Where will the Chiefs pick in 2010 1st Round

by Steve_Chiefs on Oct 29, 2009 3:00 PM CDT Comment 45 comments

A little different take on the Woeful ones this week. I am going to predict that Miami, Seattle, and Buffalo the current 10-12 spots will win enough games to become a non-issue in the fortunes of Our Kansas City Chiefs this year. I also will now rank the teams battling for the top Draft pick in 2010 draft in proper order.

1. St. Louis Rams                   0-7  @Detroit, @Tennessee
2. Tampa Bay Bucanneers    0-7  @Carolina
3. Tennessee Titans              0-6  @SF, Buffalo, St. Louis
4. Kansas City Chiefs             1-6  Cleveland, @Oakland
5. Cleveland Browns               1-6  @Detroit, @KC, Oakland
6. Detroit Lions                         1-5  Cleveland, St. Louis
7. Oakland Raiders                 2-5  KC, Washington, @Cleveland
8. Washington FC                    2-5  @Oakland
9. Carolina Panthers              2-4  Miami, Tampa Bay

Key Matchups as the season winds down:

Nov 1 St. Louis @ Detroit
Nov 15 Kansas City @ Oakland
Nov 19 Miami @ Carolina
Nov 22 Cleveland @ Detroit
Dec 6 Tampa Bay @ Carolina
Dec 13 St. Louis @ Tennessee
Dec 13 Washington @ Oakland
Dec 20 Cleveland @ Kansas City
Dec 27 Oakland @ Cleveland

Interesting side note is that Atlanta appears capable of making the Playoffs with 10 or 11 wins. So the 2nd round pick for TG might end up in the upper 20's, or outside the top-50 players. I imagine that St. Louis can use about anyone in the 1st pick, but QB should be at top of their list. Tampa might too if Josh Freeman gets time and doesn't look like the QB of the future. A possible CB to replace Rondee Barber, and/or a big playmaking DT from Nebraska. Tennesseee probably needs to replace Collins at QB, But Berry at safety from Rocky Top might get a look. Plus, Fisher's replacement might want a new QB to start a New Era in Nashville.

What do You think?

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Which Team listed is the most likely to grab Berry?

Tennessee

15 votes

Cleveland

17 votes

Detroit

24 votes

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Huh?

Your poll doesnt fit in with the rest of the post. I award you no points, and may god have mercy on your soul =)

Before you judge a man, walk a mile in his shoes; after that, who cares?! He's a mile away and you've got his shoes!

by SuperTurtle on Oct 29, 2009 3:07 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

i followed it...

He’s assuming the chiefs want Berry (and I HOPE they do!)

He’s looking at the draft order, to see what teams might grab our guy

* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season

by stagdsp on Oct 29, 2009 3:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Ok, then. The title doesnt fit

Where will the chiefs pick in the 2010 1st round doesnt convert to who will pick eric berry, at least to me.

Before you judge a man, walk a mile in his shoes; after that, who cares?! He's a mile away and you've got his shoes!

by SuperTurtle on Oct 29, 2009 3:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

play fair now...lol

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by Lanier63 on Oct 29, 2009 3:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Roll on 2

"Its going to be a challenge, its going to feel like forever, and there will be difficulties. But we will emerge on the other side of it stronger than we were when we entered." ~ Sudden

by Matt_Grbac on Oct 29, 2009 4:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

draft strategy

IF Berry and Okung are taken by the time the Chiefs pick, I would STRONGLY be in favor of trading down, if possible.

If they could pick up an extra 2nd and or 3rd round pick, and still snag a guy like Trent Williams, OT, Charles Brown, OT, Brandon Spikes, MLB… then stock up in rd 2…

Cody, NT; Decker, WR; Gilyard, WR; O’Dowd, C; Black, OT; Lupati, G…. lots of 2nd/3rd round talent.

Guys like Gresham, TE; Kindle, OLB; Witherspoon, OLB and others could fall into the 2nd creating great value picks

by stagdsp on Oct 29, 2009 3:23 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Agree, But if we are in the Berry sweepstakes then Probably no one would trade with us.

Also I see Iupati is getting talked about as a Tackle now and might go towards bottom of 1st round.

We Will kick at least 4 Teams Asses in 09
And Succop will be the Key in two of them.
" Think and talk positive football off the field." Hank Stram

by Steve_Chiefs on Oct 29, 2009 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

well... there may be more QB hungry teams...

that’s the most likely scenario for someone to trade up, IMO

by stagdsp on Oct 29, 2009 3:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I actually think this year might be a little different

Maybe I am crazy, with with the QB class being a little stronger than last year, and the relative success of the jets moving up to take sanchez, I think there might be more opportunities than last year to trade down. Seen talk of Jacksonville needing to trade up to take Tebow – not because he is the best available at that slot, but they got to put some florida buts in the seats to keep the team.

by paxi on Oct 30, 2009 6:29 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

ha - didn't see stagdsp's comment right above me

by paxi on Oct 30, 2009 6:30 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I agree

If Berry is gone, I hope the Chiefs can trade down even if Okung is still on the board. If Bulaga, Campbell and Davis all declare early, there will be quality OT prospects left into round 2. I personally like Bulaga, Campbell, Charles Brown, and Jason Fox if a LT is a need after the second half of the season. I don’t think Okung is significantly superior to any of those guys and we could get them mid-late 1st, if we trade down or even top of the second round, if we get Berry.

by chrisclark_dfw on Oct 29, 2009 3:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Agree, Might be better to get that dominating Interior O-lineman early 2nd

Kinda leads back to if Berry is gone, who is worth the top 5 pick?
Suh or what

We Will kick at least 4 Teams Asses in 09
And Succop will be the Key in two of them.
" Think and talk positive football off the field." Hank Stram

by Steve_Chiefs on Oct 29, 2009 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

that's the question...

I’m not sure who else I’d want…
Suh is the man, but he’d be a 3-4 DE… and Lord knows, I’m tired of top 5 picks on those guys!

by stagdsp on Oct 29, 2009 3:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Exactly...

Suh is really the only other guy I think would be a value pick and fit our scheme. I just can’t see us taking a DL in the top 10 again. Unless Dorsey is traded in the offseason.

by chrisclark_dfw on Oct 29, 2009 3:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

value pick?

I didn’t know there was such a thing in the top 5.

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by kabrink on Oct 30, 2009 7:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

"If possible" is the most important piece there lol

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by woodman212 on Oct 29, 2009 4:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

If we want to trade down

we need to win some games. We’re not trading out of a top 5 pick. No one’s gonna trade up to get a QB this year. There are too many first round talents at QB available, it won’t be necessary.

I'm officially on the 'Draft Eric Berry' train.
Haley-Crennel 2010.

by scottbwalters on Oct 29, 2009 7:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I think the titans will not be drafting ahead of us

They will win more games than us this year. They are switching QB’s and they still have a guy named Chris Johnson.

"The spirit, the will to win, and the will to excel are the things that endure. These qualities are so much more important than the events that occur." - Vince Lombardi

by Shawn on Oct 29, 2009 3:32 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

They have some winnable games the 3 mentioned

but they have regressed since the Pittsburgh loss each week

We Will kick at least 4 Teams Asses in 09
And Succop will be the Key in two of them.
" Think and talk positive football off the field." Hank Stram

by Steve_Chiefs on Oct 29, 2009 3:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

they did lose 59-0...

they are playing terrible… they could be right in the hunt for a top 5 pick

but, EVERY team on that list above could be 4-12 or worse… so, it’s a tossup at this point

by stagdsp on Oct 29, 2009 3:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Let's build this 3-4 right

and draft Suh. A NT won’t come out like him in a looong time

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Chiefs will be lucky to go 4-12 in 2010

by KansasCityShuffle on Oct 29, 2009 3:44 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

hes not a NT

by SayHeyWerd on Oct 29, 2009 3:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

that's the big question

I agree that he’s probably not a NT… but, if he was… that’d be sweet.

I think he goes to Tampa at #2

by stagdsp on Oct 29, 2009 3:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Agree

(Also feels ridiculous speculating this early yet here we are….Chiefs fans…lol)

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by woodman212 on Oct 29, 2009 4:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Sorry

We are on bye week. The playoffs seem a million miles away right now :(

We Will kick at least 4 Teams Asses in 09
And Succop will be the Key in two of them.
" Think and talk positive football off the field." Hank Stram

by Steve_Chiefs on Oct 29, 2009 6:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

we COULD talk about LJ instead

Air Cassel - approved for takeoff

by kabrink on Oct 30, 2009 7:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Actaully...

If you think about it, Tampa really doesn’t play the same Tampa 2 defense like they did with Sapp. Their DT’s are usually block eaters allowing the DEs to make plays. Not sure if Suh fits into their defense. Tenn on the other hand, is clearly missing Fat Albert, Suh makes more sense to Tenn than it does to Tampa.

by BAMFSpecialOps on Oct 29, 2009 5:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Who might be the New Coach in Tennessee?

We Will kick at least 4 Teams Asses in 09
And Succop will be the Key in two of them.
" Think and talk positive football off the field." Hank Stram

by Steve_Chiefs on Oct 29, 2009 6:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

jeff fischer

by dgoddard on Oct 29, 2009 7:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

so, he just changes the way his last name is spelled?

would that help the team?

sorry, being sarcastic tonight :)

TN has some major issues… but Fisher is a long time, good coach… I bet he survives

by stagdsp on Oct 29, 2009 7:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

We could go a million different directions...

We could target one side of the ball or just draft bpa every pick…..its hard to tell. Pioli’s last few drafts has seen a large % of bust that are no longer with the team. Hopefully he can turn that around.

"Its going to be a challenge, its going to feel like forever, and there will be difficulties. But we will emerge on the other side of it stronger than we were when we entered." ~ Sudden

by Matt_Grbac on Oct 29, 2009 4:17 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

to be fair

all of Pioli’s 2009 draft picks are with the team…

only 3 of them are getting any playing time… but they are all with the organization

by stagdsp on Oct 29, 2009 4:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Sorry I meant with his other place of empoyment....

"Its going to be a challenge, its going to feel like forever, and there will be difficulties. But we will emerge on the other side of it stronger than we were when we entered." ~ Sudden

by Matt_Grbac on Oct 29, 2009 6:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

gotcha

by stagdsp on Oct 29, 2009 6:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I still don't see..

how the Titans have not won very many games. They gotta win more games, right?

Bewsaf

by Bewsaf on Oct 29, 2009 4:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

0 is not very many :)

they have played AWFUL… especially at QB and pass defense, I think…

by stagdsp on Oct 29, 2009 4:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

When they lost to the Pats 59-0

Their secondary had like 2 Rookies, 1 UDFA, and 1 third year player…Somehow that seems familiar

by BAMFSpecialOps on Oct 29, 2009 5:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

QB or not QB

Would the next coach feel that Vince Young is the Answer.
Something is definitely going bad in Nashville since losing to Pittsburgh

1 Sep 10 TEN 10 @ PIT 13
2 Sep 20 HOU 34 @ TEN 31
Sep 27 TEN 17 @ NYJ 24
4 Oct 04 TEN 17 @ JAC 37
5 Oct 11 IND 31 @ TEN 9
6 Oct 18 TEN 0 @ NE 59

We Will kick at least 4 Teams Asses in 09
And Succop will be the Key in two of them.
" Think and talk positive football off the field." Hank Stram

by Steve_Chiefs on Oct 29, 2009 6:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

looking at it they had a pretty

tough schedule………still no excuse for 59-0 but the worst team thay have played is the Jags and they(jags) could beat us right now

by dgoddard on Oct 29, 2009 7:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

i guess we will find out^^^

by dgoddard on Oct 29, 2009 7:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Granted

8 Nov 01 JAC @ TEN
9 Nov 08 TEN @ SF
10 Nov 15 BUF @ TEN
11 Nov 23 TEN @ HOU
12 Nov 29 ARI @ TEN
13 Dec 06 TEN @ IND
14 Dec 13 STL @ TEN
15 Dec 20 MIA @ TEN
16 Dec 25 SD @ TEN
17 Jan 03 TEN @ SEA

We Will kick at least 4 Teams Asses in 09
And Succop will be the Key in two of them.
" Think and talk positive football off the field." Hank Stram

by Steve_Chiefs on Oct 29, 2009 7:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

i could see them

beating Stl (obviously), buf, jac, and maybe hou thats 4 wins

by dgoddard on Oct 29, 2009 7:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Agree it looks possible to get some wins

Depends on how Vince Young plays.
Most of my assumption was based on just a straight line digression since weeks one and two. I like Fisher, good coach, have no idea what is the issue. They do need a QB even if he is only a Project.
only two on the depth chart when I looked

We Will kick at least 4 Teams Asses in 09
And Succop will be the Key in two of them.
" Think and talk positive football off the field." Hank Stram

by Steve_Chiefs on Oct 29, 2009 8:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs