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Piolli approval POLL

 I personally do not think we got better this offseason as a team, but I want to see what the rest of AP thinks starting with the draft

1st Rd Tyson Jackson  (I think he will prove worthy)

2nd Rd Matt Cassel trade with Vrabel (until the new contract for Cassel not to bad but not the move i think was best)

3rd MaGee ( If we had not taken Jackson good move but the need at O-Line bad pick altough I like MaGee)

4th Washington (We did not need a CB terrible move we needed more help on o-line)

5th Colin Brown (Not helping this season so will wait to see about Brown I liked the pick.

6th Lawrence ( I like his speed but we drafted him to be our KR/PR LETS SEE IT)

7th Javarris Williams (Already stacked at RB do not know what this pick was about.)

7th O'Connel (Decent pick will see if he stays on roster for three years)

7th Succop (By far are best pick of the draft)

So 2009 draft pretty much a complete failure hope I'm wrong though.

Poll
Has Piolli made the team better?
Yes
60 votes
We are the same quality
14 votes
No but you think he made the right moves
26 votes
No and he made the wrong moves and this team regressed
16 votes

116 votes | Poll has closed

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by Patrick Allen on Oct 5, 2009 4:13 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Yes

I wanted to share my opinion this way and once again check if we still think the draft was good to us

by kcchiefstd on Oct 5, 2009 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

well you know what they say

it takes about 3 years or so to tell about a draft.

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by Patrick Allen on Oct 5, 2009 4:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The comments section at the bottom of each post is for your opinion on the poll.

by JComp11 on Oct 5, 2009 6:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

+Eleventy Billion

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by woodman212 on Oct 5, 2009 6:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wow, I think you might be a little premature.
So 2009 draft pretty much a complete failure hope I’m wrong though.

A complete failure? If you count the trade of the second pick that means we have 4 starters (Cassel, Vrabel, Jackson, Succop) plus 2 more playing significant time (Washington and Magee). You don’t draft players hoping they will be great week 4 of their rookie year, you draft them hoping they will contribute over several years.

I think you should have a little patience. Pioli is a good GM and will work to continue and improve this team.

by saskwatch on Oct 5, 2009 4:16 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Uhhh...yeah.
I think you should have a little patience.

This.

We’re 4 games in. Chillax.

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by KaloPhoenix on Oct 5, 2009 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not unless you back it up

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by woodman212 on Oct 5, 2009 5:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

OK

Chicago Knox his performance alone,
Minn. Percy Harvin his performance alone
Oakland Louis Murphy and HB wants he gets alittle more comfortable
NY Jets Sanchez
Denver Knowshon Moreno
 Those teams all have one player who has made a bigger impact than all of are draft picks so far.

by kcchiefstd on Oct 5, 2009 5:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

are you really comparing offensive skill positions to a defensive lineman?

i’m guessing you are a guy who isn’t happy unless the offense scores a ton of points. due to the apples to oranges nature of your comparison, i award you no points and fart in your general direction

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by kcguy on Oct 5, 2009 5:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

if your talking about DRAFT CLASS

then what are the other 5-7 guys on those teams doing…..my guess is nothing

by BIG_CHIEF18 on Oct 5, 2009 6:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Minnesota

Loadholt starting RT

by kcchiefstd on Oct 5, 2009 6:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

well there is 1

the point is….overal draft not 1 player and there

by BIG_CHIEF18 on Oct 5, 2009 6:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Again, you have to give more than their names and positions to back up your argument.

by JComp11 on Oct 5, 2009 6:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You have shown absolutely nothing other than a list of names. Don’t make a new post. It’s a waste of space. Like 90% of the current fanposts.

by JComp11 on Oct 5, 2009 8:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

ON th D Line

When McBride got drafted we did not know wether he was DT or DE so why could he not play DE in the 3/4 I think our coaching staff missed out on a GEM with him.

by kcchiefstd on Oct 5, 2009 6:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

mcbride wasn't big enough to play DE in a 3-4 right?

and apparently not good enough to move to OLB

by BIG_CHIEF18 on Oct 5, 2009 6:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

LOOK at the Donkeys

All anyone said all offseason was they don’t have the right personel for the 3/4 they are undersized. All I have to say about that is 4-0 and #1 D in the NFL Speed, Technique and Talent matter a WHOLE lot more than size as Denvewr is proving.

by kcchiefstd on Oct 5, 2009 8:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I still...

don’t get how they are stopping the run. They have 3 scrubs on that defensive line. Dummerville just decided to have a coming out party this year and they invested heavily in the secondary. I still their D is over-rated.

by I_Bleed_Red. on Oct 6, 2009 12:10 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

No...he was right, actually

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by woodman212 on Oct 5, 2009 7:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yea....

But that isn’t what is being argued…And you can’t compare offensive skill players to a lineman…That is a complete non-argument..

The issue being discussed is that you can’t find 5 teams that have started rookies 16 times this season so far…

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by woodman212 on Oct 5, 2009 5:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

true

but he is trying to say the offensive skill positions are more valuable than a stout d lineman. i don’t think anyone else has as many people playing full time roles from this years draft as we are.

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by kcguy on Oct 5, 2009 6:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Game is won in the trenches...

They are not more valuable ever….by any means…If anything, that PROVES the point that you have to build the trenches and then EVEN rookies can be plugged in and play successfully later…

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by woodman212 on Oct 5, 2009 6:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Idk if you are new here or not, but it takes a little more than a couple of words like “his performance alone” to back up your arguments.

Can you provide some actual evidence or do you expect us just to accept their names as proof that you’re right?

by JComp11 on Oct 5, 2009 5:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

those guys, kcchiefstd...

are all solid skill players.

I would have liked to have Knox in the 5th, for sure.
Murphy has shown potential

But, this whole place would have flipped if Sanchez or Moreno were taken at #3…. those would have been mistakes, IMO.

People here think it was a mistake to bring in Cassel, who has proven more than Sanchez… with a 2nd round pick, considering the OL trouble… how happy would we be with Sanchez and an even bigger risk behind the same OL?

Or Harvin, with his off the field issues and lack of a “true position” at #3?
He’s a great returner and wildcat/slot guy… but worthy of a #3 pick?
I doubt it.

Jackson is a foundation type player, you can’t expect flashy numbers or ESPN highlights…

but, most people agree that this team needed to be improved on BOTH lines.

* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season

by stagdsp on Oct 5, 2009 6:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree with that

Monroe is the one I wanted

by kcchiefstd on Oct 5, 2009 6:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Plus

This entire site would have flipped if we drafted Sanchez and he threw the THREE interceptions he did yesterday for us. It was wise for us to get an experianced QB, given our track record at developing franchise QB’s

by jrcnc on Oct 5, 2009 6:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Add INDY to that list

Seriously..Chiefs had a mediocre draft at best

by CALIFAN1986 on Oct 5, 2009 5:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

it's way too early to apply that tag...

I like some of Indy’s picks… namely Brown and Collie

But, the Chiefs needed to focus on that D-Line, and did so. (Jackson, Magee)
They needed help at LB and QB… and did so with one pick. (Vrabel, Cassel)
They needed more speed, and got it… even though they are projects (Washington, Lawrence)

* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season

by stagdsp on Oct 5, 2009 6:04 PM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

I had said before, that this draft except for Jackson

was all about the future. All of the other draft picks will get some experience this year and hopefully be ready to start next year or at least be a big contributor.

Chiefs set an NFL record,most roster changes in 1 season.

by bringbacktheglory on Oct 5, 2009 7:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

and Succop

I agree, though.. lots of developmental guys

kinda surprising, considering the immediate needs

* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season

by stagdsp on Oct 5, 2009 8:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Your right I forgot about Succop

I could I have did that,

Chiefs set an NFL record,most roster changes in 1 season.

by bringbacktheglory on Oct 5, 2009 8:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

How could I have did that*

Chiefs set an NFL record,most roster changes in 1 season.

by bringbacktheglory on Oct 5, 2009 8:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

0-4 as far as the league is concerned

preseason wins and losses are meaningless. you know detroit went 4-0 in preseason last year? how’d that workout for them?

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by kcguy on Oct 5, 2009 5:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1

all of these “cumulative” loss totals don’t mean a thing.

The team is 0-4 at the moment.

a win is sorely needed.

* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season

by stagdsp on Oct 5, 2009 5:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

well said, saskwatch

* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season

by stagdsp on Oct 5, 2009 4:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think I would have taken this a little more seriously

had he just spelled the mans last name correctly. :(

Winning begins with Attitude - 2009 Chiefs 12-4

by Lanier63 on Oct 5, 2009 4:17 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Approval Poll....PiOLLi....get it....even though it wasnt meant that way...

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by Matt_Grbac on Oct 5, 2009 4:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

it's like Ravoli

man I’m hungry…

by Ren on Oct 5, 2009 6:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

With all the chances we had to improve our O-Line

If that has been the problem for three years we sure did not do much to get better.

by kcchiefstd on Oct 5, 2009 4:19 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

except replace 40 percent of it

what were all the chances we had? we could’ve drafted one high but do you remember our 31st ranked defense from last year? shouldn’t we want to improve that?

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by kcguy on Oct 5, 2009 5:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

agreed, kcguy

They did make some attempts at improving the line…
so far, it’s not 100% better, but I am tired of hearing “did nothing to improve”…

* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season

by stagdsp on Oct 5, 2009 6:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

nope.

and I bet it didn’t.

I think they have a longer term plan in place, he may have just been a placeholder until they got
“their guys”

who knows, though

* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season

by stagdsp on Oct 5, 2009 8:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

the draft was not a complete failure, by any means

but, it surely wasn’t perfect.

Jackson will prove to be a good pick, I believe.

Magee was a good value there, as was Washington… and Pioli was clear that they’d take BPA over PON… they wanted good “football players” not necissarily the players WE think fit the team’s need the best….

I think Brown was a reach, most said he would have been there by the later rounds… but I’ll reserve judgement till he actually plays.

Lawrence has good potential, but I’d really like to see him on the field.

Williams- I can see why they drafted a RB, considering they were probably unsure of whether LJ would be here.

O’Connell… not sure about this one

Succop, obviously is working out well

Also remember Belcher is part of that class, along with Walters. They almost drafted Belcher, but got him without a draft pick as a FA… so he could turn out to be a steal.

* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season

by stagdsp on Oct 5, 2009 4:27 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

if you judge a draft by # of starters acquired...

Cassel, Vrabel, Jackson, Succop are all starting, and playing as well as anyone on the team.

Magee, Washington, Lawrence, O’Connell will all play a fair amount

That’s not too shabby.

IF you’re judging a draft by who else was still on the board that could be better…well, then I think you have a better argument…

I could see a different pick in the 3rd/4th/5th rounds that could have made a difference.
But, hindsight is 20/20

* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season

by stagdsp on Oct 5, 2009 4:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The only Offensive lineman taken in rounds 3,4 and 5 that is unavailable right now...

Is Vasquez from San Diego and they are far from sold on him yet, we’ll see once he’s recovered from injury.

"Success is never ending, failure is never final."

by GenericBrand on Oct 5, 2009 4:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah, he's the only bona-fide starter that I know of

but, there are other positions in those rounds that would be nice to have

Johnny Knox, round 5 WR/KR
Jasper Brinkley, round 5 ILB
Julian Edelman, round 7 WR/PR

off the top of my head

* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season

by stagdsp on Oct 5, 2009 4:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

With you on Brinkley.

He will be a stud I believe.

I remember Dawson to Taylor, Kenney to Carson, and Blackledge catching the snap in his facemask. Seen it all...

by BinSC on Oct 5, 2009 4:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You can't judge this draft at this time...sorry

And the “Pioli didn’t address the Oline crap” has been beaten like a dead horse…

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by woodman212 on Oct 5, 2009 4:42 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

No way to tell yet.

We still don’t really know if last year’s draft was any good.

I also disagree that we are “loaded” at RB so Williams was unnecessary. I think we are very thin there, unless we are content with mediocre talent. Johnson is on the downhill, Charles can’t hang on to the ball, Savage and Battle are backup talent. Not exactly set. Same with DB’s. Our two starters are okay, but after that? Not so much.

I am willing to declare the draft a success just based on Succop though! Finally, it appears we addressed the kicking problem.

I remember Dawson to Taylor, Kenney to Carson, and Blackledge catching the snap in his facemask. Seen it all...

by BinSC on Oct 5, 2009 4:51 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

agreed

RB is not a strength of this team at this point, IMO.
And, at the time of the draft, it was very unclear whether LJ would be on board

DB is still a BIG question mark at this point.
Flowers and Carr are pretty good… but they make plenty of mistakes.

Leggett, Brown, Page, Morgan, McGraw… plenty of talent, not enough consistency.

* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season

by stagdsp on Oct 5, 2009 5:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not a terrible draft...

Tyson Jackson is our DE for years to come…a cornerstone on Defense…that is nice for a 1st round pick. Our 2nd round pick got us our starting QB and one of the best player/coaches in the game.
I dont agree with Magee….That was too high a pick for a guy that wont start. I would have went LB….or OL. Didnt like the Javarris Williams pick….we have plenty of RB.

I just hope Pioli doesnt value Team over Talent….what I mean is that a group of Talented guys can be coached into a team…but a team of less talented guys wont be as good….although more cohesive.

"Its going to be a challenge, its going to feel like forever, and there will be difficulties. But we will emerge on the other side of it stronger than we were when we entered." ~ Sudden

by Matt_Grbac on Oct 5, 2009 4:55 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Flowers Carr Leggett

Without knowing wether Dorsey is really good last years draft was excellent.

by kcchiefstd on Oct 5, 2009 5:09 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

and i think i could be a good rapper

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by kcguy on Oct 5, 2009 5:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

B-Rich

I agree.. he could be a good lineman, as could Colin Brown.

You HAVE to have those developmental guys on the roster… someone with upside that MAY work out and become a starter.

It bodes well for long term depth on the OL.

In the short term, though… they need to figure some stuff out :)

* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season

by stagdsp on Oct 5, 2009 6:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

As far as the players we got starting

We are not showing improvment over last year so that does not mean much to me.
As far as what O-Linman I would of picked up in rounds three trough five prbably none RD 1 def would of taken anothe OT
would not have traded for Cassel would have taken another O-Lineman 2nd rd
I like the Magee pick would have prob made that one then
 Rd 4 would of taken WR/KR or TE don’t really know what was still avail there
Rd5 LB
 Rd 6 anything best player available
7th Cannot argue Succop pick up

by kcchiefstd on Oct 5, 2009 5:16 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Somewhere in there would of liked to see Nate Davis

as I think he has all the tools of a good QB to be developed

by kcchiefstd on Oct 5, 2009 5:17 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

he may have been a steal

* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season

by stagdsp on Oct 5, 2009 5:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well

stagdsp I agree with you on most topics. I really don’t think I’m to far off on this one but am I really being to harsh early. This was a pretty good draft year and we have not shown much on the field. It has relly been depressing to me so far. I wanted Monroe at #3 because he and Albert have worked together and wanted to see Albert at LG although that has been Waters spot for years I would of liked to see Waters move to RG and a C or RT in the second rd.

by kcchiefstd on Oct 5, 2009 5:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah

I wanted Monroe at #3 as well…
I’ve said before that I wouldn’t have hated Monroe in the 1st, Magee in the 3rd…

I liked Curry, too

But, Jackson should end up being a VERY good player.

* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season

by stagdsp on Oct 5, 2009 6:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

would this not of looked better than what we have

LT Monroe LG Albert C Niswanger as top two Center prospects were off the board in the first. RG Waters RT Beaty in the second rd

by kcchiefstd on Oct 5, 2009 6:07 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Isn't it Monroe that has been unproductive so far?

He is riding the pine in Jacksonville if I remember right…

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by woodman212 on Oct 5, 2009 6:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Next to Albert

Would of made transition much easier as players already have chemistry together.

by kcchiefstd on Oct 5, 2009 6:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hypotheticals?

The point is if he has the talent he would be playing already on a team that needs lineman that badly…

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by woodman212 on Oct 5, 2009 6:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Albert would help? Because he is playing so well this year?

Chiefs set an NFL record,most roster changes in 1 season.

by bringbacktheglory on Oct 5, 2009 8:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Luigs

we could of got him at C in the 4th as I liked the Magee pick up in the third it would of looked like this
1st Monroe
2nd Will Beaty RT
3rd Magee DE
4th Luigs C comp
5th Brinkley LB
6th Lawrence I like that pick
7th Succop was needed

by kcchiefstd on Oct 5, 2009 6:18 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

And we continue to have a terrible DLine.

Everybody will admit it takes longer to develop DLinemen. Doesn’t it make sense to draft them first and get the whole process started BEFORE working on the OLine?

by JComp11 on Oct 5, 2009 6:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not to me O-Line most important

Secondly I think Mcbride could of produced as 3/4 DE and Babin should of been Retained as he could of been productive as 3/4 DE
Also Magee has looked just as good if not better than Jackson when he has been on the field.

by kcchiefstd on Oct 5, 2009 6:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well...they take less time...

DL now so when we get the OL they will be developed…That is the idea..

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by woodman212 on Oct 5, 2009 6:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Or

Boone Edwards Tyler Magee Dorsey and the Rookie FA we brought in that made the team would be just as effective as what we have.

by kcchiefstd on Oct 5, 2009 6:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Stellar lineup.

by JComp11 on Oct 5, 2009 6:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sarcasm?

We Will kick at least 4 Teams Asses in 09
And Succop will be the Key in two of them.
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by Steve_Chiefs on Oct 5, 2009 6:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes. Trying to hold back the anger that’s kept me from posting much the last week or two.

by JComp11 on Oct 5, 2009 6:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Im trying to not be too grouchy also...

I feel your pain…

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by woodman212 on Oct 5, 2009 6:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

thx would LOVE to be proved completly wrong

Just not seeing it yet and did not want to wait tell 2010 to see improvment.

by kcchiefstd on Oct 5, 2009 6:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Figured that’s the reason why all the old timers like you have been MIA lately.

by JComp11 on Oct 5, 2009 6:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well the youngsters need to step up

on AP and the Chiefs.
Anger doesn’t solve anything :)

We Will kick at least 4 Teams Asses in 09
And Succop will be the Key in two of them.
" Think and talk positive football off the field." Hank Stram

by Steve_Chiefs on Oct 5, 2009 9:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

And in three years Dorsey and Jackson will be dominant and those guys will still be what they are now.

by JComp11 on Oct 5, 2009 6:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

And in three years Dorsey and Jackson will be dominant and those guys will still be what they are now.

by JComp11 on Oct 5, 2009 6:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The D and The O will all come together with the Qb and the Coach

We gotta Faith

We Will kick at least 4 Teams Asses in 09
And Succop will be the Key in two of them.
" Think and talk positive football off the field." Hank Stram

by Steve_Chiefs on Oct 5, 2009 9:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

and what is everyone going to do after this years draft?

Yes a few teams have had a player or two step up and provide right away. But looking back at past Chiefs drafts, this one to me was better. So next years draft, if we dont instantly draft that O-lineman or LB are we going to call the ENTIRE draft a wash? Succop alone has proved he is worthy. Jackson is getting on the job training, and doing it against three pretty good offenses and quarterbacks. The next few weeks are when we will see if he warranted the #3 pick! They have played some of the best offensives and now have a stretch of not so good to mediocre teams, they will take this experiance gained and move forward with a few victories.
To me the schedule was a blessing in a disguise for the Chiefs. We will build momentum to close the year, starting this weekend, we will be able to evaluate further positions and address them in this years draft. Just dont be to quick to pull the plug and consider it all a wash, did i forget to mention Succop?

by jrcnc on Oct 5, 2009 7:00 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

good points

I think people will second-guess until the OL looks stellar.
So, whether that happens this season, in the draft, in FA, in a trade, whatever…

THEN, people can second-guess the S, LB, WR, and whoever else is drafted, and complain that they didn’t address some other need.

Arm-chair GMs are a dime a dozen :)
(me among them)

* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season

by stagdsp on Oct 5, 2009 7:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

First off ALL opinions aside..

it IS too early to judge. WAY too early. I hate to say it but next year is still a growing year like it or not. That’s the way it goes.

I think he did SOME really great things in the offseason. I think it’s impossible to tell really. I mean next year is uncapped. UNCAPPED. We can’t blow every penny on hundred million dollar players when we don’t even know if we have a team worthy of them playing for…

You don’t put a NEW flag pole in front of a condemned building do you?? I thought not. So I’m glad we didn’t go ape shit with the spending. I am just so disappointed at the lack of improvement.

I see the Poll shows most people think we’re improved but I don’t see it. We have God awful stats and the only one that even matters in the end is the ever elusive “W”. Which in our case stands for “When”? WE played NY last week which stood for Not Yet!!

by krayfish on Oct 5, 2009 7:35 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Nice

We Will kick at least 4 Teams Asses in 09
And Succop will be the Key in two of them.
" Think and talk positive football off the field." Hank Stram

by Steve_Chiefs on Oct 5, 2009 9:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

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