King: 'I believe LJ will be back with the Chiefs'
by Joel Thorman on Oct 31, 2009 8:44 AM CDT
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Peter King of Sports Illustrated appeared on 610 Sports yesterday afternoon and touched on the Larry Johnson situation with the Kansas City Chiefs. He is not reporting anything at this point but made a guess on what would happen with the settlement/appeal and LJ's future with the team:
King believes there will be an agreement on a settlement between the two sides as early as today.
"I would expect that sometime today (Friday) probably," he said, "or maybe tomorrow, that there's going to be a settlement in this case announced. The reason is that I don't think the Chiefs want to take it all the way to the end and I'm not sure Larry and his agent, Peter Schaffer, want to take it all the way to the end, nor does the league want to drag this out."
King also believes, as many of us do, that there's no way LJ plays in the Chiefs next game, November 8th, against Jacksonville. He cites the lack of preparation time as a reason.
He also touches on a topic that hasn't been a focal point but isn't because of the slurs LJ used. He says the player attacked the fans, which one of the 'Do Not Do' rules of professional sports.
"I also think that one of the things that really got the team," he says, "was the fact that he sorta maligned the fans in talking about the $5 an hour guy, 'Go back to your $5/hour job' or whatever. One of the reasons they're doing this is they want to be supportive of their fans because they feel as much as anything else he was lighting into the fans with his reactions over the last few days."
After the jump, King addresses whether LJ will play for the Chiefs again.
King believes LJ will indeed suit up for the Chiefs again this season.
"I don't think it's going to get that far," when asked if a settlement will mean the end of LJ in Kansas City. "This is just my guess, but first of all, I think one thing you don't want to do when you're establishing a new team, is give players on the team who might be dissatisfied with where they are, you don't want to give them a blueprint with a way to shoot their way out of town."
Certainly a slippery slope indeed. What's the balance between disciplining a player for actions the team deems unacceptable and "giving in" to a player that's unhappy?
"I do believe that Johnson will be back on this team, probably after the Jacksonville game, and that he probably will play again," he said. "In a perfect world if contracts weren't guaranteed I'm not sure that would be it. Surely, the Chiefs don't want to pay Larry Johnson two-and-a-half, or however many millions of dollars they owe him for the rest of this year, to go home or play somewhere else.
"I think probably, if I had to guess right now, he'd be back after that Jacksonville game and he'd be on this team for the rest of the year."
This sorta meshes with what we've been hearing from LJ's agent, Peter Schaffer. He spoke with ESPN.com's Bill Williamson on Friday night and said that LJ being released as part of the settlement "hasn't come up."
There you have it. Most suggest that no matter what happens, LJ will never suit up in a Chiefs uniform again. King and Schaffer believe otherwise.
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Deactivated each week,
means you’re on the team right?
by Bra on Oct 31, 2009 8:49 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
He says play
“I do believe that Johnson will be back on this team, probably after the Jacksonville game, and that he probably will play again,” he said.
by Joel Thorman on Oct 31, 2009 8:53 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The operative word is... Probably
“probably will play again”… nothing definitive in that statement.
by ravenhawk on Oct 31, 2009 12:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
King may be right
It is amazing how many people are so incensed with LJ right now, and never want to see him on the field again. And on an emotional level, I’m right there with them.
But it’s not that simple for the Chiefs. Let’s be realistic. The team is at least a year away from being a winning franchise, and King is right: you can’t let other players see that if you want off the team, you can get off the team.
That’s why I think that in the end, LJ will be back. If he is, I don’t think he’ll be deactivated for every game, as some have suggested. IMO, this would cause LJ’s agent to file a grievance. So I’m guessing that Pioli and Haley are hitting their knees every night, praying that Charles, Savage or Smith can show us something against Jacksonville, which gives them justification for moving Johnson back on the depth chart.
Even that course, though, is fraught with peril for the Chiefs. If LJ is dressed and on the sidelines – but gets only a few carries a game – he’s going to be a ticking time bomb, and we might have to go through all of this crap again.
The bottom line is this: there is no ideal solution for the Chiefs.
by RDOGuy on Oct 31, 2009 9:07 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Your last line said it all
As well as this one:
Even that course, though, is fraught with peril for the Chiefs. If LJ is dressed and on the sidelines – but gets only a few carries a game – he’s going to be a ticking time bomb, and we might have to go through all of this crap again.
That’s the slippery slope I talked about. What’s too far? How do you show you won’t handle this? How do you stop others from doing it?
by Joel Thorman on Oct 31, 2009 9:29 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
well the first thing that should happen
is that LJ should be banned from talking to the media. tell him “it’s for his own good” or “to keep him out of trouble.” put someone else out there. Colquitt?
by TDubb on Oct 31, 2009 11:33 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I fail to see how we couldnt hate him...
and be angry…
he has a long long list of being absolutely absurd. hes averaging 2.7 YPC, while his backup is averaging 5. Worst season ever for a RB, that has NO effect in the pass game, and cant block?
toss in a bad attitude, attacking the coach, the fan base…
what else is left for him to do? how many more weeks of bad locker room chemistry is needed…all it takes is ONE….Its why vermeil cut leslie O’neil when he was still a decent player.
by SDChief on Oct 31, 2009 12:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And if that bomb goes off?
It simplifies matters for the Chiefs. He’s on thin ice that the Chiefs daren’t break, much as they might want to. If LJ throws a tantrum and starts stompin’ around like a child, let him worry about dragging himself out of the freezing water. Behind THIS O-Line, playing LJ is, ironically, the worst punishment they could inflict!!!
No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.
by hmills110 on Oct 31, 2009 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Anyone that manages employees
Knows that firing an employee is not that simple. Sometimes its better to be patient and let things run their course; you don’t want to let emotions dictate and end up costing you where time and money is concerned. Yes sometimes you got to let a person go and cut your losses. But this should only be a last resort – after all other options have been exhausted. Ensure the action taken is in the organization’s best interest; and I think KC will.
by chiefsfan62 on Oct 31, 2009 9:41 AM CDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
well that part is true
I realize cutting LJ doesnt make sense, but to me neither does playing him, so if they feel its right to keep him, fine, but he better not be out there running that football
by SDChief on Oct 31, 2009 12:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
How about
making him play special teams? Make him play on the kickoff team or receiving team (but as a blocker). Truth is I think they would have liked to trade him at the beginning of the year but knew they wouldn’t get anything for him. And with Haley’s “clean slate” program they took a chance, but it looks like that chance is over. He won’t be a Chief next year. And I think we’ll see an improvement in the rushing game next weekend against the Jags. The other backs seem to remember how to “hit” the hole and go forward, LJ wants to dance around too much and wait for something that is not there instead of powering through.
by Jason Austin on Oct 31, 2009 11:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i don't think
that it is so much LJ playing for the chiefs again that people care about as much as it is LJ breaking Priest’s record.
You don’t cut him and give him what he wants, but you also don’t give him the chiefs all-time record either. You make him stay on the team, but you make him earn his playing time too. does anyone need to have a super game at jacksonville? why isn’t charles’ 5 ypc good enough?
let’s get creative and see 2, 3 rb formations with charles, savage, and smith back there. mix it up with a combination of pass blocking, runs, etc. one guy can stay to block, one guy runs a route, and the other takes the hand off for the draw. etc etc….
to me, it seems that the biggest punishment for LJ is to stay on the team and not get to play, at least not much. he should be like the other johnson on this team as far as playing time.
"We're not losers, we just can't win!"
by chief Stevie_k on Oct 31, 2009 9:53 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Yes...
You don’t cut him and give him what he wants, but you also don’t give him the chiefs all-time record either. You make him stay on the team, but you make him earn his playing time too. does anyone need to have a super game at jacksonville? why isn’t charles’ 5 ypc good enough?
Because up to now, Charles’ 5 YPC hasn’t been enough to get him on the field except on third down. If it comes down to a grievance where they have to defend their actions on the basis of play – instead of what LJ has done off the field – it’ll go a lot easier on P&H if they can show that other guys did better than LJ as feature backs.
I grant your point. It’s not as if LJ has been effective. If P&H had moved him back on the depth chart BEFORE this incident, then they could point to that if a grievance was filed. But they didn’t do that.
to me, it seems that the biggest punishment for LJ is to stay on the team and not get to play, at least not much. he should be like the other johnson on this team as far as playing time.
I agree. I think that dressing him for the games – but mostly leaving him on the sidelines – sends the right message to LJ… and the team. Unfortunately, this is exactly the situation that history shows will lead to LJ being in the headlines again.
There just aren’t a lot of good options here.
by RDOGuy on Oct 31, 2009 10:13 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
They needn't answer to ANYone for declaring him inactive.
The depth chart is totally at their discretion.
No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.
by hmills110 on Oct 31, 2009 12:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You sure about that?
Normally you’d be 100% correct. But nothing about this situation is normal.
LJ has been suspended by the team. That’s totally at the team’s discretion, too… right? Yet it now appears the league and the union have butted their way into the situation. So a team suspension doesn’t appear to be totally the team’s call, does it?
Until the last couple of days, I would have agreed with you that would be really unlikely that LJ would file a grievance against the team because they put him on the third string, and he’s not getting any playing time. But I also would have said that it was unlikely that LJ’s agent would appeal a suspension for something LJ has admitted doing – after all, he aplogized for it, right?
So we’re in Alice in Wonderland territory here. Up is down, and down is up. Anything is possible.
If LJ is kept by the Chiefs, but deactivated for every game, he loses money. So does his agent. They could file a grievance that he’s being suspended “in effect” – that LJ served his two game suspension, and that should be the end of it.
If he’s kept on the team, but remains active for each game and just doesn’t get any carries, they could probably come up with some kind of BS claim for a grievance… say… that by being denied the opportunity to get on the field, his market value is being adversely affected. “Hey,” they’ll say, “LJ stayed away from Arrowhead for two weeks. He apologized. Now he’s being discriminated against. Waaaaaahhhh!”
That’s why I’m saying Pioli and Haley are hoping a RB will step up against Jacksonville – so that if something like that occurs, they can point to that game and say, “Well, look… Kolby Smith had 110 yards on 21 carries against the Jaguars. He’s the guy who should be playing.” Sure… they could say Haley made a coach’s decision – that it was LJ’s 2.7 YPC that did it. But it’s not like that was only in the Chargers game! He’s sucked all season, and Haley still put him in there play after play after play. They’d be in a lot better shape if LJ had been benched BEOFRE all this happened.
So while the Mad Hatter is running the show, I’d be a little careful about being too sure that the depth chart – at least as it relates to LJ – is entirely up to Todd Haley.
by RDOGuy on Oct 31, 2009 4:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If this "settlement"
ends up being for anything less that the current punishment, I will be very disappointed with the organization.
by KCMizzou on Oct 31, 2009 10:35 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I would have said the same thing...
until the league and the union (apparently) got involved. When the settlement talk first came up, I assumed it was figuring out a way to let Johnson go without the Chiefs paying him the full balance of his contract… which would also eliminate the salary cap hit the Chiefs would have to take if they released him after this season. There would be some downsides to that – other players could see they could get off a losing team by making a controversy – but it made some kind of sense.
But now that the league and the union seems to be involved in this negotiation, I don’t know what might come of it. All four parties have entirely different agendas. I think you could have counted on the Chiefs to do something that would have counted as a win for them in some way… but now that these other parties are involved – both of which have some power over the Chiefs – all bets are off.
by RDOGuy on Oct 31, 2009 10:43 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
By leaving him on the sidelines, if LJ wants to put himself in the headlines again...
Then let him act up again and officially screw himself out of his contract.
by WyattChief on Oct 31, 2009 10:37 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Exactly my thoughts
Either he shuts up and sits quietly and gets a bloated paycheck, or the Chiefs get out of continuing to overpay him.
by Jawookie on Oct 31, 2009 11:45 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Speacial Teams
Can he be removed as a starter and be put on ST? That way he is playing, but not getting any sort of rushing record or attention. It would sort of be the ultimate demotion while not getting fired.
by ChiefsNfl on Oct 31, 2009 11:14 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Can he play special teams in any way that would benefit the team? I don’t think so and it would be taking away from someone that’s really trying to make plays.
is it me? or isn't about time the Lamar Hunt trophy belonged to His team?
I’m a Chiefs fan Dammit and I’m damn proud of it!
by KC Fanatic on Oct 31, 2009 11:18 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Special Teams
I don’t know if I am remembering correctly, but didn’t LJ return a Kickoff for a TD, in preseason, his rookie season?
Granted, it was preseason, and I’m not saying that they should put him back there. I’m kinda just wondering if this really happened?
by Just_Kane on Oct 31, 2009 12:06 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
To be honest
Even if you didn’t have all this other stuff going on with LJ, (Oh but you do) His production does not mean his should be a featured back at all. The Chiefs have other running backs and although they have not seen much time yet, LJ’s production should tell the team to start looking in a different direction. If your QB had this kind of production everyone would be screaming for the back-up, why is this any different?
Add in LJ’s problems and yes I think the team keeps him for the rest of the season but that’s as far as he goes with the Chiefs. Yes he should miss the next game as a punishment, but there is no reason right now for him to be playing. He should have fallen in the depth chart a couple of weeks ago when it was clear he did not have the tools anymore. I would rather use a running back by committee for now before making anyone a featured back. Make them earn that right if they can, but for now let’s see what the rest can do and throw out some different looks on offense. After all that either LJ will blow-up again and more action or he will become a forgotten has been. Either way it is time to move forward with this and only bring it up if and when it happens again, by then the NFL itself will have to step in since they are such a big part of the settlement.
is it me? or isn't about time the Lamar Hunt trophy belonged to His team?
I’m a Chiefs fan Dammit and I’m damn proud of it!
by KC Fanatic on Oct 31, 2009 11:15 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
told you guys it wawsn't about the gay slur
IF anything, attacking the fans is the worst thing he did, followed by attacking his coach, then the gay slur.
I only say this b/c it obviously was not intended as a gay slur, but rather, as slang.
by Cassel is a west coast pretty boy on Oct 31, 2009 11:22 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
intent and results are two different things
“but officer, i didn’t intend to hit him when i shot my gun. I just wanted to put it about his head. scare him a bit.”
responsibility for your actions. period.
by TDubb on Oct 31, 2009 11:36 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah but you can't really compare the two
maybe you could compare it to haley mouthing curse words during game closeups, but that’s it. Don’t make the guy out to be on par with murderer’s, tis called a logical fallacy….
by Cassel is a west coast pretty boy on Oct 31, 2009 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The point was "intention" not the crime
he still said it.
by TDubb on Oct 31, 2009 4:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
As the old saying goes...
Million dollar talent, 10 cent brain.
Or as Larry the cable guy said “Ya can’t fix stupid”
is it me? or isn't about time the Lamar Hunt trophy belonged to His team?
I’m a Chiefs fan Dammit and I’m damn proud of it!
by KC Fanatic on Oct 31, 2009 12:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
sorry to do this to ya.....
Ron White said that…..
by ill_spec on Oct 31, 2009 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have all of what he said directly copied and put into word
and this is one of the first times someone mentions that its also about the attack on the fans…the things he said, and how he said them…a lot of what he said was never reported because the gay slurs were considered more important, he in a sense taunted fans for not being players, not being in the know, having nothing to do with his contract, so hate him all you want, go BBQ since you cant play and have nothing to do with the team, your broke, Im rich, Im really really rich. then the gay slurs…
well…ID just remove him from the team, I cant stand the idea of LJ taking carries…
by SDChief on Oct 31, 2009 11:59 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
oh right, and the 9-5 job comment tossed in among the pay check comments...
personally I dont care if he runs for 1500 yards elsewhere(dont think he will run for 800) I just dont want him representing anything KC football.
by SDChief on Oct 31, 2009 12:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
what's funny about that to me is
That he was taunting the guy saying " you can’t take my paychecks"
Which is exactly what happened. Hilarious.
by Cassel is a west coast pretty boy on Oct 31, 2009 12:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Off the field or on, LJ sucks.
On the field, LJ averages less than 3 yards per carry, usually by falling forward when the first tackler reaches him. For this, KC pays him the salary of an elite running back.
Off the field, LJ can’t shut his piehole and has an established track history of hatred against women, people of different sexual orientation, coaches, beloved players like Priest Holmes, and even the fans that pay to see him play—which ultimately pays his salary.
Why are we keeping this deadwood?
by Pilcrow on Oct 31, 2009 12:08 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
LJ...
is a cancer. He will begin to infect our locker room, sidelines and practice fields. Disgruntled players eventually will destroy teams. Best to be rid of them (Randy Moss, Jay Cutler, Corey Dillon, Terrel Owens….) if he has success someplace else, who cares? He will eventally become a nightmare to deal with again or he fall into line and fade away. We should’ve gotten rid of him when he gave the first indication of being difficult to deal with when he held out after he set the record for most carries in a season.
by ill_spec on Oct 31, 2009 12:41 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I don't buy it
King is never one to know all that much about the Chiefs. He is just speculating off of what ESPN and LJ’s agent have said. I just don’t see LJ coming back this year. I see a settlement in terms of his remaining salary this year (Chiefs pay him in the 1.5 million range) and then him being deactivated for the rest of the season. In the offseason the Chiefs would probably shop him around right up till the draft and if they could get nothing, will cut him loose sometime before June.
by kcchief02 on Oct 31, 2009 1:23 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
That B!+@# Slap Still Hurts.
If our other three backs make a show against Jacksonville and perhaps keep fighting for the spots; i.e. production without LJ, then cut hum. He has lost the majority if not all of the fan base. Do you guys think this line wants to truly block for him, even if they could?
Cut his ass and get em’ gone. The fans really need to step up on this one, he b!+@# slapped us.
By telling one fan, he told us all what he thinks of us when he said, to paraphrase; Go back to your (hourly wage, salary) job and suck it! I play a GAME making 100 times what you do, even though it’s your job that supports mine.
I know it is a business for Clark, Scott and the whole organization, and if he gets field time and we don’t win, what message will that be to the season ticket holder? “Hey we’re gonna raise prices because we have a brand new stadium for 2010, and our players as well as the rest of us don’t care about you and the emotional roller coaster we put you through for your loyalty and money! Just give us the green, that’s all we want!”
Damn the Torpedoes! Cut him!
Something to ponder from the crashman.
by crashman6 on Oct 31, 2009 3:43 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Was Johnson Really Bashing Fans?
The Chiefs/NFL aren’t serious, are they? If Johnson made reference to someone “going back to a $5.00 an hour job” then he wasn’t referring to an NFL fan. Two tickets, parking and a few snacks is easlily $250.00. Buying officially licensed gear, signing up for NFL ticket——basically being a fan costs a small fortune, so I don’t think the NFL gives a damn about people making five bucks an hour, or they’d make their product more affordable. This is about Johnson being critical of his coach and possibly a component of the league being politically correct. Case closed.
by AngeloM on Oct 31, 2009 4:10 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
do you want all of what he said in response to CHIEF fans? if so, here you go
Make me regret it. Lmao. U don’t stop my checks. Lmao. So “tweet” away.about 3 hours ago from UberTwitter
@KD2407 then don’t reply then. Still richer then u. Keep goin. Come play our game ooops forgot u can’t.about 3 hours ago from UberTwitter in reply to KD2407
@DrewK30 got nuthn to do wit hiring my father. But u wouldn’t know cuz u don’t play either so keep on the sideline lil gril n cheer.about 4 hours ago from UberTwitter in reply to DrewK30
@DrewK30 sorry to tell u ur the reason y ur broke n dissn on twitter lmao.about 4 hours ago from UberTwitter in reply to DrewK30
@jaredlaunius think bout a clever diss then that wit ur fag pic. Christopher street boy. Is what us east coast cats call u.about 4 hours ago from UberTwitter in reply to jaredlaunius
@jaredlaunius. Sorry ur a cornball n ur mom birthed u broke. But I’m cakn patna. While u work or school for 5 dollas n hour. Ha!about 4 hours ago from UberTwitter in reply to jaredlaunius
My father 3 or 4 state champs in Maryland. 3 or 4 1st rd picks Penn State. . Not including son!!!about 7 hours ago from UberTwitter
My father played for the coach from “rememeber the titans”. Our coach played golf. My father played for redskins briefley. Our coach. Nuthnabout 7 hours ago from UberTwitter
my father got more creditentials than most of these pro coaches…..google my father!!!!!!!about 7 hours ago from UberTwitter
by SDChief on Oct 31, 2009 4:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I cant disagree more....you read all that and tell me its only about the coach, to make the comments he made
them come back the next day, and say the same derogatory word….no way…hes 29 years old…he needs to get some help.
by SDChief on Oct 31, 2009 5:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I never got the feeling...
that johnson respected fans anyhow, so whatever he meant doesn’t change my negative opinion of him. I do think the entire situation is being overblown and over-scrutinized. Other people have said stuff like this before and they will again. Usually they apologize, take the suspension and come back, don’t see why it should change here, his performance aside.
His performance is a separate issue. If he isn’t cutting it on the football field that should be addressed separately after the suspension. I don’t think Haley was scared to bench him in the first place, after all the Chiefs have won one game. I don’t think rocking the boat scares Haley or would ultimately change our win column whatever he decided to do. If Haley played him, in his opinion Johnson has something left in the tank.
Haley doesn’t really strike me as the type of guy who plays people to embarrass them or to show them up. Johnson hasn’t performed and we probably need a change at RB but don’t use his off the field conduct to say he doesn’t deserve to be on the field after he takes whatever punishment he is doled out by the team and league.
I am not saying he deserves to be on the field mind you, I personally don’t believe he does based on his on the field play. Just as a fan try to be mature about things and stop imagining all the ways we could screw over LJs contract with all these elaborate punishments (LJ on special teams, practice squad etc) and start thinking about whats best for the Chiefs on the field.
There is my rant, not all of it was on topic, sorry. :p
by Lucasjr5 on Oct 31, 2009 5:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
well
I think the difference here, is his past
he has four incidents with women….hitting them, spitting on them….
hes also made these type of comments before about Kansas City, just not to this degree.
and yeah, Ill take his poor play out of the equation, and I still see way too much of a repeat offender at a position where you can find PLENTY of guys who can run the ball.
by SDChief on Oct 31, 2009 5:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I do agree the screwing over LJ is stupid
it only hurts the team, dont put that guy on ST, he cant block, that just hurts our ST units…
Id rather not have to look at him in a KC uniform…but if we must hold onto him, no carries…NONE…he cant be rewarded with the all time leading rusher title…id be pretty bummed…and refuse to cheer for LJ
by SDChief on Oct 31, 2009 5:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i agree with that
but that should affect his punishment (harsher sentence, more money) not his playing time (after the punishment depending on how gracefully he accepts the punishment). Don’t give him a chance to get some sympathy by treating him unfairly here.
Haley needs to hardline the fact that the best back will get the carries based on their on the field play. Then he needs to bench LJ because he is not the best back in my opinion but that is his call. :p
by Lucasjr5 on Oct 31, 2009 5:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
im ok with that
andI do agree, hes not the best back, his carry numbers show that, add in a lack of blocking/recieving…
im on board with that, and it keeps the chiefs from getting a grievance from LJ .
by SDChief on Oct 31, 2009 5:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
problem is
Haley (who I like) has never said a bad word about LJ.
Air Cassel - approved for takeoff
by kabrink on Oct 31, 2009 5:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
which is why i say he must see something we don't
I don’t get it either, I just won’t believe those who say he is playing him knowing he will play poorly so he can be justified in benching him later on.
I think Haley really thinks Johnson is capable of being a good back. Maybe he is, maybe he isn’t but its about time to start looking about pulling the plug or making it a more even split in carries and see how we can jump start this offense. Charles fits in with the offense Haley runs better than LJ anyways. He just needs to not fumble or we’ll just want LJ back. :p
by Lucasjr5 on Oct 31, 2009 5:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
haley may also just be that much smarter than people think
if he had said something, there was more fuel to larry johnson’s argument, but with haley doing nothing but handing him the ball, LJ has no grievance.
by SDChief on Oct 31, 2009 6:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
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