Q: Will the rest of the season be a better microcosm or a better example of a Todd Haley...

or, to quote Todd himself

“I can’t go by what I hope, I have to go by what I see”

* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season

by stagdsp on Oct 28, 2009 4:32 PM CDT reply actions

LMAO stag party...

so now what huh???

by krayfish on Oct 28, 2009 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions

Suggestion to Todd Haley to improve the offense:

QUIT RUNNING THE BALL BETWEEN RUDY NISWANGER LEFT AND RIGHT BUTT CHEEK.

Козацькому роду нема переводу

by craig in calgary on Oct 28, 2009 4:44 PM CDT reply actions

Reading the tea leaves here....

but is that a hint that he’s finally going to open up the passing game and let Cassel go for it?

by camucr on Oct 28, 2009 4:50 PM CDT reply actions

I like this.

Aim high. But it is a bit unrealistic.

by worc on Oct 28, 2009 5:02 PM CDT reply actions

Aim...

Aim High and don’t look down.

"Larry Fitzgerald, move over because there's another young gun, and his name is Dwayne Bowe from Kansas City" - 2009 Cris Carter Hall of Fame WR

In Pioli We Trust! Right?

by KC Nate on Oct 28, 2009 5:39 PM CDT up reply actions

we now have a deep threat in Lance Long and if he opens Bowe up more we might just be there...

There's no hope with dope...

by chrisjo07 on Oct 28, 2009 5:06 PM CDT via mobile reply actions

Actually

I see Long as more of the short, possession receiver, something Cassel thrived with last year. I’m okay with dink and dunk to Bowe, Long, and Charles. It’s better than what we’re running now.

I don’t know that we have a deep threat. Our home run threat is Charles, and I think that’s as close as we get.

"I don't know if I want to go to New York. They'll have to pay me a lot more money because I like it here in Kansas City." -- Roger Maris

by KaloPhoenix on Oct 28, 2009 5:14 PM CDT up reply actions

From what I saw of the Chargers game Long and his speed could open up the deep threat a hell of a lot better...but I guess thats just me...

There's no hope with dope...

by chrisjo07 on Oct 28, 2009 5:18 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions

that "almost TD" of his was amazing...

I hope they keep throwing to him, he’s fun to watch

* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season

by stagdsp on Oct 28, 2009 5:19 PM CDT up reply actions

I still think it was "too close to call" so they went with the original

I think his hand was underneath the ball the whole time, but it was so close to the ground that it look like it hit. So I think it was a damn good catch.

Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend. Inside of a dog it's too dark to read. - Groucho Marx

by Big Chief on Oct 28, 2009 6:56 PM CDT up reply actions

I too thought his hands were underneath it

But I was watching it online and not on HD.

by NotAHippie on Oct 28, 2009 7:11 PM CDT up reply actions

It wasn't a catch.

But I do think it was tipped before it got to him. Nice route, nice throw, nice play by the DB.

I like Long. I think he could do good things for us.

"I don't know if I want to go to New York. They'll have to pay me a lot more money because I like it here in Kansas City." -- Roger Maris

by KaloPhoenix on Oct 28, 2009 11:58 PM CDT up reply actions

His hands are questionable...

He should have caught that, I do think he can be a decent slot receiver

by darwithabar on Oct 28, 2009 6:59 PM CDT up reply actions

that would have been an amazing catch

I don’t think you can call his hands questionable because of that effort

* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season

by stagdsp on Oct 28, 2009 7:01 PM CDT up reply actions

He was fully extended

& laying out & caught the ball as he hit the ground & it did appear that even though he caught the ball, it also hit the ground. It would have been an amazing catch, had it been granted & (as you said) definitely not a knock on his hands for that one!

by ttownmikey on Oct 28, 2009 9:09 PM CDT up reply actions

Out of the slot or out wide, his quickness is something to be reckoned with.

Basically, he’s a 3rd receiver that few #3 corners are going to be able to cover. His presence gives KC something that poses matchup problems that they didn’t have with Engram or Lawrence in the slot.

This may be sacrilege, but I’d be interested to see what might happen with Wade, Bradley and Long on the field together.

No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.

by hmills110 on Oct 28, 2009 11:49 PM CDT up reply actions

I'm cool with that

as long as Bowe is there in a 4WR set. =)

"I don't know if I want to go to New York. They'll have to pay me a lot more money because I like it here in Kansas City." -- Roger Maris

by KaloPhoenix on Oct 28, 2009 11:59 PM CDT up reply actions

Have Bowe

run more of the possession, tight end type route after the others pull the secondary in opposite directions!

by ttownmikey on Oct 29, 2009 10:31 PM CDT up reply actions

yeah, that's pretty much true

I LOVED that long pass to Charles… if that had been a little more on target, or he could have adjusted to the ball a little better, that’s a BIG TD.

The thing is, Bradley CAN get deep, Charles can, Wade can, Bowe can…
Deep slants, outs, posts, etc… any of the Chiefs receivers CAN get them done…
IF Cassel has time, and is on target.

People say the Chiefs are in desperate need of a “deep threat”… I disagree. they are in desperate need of better execution on the OL and with the players they have.

I think Long will be a great addition, and will be able to get open with his quickness, and make some tough catches.

* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season

by stagdsp on Oct 28, 2009 5:18 PM CDT up reply actions

"Wade can"

watching that guy crawl along on punt returns is painfull. The only way I see that guy getting open deep is if the safety falls asleep waiting for him to get off the line of scrimmage.

It's a good thing Pioli and Haley aren't running AP or a lot of you guys would of been traded or cut for cast offs from the Pats Pulpit.

by KCporkchop on Oct 28, 2009 5:59 PM CDT up reply actions

he's got a few 20+ yard catches this season

if I’m not mistaken

and Cassel just missed him on that deep slant vs San Diego

* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season

by stagdsp on Oct 28, 2009 6:16 PM CDT up reply actions

Yeah that Hurt, I like Wade

by darwithabar on Oct 28, 2009 7:01 PM CDT up reply actions

I like him, too.

But he gets open the way Hines Ward gets open. Ward’s Pitt’s #1 WR, but he’s not scaring secondaries with his speed. His success is part (BIG part) Roethlisberger and part his lack of speed earning him the lesser DB in (single) coverage.

No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.

by hmills110 on Oct 28, 2009 11:51 PM CDT up reply actions

And route running and physicality

I think Ward’s a little past his prime, and I too think Big Ben has made him better, but he’s got secondaries scared with his blocking. A play action pass with Hines running towards them makes them think twice about what’s going to happen. He’s made his own, and one of the few WR that make a strong safety think twice.

"I don't know if I want to go to New York. They'll have to pay me a lot more money because I like it here in Kansas City." -- Roger Maris

by KaloPhoenix on Oct 29, 2009 12:02 AM CDT up reply actions

Lance Long is a deap threat? Laughable

"What?!?! I aint no Obama for the weed!"
-Turk McBride

by HIV 2 Elway on Oct 28, 2009 7:22 PM CDT up reply actions

How about 2 more wins Todd?

by FrankPitts on Oct 28, 2009 7:14 PM CDT reply actions

BABY STEPS!

Desperately hoping for Desperate Measures

by averagegatsby on Oct 28, 2009 7:23 PM CDT up reply actions

I could see three more at east

Raiders (yes I know we lost the first time), Bills and Browns.

by bh13 on Oct 28, 2009 7:44 PM CDT up reply actions

agreed

that’d be 4-12, and about what was expected, I guess.

* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season

by stagdsp on Oct 28, 2009 7:52 PM CDT up reply actions

Really?

I saw a lot of comments like that at the beginning of the season – the theory being that once the Chiefs got through the NFC East teams early on, they’d do a lot better in their division games against the lowly AFC West, and against the Bengals and Browns.

Made sense at the time… but neither I (or anybody else, I think) anticipated Denver would be playing as well as they are. And the Bengals are 5-2.

Started wondering about this yesterday, and did a little arithmetic. The Chiefs are 1-6 though the first seven games, against teams with a combined record of 18-20. The last nine games are against teams with a combined record of 34-25.

by RDOGuy on Oct 28, 2009 8:37 PM CDT up reply actions

Philly's faded some, with their O-Line fragmenting.

Baltimore’s faded. The pre-season strength of schedule calculations aren’t all that far off, with the exception of Denver and Cincy. The schedule after the bye IS easier. Then again, the Chiefs are much worse than my preseason predictions…

No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.

by hmills110 on Oct 28, 2009 11:57 PM CDT up reply actions

So if he wants a top 5 offense

who are the other 4?

VIkings
Patriots
Saints
Colts?

Desperately hoping for Desperate Measures

by averagegatsby on Oct 28, 2009 7:26 PM CDT reply actions

maybe he meant top five in the AFC West

haha :)

* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season

by stagdsp on Oct 28, 2009 7:37 PM CDT reply actions