Goff + awful
= Gofful
For justice we must go to Don Pioli
by Sudden on Oct 6, 2009 1:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
just like
God awful
Great players dont win championships.....Great TEAMS win championships
by DT58forever on Oct 6, 2009 3:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I watched the game and then watched it again last night on the ole DVR
A couple of things stood out watching the line play exclusively.
1) O’Cal’s blocking was Grade A good to watch. Not one time in the first half did his guy make it as the primary tackler or pass rusher giving Cassel fits. This includes 91(Tuck) and 94 lining up over him.
2) Goff was exposed yesterday as a bad blocker. He seemed to “not know” whom to block on several plays and he dose not finish well at all.
3) Niswanger was getting over powered all of the first half. I didnt exclusively mean to watch him, although it became apparent when they kept powering over and through him.
4) Center and RG are big problems for now
Winning begins with Attitude - 2009 Chiefs 12-4
by Lanier63 on Oct 6, 2009 1:16 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Niswanger
was going up against Robbins wasn’t he? That guy powers over just about every center that lines up opposite of him. Still an improvement needs to be made.. I thought Pioli not drafting a center was an endorsement to Niswanger.. I guess he just didn’t draft a center
Time is a great teacher... unfortunately it kills all it's pupils.
by 808NaNz808 on Oct 6, 2009 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Niswanger is decent.
And he’s smart. He’s just too tall to be a Center.
by JacinB on Oct 6, 2009 3:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
exactly why I called for him to be tried at RT earlier this season
Winning begins with Attitude - 2009 Chiefs 12-4
by Lanier63 on Oct 6, 2009 3:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
thanks for the analysis
I didn’t get to see the game at all, so it’s good to hear your perspective.
I would think that they HAVE to be eyeing a replacement for Goff… hopefully it’s Ndukwe.
IF so, they still have to sign a T for depth.
* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season
by stagdsp on Oct 6, 2009 1:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Give me interior linemen or give me death!
"What?!?! I aint no Obama for the weed!"
-Turk McBride
by HIV 2 Elway on Oct 6, 2009 1:20 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
sorry dude
when’s the funeral?
Time is a great teacher... unfortunately it kills all it's pupils.
by 808NaNz808 on Oct 6, 2009 1:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
well if we dont do anything else with FA during the season for the Oline
Should we use both 2nd round picks we got next draft on oline and get a guy that can make an impact on offense or go D again in the 1st
by redmedicone on Oct 6, 2009 1:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm hoping for..
a saftey (I heart Taylor Mays) or linebacker with our top 5 pick. 2 interior linemen in the second round.
"What?!?! I aint no Obama for the weed!"
-Turk McBride
by HIV 2 Elway on Oct 6, 2009 1:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good lord we better not draft a safety with our top 5 pick....
Legit LT or bust
Don't Fuccop Succop
by chicks_love_chiefs on Oct 6, 2009 1:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
we already have one of those
Time is a great teacher... unfortunately it kills all it's pupils.
by 808NaNz808 on Oct 6, 2009 1:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
We need help in the middle, not on the ends. So far the majority of the pass rush has come right up the middle.
"What?!?! I aint no Obama for the weed!"
-Turk McBride
by HIV 2 Elway on Oct 6, 2009 1:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I dunno watch the game last week...
Albert doesn’t look very good at all…I’m begining to think maybe he isn’t the franchise LT we hoped he would be.
Don't Fuccop Succop
by chicks_love_chiefs on Oct 6, 2009 1:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If Albert isn't the answer at LT he is going to be a BEAST at LG.
"What?!?! I aint no Obama for the weed!"
-Turk McBride
by HIV 2 Elway on Oct 6, 2009 1:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Would be crazy
If Pioli drafts the best LT with the 1st pick, moves Albert to LG, drafts a C with the first 2nd rd pick and a RG/RT with the other 2nd rounder…we’d potentially have an incredible OL for the next 10 years. I’d hate that kind of draft, but it’d be great for the future of the org.
by jmcgoblue on Oct 6, 2009 1:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can't imagine he plans to stick around more than another two years
I don’t think all those rookies could start in their first year
by jmcgoblue on Oct 6, 2009 2:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe if we picked that high they could
look at Albert….
BUT i hope waters stays…hes the only good one we have right now besides Albert
by Wrestler189s on Oct 6, 2009 2:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Make Waters play C like he did in 2003
Don't Fuccop Succop
by chicks_love_chiefs on Oct 6, 2009 2:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
...
Top 5 pick, Albert, Waters, 2nd rounder, O-Call (if he plays well)
Don't Fuccop Succop
by chicks_love_chiefs on Oct 6, 2009 2:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Waters was the Center in 03???
Shit, I didn’t know that. That was some of the best O-line play I remember ever seeing.
by Chiefsfan1970 on Oct 6, 2009 4:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
nope, it was Weigmann
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/kan/2003_roster.htm
* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season
by stagdsp on Oct 6, 2009 4:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, i was just thinking
Rookie LT, Albert at LG, Rookie C, Waters at RG, O’Callaghan at RT
that sounds pretty daggone good to me.
When Waters leaves, Ndukwe takes over at RG, unless someone else is brought in
* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season
by stagdsp on Oct 6, 2009 2:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i agree no saftey deserves a top 5 selection
there are a few pos that can be worth being a top 5. But why bring in a LT in that pick that’s gonna demand huge money when you have a young, good 1st rnd pick that’s still making the transition from RG but has shown that he can do it at LT at a high level and should be consistant with more time
by E.C. on Oct 6, 2009 2:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
if you could get the next Troy P. or Ed Reed, you'd spend a top 5
That’s what these two are being compared to.
I don’t think it’s unheard of to draft a safety that high.
it IS unheard of to draft a RT or RG that high
* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season
by stagdsp on Oct 6, 2009 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly
those two guys are defense changing players. If those guys are going to be Reed or Polamalu, sign me up.
This team needs playmakers.
by golfbard on Oct 6, 2009 3:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
by the way
I definately not draft a RT or RG that high; never said they should. I would also not move a pro bowl player to a new position and replace him with a young unproven player as you said above. (waters to RG, albert to LG)
And do you really want 2 rookies, a third year player who just got cut and a third year player who you appearently think can’t cut it at his current position for our line? You think that sounds pretty good?
For the record, I hopeful about Albert and O’cal
by E.C. on Oct 6, 2009 5:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm hopeful about Albert and O'Call too
but, to answer your question… yes, that sounds pretty good.
Albert, Waters, Rookie C, Ndukwe, O’Callaghan sounds pretty good to me as well, though.
* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season
by stagdsp on Oct 6, 2009 5:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
now that sounds a lot better to me!
I would like to see someone else at center, preferably this year, so a signing soon would be nice, but they might not be the longterm answer so we might still have to draft someone.
I know what you’re saying though; I think we both just want to see a better line and hopefully a better team because of it.
by E.C. on Oct 6, 2009 6:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
if i could and was sure then yes i would
but you never know; a ton of college players have been compared to great nfl players that haven’t panned out. not sayin that they wouldn’t, but i think if you’re going to spend that kind of money then you have to sign a LT, QB, RB, DE, WR, LB or maybe a CB. I just think first round safties should go 12 and up. Troy was drafted 16th and Reed was drafted 24th; why weren’t they taken higher? Did all the guys picked ahead of them end up playing to their caleber? I doubt it, but there was a reason they were selected, their position was worth the pick and the pay they were gonna get equaled the position.
1 good saftey does not make a good team. 1 good QB or RB can at least make them competitive.
by E.C. on Oct 6, 2009 5:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hope it goes down this way
1st- Safety
2nd- Wide Receiver/ Kick Returner
2nd(Atlanta)- Center
3rd- Inside Linebacker
4th- Guard
5th(Miami)- Blocking Tight End
6th- Right Tackle
Time is a great teacher... unfortunately it kills all it's pupils.
by 808NaNz808 on Oct 6, 2009 1:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
this is only
if Ndukwe steps up at RG and O’Callaghan continues to ball at RT
Time is a great teacher... unfortunately it kills all it's pupils.
by 808NaNz808 on Oct 6, 2009 1:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
idk thats a lil reach of and IF
the reason i say offense in the first round is LJ is still ok but will start to decline in a couple years he is almost 30 years old im just sayin we have drafted alot of D in the first since we got LJ so a guy who can make an impact on offense couldnt hurt
by redmedicone on Oct 6, 2009 1:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
not a stretch of the imagination
filling in at RG last year Ndukwe wad fifth amongst all RG for least number of sacks give up and yesterday against the best D line in football O’Callaghan didn’t allow any solo sacks despite playing next to Goff (short for goddam offensive)
Time is a great teacher... unfortunately it kills all it's pupils.
by 808NaNz808 on Oct 6, 2009 1:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hear ya
but I think this it’s gotta go differently this time
1- BEST Player available
2-OL (best available)
2-OL (best available)
3-OL
4-ILB
5- TE/WR
6- TE/WR
I think the best situation is to somehow get another 3 or even 2 from an offseason trade and use a 2+3 and jump back into the 1rst
by KCinIL on Oct 6, 2009 1:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
thats would be good the pick trades
just me but i think lafell or spiller would be good spiler cuz he is a fast guy and knows who to run the ball and make catches and is good at KR … lafell he is a huge target and would be great on the other side of Bowe so just me but i hope one of them is the best available
by redmedicone on Oct 6, 2009 1:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
great minds and all that
I was thinking about this just last night and came up with
1-Safety (Mays or Berry)
2-ILB (who can cover)
2-C
3-WR (KR guy)
4-Pass Rush OLB
5-Guard
6-Blocking TE
It's a good thing Pioli and Haley aren't running AP or a lot of you guys would of been traded or cut for cast offs from the Pats Pulpit.
by KCporkchop on Oct 6, 2009 1:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like it, maybe swap guard and pass rush olb.
"What?!?! I aint no Obama for the weed!"
-Turk McBride
by HIV 2 Elway on Oct 6, 2009 1:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
not too concerned with the pass rushing OLB spot
Hali is the longterm answer there’s no taking that away from him as long as he keeps performing like this. Then we have Studebaker the RFA wonder.. He’s looked good in his time here and Vrabel should still be on this team next year
Time is a great teacher... unfortunately it kills all it's pupils.
by 808NaNz808 on Oct 6, 2009 1:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hali is adequate, at best
I like him, but I just don’t think he’s a gifted pass rusher…gotta give him credit for major effort though.
If Berry Or Taylor Mays is available I’d be inclined to take one of those two with the first pick. GREAT safety’s are really game changers on D..
by jmcgoblue on Oct 6, 2009 1:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
especially when were leaving the middle of our field wide open like we have been
If we take Berry or Mays our Defense will look like this
DE’s- Dorsey(1st), Jackson (1st)
NT- Tyler(3rd)
ILB’s- Johnson(1st), Belcher or Mays (UdFA)
OLB’s- Hali(1st), Vrabel (3rd)
CB’s- Flowers (2nd), Carr (5th)
S- Page (7th), Mays/Berry (1st)
That’s five first round picks and only three guys not drafted in the 3rd or higher… That should be a solid D.
Time is a great teacher... unfortunately it kills all it's pupils.
by 808NaNz808 on Oct 6, 2009 1:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
one more season after this one
then Studebaker steps in
Time is a great teacher... unfortunately it kills all it's pupils.
by 808NaNz808 on Oct 6, 2009 1:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
idk i still kinda like the idea of planning on replacing LJ cuz who else do we had that is a "feature" back
by redmedicone on Oct 6, 2009 1:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Feature back is no longer a living option in the NFl these days
what we have is a solid RBBC when LJ leaves Charles, Williams, Battle, and Savage each bring something different to the table
Time is a great teacher... unfortunately it kills all it's pupils.
by 808NaNz808 on Oct 6, 2009 1:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lol look at Adrian Peterson...
that guy isnt human…
by Wrestler189s on Oct 6, 2009 2:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
exactly
that guy isnt human…
What are the odds we find another guy like that? He and Maurice Jones Drew are the only feature backs in the league
Time is a great teacher... unfortunately it kills all it's pupils.
by 808NaNz808 on Oct 6, 2009 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not quite
I would say these guys are feature/workhorse backs (get the majority of carries for their team): Cedric Benson, Steve Slaton, MJD, LJ, LT(when healthy), Matt Forte, Ryan Grant, AP, Kevin Smith, Clinton Portis, Michael Turner, Frank Gore and Steven Jackson. All of these guys either play all three downs or are only replaced for brief rests or third down backs.
by bgrip12 on Oct 8, 2009 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Studebaker
just seems a little too ‘nice’ to be a good LB. Kickers & Punters can be nice guys, I don’t think linebackers can.
by jmcgoblue on Oct 6, 2009 1:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know
I would love it if in the middle rounds they drafted some really quick pass rush only guy that could come in on third and long and rush opposite of Hali when they have only the two down linemen.
It's a good thing Pioli and Haley aren't running AP or a lot of you guys would of been traded or cut for cast offs from the Pats Pulpit.
by KCporkchop on Oct 6, 2009 1:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Are you crazy?
Lol, Taylor Mays is a good ass Safety (probably will be better than troy)…but we have bigger problems. Picking a WR or a kick returner is doubtful too (early in the rounds).
1. RG or RT
2. Inside LB
2. Center
3. Pass Rusher
4. Safety.
5. WR
6. TE
by Wrestler189s on Oct 6, 2009 1:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
you're the crazy one, with all due respect :)
Safety IS a big need… the Chiefs are getting torched in the middle of the field.
Also, you can’t draft a RG or RT with a top 10 pick.
1 S
2 RT
2 WR/ILB/OLB (whatever is available)
3 C
4 RG
5 WR/ILB/OLB (whatever is available, and hasn’t been filled in prior rounds)
6 WR/ILB/OLB (whatever is available, and hasn’t been filled in prior rounds)
* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season
by stagdsp on Oct 6, 2009 2:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
assuming
r we assuming that tank is our NT of the future? Ron Edwards isnt going to play there forever. just something to think about.
by MountainManMike on Oct 6, 2009 4:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, I wouldn't be shocked if they draft another NT
hopefully, it’s later rounds, IMO
* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season
by stagdsp on Oct 6, 2009 4:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
When your RT doesn't allow a solo sack or tackle against the best DL in football
and every team passes down the middle of the field keying off of your dinosaur safety you have to adress your areas of need..
1. RG/RT- See the first paragraph for why I don’t think a RT in the first is a good idea. RG in the first (especially because we’ll be drafting in the top 10) is insane, you can put a Millen stamp on that for inept drafting. Especially when we have Ndukwe who was fifth amongst all RG’s last year in least amount of sacks given up.. Moreover RG’s can be found in later rounds
2. ILB- This could happen, but it seems Haley likes Belcher enough for us not to waste what will basically be another first on an ILB. With us short a solid #2 option, we could pick up a WR that could also handle returning roles as well here
2.C- agreed, the last of the top teir centers will be taken in the late first, where Atlanta should be falling this year
3.Pass Rusher- I’m assuming you mean OLB. We’ll still have Vrabel for this year (perceivably) and Studebaker is looking like he’s the future of that position. The top teir of ILB talent should be finishing around this pick as well seeing as LB isn’t a pressing need in the NFL. But a pass rusher wouldn’t make me mad at all
4. S- We already have a mid round safety with tons of potential but is very raw.. His name is Dajuan Morgan.. That’s prettuy much the ceiling of talent you’ll find in the fourth so that doesn’t make sense to me. Starting guards even in their rookie year, can be found in the fourth
5. WR- take everything I said about the fourth and replace Safety with WR and Dajuan Morgan with Quinten Lawrence.. Doesn’t make sense
6. TE- No argument seeing as sixth rounders are junk picks and are used on TE’s and Kickers. we already have one of them.. I wouldn’t be opposed to a RT here though
Time is a great teacher... unfortunately it kills all it's pupils.
by 808NaNz808 on Oct 6, 2009 2:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
on the C note
it should read late second not late first.. EDIT BUTTON PLEASE!
Time is a great teacher... unfortunately it kills all it's pupils.
by 808NaNz808 on Oct 6, 2009 2:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well shit...
I just dont know my drafts then lol. I only thought to draft a RG high because i didnt know Ndukwe was that good. Why the hell isnt he starting then? The reason why i think your pick for the WR is a little off is because we drafted Lawrence and i guess Haley has high hopes for this guy. If he can learn to catch the ball better than he will be a good KR/WR….but with Charles back there i dont see that as an area of need as of now.
I still think we need a pass rusher because Vrabel is decent but i dont think Studabaker will step up and be a starter after he leaves.
by Wrestler189s on Oct 6, 2009 2:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
We Don't Need Lawrence
we’ve got Copper….
Put this in your pipe and smoke it:
1. Chiefs will be at least 8-8 and vie for division champs
2. DJ will break out and finally have his year
3. LJ returns to form
4. DBowe drops will reduce
by kcchiefsfan72 on Oct 6, 2009 4:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Please Tell Me
that you received my hint of sarcasm. I, for the life of me, still wonder why he retained that piece of fecal matter…
Put this in your pipe and smoke it:
1. Chiefs will be at least 8-8 and vie for division champs
2. DJ will break out and finally have his year
3. LJ returns to form
4. DBowe drops will reduce
by kcchiefsfan72 on Oct 6, 2009 4:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Crazy is using a top 5 pick on a RG
when there are quality starters at that position in rounds 2-3 and passing on a palymaker the likes of Troy Polamalu or Ed Reed when there are only a couple of them in all the NFL.
It's a good thing Pioli and Haley aren't running AP or a lot of you guys would of been traded or cut for cast offs from the Pats Pulpit.
by KCporkchop on Oct 6, 2009 2:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
no no no
You don’t draft lineman as high as we will be drafting unless its a LT we have that I say go sexy pick and get mays/berry/bryant and build the line in the 2nd 3rd and 4th we with our first second we could probably get norwood who is a very solid coverage LB and get a RG/C with atls 2nd and the same with the 3rd you. You build your team through the middle rounds and get the players that take you over the top in the 1st.
by BiiG_C on Oct 6, 2009 2:19 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
I'm fine with O'Call at RT for now
but I’m going to have a real hard time understanding what they are thinking if they continue to play Goff at RG. He has been really bad and we now have a guy on our bench who was the starting RG for a playoff team last year (then again, so was Goff). It just seems like Ndukwe would be a better fit. The knock on him is he’s slow so he doesn’t pull very well. However, he is great at the point of attack and doesn’t allow sacks. Sounds a lot better then Mike “I get blown off the line every play” Goff.
It's a good thing Pioli and Haley aren't running AP or a lot of you guys would of been traded or cut for cast offs from the Pats Pulpit.
by KCporkchop on Oct 6, 2009 1:43 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
And do we know yet what we got for the Thigpen trade?
by Wrestler189s on Oct 6, 2009 1:59 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
we probably won't know until a little before the draft
but I’m thinking the Thigpen trade will be a swap of fifths and Ndukwe/Alleman to KC. Thigpen to Miami.. I’m not upset at all about that, it’s a fair trade for both sides
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by 808NaNz808 on Oct 6, 2009 2:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tauscher worked out for the Packers today.
Not surprising after the 9 sacks last night. I think it is time to create competition for Niswanger and Goff as those two have basically been handed the job. Id like to see ndukwe at guard and you cant convince me that there isnt a better center at home waiting for work then niswanger.
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by GenericBrand on Oct 6, 2009 3:35 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
2010 Draft
We need to focus on getting 3 future starters and a wide receiver. There are some good WR’s slated to be free agents this offseason, but they’ll likely be franchise or we won’t spend the money on them (especially if the year is uncapped). There are some very promising free agent linebackers that I think we could bring in in FA. We need to draft a new interior line and hope to find a WR in there somewhere for it to be a productive draft. If one of the top tier safeties falls to us at #1, and he can be the next Reed/Polamalu, there’s no reason we SHOULDN’T take him, regardless. Those guys are the best players on their teams.
by HTrayne on Oct 6, 2009 4:02 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I meant "3 future starters" on the offensive line.
That means 3 out of the first 4 picks should be spent there, IF we don’t sign any starting caliber free agents.
by HTrayne on Oct 6, 2009 4:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
good points
I wouldn’t lose sleep if they got starting-caliber RG, C, LG with the 2,2,3 picks
as long as they got the playmaker S in the 1st….
that’d be a good start to a draft.
But, getting more talent at LB would be smart, along with WR and TE
the frustrating part is that Pioli doesn’t listen to us… so all of our speculation could be proven wrong anyway, and likely will be :)
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* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season
by stagdsp on Oct 6, 2009 4:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
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