Arrowheadlines: Chiefs News 10/28
by NJ Chiefs Fan on Oct 29, 2009 5:33 AM CDT
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Somewhere under the bad boy façade he loves to wear, Larry Johnson is a very intelligent young man.
So why does he keep doing stupid things?
There are dozens of coaches, counselors, psychologists, friends, teammates and family members that have pondered this subject for years. They haven’t come up with any answers.
As The L.J. Turns … Thursday Cup O’Chiefs from Bob Gretz
Jamaal Charles and Kolby Smith split most of the practice time Wednesday as the Chiefs’ running backs, both of them trying to prove they’re ready for a more significant role.
Charles caught passes during practice, and Smith tested his surgically repaired knee at the team’s indoor facility. Both appeared capable of handling a greater load.
"If they need me," Smith said Wednesday, "I can be used."
They do.
Chiefs suspend Larry Johnson for two weeks from KC Star
Darvin Wallis was unknown to most Chiefs fans during his 19 years working for the team. But believe me when I tell you he was one of the most remarkable men to ever pass through the doors of Arrowhead Stadium.
Wallis passed away over the weekend in a family cabin in Colorado. Details are sketchy at this point but he apparently died in his sleep. He was 60 years old.
RIP Darvin Wallis from Bob Gretz
Darvin Wallis, the second-longest tenured assistant coach in Chiefs history, has died at age 60.
He was in Colorado when he died in his sleep. The cause of his death is unknown.
Wallis accompanied Marty Schottenheimer from Cleveland to Kansas City in 1989 and worked behind the scenes for Schottenheimer, Gunther Cunningham, Dick Vermeil and Herm Edwards as a defensive assistant/quality control coach for 19 years before retiring in January 2008.
Longtime Chiefs assistant coach Wallis dies from KC Star
KC Star Video: LJ situation not a distraction, Cassel says
On Monday, Kansas City Chiefs running back Larry Johnson apparently uttered a homophobic slur in the presence of the media. The statement came hours after he directed a shorter version of the same term at one of the followers of his Twitter page.
By Monday night, the NFL was investigating the situation.
By Tuesday, the Chiefs suspended Johnson indefinitely — while curiously going out of their way to not call it a suspension.
In contrast, Raiders coach Tom Cable, defensive assistant Randy Hanson, and three other assistant coaches emerged from a meeting room in early August. One of them, Hanson, had a broken jaw and he claimed Cable was responsible.
To date, the league has yet to send someone to Oakland to meet with each of the five men in an effort to find out how and why Hanson's jaw became broken.
Lack of NFL intervention in Tom Cable case demonstrates double standard from Sporting News
Ooh, that'll show him.
With such a harsh punishment, I'm surprised the Chiefs didn't use King Pink's full name, "Larry Alphonso Johnson Jr," in the news release.Chiefs send Larry Alphonso Johnson Jr to his room for two weeks from The Pitch
It didn’t take long for Johnson to fire back. Johnson and his agent, Peter Schaffer, intend to appeal the suspension per Mike Florio of Pro Football Talk.
It all boils down to one truth – this could get ugly.
Why? First off, it doesn’t appear that Johnson is truly sorry for his actions. Coming not even 36 hours after his half-hearted, canned apology, his appeal indicates a belief that he doesn’t deserve to be punished. But being banned from Arrowhead for the bye week is no punishment. More than likely, Larry is thrilled to be as far away from Arrowhead Stadium as he possibly can.
So, it’s only fair that the Chiefs suspend him and go after some of his money. That’s what Johnson cares about more than anything, according to his own Twitter comments:
LJ vs The Chiefs: Will It Get Ugly? from WPI
No player tweets today (was there a memo?).
Media and Fans
JoshLooney as a starter - 24-31RT @greydon_004: You mention #Chiefs being 0-12 w/o LJ. What are they with him? I don't think we'll miss him!
JPosnanski KC Chiefs have suspended Larry Johnson for 2 weeks. Wonder how they came up with 2 weeks? Do they have a punishment chart for Twitter Rage?
jstickley: So the #Chiefs suspended LJ. I say they should cut him outright, if only to keep the team rushing record as-is, with Priest. Class matters!!
zergbane: Larry Johnson (KC Chiefs) learned a lesson today. You don't use slurs when you average 2.7 yards a carry. 2006 would have been different.
Hank_Layton: How bout the Chiefs getting a name drop on South Park tonight? Hell yeah. It was a hilarious episode, too!
my331: Why did it take me just now & three months 2 realize my history professor is the same guy that played defensive end 4 the KC Chiefs
tiffieluv87: NFL random fact: Did u know that the KC Chiefs have lost 10 consecutive home games? How would u like 2 be a season tix holder there? All bad
Here's a link to the South Park bit.
clintandrewhall: Apparently, the KC Chiefs could secure a win if the Japanese rush the field: http://bit.ly/KLCNR (at 2:35)
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Somewhere under the bad boy façade he loves to wear, Larry Johnson is a very intelligent young man.
This is why I don’t read Gretz and I have thought and will continue to think he is a Peterson Homer.
An intelligent person doesn’t physically abuse women once, no twice, no three times.
An intelligent person doesn’t screw up his working relationship with not one, not two, but three coaches.
An intelligent person doesn’t use slurs since an intelligent person has a vocabulary that he/she can use to convey an intelligent and meaningful point.
Lastly, an intelligent person doesn’t read Gretz.
Bill Parcell’s: "You are what your record says you are."
"My job is not to collect talent, but to build a team. Individuals make the Pro Bowl. Teams win championships. That is our goal."—Chiefs GM Scott Pioli.
by THE_TRUTH on Oct 29, 2009 7:41 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Wait a minute...
That’s pretty unfair. Bob Gretz does a fantastic job at what he does. Whether or not you agree with what he writes, makes no difference. I disagree with a lot of people’s opinions. That doesn’t mean I don’t respect their opinion, though.
Lastly, an intelligent person doesn’t read Gretz.
I take particular exception to that statement. I read Gretz all the time…and I haven’t noticed a decline in my IQ for doing so.
by Scott B. on Oct 29, 2009 8:22 AM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
rec'd and agreed
hell, I read Gretz and Whitlock and love both of them … different takes on whatever the topic is, and it’s good to see things from different views than your own (or my own)
well said, Scott … now get out there and read more, because The TRUTH is that we all need to respect each other’s opinions, as you rightly noted
Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisiton!
by upamtn on Oct 29, 2009 10:28 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well taht's your opinion and I respect that.
I was perhaps a little too harsh, but I still believe that Gretz’s writiing as well as Whitlocks’ for the majority of their writings….
…is drek.
Just my .02
Bill Parcell’s: "You are what your record says you are."
"My job is not to collect talent, but to build a team. Individuals make the Pro Bowl. Teams win championships. That is our goal."—Chiefs GM Scott Pioli.
by THE_TRUTH on Oct 29, 2009 12:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That’s pretty unfair. Bob Gretz does a fantastic job at what he does.
I respect your opinion, but don’t agree. Know the man, met the man and the man isn’t on my list of authors from the CP era I tend to enjoy reading (most of the time I feel he is way off).
Bill Parcell’s: "You are what your record says you are."
"My job is not to collect talent, but to build a team. Individuals make the Pro Bowl. Teams win championships. That is our goal."—Chiefs GM Scott Pioli.
by THE_TRUTH on Oct 29, 2009 12:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was a little too harsh on the intelligent reading comment
But, Gretz is as good as Mortenson.
Bill Parcell’s: "You are what your record says you are."
"My job is not to collect talent, but to build a team. Individuals make the Pro Bowl. Teams win championships. That is our goal."—Chiefs GM Scott Pioli.
by THE_TRUTH on Oct 29, 2009 12:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Obviously.
There are no intelligent people who continue to make the same mistakes in their lives.
There are no intelligent people who do stupid things.
There are no intelligent people who disagree with other (possibly) intelligent people.
From Webster’s dictionary:
slur – an insulting or disparaging remark or innuendo
I wonder if questioning people’s intelligence in public counts…
“Lastly, an intelligent person doesn’t read Gretz.”
Good day.
Cantaloupe? More like wontaloupe. Lazy ass melons.
by cucuybird on Oct 29, 2009 10:31 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
There are no intelligent people who continue to make the same mistakes in their lives.
Yep, they learn from their mistkes and don’t repeat them.
There are no intelligent people who do stupid things.
I never said that. Now you’re making things up that don’t hold your argument. Intellignet people learn from their mistakes. Everyone is infallible.
There are no intelligent people who disagree with other (possibly) intelligent people.
Again, making things up for a retort that doesn’t hold water.
Bill Parcell’s: "You are what your record says you are."
"My job is not to collect talent, but to build a team. Individuals make the Pro Bowl. Teams win championships. That is our goal."—Chiefs GM Scott Pioli.
by THE_TRUTH on Oct 29, 2009 12:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not saying that you said those things.
I said them myself. The one you said is in
block quotes.
I personally think that not learning from one’s mistakes is a very stupid thing to do, but it is only one facet of a person’s makeup.
You are berating LJ for hurling a slur at a certain group, and at the same time hurling a slur of your own (at Gretz readers).
I don’t think anyone would have a problem with you not liking Gretz’s writing, but calling all of his readers unintelligent is uncalled for. That being said, I do understand that you likely intended it with a grain of salt.
No worries, sir. It’s a message board about football.
GO CHIEFS.
Cantaloupe? More like wontaloupe. Lazy ass melons.
by cucuybird on Oct 29, 2009 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, yeah...
And saying someone is intelligent, yet questioning why they continue to do THE SAME stupid things….
….well that by de facto describes an UN-INTELLIGENT person.
Bill Parcell’s: "You are what your record says you are."
"My job is not to collect talent, but to build a team. Individuals make the Pro Bowl. Teams win championships. That is our goal."—Chiefs GM Scott Pioli.
by THE_TRUTH on Oct 29, 2009 7:46 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
He's intellectually intelligent
but not “Emotionally Intelligent”. He lets his emotions get the best of him…alcohol tends to do that to people.
by jmcgoblue on Oct 29, 2009 8:36 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
rec'd
so do other vices, including way too much money … being spoiled rotten (as many pro athletes are) …
THE TRUTH is it’s not a matter of “intelligence” but a matter of self-control, or rather, lack thereof
Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisiton!
by upamtn on Oct 29, 2009 10:24 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Horse-hockey
An intelligent person LEARNS fromt heir mistakes.
Maybe he needs counseling {rolls-eyes}. How m,any times have we heard of people geting out of jams due to personal choices they make because they were abused or (insert whatever excuse you want here)?
People need to be held accountable and if the “intellignet” ones don’t “learn” from their mistakes, then it just shows their stupidity.
Bill Parcell’s: "You are what your record says you are."
"My job is not to collect talent, but to build a team. Individuals make the Pro Bowl. Teams win championships. That is our goal."—Chiefs GM Scott Pioli.
by THE_TRUTH on Oct 29, 2009 12:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
the problem is he never HAS been held accountable
same goes for a lot of kids in our public (and private) schools – kids can fail all their classes and still go on to the next grade, or next level (middle school to high school) and nobody holds them accountable – the MAJORITY of teachers would love to hold those kids back, but it won’t happen for various reasons (“it will hurt his/her self esteem” or perhaps “it will clog up our system with so many kids in one grade level” or even “it looks bad to others”) … it’s called Social Promotion, and it’s been killing our society for years (“I want it all and I want it now and I don’t want to have to do anything for it”)
again, it has nothing to do with “intelligence” and everything to do with “lack of social skills” and accountability
Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisiton!
by upamtn on Oct 29, 2009 2:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
the problem is he never HAS been held accountable
Actually that’s not entirely correct. He has been held accountable during his last law breaking involvement when he pled “guilty”. He was suspended, he lost his pay for those times and he was also on probation for the said account of spitting. He also lost the arbitration hearing which is “being held accountable” and could have been released without pay. He played the game until he got payed…pretty smart listening to his agent until his stupidity and lack of intelligence reared it’s head.
The problem with all the things that have happenned to him was that he wasn’t “intelligent” enough to realize his mistakes would not be further tolerated. He blew them off and continued to “test” the system.
Those kids in your example as far as I’m concerned (and I’ll rank LJ’s transgressions in the same regard), weren’t intelligent enough to see the error of their ways and one day it’ll be all too obvious to them, if they have any inkling of even minor intelligence.
You attribute it to “lack of social skills”…another term in my opinion that those type of folks use to blame their environment and where they grew up. To me that’s a cop-out.
There are many examples of folks coming from environments with “great social skills” that have screwed their lives due to their “intelligence/stupidity”.
There are also those coming from what some might consider “no social skills environments” (ghetto), that were intelligent enough to accomplish great things regardless of where they came from. Those folks really showed their intelligence.
I don’t blame the system. That’s too easy IMHO.
Bill Parcell’s: "You are what your record says you are."
"My job is not to collect talent, but to build a team. Individuals make the Pro Bowl. Teams win championships. That is our goal."—Chiefs GM Scott Pioli.
by THE_TRUTH on Oct 29, 2009 2:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wtf
Gay slur = 2 weeks
Break a guy’s jaw = nothing
by Throw Up The X on Oct 29, 2009 8:54 AM CDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
Chiefs had info
Chiefs were advised by consultants to the NFL who evaluate players to stay away from this guy. Caveat emptor. Nice going Carl.
by HowSweetItIs on Oct 29, 2009 8:55 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, bad move...
Wouldn’t know what we would have done with all the yards and TD’s he gave the Chiefs in a short period of time.
The Chiefs were actually good the last time Kenny Smith has played in a game. Gives you an idea of how long ago that was. lol
by Chiefsfan85 on Oct 29, 2009 9:22 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
this is worrisome and it's bothered me since yesterday ...
… it doesn’t appear that Johnson is truly sorry for his actions. Coming not even 36 hours after his half-hearted, canned apology, his appeal indicates a belief that he doesn’t deserve to be punished.
have to agree with that – why bother with an appeal if you’re TRULY apologetic? the whole thing just seems wrong (obviously LJ’s actions and tweets and choice of words, but now the appeal as well)
Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisiton!
by upamtn on Oct 29, 2009 10:32 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Money -$600K
It’s obvious he wants to get paid and all the LJ “supporters” that claimed he changed his ways were wrong.
Those that understood his “desire” to go to camp was money based so that he got his roster bonus were right.
Bill Parcell’s: "You are what your record says you are."
"My job is not to collect talent, but to build a team. Individuals make the Pro Bowl. Teams win championships. That is our goal."—Chiefs GM Scott Pioli.
by THE_TRUTH on Oct 29, 2009 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's wasn't necessary for the NFL to investigate the broken jaw...
…because President Obama had all those guys over for a beer. :-)
by RDOGuy on Oct 29, 2009 10:41 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Did anyone notice this quote in the Star?
Haley said his coaching staff is spending its extra time this week installing what the Chiefs hope is a more effective offense. That could mean more emphasis on Charles and, if he’s healthy, Smith.
Going to the Spread maybe?
"The road to Easy Street goes through the sewer."
--John Madden
by cpa913 on Oct 29, 2009 10:50 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
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