Tracking The Chiefs Problem Areas: Week 4 - What The Heck Are We Doing?
Five seconds into the game and I was already cursing.
For the first time in several years I seriously considered not watching a Chiefs game after Jamaal Charles fumbled the opening kickoff that quickly put the Chiefs in a 7-0 hole.
It wasn't the play itself. It was the culmination of a sense of hopelessness that had been building since preseason. The feeling that despite the front office change, despite the coaching changes, despite the scheme changes, despite the personnel changes, despite the braggadocio of building a winner and changing the culture and winning now; that the Chiefs really hadn't improved much from last year or even last week.
I quickly shook it off and reminded myself that I loved the Chiefs no matter what. Like a man that keeps buying Kentucky Fried Chicken even though its always greasy and nasty because fifteen years ago it was delicious. "Maybe this time it will be good" he always says...
It wasn't all bad. Well, OK, it was mostly all bad. But not humiliatingly so. At least, not as humiliatingly as it could have been after the way it started out. Actually rather than short good stretches followed by long bad stretches as has been typical of the Chiefs this year, it was medium-longish mediocre stretches followed by short but shockingly bad ones.
Problem areas from last week:
- Penalties
- Poor Offensive Line Play
- Inability To Run The Ball Effectively
- Poor Pass Coverage By Linebackers
- Questionable Play Calling
Penalties - As I watched the game I got the sense that we were doing better on penalties, but looking at the game stats, we still had 7 for 55 yards, which is WAY too many. I thought last years team was bad, but the 2009 Chiefs are on pace to have 18% more penalties than last year.
Poor Offensive Line Play - For much of the game the offensive line was finally getting running lanes opened up and LJ was having some nice runs. It seemed to me that the time Haley spent in the second half of the Eagles game working on the run might be paying dividends. Through the 3rd quarter Johnson was gaining 4.5 yards a carry. That was up until the point that Haley got hung up on that STUPID shotgun draw on every play despite the fact that A. Pierce of the Giants was coming through unblocked waiting for the handoff on nearly every play. But don't let that stop us! Call the F-ing thing again and again!
Pass blocking was spotty at best. Cassel was sacked 5 times with 7 QB Hurries. There were times though, when the pass blocking DID hold up and it almost appeared that Cassel didn't know what to do with himself.
Inability To Run The Ball Effectively - As I said above, I thought maybe this problem was beginning to be solved. When running in a standard I formation with the fullback, LJ was getting some good chunks of yardage. Why Haley decided to abandon that, ESPECIALLY on the goal line is beyond me. Those little shotgun draw plays should be going to a RB with ability to make defenders miss that can start and stop on a dime, not to a basher like LJ that needs to get a running start. This was a coaching failure.
Poor Pass Coverage By Linebackers - Continues to be a huge issue. Especially since Pendergast insists on playing lots of zone instead of blitzing. Of course when they do blitz they rarely get to the QB. But rushing three defensive linemen and dropping all your linebackers, who are all terrible at coverage by the way, is a recipe for the disaster we saw today.
Questionable Play Calling - This really has me riled up today. From the very beginning trotting LJ out in the wildcat I was pissed about the playcalling. LJ is not the right kind of back for the wildcat. If they insist on running it (and I don't like it) they should have Charles back there so he can dip and dive and find the hole. LJ simply doesn't have that ability.
The IGNORANT overuse of the onside kick at the beginning of the second half is another call I hated. If you're trying to get back in a game, putting an opponent that you have thus far been unable to stop near the 50 yard line for starting position isn't the way to do it.
How about the goal line play calling? I was having an absolute FIT. After Ryan's big catch and run, it took the Chiefs TEN plays (including penalties) to score a touchdown. Absolutely ridiculous. And did they do what Haley says he wants the teams identity to be and what had been working up to that point and stick Cox and LJ in the I formation and run it down the Giants throats? NO. He tries to get cute with some shotgun draws that the Giants were all over and a QB draw with a smattering of low percentage passes.
If Haley wants this to be a tough running team, he needs to stick with it when it comes time to score. He outsmarted himself because he certainly didn't outsmart the Giants.
Haley is supposed to be a disciplinarian coach. Yet his team is one of the most penalized teams in the league and is putting the ball on the ground all over the place.
Don't give the line of bull that he doesn't have very good players. While that may be true, the players we have this year aren't much different than the ones we had last year yet we are on pace to have 18% more penalties. Whatever the message is they are sending to the players isn't getting through and in fact seems to be making it worse.
Haley is a rookie head coach and he is calling games like one. Hopefully he gets it together soon because the limited talent on this roster doesn't have much of a window for victory against any other NFL team in the league. It doesn't need to be hampered by a rookie head coach that is outsmarting himself.
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What's crazy
is our athletes this year are in sooo much better shape than last years roster. It’s made a beans bit of difference though.
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by KansasCityShuffle on Oct 5, 2009 12:17 AM CDT reply actions
Hmmm Nice follow up...
1.On the penalties it was really 5 for 35 yards. Cant really count the 15 yarder on Page because everyone in the world knows it wasn’t a penalty and a penalty on a 2 point convert isn’t really anything.
2.On the offensive line I mostly agree. Was an improvement for sure. My feelings on the draw play are mixed a bit. It worked great on 2-3 plays in the first half but it seemed like the second half they blitzed a heck of alot more and they did for sure in the 4th quarter. Ill agree 100% that Cassel didn’t seem to know what to do when he had extra time and he seemed to be waiting for the perfect pass to open or something or was indecisive.
3.The running game looked pretty good to me up until the 3rd quarter, seemed to be a promising step forward. The only explanation I can think of for the Shotgun plays was to conserved clock incase it got stuffed but that might be a reach.
4.LB coverage wasn’t a glaring problem for me today. Passes to the TE were limited again and really the only guy catching the ball was Steve Smith. Not sure why we didn’t just stick a body on him permanently because it was clear where Eli was going the whole game and wouldve made them 1 dimensional in a hurry.
5.I liked the onside kick call. You have to remember Haley was being accused all week of giving up at halftime and now you’re saying he tried too hard to get back in the game? If it hadnt been for one guy on the Giants paying attention it was our ball. Haley called a good game for the majority and you can only really question a handful of calls.
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Onside Kick Call
I liked the onside kick call. If it had worked and we had gone down and scored a TD (big if)…everyone would’ve been calling the play genius. I think we haven’t been taking enough risk around here and I personally appreciated Haley going for it on fourth down in the fourth quarter (even with 10 minutes left) just because we were down by so much and needed lots of points to even make a difference.
I do agree on the discipline side of things. I feel like he hasn’t reigned in the penalties that have killed several huge plays this year. Additionally, I think someone needs to sit Charles down and tell him if he doesn’t hold onto the fucking ball (and then run with it), he’s going to be benched for the rest of the year.
Great comments also about the mismanagement of LJ…in the Wildcat, out of shotgun, etc. LJ is a bruiser, not the type to be using in these situations.
I liked the onside as well
instead of throwing the D back out there we tried to get the ball with a short field…Honestly if it worked it wouldve been praised, I love it.
I liked the onside kick and some risk taking
this team needs a spark, I would like to see more risks taken.
What do they have to lose?
LJ isn’t good out of the shotgun, I think we saw that last year.
I’m just not sure where he fits in anymore
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by Ridiculous Matt on Oct 5, 2009 12:45 AM CDT reply actions
questionable calls across the board
O, D, and the officials. The unnecessary roughness against page was COMPLETE bullshit..but Haley’s playcalling in the red zone was nothing short of mystifying. This whole delayed draw to LJ out of the shotgun buisness had me pulling my hair out.
Especially when he did had some success with it, then did it again on the very next snap when the D was totally expecting it & made all the adjustments. Haley did take some shots though, and it looked to me like the pass blocking was holding up a c**thair better than last week.
Steve Smith was WIDE OPEN the ENTIRE game…I cannot believe we didn’t have him blanketed in double coverage. I was encouraged by the turnovers our D forced early on even though it made absolutely no difference in the outcome. It does seem like this D goes for the ball before the tackle, and that makes them VERY succeptible to the big play.
If they are going to go onside early on like that, they need to work on it a little more in practice, because they didn’t look too sharp.
Unfortunately the Chiefs suck right now and there’s nothing we can do about it. I’ll reserve calling for certain coaches heads until we lose to the teams we should beat.
Well technically weonly had six penalties
It seems even the officials agree the Page call was a bad one. Obviously six is still too much, but not too concerning. The penalties didn’t seem to be a drive killing (or sustaining) this time.
I would say we did better in pretty much all areas compared to last week, but that isn’t saying much.
One thing that is (even more) frustrating though looking back is we should have had one of the Brandons stuck on Steve Smith like glue. Have as normal of coverage assignments as possible otherwise, but have somebody ALWAYS on Smith. Had we done that, it might have really changed the game.
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In response to your opening sentence...
I only watched til the first drive of the second half…and was sick of it…(it is DVR’d)
Partly cuz I was furious…partly cuz I knew I needed sleep to drive home late tonight…
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Regardless....
I shall now refer to the Chiefs as the Queefs.
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I have been calling them that for years!
by 5280ChiefsFan on Oct 5, 2009 8:38 AM CDT up reply actions
You nailed it brother.
That’s all sad but true. VERY sad, but VERY true. We are poorly coached and poorly prepared as a team. This isn’t a team you can compare to Vermeil’s 1-6 team in the early 2000’s.
Vermeil’s coaching was stellar. This play calling and coaching is desperate and uncoordinated. I’m very disappointed. Not at our record. I didn’t expect much really. There were way too many what if’s before the opener to have believed we actually had a chance to be a playoff contender this year anyway.
So, I’m not bummed about the record we have. I’m bummed about the poor quality of a team that we have. It’s bad right now folks, real bad. I’m just going to keep believing and hoping and praying. I’m a fan, that’s what I do. But boy has this been a let down so far this season. Wow!
Good posts, folks.
I caught some talk on one of the radio stations last week and Grunny was saying that the day after Haley fired Gailey in the preseason he collected everyone’s playbooks and decided he was going with a whole new offense. If that is true then that explains a lot of the confusion and offensive penalties that have been occurring. It explains why we are still hiring and firing guys from the team weeks into the regular season. It also means we have a head coach that would rather be the offensive coordinator than the team’s leader.
Truly, the last time I saw a Chiefs team look this disorganized was the year Ganz “crashed”.
Well, nobody ever said it would be easy being a Chiefs fan, did they?
the new playbook thing, yeah ... when Haley fired Gailey he tossed out the whole scheme, the terminology, the playbook, etc
and the remarkably idiotic thing is that he did it with 2 weeks to go before the season opened
but then it gets “better” if you think about it, because after all, he fired Gailey and then eventually Pioli sent Thigpen to Miami because hey, this team si NOT going to use the Wildcat or any kind of spread formation
right?
(raise your hand if your head is spinning)
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by chicks_love_chiefs on Oct 5, 2009 10:15 AM CDT up reply actions
yah but in the long term
it could have been a great move. not saying it was just that it could have been. only time will tell as it’ll take some time for the new system to gel.
I only partly agree
Ganz team did fall apart, but that O ranked 22 out of 28 teams. Herm’s O in 2007 and the first half of last year was worse. The Chiefs finished 31st in O in 2007. And we didn’t have an offense to speak of last year until Gailey went to the Arrowspread in the second half of the season. This team looks better than either of those teams on offense, we’re probably on par with the Ganz team earlier in 88. I’m assuming we will get better as the O works together and our competition drops off a little.
Riddle Me This, Batman: What genius knows his player will fumble but will put his player into an obvious fumble situation anyway?
Seeing as how the major criticism of Charles is that he has the tendency to fumble the ball, doesn’t it make sense to NOT put him on kickoff return duty? isn’t that like knowing that your kid is liable to wreck your ‘Vette but instead of giving him the old station wagon you give him the’Vette … again … and of course you don’t even need to wait for that phone call because you hear the “crunch” when he backs out of the driveway
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Personally I completely disagree with using Jamal Charles more often. It seems like the more he plays the more he fumbles. You cannot start a game against an opponent like the Giants and fumble the opening kickoff at your own 20 yard line. If you say the play he did not have the ball protected at all, he was hit in the legs and the ball came out. His upside imo just is not worth it anymore. Also, until the offense figures out how to convert a third down we are not going anywhere. With the exception of Steve Smith being openon just about every play, overall I thought the D did fairly well. Think about, 1st possession they start at the 16 yard line, then we attempt an onside kick to start the second half which fails and the start at the KC 42 yard line. You can’t give Manning that kind of starting fiels position and expect the to win. One of the other things that has been pissing me of for quit a bit is penalities. It’s bad enough to have our players flagged for stupid shit, but penalities like the Jarrad Page PENALIZED 15 yards for Unnecessary Roughness is total BS. There was absolutely no helmet to helmet contact on that play, clear hit to the shoulderpads. Also calls like the pass to Bobby Engram to NYG18 for 12 yards which was marked a yard short of the first down marker and had to be challenged before being reversed are getting old. There was a play later in the game after that one that I thought for sure would draw us a penality but didn’t. The D does need to do a better job of stopping 3rd down conversions. I really think the D is pressing so hard atm knowing they can’t make mistakes because the O is struggeling so much. Oh, correct me if I am wrong, but doesn’t a screen pass require lead blockers? There were a couple to LJ yesterday where he was hit as soon as he cought the pass.
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There seems to be a lot of hair pulling. I’m bald now and its only been 4 games. Well it seems our play calling sucks, our defense calling sucks. The one good thing was LJ running from the power back position, and please no more delay draws to larry in the red zone. I’m going to out to buy a hat to cover my bald head.
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