Go Ahead. Let Haley off and blame LJ for everything

by 58 was my friend on Oct 26, 2009 4:41 PM CDT Comment 23 comments

Here are the current rushing average of featured running backs of their respective teams through Week 7 of the NFL season

NFL rushing stats

Larry Johnson 2.7 yds - Team 1-6

Steve Jackson 4.4 yds - Team 0-7

Chris Johnson 6.3 yds - Team 0-6

Ronnie Brown 4.5 yds - Team 2-4

Brandon Jacobs 3.9 yds - Team 5-2

Michael Turner 3.4 yds - Team 4-2

Knowshown Moreno 3.8 yds - Team 6-0

Steve Slaton 3.1 yds - Team 4-3

Joseph Addai 3.3 yds - Team 6-0

Asking why I posted and chose these backs? The difference between backs with great rushing average and backs with bad rushing average will not determined the success of their teams. Note here that every back in that list with less than 4.0 yds average with a winning record have something in common - multiple threats - its not just about the running back. Most of them have a good/great QB. (with exception to Denver) I also want to point out that the winning teams have a very good coach. Its evident with Den unless some may argue its the talent.

We all want to point the fingers at LJ for not producing thus not helping us win. What about the other RBs I have on the list with amazing rushing averages? What do they all have in common? Yes - no other offensive threat other than their RB. On top of that, they have a mediocre QB. At this point, you have to admit that Cassel is not worth the money given to him. Rams have Bulger, Fins have Henne, Titans have Collins but all three teams possess a "STUD" running back . Many have called out LJ for not being able to run and not having great averages this season. I wanted to show you guys that despite having a STUD RB, you will still suck. The fact that we are all so quick to find a scapegoat in LJ is simply because he screwed up in the past and pissed off more than his share of media.

Without LJ in the backfield each week, I can guarantee that KC will have ZERO chance of being competitive. ZERO! Defenses gameplan to stop LJ and without LJ, they will have to try and stop who? Succop?

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I don't get it????

Are you really saying that we can’t win because we won’t have LJ and his 2.4 YPC average anymore????

Didn’t we just go over this in another thread? Savage and Charles will be far more effective at moving the ball than LJ has been. It will also make it much easier to disguise the offense.

LJ is a hindrance, NOT an asset.

by Chiefsfan1970 on Oct 26, 2009 4:52 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

So

If Jamaal or Dantrell amazed more than 5.0 per carry and we loose? Then what else are you guys wanting to pull out of the hat?

Predictions as of 06.24.2009.

Larry Johnson will be a top 3 fantasy pick once again in 2010 (after a monster season in 2009.)
Dwayne Bowe will be a 2009 Pro Bowl selection.
Brandon Flowers will have at least 6 INTs in 2009 season.
Todd Haley will have a sideline shouting match caught on TV yelling at one of his asst. coaches.

by 58 was my friend on Oct 26, 2009 5:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

This regime plays the BEST 53

They think will help them win. Dantrell and Jamaal are good and sometimes flashes of greatness when use in spurts. Wait and see if they become the feature back. All it takes is one 1-2 game film on them by opposing defense coordinators – and you’ll see Charles and Savage average go to match LJ’s.

On the other hand, perhaps the coaching staff, all of them not just Haley doesn’t want to put the game in the hands of smaller backs, injury, durability, fumbling…we don’t know. As bad as LJ was in the off-field dramas, they coaches kept him as the feature back. Why? maybe they know there’s more in the tank OR they know they got no one else capable of ABSORBING the punishment of running behind a shitty line week in week out. 25+ times/game.

I do wanna see Charles/Savage combo split 38-45 carries between them, some screen options. But when that fails, you gonna a tough back. I am beginning to suspect Kolby Smith is prolonging his injury to stay the heck away from running behind this shitty line.

Predictions as of 06.24.2009.

by 58 was my friend on Oct 26, 2009 5:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Whats your point???

by Chiefsfan1970 on Oct 26, 2009 7:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

My point is

If you guys are simply wanting to see if Jamaal or Dantrell can put on some entertainment on Sundays, I’m for that. But in no way should you keep suggesting that those two backs can improve our team while LJ is doing what he’s told by coaches to do.

1. Wanting to see players you’ve not seen enough of is one thing
2. Continue to bash LJ at all cause and every chance you guys get is getting old

Predictions as of 06.24.2009.

by 58 was my friend on Oct 26, 2009 9:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

So

LJ can’t rush anymore and essentially gets hit and drops immediately instead of fighting for yardage, so therefore, we should think it’s totally okay for him to use homosexual slurs and publicly question the coach even though that does nothing but creates distractions for his teammates. Got it.

Perhaps you should start a website called LARRYJOHNSONCANSPITONBITCHESIFHEPLEASES.COM. That might be a better location for your thoughts and feelings.

Haley’s on his first chance, less than a year in on the job. LJ’s on his last leg after multiple screw-ups, and he’s turned into a shitty back. You want to blame Haley, blame LJ. You want to blame the line, blame LJ. They’re all in it together.

http://hardwoodparoxysm.com

by Ridiculous Matt on Oct 26, 2009 4:54 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Oh, and you left one off

Jamal Charles: 5.0 yards per rush.

Huh. That’s odd…

http://hardwoodparoxysm.com

by Ridiculous Matt on Oct 26, 2009 4:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I don't blame anyone

but LJ for LJ’s actions. He needs to be held accountable for his words and for his actions.

by HeatherChiefsLvr on Oct 26, 2009 5:03 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

i agree

it really pisses me off that everyone is putting all this damn blame on him. Perhaps some of yall arent paying attention but our is o-line sucks from top to bottom…how the fuck do you expect LJ to do anything with that bull shit line of ours.

by dshyne101 on Oct 26, 2009 5:04 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

I agree the o-line isn't helping LJ, but his words reflect something worse than onfield performance.

That is what all the hoopla is about. He’s not showing respect to people, therefore he’s being ousted.

Believe me, I wanted him to succeed for the TEAM and the o-line wasn’t helping him out. But then he just came out and threw his coach under the bus and because offensive towards people. If he just kept his mouth shut the mob wouldn’t have formed and called for his head. It’s a character issue now.

by worc on Oct 26, 2009 5:27 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs

yep

* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season

by stagdsp on Oct 26, 2009 5:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

became* offensive towards people...

Also don’t forget it’s a TEAM game. He turned on his team with his actions. Now it’s a huge distraction. It’s not about his stats. It’s about the negativity and problems he is bringing that hurting the focus of the team.

by worc on Oct 26, 2009 5:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Trust me, they aren’t going to let LJ slide. If they’re going to suspend or cut him, they have to be careful what they say before the action is taken for NFLPA/arbitration purposes.

I'm officially on the 'Draft Eric Berry' train.

by scottbwalters on Oct 26, 2009 6:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

The only reason for keeping LJ this year...

was to make an example out of him the first time he spouted off. Oh, wait, it’s too late! Haley will never get any respect with these players, or any other players.

by 12t on Oct 26, 2009 5:19 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

I want the drugs that you are taking

by RedZoneMan on Oct 26, 2009 6:12 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Bring on the committee. J Charles and D Savage will be joined by Kolby Smith soon enough. I think Smith has a chance to really make an impact and emerge as more of the every down back from the three when he comes back.

I'm officially on the 'Draft Eric Berry' train.

by scottbwalters on Oct 26, 2009 6:42 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

I really don't think Smith is very good.

Maybe he will prove me wrong but, I think Savage and Charles are MUCH better players.

by Chiefsfan1970 on Oct 26, 2009 7:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I think they are better players too, but...

Colquitt is arguably the best player on the team. Doesn’t mean he can handle carrying the rock 25 times a game. Charles, maybe. Savage. No way.

Smith is the best bet to be able to actually wear down a defense over the course of 4 quarters and survive the experience.

The Chiefs are on their way to an 11-5 season...I think....
Okay, so it'll be 10-6, I can live with that...

by mushin on Oct 26, 2009 7:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Lol....

So the only two parts of the game that we should look at are a coach (who has coached less than half a season) and a RB?

Sorry…noone is blaming LJ alone for the losses…They are blaming him for his derogatory remarks and his conduct detrimental to the team…

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by woodman212 on Oct 26, 2009 6:49 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

58 - this whole Larry thing isn't about on-field performance (or lack thereof)

in fact, it’s not REALLY even about his Haley Is A Golfer tweet …

… it’s about everything ELSE he tweeted after that … on top of today’s outburst … on top of everything ELSE he’s done in the past

pile it all up, and keep piling it all up, sooner or later it’s bound to topple over … and that’s what today is all about … Larry’s $hitpile just fell over, and it’s so damn big it’s gonna bury him

is Haley the best HC/OC since sliced bread? not in MY book, never really liked him from the get-go, but TODAY has NOTHING to do with Haley or football, and EVERYTHING to do with LJ’s pile

Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisiton!

by upamtn on Oct 26, 2009 7:09 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs

Thank you

You made your point clear unlike everyone else thats been going back and forth against my take of this debacle. It just so happend that we fell to a division FOE, and LJ lost it. Thats all I’m saying. But you need FUEL to light the fire.

LJ has always been a bad taste in KC fans mouth. He is the fire but when he can be controlled in better circumstances, we won;t be discussing this. On the other hand, Haley – he is the FUEL, the FUEL that gets our engine going and also the one that gets the glory when the team succeeds. but nobody is taking shots at him. But you finally did. so Thanks.

Predictions as of 06.24.2009.

by 58 was my friend on Oct 26, 2009 9:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

dude, if you think this is the first time that I or anyone else has raised a concern about Haley then you are wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy off base

look, are you new here? you just log on to bash people about bashing LJ? I have no clue, nor do I care … your lame posts are worn and tiring, and all you do is spout cliches that go nowhere … and why? because you’re posting in support of someone who has done everything possible to lose whatever goodwill this community has to offer …

again, this whole thing TODAY has NOTHING to do with football and EVERYTHING to do with LJ being a total jackass and then some … he’s a clueless, classless, tasteless, sad sorry excuse for a human being who brings disgrace to MY community and MY football team and I want him GONE GONE GONE … I could care less if he runs for a MILLION yards and scores a MILLION touchdowns … DROP the Haley thing and get your priorities straight, which is something LJ himself apparantly can’t or won’t do

end of discussion!

Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisiton!

by upamtn on Oct 26, 2009 11:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

+1

There’s plenty of blame to go around for how bad the team is performing, and that includes in the coaching staff.

However, in a completely different aspect that has nothing to do with games themselves. Look at Larry’s Twitter page (or how it was, at least, until he deleted some of his posts), and watch Haley’s press conference yesterday afternoon. There’s a world of difference in how the two are handling the losing…

by jbj8609 on Oct 27, 2009 12:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs