Cold Hard Truth

by AK_47 on Oct 6, 2009 12:38 PM CDT Comment 17 comments

Scott Pioli and Todd Haley have not been perfect and for the most part I'm happy with them. Here are the cold hard reasons for why we should still be deeply concerned:

Player Developement:

Brandon Albert: Coach Todd Haley has repeatedly said he has done EVERYTHING the coaches have asked him. Yet he has regressed. That is clearly a reason for concern with the coaches. Personally, I think they had Albert lose too much weight but who knows. Big fail here.

Jamaal Charles: Can no one teach this guy how to hold onto the ball or does he just need to hit the gym and beef up those arms? Either way its a strength and conditioning factor or coaching factor. Or he could just be dumb...

Derrick Johnson: This and D Bowe I feel is just a poor use of talent problem more than anything...

Drafting and Player Acquisition:

The Patriots never just acquired players they were familiar with so why is Pioli leaning on this factor so much? If this continues into next season I'm going to be concerned.

The Draft:

Considering where we were selecting you would have hoped for more impact players. Right now only Succop and Jackson are contributing regularly. For a team that is lacking so much talent that is really concerning. Sure we hit a home run it seems on Mays and Belchor, but on a playoff team these guys would be backups. Personally I also really like Jackson, but he just doesn't strike me as a winner or a leader. Vrabel so far is my pick up of the year for the Chiefs. (This is not looking into the future)

I know you can't judge a draft till 2-3 years down the line but I'm disappointed we couldn't get more impact players given the quality of talent on this team. They weren't Pioli's scouts so I'll give him a pass on this one. (BTW I'm tired of giving out passes and being understanding. There shouldn't be excuses.)

Matt Cassel: I like him. I like him a lot. I just don't think we should have given him such a large contract before playing a snap. He's not an elite qb and he never will be. I don't think it was worth us tying ourselves down to him for the long term when we had so much cap room to test him out on a franchise tag anyways. This could be the Achilles heal and fall of this regime...

Coaching. I like Haley's no nonsense approach. Reminds me of Bill Self. What does concern me is that Haley is not nearly as personable as Self. Haley is in a little over his head. I'll give him time to get settled though ($%#%! Having to being patient again. Great). What concerns me more than anything is Haley thinking our running attack would be our best asset when in fact its hurting us most on offense right now. That deep oversight has hurt us a lot and being able to find our identity.

Chiefs = The Royals right now. Not spending all the cap and giving away our best players

Chiefs = The Raiders right now. Lots of stupid penalties and finding ways to lose games late (Raiders game. How ironic)

(Anyone else he wonder what if we still had Jared Allen and Tony G. Not impressed with the return and you know we would be a completely different team right now if they were here. Jared Allen is a future hall of famer and so is Tony G. You don't give those up. Carl focused way too heavily on the "off field issues" thinking too much about "doing the right thing." PIoli did what he thought was right and while I don't disagree with it, he better damn well get something good with that pick or else hes going to have A LOT of angry Chiefs fans)

This is a FanPost and does not necessarily reflect the views of Arrowhead Pride's writers or editors. It does reflect the views of this particular fan though, which is as important as the views of Arrowhead Pride writers or editors.

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the draft

people i know will not agree but since we have two 2nd round picks should we go for Oline in the 2nd and in the 1st get a guy that will make a impact on offense …. Spiller or Lafell

by redmedicone on Oct 6, 2009 12:56 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

I know this is way too early

But we need a (1) NT (2) RG (3) MLB (4) WR (5) TE (6) C (7) OLB to replace Vrabel (maybe Studebaker but I like him better as a strong back up)

Hopefully we can get a NT and a OLB and maybe a deep threat WR in FA. The rest we got to have faith Pioli can get us some talent next year in the draft and then have Haley actually develop it.

More DE depth is also needed. Gilberry is a place-mat.

I don't want no Yo-Yos

by AK_47 on Oct 6, 2009 1:16 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Not Sure that I agree with...

…your summation of our draft.

I think we did reasonably well, let’s review…

1. Jackson is a starter — will continue to get better & better!
2. Franchise QB (Cassel) & Vrabel (another starter) for a 2nd round has to be rated as a huge success.
3. Alex Magee, backs-up Dorsey — not a huge success, but provides depth.
4. Donald Washington — 3 or 4 on depth chart, not a huge success again, but more depth.
5. Colin Brown — Practice squad, so jury is out, maybe eventual depth, but gotta call this a fail for now.
6. Quentin Lawrence — 3 or 4 on depth chart for a 6 rounder — I’d call this a success, with lots of potential.
7a. Javarris Williams — fail
7b. Jake O’Connell — 4 on depth chart — probably a fail
7c. Ryan Succop — huge success.

So, out of 9 potential draftees, we got 10 players and the following:
- 4 legitimate starters (44% success rate)
- 4 legitimate back-ups for depth (44%)
- 2 potential failures (Williams & Brown)

Personally, I think we’ll realize in the next year or two that this year’s draft was a huge success. So far, its looking pretty good to me and I didn’t even include the rookie FAs that we picked up…

"Every day is an evaluation and if you’re not out there how can we depend on you? If you’re out there and you don’t know what to do, how can we depend on you?" Accountability -- Haley-style...

by Chief_Elmo on Oct 6, 2009 1:48 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs

Couldn't have said it better myself.

by Zimmy on Oct 6, 2009 1:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'm sorry but

when you reanalyze this draft Vrabel will be gone and Jackson and Succop will be the only starters. That is excluding Cassel. Mays and Belchor will be back ups (hopefully).

You might be happy getting depth out of that draft, but our starting talent is weak. We don’t need quality back ups right now.

I don't want no Yo-Yos

by AK_47 on Oct 6, 2009 2:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Jackson will get better and better

but I can’t ever see him being a high impact pro bowler. Same with Cassel. Succop I actually think has the best potential of the three to get to the pro bowl. This team needs more high impact players.

I don't want no Yo-Yos

by AK_47 on Oct 6, 2009 2:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Sorry, but I disagree...

Jackson is not ever going to be a sexy pick. What he is going to do is be a steady anchor for our defense, which will make our LBs better. He will be the guy who ties up OL, so the LBs can make the sexy plays. The same holds true for Dorsey, Magee, Tyler & Edwards.

If you are/were thinking that he was the second coming of Dwight Freeney or Jared Allen, then you will always be disappointed…

"Every day is an evaluation and if you’re not out there how can we depend on you? If you’re out there and you don’t know what to do, how can we depend on you?" Accountability -- Haley-style...

by Chief_Elmo on Oct 6, 2009 2:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I think you're misunderstanding my point (I actually really like Jackson)

The draft was the least of my concerns of all the points I made in the above article. LIke I said, they weren’t Pioli’s scouts so I’ll give him another year. I just wish we were getting more of a contribution and impact from our picks THIS year to help us change around the culture. It wasn’t a bad draft. Just not the draft we needed. I like Jackson a lot. I think Magee will be a great backup and I LOVE Succop. The draft is a minor grip for me that we didn’t hit more on our picks when we couldn’t afford to miss at all.

I don't want no Yo-Yos

by AK_47 on Oct 6, 2009 3:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

No way can you say O'Connell and Lawerence are legitimate back-ups

Lawrence has the potential to be a quality back-up and thats it. O’Connell won’t be on the roster next year. Neither will Brown

I don't want no Yo-Yos

by AK_47 on Oct 6, 2009 2:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I don't know about that

I think Brown has a shot at being solid depth if nothing else. I thought he looked pretty good at guard.

by bh13 on Oct 6, 2009 5:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Cassel is the ?

the draft really was not bad just not the quick upgrade we hoped for. Piolli is known for his ability in the Trenches and I think with additions of Ndukwe and O,Callagahn we made strides in that department on Offense.
D-Line most definatly improved and LBs are more talented than what we had a year ago.
I’m staying in the NOW, don’t want to talk anymore about what could of been or what could be. Lets stay in the NOW no matter how difficult to stomach it may seem.
Haley is our coach and I for one am VERY happy to have him.

by kcchiefstd on Oct 6, 2009 5:06 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Albert is interesting...

But sophomore slumps are somewhat common…for whatever reason.

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by woodman212 on Oct 6, 2009 5:15 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Additionally

Brandon Albert: Coach Todd Haley has repeatedly said he has done EVERYTHING the coaches have asked him. Yet he has regressed. That is clearly a reason for concern with the coaches. Personally, I think they had Albert lose too much weight but who knows. Big fail here.

I’ll give you some of that on letting sacks go. I think, though, we can’t pin it on that when he’s constantly getting false start penalties. Holding penalties—meh, maybe some.

I fear that we’ve been too homer on Brandon Albert and that he’s not just-outside an elite OT.

-cw

Watching the 2009-2010 Chiefs 12 hours ahead of you (in Taipei, Taiwan).
Twittering my every move. Don't act like you're not even slightly interested.

by webby37 on Oct 6, 2009 7:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

WOW! It's great to have someone else wake up!

Now I don’t feel so alone. Man it’s been like beating dead people back to life to get anyone to stop already with the bullshit excuses after excuses for this team. I would rather deal with reality and talk honest instead of ALWAYS finding excuses.

I’ve been finding excuses for 32 years now. ENOUGH!! I’m out of patience and handing out passes too. And seriously I don’t give a shit if Puff the Magic dragon leads us to the superbowl nor do I give two shits how we win. I dont care at ALL!!

Cassel is not in a sophomore slump…he is not and I know it hits a nerve but he is NOT an elite QB. Period. FOr those who say he is…all I ask for some proof. He played on an 11-5 team last year coached by the greatest coach in the game today IMO. I think most QB’s could have thrived in Hoody’s system. Pioli better recognize this ain’t Hoody’s shit here anymore…

Super post…very accurate…and for once very real! It’s not a bitch post like so many..it’s a fact post…and you sir are a worthy adversary.

by krayfish on Oct 6, 2009 5:23 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

You would know about Bitch post...

Thats all you write….lol jk

"Its going to be a challenge, its going to feel like forever, and there will be difficulties. But we will emerge on the other side of it stronger than we were when we entered." ~ Sudden

by Matt_Grbac on Oct 7, 2009 4:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Belcher is a less aggressive Mays, Mays brings the wood when he hits but plays so aggressive that he finds himself out of position. Belcher seems to be around more plays only because he isn’t flying around as much out there, which can be good and bad. Neither are terribly talented.

by RamX21 on Oct 6, 2009 6:14 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

No more excuses....

It’s time to start looking like a pro team, I’m not asking for a win this week, but please, could we start showing signs of improvement. That comes down to coaching, or a lack there of.

by 12t on Oct 6, 2009 7:19 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs