Chiefs Players Try to Avoid Saturday Practice

by Joel Thorman on Oct 29, 2009 8:31 AM CDT in 2009 Kansas City Chiefs Campaign

I imagine this is like Saturday detention? Kansas City City Chiefs head coach Todd Haley told reporters yesterday that even though just Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday practices were scheduled, it's possible the team could have to come in on Saturday.

"That’s not for sure," Haley said when asked if players had the weekend off. "We’re evaluating these three days and there is a potential for a Saturday practice. We’re going to see how these three days go."

What do the Chiefs have to work on in order to avoid a Saturday practice?

"We’ve got a load of things to work on obviously," he said, "but we’re going to do some self-scouting of ourselves – specifically offensively some of the minus plays and how we prevent those from occurring, when they’re happening, is it a scheme that we’re putting players in a poor position to succeed, is it certain players?"

The coaches will also be trying to figure out exactly has gone wrong in the minus plays area.

"We started a full-length study this morning as a coaching staff and we’ll continue it this afternoon on why and how these minus plays are happening because they’re the root of all evil, so to speak, for us offensively," he said yesterday.

As for the defense, well, there's plenty to work on there as well.

"Defensively," Haley continued, "we’ve got figure out a way to prevent the big play because this is a recurring theme. It’s something that has to change. That’s the plan as far as studying and we’ll practice against each other in areas that we want to work on."

Like the offense, Haley and his coaching staff will try to figure out the big play problem.

"Defensively, this morning we started studying the big plays that we’ve had against us and how we can stop those because I feel if we can do those two things."

I imagine the Saturday practice depends on how well the Tuesday-Thursday practices go. According to Haley, the team is off to a good start.

"Thought we had a very good practice yesterday, very good practice today. Think the guys are into it, they’re energetic, they’re flying around and I thought it was a competitive, spirited practice."

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Hey! I've got an idea Haley.....

Stop running Martyball in the first half and putting this offense in the hole from the start! I’m sorry, but everybody including my 12 year old daughter knows what we are going to do the first half! We can’t set up the pass with our run game. We just can’t do it….throw the damn ball! Get creative, hell, run the spread! All I know is we don’t have the O-Line to protect OR block! Use the tools you have!

Virtus In Arduo

by carthagechief on Oct 29, 2009 8:39 AM CDT reply actions

Nice throwback post

But I must say I disagree. I think Haley passes all the time. I dont have stats in front of me but I would say its 2 to 1 pass to rush ratio. LJ gets about 20 carries, the backups get about 5…which is pretty average.

by jk86 on Oct 29, 2009 10:29 AM CDT up reply actions

Do you remember in training camp...

When Cassel questioned why they were going to be running the same play again when the defense knew what was coming? And Haley’s response was “Make it work”. Who cares if the defense knows what’s coming. Good football teams make the plays work. Going to the spread or some other gimmick formations may give you some fight. Heck you may win some games here and there, but it doesn’t help you build a Superbowl winning team, and it doesn’t help you build for long term success.

by RA_ChiefsFan on Oct 29, 2009 10:52 AM CDT up reply actions

Nice!

I like that someone else gets this. Winning teams are successful when they line up and make plays work that the defense knows they’re going to run…

If Haley & Co. were going to run gadget plays, they’d never have gotten rid of Bones or Chan Gailey. The Chiefs are going to do this the Parcell’s way, with hard work and grit. Personally, while I recognize that its painful for us this year, I also think this that’s what builds winning franchises…

"Every day is an evaluation and if you’re not out there how can we depend on you? If you’re out there and you don’t know what to do, how can we depend on you?" Accountability -- Haley-style...

by Chief_Elmo on Oct 29, 2009 11:42 AM CDT up reply actions

yes

int he 90’s Nebraska used to line up and run the ball down the middle. they’d dare the opposing defense to stop them.

by TDubb on Oct 29, 2009 12:10 PM CDT up reply actions

My friends and I used to hate Saturday detention.

-cw

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by webby37 on Oct 29, 2009 8:49 AM CDT reply actions 3 recs

by NJ Chiefs Fan on Oct 29, 2009 9:59 AM CDT up reply actions 3 recs

Wow!

Great exchange. Both rec’d!

Arrowhead Pride

by Joel Thorman on Oct 29, 2009 10:04 AM CDT up reply actions

Can you describe the ruckus?

by Daytrip65 on Oct 29, 2009 10:41 AM CDT up reply actions

You got the bull by the horns

by Fourstrike89 on Oct 29, 2009 10:42 AM CDT up reply actions

You mess with the bull...

…you get the horns!

"Every day is an evaluation and if you’re not out there how can we depend on you? If you’re out there and you don’t know what to do, how can we depend on you?" Accountability -- Haley-style...

by Chief_Elmo on Oct 29, 2009 11:39 AM CDT up reply actions

next time I come in here I'm cracking skulls!

by HeatherChiefsLvr on Oct 29, 2009 12:20 PM CDT up reply actions

Don;t you

forget about me.

I’ll be alone, dancing and you know it baby.

So I was thinking that PLAY ACTION + SCREENS + RUSHING would lead to more success on offense. Create a more unique rushing attack!

BLOCK BLOCK BLOCK

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by Peterman700 on Oct 29, 2009 9:02 AM CDT reply actions

Here's an idea...

Perhaps P&H should sign a journeyman WR – allowing them to release another young draft pick – and make him the primary receiver for the Jacksonville game. It’s worked really well so far.

by RDOGuy on Oct 29, 2009 9:38 AM CDT reply actions

Long is a journeyman?

BTW, Quentin Lawrence is now a member of the practice squad, so he is still with the team.

by chrisclark_dfw on Oct 29, 2009 10:49 AM CDT up reply actions

Nope.

Course not. But Wade was.

But since you mention Long, Haley’s statement about Long was that he was brought in to bring a “spark” to the offense. My contention is that until the OL improves, no WR can really do that.

by RDOGuy on Oct 29, 2009 11:05 AM CDT up reply actions

i got an idea as well!

scrap the line and our QB. bring in our 3rd string and DRAFT TALENT. i think several of our “wasted” draftees this year are not even on the field. Only one who is worth a damn is Succop and i think he deserves Cassels paycheck!

by KC_Howlin on Oct 29, 2009 9:39 AM CDT reply actions

One thing he said.......

We’ve got a load of things to work on obviously," he said, “but we’re going to do some self-scouting of ourselves – specifically offensively some of the minus plays and how we prevent those from occurring, when they’re happening, is it a scheme that we’re putting players in a poor position to succeed, is it certain players?”

Maybe he is changing the system around a little bit. If he wants to get close to a top 5 offense, Then they will have to change the blocking scheme. I beleive they are running a zone, I think going to a man to man scheme would help alot. they have to do something about the line because it is atrocious. I wouldnt mind seeing an offense similar to last year. I think Jamal Charles would be great with Haley’s play calling, Draws, Delays, and Mis-Direction plays are the running plays haley seems to like so Maybe Charles’ speed will help the offense where LJ couldn’t.

OHANA!

by darwithabar on Oct 29, 2009 10:14 AM CDT reply actions 2 recs

Good point, rec'd

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by Big Chief on Oct 29, 2009 10:24 AM CDT up reply actions

this would also help the running game

because we dont really have a RB that can properly read zone blocking. It seems as though there have been holes at times, but the back break to them too late or not at all. In addition, I dont think our OL is physically quick enough to handle the zone blocking scheme. You need a relatively small, quicker line to handle the zone and get after LB (think Denver’s OL). Our OL and RB talents are more suited to a man-man blocking scheme.

by chiefsandcigars on Oct 29, 2009 10:55 AM CDT up reply actions