Dungy: 'If I'm the Chiefs, I get rid of Larry Johnson'
by Joel Thorman on Oct 30, 2009 9:51 AM CDT
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One of the most respected figures in the NFL community has given his opinion on the situation regarding Larry Johnson and the Kansas City Chiefs.
And it ain't good for LJ.
Appearing on the Dan Patrick Show, Tony Dungy, who mentored Michael Vick as he made his transition back into the NFL, said if he were in GM Scott Pioli's chair, LJ wouldn't be wearing a Chiefs jersey.
"If I'm them, right now, I'd get rid of Larry Johnson," the former Colts coach said. "Larry Johnson is really trying to be a distraction."
This isn't a report citing sources like the ones we get from Adam Schefter and Kent Babb. This is the opinion of a man whose opinions many people, including Commissioner Roger Goodell, take very seriously.
Now, I don't know the inner-workings of exactly what is going on. But I can confidently say that Chiefs GM Scott Pioli respects the hell out of Bill Polian, the Colts GM who oversaw Dungy's tenure in Indianapolis. And, putting two and two together, I think I can confidently say that Pioli respects what Mr. Dungy has to say.
Does this mean he will take his advice? No. Does it mean LJ will never play for the Chiefs again? Not necessarily.
But Dungy's advice has been sought by Commissioner Goodell in the past so I tend to notice what he says.
Another interesting dynamic about Dungy voicing his opinion on the situation is this: If Dungy was willing to vouch for Michael Vick, and not Larry Johnson, what does that say about LJ's future in the NFL? The NFL Commissioner sought Dungy's approval/input on the Vick situation so it's obvious that important folks in the NFL take his position seriously.
Not a good day for LJ, in my opinion.
The overwhelming opinion of those folks in the football world appears to be that it's time for the Chiefs and Larry Johnson to part ways. Our preference seems to be to deactivate him for the season following this incident. Either way, the result's the same - no one wants LJ to put on a Chiefs uniform again.
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He is saying this so we release him and the Colts can pick him up.
:-)
by Nick Britt on Oct 30, 2009 9:57 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I absolutley agree with Dungy. LJ should be gone. He is disrespetful, always has been! But I think I would teach him a lesson first. I would sit him for the rest of the year, then release him after game 16. He needs to never step foot into a Chiefs game again. He is a punk, and doesn’t deserve to even be on any team. I for one am tired of these guys who make millions playing a game, and it isn’t good enough for them. There is to much disrespect in this world today. And these football players that whine because they aren’t making this much money, or things aren’t going well are so old. I am tired of all the little baby’s in football. And the league, teams, owners coaches and gm’s need to start seriously taking action against this type of bs. We have seen eonough of lj and his childish crap!!
by kcrules on Oct 30, 2009 10:05 AM CDT reply actions 2 recs
Just as childish as LJ has been
Just release him and be done is the adult thing to do!
by Tooner on Oct 30, 2009 10:27 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who Cares!!!
Release Him who cares where he goes!!!! Cut HIm And dont let him break the all time rushing record for the Chiefs!!! Go Chiefs!!!
by njchiefs on Oct 30, 2009 10:08 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
yup
diapers are now back on, thanks LJ for the crappy entertainment in KC.
by jd2009 on Oct 30, 2009 10:38 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Remember the tuna
Haley learned a lot from the tuna. the tuna had a lot of players in his dog house.
by Charles # 1 chiefs fan on Oct 30, 2009 10:42 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
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If you just release him he gets 1.9 million dollars, if we keep him an then release him he gets only like 1 million. stick it too him. make him watch other players play the game wile he gets rusty on the bench. actually i hope he doesnt even come to games. just de-activate him.
Would ya like a free NANAA!
by Jazzy Megalodon on Oct 30, 2009 11:14 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
You'd think Dungy would respect a man who has similar views of homosexuals.
"What?!?! I aint no Obama for the weed!"
-Turk McBride
by HIV 2 Elway on Oct 30, 2009 11:16 AM CDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
I was thinking the exact same thing. I like the guy and respect him, but yeah im not too sure about Dungy being a beacon of reason.
"I will fight you!"
"What is your weapon?"
"My bare hands!"
"That is stupid. I will use a sword and I will cut off your bare hands."
by CT Chief Fan on Oct 30, 2009 11:45 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
oh come on...
Dungy is a man of God…Many believe that the Bible say homosexuality is a sin. Regardless of his views he is not out in the world throwing insults at gay people….A good Christian tries to get a sinner to “See the Light” Kind of like what he is doing for Vick. Dungy is a good man, coach,and mentor. He does not deserve to be grouped with the likes of LJ.
by KCinAZ on Oct 30, 2009 11:51 AM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
i dont know if i said he should be grouped with LJ
I just feel like maybe he should remain silent on an issue which he has been known to speak out against due to his beliefs.
I should have qualified my statement by saying “on this issue” originally and i apologize for that.
"I will fight you!"
"What is your weapon?"
"My bare hands!"
"That is stupid. I will use a sword and I will cut off your bare hands."
by CT Chief Fan on Oct 30, 2009 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He may not agree with homosexuality.....
but certainly the word f*g does not grace his vocabulary
by HeatherChiefsLvr on Oct 30, 2009 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i agree
"I will fight you!"
"What is your weapon?"
"My bare hands!"
"That is stupid. I will use a sword and I will cut off your bare hands."
by CT Chief Fan on Oct 30, 2009 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hope HIV and CT that you realize your statements
are every bit as bigoted as LJs. Perhaps it was in jest, but your comments are playing with the worst sort of stereotypes. Just FYI.
"A word to the wise isn't necessary, it is the stupid ones who need all the advice." ---Bill Cosby
by Big Chief on Oct 30, 2009 12:31 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
wow
Thats pretty brazen of you…im a bigot because I question someone who has in the past said he doesnt agree or believe in gay anything commenting on someone who uses a hateful slander in relation to gay people. And in case you missed it, Dungy says he should be let go which I happen to agree with.
All I was pointing out is maybe Tony should have stayed silent on this particular issue. If he wants to comment on which WR I should start on my fantasy team, I’ll be glad to listen.
Its not so much different than Parade saying Turley should shut up about head issues because of his past statements and actions. Unless that is bigoted also?
"I will fight you!"
"What is your weapon?"
"My bare hands!"
"That is stupid. I will use a sword and I will cut off your bare hands."
by CT Chief Fan on Oct 30, 2009 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
To disagree with a lifestyle is a far cry from demeaning it
I’ve never heard Tony Dungy make any comments on homosexuality. Perhaps you have and I’m wrong. I would have to see proof he ever made a demeaning comment about homosexuals. Disagreeing with a lifestyle is different from demeaning it. It’s totally unfair to equate them.
I made my comment assuming that your comments were based on Tony’s well known religious beliefs. To assume that Tony “has similar views of homosexuals” because of his religious beliefs is a bigoted statement. It’s holding to a stereotype about religion as incorrect as many of those about race and sexual preference.
I also want to point out I didn’t say you were a bigot. I wouldn’t assume you were even if you made a statement I thought was bigoted. I give you the benefit of the doubt. That’s why I pointed out your comments could be taken as such.
"A word to the wise isn't necessary, it is the stupid ones who need all the advice." ---Bill Cosby
by Big Chief on Oct 30, 2009 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I also want to say I'm sorry
for using the word bigoted. It’s a loaded word and tends to cause hard feelings. I should have stuck with “wrong”. My apologies.
"A word to the wise isn't necessary, it is the stupid ones who need all the advice." ---Bill Cosby
by Big Chief on Oct 30, 2009 1:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
no problem BC
I never bring religion into a convo, pointless yadda yadda.
But he has had in the past stated his beliefs on this social issue.
I stole this from wikipedia, but this is the gist of what I was referring to:
On March 20, 2007, Dungy aligned himself with a socially conservative organization, the Indiana Family Institute, and openly supported an amendment to the Indiana constitution which would have defined marriage as solely between one man and one woman.34
There were specific comments, but nothing derogatory like LJ’s.
Again I respect the guy, heck of a person and a coach (horrible broadcaster…) but maybe he could have sat this one out is all im sayin.
"I will fight you!"
"What is your weapon?"
"My bare hands!"
"That is stupid. I will use a sword and I will cut off your bare hands."
by CT Chief Fan on Oct 30, 2009 1:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I didn't read the whole transcript but...
All Dungy is saying is that the Chiefs should release LJ, which we all agree on, and that he is causing an unnecessary distraction to a struggling team.
That’s it…he’s not stating anything about the Gay thing or his viewpoints or what not (even if we all know his standings on the issue). So I don’t see how this discussion even started…
by butchcassidy on Oct 30, 2009 2:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tony Dungy
certainly has the ear of a lot of important people these days. He’s pretty beloved. I’m sure Pioli is measuring every option, and eventually we’ll see what’s best for the organization (which hopefully coincides with what’s best for the fans).
by Chief-Eli on Oct 30, 2009 11:32 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Id like to see him ...
come out of retirement and coach the chiefs,,,,wouldnt that be grrrrrrreeeat?
by KCinAZ on Oct 30, 2009 11:45 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Larry Johnson
Seems to me Larry is almost the all time Chiefs leading rusher. No running back could run for a 100 yards with our offensive line. I can’t blame LJ for saying what a lot of us think about Hayley. How can LJ sit back when week by week this team keeps getting worse. The Chiefs wasted the best years of LJ’s life. I would be pissed too if I was LJ. Dungy should mind his own business.
by CBChiefs on Oct 30, 2009 12:20 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
LJ has had the chance
He has way too many chances both the the team and running the ball. I’m not say the offensive line is not worthy of some of the blame but I have not seen LJ look like he is trying to break a run loose. I’ve lost count how many times this season he has gone down on first contact. Or how many times I’ve seen a hole open up (sometimes not a huge hole) and LJ just seems to fail to make a cut to get to the hole. Earlier in the season I saw a play breakdown looking at to offensive line and on most of the running plays it said “LJ was late getting to the hole.” He has lost skills and worn out the good graces of the Kansas City fans, and to lose the fans respect in this town is not easy to do, you have to work at it.
I know this settlement is being discussed and the Chiefs do not have to agree to it, I think they have the NFL’s backing on this which is why they have not stepped in yet. I do not think the the NFL’s executive of the decade will just accept a settlement that does not benefit the Chiefs. I prefer the keeping him and deactivating him with his release coming at the end of the season, However if something can be worked out the helps the Chiefs then I’m in favor of the release. Dungy is a respected coach and man, and nothing will change that view however it is one thing to sit at home and make blanket statement, but yet another thing with your the GM of a team and everyone is watching to see what you will do, knowing you will be second guessed no matter what you choose.
is it me? or isn't about time the Lamar Hunt trophy belonged to His team?
I’m a Chiefs fan Dammit and I’m damn proud of it!
by KC Fanatic on Oct 30, 2009 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I still cant believe we gave up Allen for this bum! I seen 4 years ago this was a problem. Anybody remember Larry’s infamous phrase, “This shet aint ok” reffering to Herms plan to keep it close & hope for a victory. Larry has clocked out. He’s been clocked out. He’s on year 3 of his “release or trade me now” plan. It still amazes me how people dont see it in his play, how an arm or lack of running room can easily bring him down. This guy is a monster for his position, as in size. There is no way in footballs “Heavenly Green Pastures” this guy should have any less than 65-75 yards per game. The obvious has been starring you in the face the whole time. Larry Johnson is from Penn State (eastcoast). Larry is tied into with Jay-Z (eastcoast). Larry is not as marketable here in “Cow Town” as verses “The Big Apple” (eastcoast). Larry wants to go Home. Somewhere on the eastcoast. He thought his play would do it, it hasnt. Now what you see is a blaint attempt to force Pioli’s hand. Somebody Will pick him up. As for money, the Chiefs are still liable for his contract. So any team who picks him up wouldnt be liable for that. King Carl really did stick it to us Chiefs fans.
by imur#1fan on Oct 30, 2009 12:38 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Willing to vouch...
for a convict but not for LJ. Buh-roo-tull.
by mynameistyler on Oct 30, 2009 12:51 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
makes me wonder.....
Dungy as the Chiefs Special Assistant to Scott Pioli…..hmmmm
Winning begins with Attitude - Haley and Pioli will be winners in KC!
I'll forever be a Chiefs fan! Only God himself could take that away from me, but when I get to my great reward, I'll rejoin two bigger fans, my Mom and Dad.
by Lanier63 on Oct 30, 2009 1:02 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
“If I’m them, right now, I’d get rid of Larry Johnson,” the former Colts coach said. “Larry Johnson is really trying to be a distraction.”
Sorry to break it to you Dungy….you gave up your right to make NFL decisions when you retired. And you dont know everything about this situation so its best to keep your mouth shut about it. When you judge someone for wrong doing you are doing wrong yourself.
The Chiefs best interest may be to cut him loose but what about LJ’s best interest…..I say give him counseling and then release him….he needs help and everyone condemning him only makes it worse. He didnt kill anyone and he didnt commit a felony…..he shouldnt be treated as so.
"Its going to be a challenge, its going to feel like forever, and there will be difficulties. But we will emerge on the other side of it stronger than we were when we entered." ~ Sudden
by Matt_Grbac on Oct 30, 2009 1:31 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
my goodness
guess u r doing wrong urself saying that dungy did something wrong. good job.
by MountainManMike on Oct 30, 2009 3:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey I am a nobody...I know that
My opinion carries no weight…..Tony Dungy does. His comments mean a heck of a lot more than mine. He needs to think about that before commenting on something he knows nothing about.
"Its going to be a challenge, its going to feel like forever, and there will be difficulties. But we will emerge on the other side of it stronger than we were when we entered." ~ Sudden
by Matt_Grbac on Oct 30, 2009 5:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
also
sounds like ur saying if ur not in the nfl, u have no right to speak on it. does this rule apply to all but u?
by MountainManMike on Oct 30, 2009 3:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think you're carrying this comparison too far
Another interesting dynamic about Dungy voicing his opinion on the situation is this: If Dungy was willing to vouch for Michael Vick, and not Larry Johnson, what does that say about LJ’s future in the NFL?
I haven’t seen Dungy’s full comments. But, what you quoted in the article is really not referring to NFL status but team status. I think Dungy is saying what I also believe. These are offenses, combined with his other antics, that were targeted at a specific team (his) and that require him to be removed from that team but not the NFL.
If the NFL can keep dog killers and people murderers and rapists around then I don’t see why they would have big problems with bigots or name callers.
Air Cassel - approved for takeoff
by kabrink on Oct 30, 2009 1:33 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
They shouldn't...
The NFL is full of bigots and name callers… xD
by butchcassidy on Oct 30, 2009 2:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rather that have Tony Dungy's comment on the subjet
I would honestly like to hear from any NFL players who are Homosexuals. I doubt that there are many openly gay players in the league, but LJ’s remarks were directed as a slur to their lives, and what they think would carry a lot more with with me.
Most of us know someone that is openly gay, how many have us have sat down to talk with them about this subject? I would but she is out of state for the next month (I live in a small town so there are not many that are out) Instead of looking at the comments from a football perspective maybe we ought to try looking at it from anothers point of view.
The NFL most address this because so much has been made of it, as well as GLAAD getting involved. This thing has multiple points that have to be addressed, the slur, the twitter exchange, and the history of LJ’s past behavior. No one thing is going to fix it all, and I think that is something Mr. Dungy has not fully looked at before making his comments.
is it me? or isn't about time the Lamar Hunt trophy belonged to His team?
I’m a Chiefs fan Dammit and I’m damn proud of it!
by KC Fanatic on Oct 30, 2009 2:22 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
thank you
for more eloquently putting it than I did, and i whole-heartidly agree.
"I will fight you!"
"What is your weapon?"
"My bare hands!"
"That is stupid. I will use a sword and I will cut off your bare hands."
by CT Chief Fan on Oct 30, 2009 2:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And now (hopfully) for a laugh
Whomever runs LJ’s wikipedia page has a sense of humor….
On October 27, 2009, The Chiefs “instructed Larry to refrain from practicing with the Chiefs or participating in other team activities” for his Twitter comments on Chiefs head coach Todd Haley and reportedly using gay slurs when he addressed the media. However, when Johnson was leaving the Chiefs practice facility, he was stopped one yard short of the exit on three consecutive attempts
"I will fight you!"
"What is your weapon?"
"My bare hands!"
"That is stupid. I will use a sword and I will cut off your bare hands."
by CT Chief Fan on Oct 30, 2009 2:41 PM CDT reply actions 2 recs
+1
Now that’s funny, I don’t care who you are.
is it me? or isn't about time the Lamar Hunt trophy belonged to His team?
I’m a Chiefs fan Dammit and I’m damn proud of it!
by KC Fanatic on Oct 30, 2009 3:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Haha..God bless Wikipedia
Козацькому роду нема переводу
by craig in calgary on Oct 30, 2009 3:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I so hate this guys comments. Dungy: ‘If I’m the Chiefs, I get rid of Larry Johnson; “Larry Johnson is really trying to be a distraction.” He’s not just saying that cause he can prove LJ is “trying” to be a distraction? At any rate, he’s not the Chiefs (is this guy trying to be a distraction?), and he’s not just saying that cause he can prove it? Very distracting. Chiefs are 1-6, what is he distracting, maybe he should be given a medal?
by Enema on Oct 30, 2009 3:33 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I agree with Dungy except...
I would release him at the end of the season. I have been a supporter of LJ for a while, but I have to draw the line. He has been in and out of trouble for a while now, and he either is not trying, or has seriously lost a step. I watched the nfl classic game from I believe 05 with the cowboys, and he was at least twice as explosive. I was shocked, not at the outrage of the word he used, but at the way that he attacked Haley personally. He obviously wants out because there is no way he thought he could say that stuff and say in KC while playing the way he’s playing. His comments were disrespectful whether you agree with homosexuality or not. I dont agree with homosexuality, but I don’t disrespect homosexuals just because I don’t agree. And as far as Dungy goes, I think it is funny how members of a forum knock someone for giving an opinion when thats what we are all here for.
by Enite on Oct 30, 2009 8:26 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
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