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Chiefs Have Converted Only Two of Last 27 Third Downs

You read the headline correctly.  Dating back to the last possession of the Oakland Raiders game, the Kansas City Chiefs have converted just two of their last 27 third down attempts.

2. Of. 27.

I just finished watching the game since I was traveling, but before I fired up the DVR, I checked the third down statistics since that's been one of many achilles heels for Chiefs.  

There's not a whole lot of analysis here.  It's just a terrible statistic.  First and second down incompletions and one to two yard runs are the culprit but you would think even sheer luck would give them a few extra third down conversions.

Revolving door quarterback teams like the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and Cleveland Browns have a higher third down percentage than the Chiefs.  The Chiefs are 9/51 on third downs, which is 18% and last in the NFL.  And they've had their opportunities to make things happen.  Only 10 teams have more third down attempts than the Chiefs.

Today, the Chiefs were 2/15 on third downs in a 27-16 loss to the New York Giants.

The rushing and passing yards aren't very good which means the total yards aren't very good either.  In fact, only the Raiders are averaging less yards per game than the Chiefs.

Of all the statistics for the Chiefs, this one is the worst in my opinion.  It's the ultimate drive killer (in fact, it might be the definition of drive killer).  

In the first half, the Chiefs shortest third down conversion came on a 3rd and 7.  In the second half, it was a 3rd and 2, which of course they didn't convert.

After the game, head coach Todd Haley tried to see some glimmer of hope with the Chiefs success on fourth down.

“They rushed the ball for too much against us and we were awful on third down again, which has to improve. Now, we converted some fourth downs which I think fall into the same category [as converting third downs], in my philosophy.”

Ideally, though, the Chiefs don't attempt any fourth downs.

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if Haley called better plays our players would magically start executing them.

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by Patrick Allen on Oct 4, 2009 6:48 PM CDT reply actions  

Great Point!!!!

The coach has nothing to do with starting 0-4. It’s all the players….22 guys off the street could be 0-4

Don't Fuccop Succop

by chicks_love_chiefs on Oct 4, 2009 6:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

The players aren't executing

Haley isn’t free from blame. No one is. But realistically, the Chiefs just don’t have the players to compete with Super Bowl contenders.

They should have beat the Raiders though. I think you will see this team improve and when they do, it will be because the payers execute the plays that are called. No amount of play calling can make Rudy Newswinger block.

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by Patrick Allen on Oct 4, 2009 7:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's true

A 2-14 team with all new personnel from top to bottom opens it’s season with 3 of 4 games against SB contenders. In any generic scenario that doesn’t sound like a recipe for a good start. The past two weeks have been tough because the team has looked like crap, and there’s really no excuse for that…even against these great teams.

Oh, and isn’t it nice that the Broncos beat the Cowboys today? Good to give them a wakeup call just before playing KC….that just made the day even worse.

Anyway, we still have 12 games left against the easy stretch of the schedule…if we go 6-6 in this stretch I guess it can be considered a success. On the bright side, this team now knows where the standard is.

by jmcgoblue on Oct 4, 2009 7:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

6-6

that’s it, keep up the positive thoughts

I personally think they’ll be fortunate to win half that … but hey, never know

Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisiton!

by upamtn on Oct 4, 2009 7:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well

the O-Line has played against 3 of the best DLs in the NFL…I figure they can only look better from here. Hope I’m not wrong….

by jmcgoblue on Oct 4, 2009 7:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

"they can only look better"

they sure couldn’t look much worse

Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisiton!

by upamtn on Oct 4, 2009 7:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

Look at the Broncos...

They’re 4-0 but I still say they arent a 4-0 quality team. Thing is though for a transitiioning team and you get to play against trash for the first 3 weeks of the year you can build confidence in your guys and get the bugs out of your schemes easier in preperation for tougher competition.

"Success is never ending, failure is never final."

by GenericBrand on Oct 4, 2009 7:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

We get to get the bugs out of our systems and gameplans...

Against 3 of the top probably 5 teams in the league. Guarantee you if we get three Raiderweeks in a row like Denver and then play the Eagles, Giants and Ravens and we look much better. Not saying we win them all but there would be more confidence, better execution and they’d be more mentally prepared for those games.

"Success is never ending, failure is never final."

by GenericBrand on Oct 4, 2009 7:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

How about if the freaking receivers

would actually catch the freaking ball when it’s on their hands. There were at least 5 or 6 of these that were outright dropped today.

Air Cassel - approved for takeoff

by kabrink on Oct 4, 2009 7:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Right along with

the third down thing is the passing thing when you are an eyelash from the endzone on first down——-ridiculous

by route 66 on Oct 4, 2009 6:55 PM CDT reply actions  

Its obvious...

Revolving door quarterback teams like the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and Cleveland Browns have a higher third down percentage than the Chiefs.

…that QBs are not the critical factor in games. It is the play of the offensive line to create holes for those 4-5 yard gains on 1st and 2nd down. We can trace almost every problem on offense to a young and inexperienced offensive line. There may be some talent there, but it still needs to develop. Some fresh blood from the draft next year should help.

by chiefsandcigars on Oct 4, 2009 7:06 PM CDT reply actions  

Yep

the WR challenged Giants still do fine. Why? O Line.

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by Patrick Allen on Oct 4, 2009 7:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

O'Callagahn...how did he do all things considered?

It was his first start and he won’t face tougher competition…

by FrankPitts on Oct 4, 2009 7:09 PM CDT reply actions  

Play Calling

I’m sorry but the play calling stinks.I think Haley doesn’t see the whole pix,field whatever.He makes little to no adjustments at half time.Of course we looked better in the 4th quarter.We were down 27-3 & the giants were not pressing as much.Better play calling & some continuity will go along way to make this team better.Also I’m sick of all the changes & I’m sure the players are too.Who the hell can just let go & play the game when they’re afraid that 1 mistake & their gone?

John Soellner

by chiefs63 on Oct 4, 2009 7:09 PM CDT reply actions  

Better rewatch the game...

The Giants actually pressed more when they were up 27-3 then they did at any other point in the game. How do you think we ended up 4th and 27 on the last drive?

"Success is never ending, failure is never final."

by GenericBrand on Oct 4, 2009 7:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

sigh

Sounds like a similar stat to our games won. 2 outa the past 28?

by DuctTapeMessiah on Oct 4, 2009 7:09 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

Front Line Failure

We have to improve our front line….what’s with Pro Bowl Waters today? I’d agree that Haley needs to pass the play calling baton to someone else. 1 or 2 yard line and we don’t run LJ once? Pathetic.

by KC Chiefs Fan in MN on Oct 4, 2009 7:15 PM CDT reply actions  

I agree...

with not running it up the middle. They would of stuffed us everytime. I have no doubt in my mind.

by I_Bleed_Red. on Oct 4, 2009 8:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Its all in execution...

Blame the coach and playcalling all you want but the plays being called in are not being executed properly. The line held up a little better today but it seems like the more time Cassel had the more he was overthinking and waiting for the perfect pass. The running game through three quarters was actually pretty good today but they Cassel and the Oline need to execute better. Its either the line not giving him enough time or Cassel not getting the ball out on time and they need to find a balance.

"Success is never ending, failure is never final."

by GenericBrand on Oct 4, 2009 7:17 PM CDT reply actions  

Offesive line needed asap

we cant build on anything untill we get this fixed —Scott pioli wake up and look around you

by The_New_KC_Chiefs on Oct 4, 2009 8:00 PM CDT reply actions  

+1 He probably doesnt notice it

How many new Olineman have come through this team or tried for us this year?

"Success is never ending, failure is never final."

by GenericBrand on Oct 4, 2009 8:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

hey, Pioli's a GENIUS and that's why he was hired ... can't you tell?

we’re halfway to winning the Super Bowl already … look at how much Pioli has improved the team …

1)

2)

3)

and that’s just for starters …

Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisiton!

by upamtn on Oct 4, 2009 8:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

You...

definitely get the 2009 hater of the year award.

by I_Bleed_Red. on Oct 4, 2009 8:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

march 1st 2010

cant come soon enough -—— o-line rebuilding starts here

by The_New_KC_Chiefs on Oct 4, 2009 8:03 PM CDT reply actions  

just curious why it didn't start with the draft in 2009 ...

if anyone knows, I’d love to hear

Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisiton!

by upamtn on Oct 4, 2009 8:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think you could say that the Defense was everybit as bad as the offense coming into

this season (lines). I don’t think you can rebuild both in the same year. We chose d-line first.

by vincent2668 on Oct 4, 2009 8:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Who would...

you have taken? There wasn’t an offensive lineman worthy of that #3 overall.

by I_Bleed_Red. on Oct 4, 2009 8:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

and Jackson was...

really looks like it!

Don't Fuccop Succop

by chicks_love_chiefs on Oct 4, 2009 8:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Dont worry.

He was the best 3-4 DE in the draft and was gone at #9 if we dont take him Some people just argue for the sake of arguing.

"Success is never ending, failure is never final."

by GenericBrand on Oct 4, 2009 8:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

If last years team and coaches would

have lined up against the same teams we played this year, I don’t know that the games would have been any different.

by vincent2668 on Oct 4, 2009 8:30 PM CDT reply actions  

'(^___^ )'

Regardless, I shall now refer to the Chiefs as the Queefs.

by mr_dizzy_dean on Oct 4, 2009 8:43 PM CDT reply actions  

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