Chiefs Coach Declines Comment on Larry Johnson Situation...Kinda
by Joel Thorman on Oct 26, 2009 3:46 PM CDT
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Kansas City Chiefs head coach Todd Haley is meeting with the media as of this posting and opened the session by declining to comment on the Larry Johnson Twitter incident.
"I realize there are probably going to be a lot of questions about a player of ours," he said. "At this time, we're looking into a couple of situations and I will not have further comment on that."
"I will say that how our players conducts themselves with the media and through the media is very important to myself as the head coach of the Chiefs and to the Chiefs as an organization."
Reporters followed up with more questions about the derogatory slurs used by LJ.
"Again," Haley said, "I'm not going to go into that any further because we are looking into that situation.
And again.
"We are gathering facts so to speak," he said.
He was asked if he felt he still had the locker room, which is an important question at this juncture because some are speculating that LJ's comments about Haley aren't that off-base. Some say that LJ's the only one who will publicly say that.
"When you have, at 1-5, your best week in practice," Haley said, "I think that's a pretty encouraging sign. I feel very good about the progress this team is making. It was not reflected in our performance yesterday and that's the disappointing part."
Haley was asked about his thoughts on Twitter in general and declined to discuss it much. He was asked a similar question in training camp and said he understood text messaging but not Twitter. He said he has never looked at it.
"How men conduct themselves," he continued, "and how men represent the Chiefs, is very very important to me and to our owner and our general manager.
Haley was asked if he would ever be offended if someone questioned his coaching ability just because he didn't play football.
"Never, never be offended," he said.
"I think I'm here for a reason, and I think I've earned what I have in the NFL through hard work, execution and results. If playing is a prerequisite for being a great coach, you can eliminate some names. I'm here to coach. I'm not here to play. And that's the bottomline."
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Is anyone shocked Haley gave you nothing?
by golfbard on Oct 26, 2009 3:49 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I suspect they are going to talk to LJ before saying anything to the media
which is proper. I also wonder if they are talking to the league office. LJ’s Haley tweets are a team matter, but the comments and the twitter wars with the fans is something I think the league is going to want to have some say about.
Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend. Inside of a dog it's too dark to read. - Groucho Marx
by Big Chief on Oct 26, 2009 3:59 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
DO NOT CUT LJ
Suspend him (without pay) for conduct detrimental to the team for the rest of the year, and then cut his bitch ass….
by Tomahawk_Chop on Oct 26, 2009 3:50 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
You can only do that for 4 games
And then he’s still in the locker room after that.
by Joel Thorman on Oct 26, 2009 3:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
FAIR ENOUGH...
Use those 4 games to take money out of his pocket, then cut him.
by Tomahawk_Chop on Oct 26, 2009 3:53 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
That does us no good though
He’d be wasting a roster spot for those 4 games that could be used on a player that actually gives a shit and has some ability to contribute. Not to mention, he’d be a HUGE cancer on the locker room for that entire month as well.
If they’re gonna cut him then do it sooner rather than later. The sooner his locker is empty the sooner we can bring somebody in that wants to work and help the team rather than bitch and moan.
Bask in the glory that is Kwame Harris. Poor Alex...
by JHWK on Oct 26, 2009 4:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can we place him on IR?
Winning begins with Attitude - Haley and Pioli will be winners in KC!
I'll forever be a Chiefs fan! Only God himself could take that away from me, but when I get to my great reward, I'll rejoin two bigger fans, my Mom and Dad.
by Lanier63 on Oct 26, 2009 4:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not entirely sure
I’d guess it’s possible? Anybody able to clarify?
Bask in the glory that is Kwame Harris. Poor Alex...
by JHWK on Oct 26, 2009 4:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
he reinjured his mouth!
Winning begins with Attitude - Haley and Pioli will be winners in KC!
I'll forever be a Chiefs fan! Only God himself could take that away from me, but when I get to my great reward, I'll rejoin two bigger fans, my Mom and Dad.
by Lanier63 on Oct 26, 2009 4:09 PM CDT up reply actions 6 recs
Injured Mouth
(Diarria of the mouth)
Rec’d
"The road to Easy Street goes through the sewer."
--John Madden
by cpa913 on Oct 26, 2009 4:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Its a matter of principal…I don’t think a change at running back is going to turn the season around
by Tomahawk_Chop on Oct 26, 2009 4:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't either
but who said we have to replace him with a RB? And even if it doesn’t “turn the season around” it’s a step in the right direction. It means checking out other possibilities and thinking long term.
Keeping LJ on the team just to prove a point seems like a huge waste of a roster spot though.
Bask in the glory that is Kwame Harris. Poor Alex...
by JHWK on Oct 26, 2009 4:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
At this point
I don’t think we have a HUGELY important roster spot
by Tomahawk_Chop on Oct 26, 2009 4:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd argue the exact opposite
when you’ve got as many holes to fill as we do, EVERY roster spot becomes valuable.
Bask in the glory that is Kwame Harris. Poor Alex...
by JHWK on Oct 26, 2009 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
They will have to make a decision on Kolby Smith
and I think that would involve moving someone off the roster. I think.
I remember Dawson to Taylor, Kenney to Carson, and Blackledge catching the snap in his facemask. Seen it all...
by BinSC on Oct 26, 2009 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
and who better than Toonicon!
Winning begins with Attitude - Haley and Pioli will be winners in KC!
I'll forever be a Chiefs fan! Only God himself could take that away from me, but when I get to my great reward, I'll rejoin two bigger fans, my Mom and Dad.
by Lanier63 on Oct 26, 2009 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
that's what I'm thinking...
bad timing, idiot, bad timing
* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season
by stagdsp on Oct 26, 2009 4:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
At this point
It Ain’t the Point at all
We Will kick at least 4 Teams Asses in 09
And Succop will be the Key in two of them.
" Think and talk positive football off the field." Hank Stram
by Steve_Chiefs on Oct 26, 2009 4:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
wow... wasted roster spot.
Are we really that deep?
by 12t on Oct 26, 2009 5:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
How were the bucs able to suspend Keyshawn the rest of the season?
by TonyG88 on Oct 26, 2009 4:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That was the reason the 4 game limit was added.
by Bra on Oct 26, 2009 4:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
They didn't suspend him for more than 4 games
They kept him on the 53 man roster but not on the active game day roster. They had to keep paying him after those 4 games.
Predictions for 2009:
LJ runs for 1800 yards
Bowe in the pro bowl
Chiefs D finishes in the top 10 in points allowed
Chiefs 10-6
by bonesjackson on Oct 26, 2009 4:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
How many times
are you going to post the same thing? Now I’m done!
by Tomahawk_Chop on Oct 26, 2009 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
They didn't
They kept him on the roster but didn’t activate him. They had to pay him for all those games beyond 4.
Predictions for 2009:
LJ runs for 1800 yards
Bowe in the pro bowl
Chiefs D finishes in the top 10 in points allowed
Chiefs 10-6
by bonesjackson on Oct 26, 2009 4:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
How many times
are you going to post the exact same thing?
Predictions for 2009:
LJ runs for 1800 yards
Bowe in the pro bowl
Chiefs D finishes in the top 10 in points allowed
Chiefs 10-6
by bonesjackson on Oct 26, 2009 4:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Its true, He isnt a good player not even average....
The Packers o line is equally as bad as ours and Ryan Grant does fine, LJ is not an average player anymore so why keep him, eat the cap and send him on his way so he can be picked up by the pats for a mil a year.
by darwithabar on Oct 26, 2009 4:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m sure Scott Pioli will do what’s best for the team.
by Chief-Eli on Oct 26, 2009 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
except get O-Line to protect his QB
Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisiton!
by upamtn on Oct 26, 2009 4:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
right move
i would love to see him sit on the sidelines poutting while he watches other guys get “his” carries. especially if the others(kobly jamaal savage) preform better which i think is a great possiblilty. if you have an o-line that doesnt make BIG holes or even any then ur back should be shifty enough to make someone miss or be quick enough to hit the holes quicker. both of which LJ obviously cant do. i say go with kolby smith!!! fresh legs one cut downhill runner with enough power and size to take and delivery punishment
by emmy12 on Oct 26, 2009 5:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
“I’m here to coach. I’m not here to coach” I think you got something wrong there in the transcribing what he said.
by dablueguy on Oct 26, 2009 3:50 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
man you'd think I posted that!
something was left out I think.
Winning begins with Attitude - Haley and Pioli will be winners in KC!
I'll forever be a Chiefs fan! Only God himself could take that away from me, but when I get to my great reward, I'll rejoin two bigger fans, my Mom and Dad.
by Lanier63 on Oct 26, 2009 3:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You are so good with the liquid paper!!!
Winning begins with Attitude - Haley and Pioli will be winners in KC!
I'll forever be a Chiefs fan! Only God himself could take that away from me, but when I get to my great reward, I'll rejoin two bigger fans, my Mom and Dad.
by Lanier63 on Oct 26, 2009 3:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think I have seen you
somewhere else…..
Predictions for 2009:
LJ runs for 1800 yards
Bowe in the pro bowl
Chiefs D finishes in the top 10 in points allowed
Chiefs 10-6
by bonesjackson on Oct 26, 2009 4:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jammal is growing on him (Haley)
I bet he looks like a stud to Haley now, since LJ ripped him.
by golfbard on Oct 26, 2009 3:52 PM CDT reply actions 2 recs
And he said Kolby "Looks like a running back"
as opposed to a duck or LJ
by golfbard on Oct 26, 2009 3:53 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Our duck (LJ) does seem to have a recording device in it.
About the Chiefs: I'd rather be a realist than a pessimist
by Red N Gold Beast on Oct 26, 2009 7:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Haley likes
“..the way Kolby Smith looks, the way he ACTS…”
by bwelch37 on Oct 26, 2009 3:53 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Not surprising
As predicted, Haley said the matter will be handled internally. His responses show a guy with a lot of class.
I like Todd Haley more and more each week.
by Nick Britt on Oct 26, 2009 3:57 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Class....
How? This should have been a quick decision, LJ your gone, now waddle out of the door if you can find it.
by darwithabar on Oct 26, 2009 4:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He could have easily gone off the deep end and thrown the insults back in Larry's face
instead, he took it like a man and refused to air the dirty laundry, so to speak, in public. It takes a lot to eat that kind of behavior and stick to your guns about not going public with anything in-house until everything has been finalized.
Bask in the glory that is Kwame Harris. Poor Alex...
by JHWK on Oct 26, 2009 4:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Go do what Haley did
What do you mean how? Do you not know what class is? Cutting LJ outright or starting a war of words with LJ would be classless. Hell, look at LJs Twitter behavior — that is classless. Look at Haley’s response — the epitome of class. Simple deductive reasoning here, no higher level thinking required.
Go stand up on that podium after you have just been called out and disrespected in front of your team, your organizaiton, and the entire world (Twitter is public) and face a barrage from reporters questioning the same thing. Very few people would have the self-discipline and CLASS to handle the situation as Haley has thus far. Unfortunately, it doesn’t get any easier.
We have already discussed why cutting LJ outright would be a stupid decision and the wrong choice. There is a good chance we can get out of paying a lot of his contract based on his conduct.
by Nick Britt on Oct 26, 2009 4:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey Joel! (or anyone else)
do you guys have any contract figures on what’s left on LJ’s contract after this year, and what the cap hit would be if released?
by 1kmilesfromkc on Oct 26, 2009 4:00 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Cap hits not a problem
Because he’s getting his $3.75 million this year. After this year, they’re in the clear.
So, they can cut him now and lose nothing.
by Joel Thorman on Oct 26, 2009 4:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
excellent
although-if he’s suspended can we recoup any of his salary?
by 1kmilesfromkc on Oct 26, 2009 4:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
oh
and thanks a lot for the quick reply!
by 1kmilesfromkc on Oct 26, 2009 4:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
we trained Joel well in the "old" days of AP!
Winning begins with Attitude - Haley and Pioli will be winners in KC!
I'll forever be a Chiefs fan! Only God himself could take that away from me, but when I get to my great reward, I'll rejoin two bigger fans, my Mom and Dad.
by Lanier63 on Oct 26, 2009 4:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I believe
We can suspend him for conduct detrimental to the team. The max is four games and that is without pay.
by Joel Thorman on Oct 26, 2009 4:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
and that's a start *huge grin*
Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisiton!
by upamtn on Oct 26, 2009 4:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have to admit...
…I’m watching the press conference live, and as bad as the team is now, and as frustrated as Haley obviously has to be. You don’t see him lose his temper, and take it out on the press during conferences. He handles himself pretty well during the questioning, and even still manages to have fun with the crowd (he was joking with a guy who mentioned that he looks about as bad as he’s seen him all year). Larry could really take a cue from that. Keep your frustrations behind the scenes.
All I’m saying is, at the very least, I’m impressed with how Haley handles the press in the midst of all that’s going on and its a shame that some “other” members from the team don’t have that kind of discipline and reservation.
by jbj8609 on Oct 26, 2009 4:03 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
It's called being an adult and a man
something LJ hasn’t done much of during his tenure in KC.
Bask in the glory that is Kwame Harris. Poor Alex...
by JHWK on Oct 26, 2009 4:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
guess Haley took what Jason said this morning to heart ... good for him
Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisiton!
by upamtn on Oct 26, 2009 4:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Haley impresses me a great deal. This stuff TAKES TIME.
by Chief-Eli on Oct 26, 2009 4:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm done with LJ
I have his jersey, and have supported him to this point. The duct tape is coming out, and “WHINER” is being scribbled in over his nameplate.
LJ- Have a little self respect. It was nice of you to give your dad his props, but you need to thank him for showing you how to run into people and fall down, too. Where’s his thanks for that? Also, you should thank him for getting you onto the team at Penn State and convincing the coach to give you a shot your senior year so you could be drafted by the Chiefs and become the highest paid panzie on the team. Go back to playing adolescents on Madden, that’s the only place you’re ever going to be good again.
Can I be your Batman?
by IISaiNtII on Oct 26, 2009 4:03 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
You forgot to tell him to thank his Dad for doing such a horrible job raising him
Bask in the glory that is Kwame Harris. Poor Alex...
by JHWK on Oct 26, 2009 4:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
his contract is not garunteed until Nov 1
And if the league decides to take action for 2 conduct violations, this would be violation number 3 and 4. They could just supsned him for the rest of the season or for one month each, effectively leaving one game left. I would say that the Chiefs are going to wait to see what the league officials want to do with it.
by Tigkoly on Oct 26, 2009 4:03 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I dont know
Why Todd Haley kept talking about how he is just so happy about the progression the team has made…..he must be seeing things that we cant see….or this team was way worse at first then I initially thought
"Its going to be a challenge, its going to feel like forever, and there will be difficulties. But we will emerge on the other side of it stronger than we were when we entered." ~ Sudden
by Matt_Grbac on Oct 26, 2009 4:07 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
you think he's going to go out and say we're worse now than before?
Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisiton!
by upamtn on Oct 26, 2009 4:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well no but he should be real.
It reminded me of Herms press conferences. Just telling you a bunch of horse shit to get you off his back and make you think he is in control.
"Its going to be a challenge, its going to feel like forever, and there will be difficulties. But we will emerge on the other side of it stronger than we were when we entered." ~ Sudden
by Matt_Grbac on Oct 26, 2009 4:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
see? it's better already ... Herm's back!
Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisiton!
by upamtn on Oct 26, 2009 4:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
kinda like
“You play to win the game” what we missed was, “We dont ,but everyone else does!”
Winning begins with Attitude - Haley and Pioli will be winners in KC!
I'll forever be a Chiefs fan! Only God himself could take that away from me, but when I get to my great reward, I'll rejoin two bigger fans, my Mom and Dad.
by Lanier63 on Oct 26, 2009 4:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Todd Haley needs a quote to make fun of....
How about….
From his remarks to Croyle on the sidelines…..
Haley looks in the mirror…..
“Coach the F*cking team!!!” “Coach the F*cking team!!!”
"Its going to be a challenge, its going to feel like forever, and there will be difficulties. But we will emerge on the other side of it stronger than we were when we entered." ~ Sudden
by Matt_Grbac on Oct 26, 2009 4:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Haley at least takes responsibilty
If this was Herm’s conference today it would have somehow been the players fault on the bad playcalling. At least Haley admits that he had bad playcalling in the game.
by Jawookie on Oct 26, 2009 4:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think the team was just way more fucked than anyone really realized
Herm, and to a greater extent King Carl, did one hell of a number on this franchise and it’s not gonna be easy to fix.
Bask in the glory that is Kwame Harris. Poor Alex...
by JHWK on Oct 26, 2009 4:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Now I think Dick should be credited there also
Winning begins with Attitude - Haley and Pioli will be winners in KC!
I'll forever be a Chiefs fan! Only God himself could take that away from me, but when I get to my great reward, I'll rejoin two bigger fans, my Mom and Dad.
by Lanier63 on Oct 26, 2009 4:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually
Carl Peterson and Marty Schottenheimer made one hell of a team……
Carl Peterson and Dick Vermeil made one hell of a team…..
Carl Peterson and Herm Edwards were a major fail…..
Cant blame it all on Carl…..well I guess he did hire Herm…..nevermind.
"Its going to be a challenge, its going to feel like forever, and there will be difficulties. But we will emerge on the other side of it stronger than we were when we entered." ~ Sudden
by Matt_Grbac on Oct 26, 2009 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
right
except Dick’s approach left us totally battered in the long run. He went and signed a lot of skilled, respected, veteran free agents to our team that got us lots of wins and a great team, but everyone knew it couldn’t last. Dick knew it couldn’t last. He knew he wasn’t in this job for the long term, so he went the “win now” route. Unfortunately it never brought us a playoff win. And then those veterans got old, less skilled and some retired. Which left Herm with a dying team, and thus the rebuilding job that had to happen, from the bottom up this time (aka through the draft).
We are living with the results of Vermeil’s approach. Herm didn’t help at all, though. I’m not putting the blame solely on Vermeil, I am a huge fan of his, but regardless, a lot of this has to do with him. I’m also not completely vindicating Herm. Just saying a lot of it has to do with Vermeil.
by bwelch37 on Oct 26, 2009 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
well lets all agree
when Marty left it took three coaches, 1 GM and 10 years to fuck it up! LOL
Winning begins with Attitude - Haley and Pioli will be winners in KC!
I'll forever be a Chiefs fan! Only God himself could take that away from me, but when I get to my great reward, I'll rejoin two bigger fans, my Mom and Dad.
by Lanier63 on Oct 26, 2009 4:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
We will get get back there fellas,
cutting LJ will be a good start, we now get back to hardnosed players who wanna be Chiefs!
LJ realy screwed up this time, he has had many chances, suspend him for the season, keep him out of Chiefs facilities.
by Eric Allen on Oct 26, 2009 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who wants to play for us
We suck and our coach berates players on the sideline…..who wants any part of that?
I sure in the hell wouldnt.
"Its going to be a challenge, its going to feel like forever, and there will be difficulties. But we will emerge on the other side of it stronger than we were when we entered." ~ Sudden
by Matt_Grbac on Oct 26, 2009 4:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
How much does it pay?
I remember Dawson to Taylor, Kenney to Carson, and Blackledge catching the snap in his facemask. Seen it all...
by BinSC on Oct 26, 2009 4:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No enough....
You have to be practice squad salary or even less to be considered
"Its going to be a challenge, its going to feel like forever, and there will be difficulties. But we will emerge on the other side of it stronger than we were when we entered." ~ Sudden
by Matt_Grbac on Oct 26, 2009 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The players will come,
it is about money, we will get better through the draft, money will bring the free agents.
LJ realy screwed up this time, he has had many chances, suspend him for the season, keep him out of Chiefs facilities.
by Eric Allen on Oct 26, 2009 4:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
We had money
We still didnt get any FA
"Its going to be a challenge, its going to feel like forever, and there will be difficulties. But we will emerge on the other side of it stronger than we were when we entered." ~ Sudden
by Matt_Grbac on Oct 26, 2009 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
They got started late,
had to see what they had here, Pioli started with defense, next year we get the o-line going.
LJ realy screwed up this time, he has had many chances, suspend him for the season, keep him out of Chiefs facilities.
by Eric Allen on Oct 26, 2009 4:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
good teams
are always built through the draft! Free agency is a short-term solution, usually. This is long-term, without a doubt. In this kind of a situation, we live and die by the draft. Free agency isn’t the answer, by any stretch.
by bwelch37 on Oct 26, 2009 4:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed bwelch, the free agents are the
key players you need to put you over the top.
LJ realy screwed up this time, he has had many chances, suspend him for the season, keep him out of Chiefs facilities.
by Eric Allen on Oct 26, 2009 4:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
See Washington Redskins...
I remember Dawson to Taylor, Kenney to Carson, and Blackledge catching the snap in his facemask. Seen it all...
by BinSC on Oct 26, 2009 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ok say that is true....
Where would NE be without Adalius Thomas….Randy Moss…..Wes Welker….I know they all were not FA but they didnt draft into a dynasty. They had help….you have to spend on FA you have to….
"Its going to be a challenge, its going to feel like forever, and there will be difficulties. But we will emerge on the other side of it stronger than we were when we entered." ~ Sudden
by Matt_Grbac on Oct 26, 2009 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
They haven't won any SB with those players.
The dynasty came before that.
by bansky on Oct 26, 2009 4:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
but
the Patriots were a perennial playoff team at that point. Like Eric Allen said above, “free agents are the key players you need to put you over the top.”
Their foundation was already well in place. They had their franchise QB, their o-line, their linebacking corps. They were set all over the place.
We had basically nothing.
by bwelch37 on Oct 26, 2009 4:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
They were pieces to
complete the puzzle not the border when you’re just starting to put the puzzle together!
by ttownmikey on Oct 26, 2009 5:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
There wasn't much to choose from by the time
Pioli/Haley were onboard. Better to save it for next year than spend it the way Carl did for every “name” available.
I remember Dawson to Taylor, Kenney to Carson, and Blackledge catching the snap in his facemask. Seen it all...
by BinSC on Oct 26, 2009 4:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i would
beats not having a job…and its the nfl! id be happy to get paid to play football even if a coach yelled at me. id certainly gain more yards than LJ.
by MountainManMike on Oct 27, 2009 2:40 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Vermiel wouldn't have left us in such bad shape if the drafts had been better.
IE: we would have gotten Polamalu instead of LJ.
by Chiefsfan1970 on Oct 26, 2009 4:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Peterson wanted LJ, Vermiel wanted to go defense.
LJ realy screwed up this time, he has had many chances, suspend him for the season, keep him out of Chiefs facilities.
by Eric Allen on Oct 26, 2009 4:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly. DV wanted to draft Troy P.
by Chiefsfan1970 on Oct 26, 2009 4:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am with ya, a little slow today.:)
LJ realy screwed up this time, he has had many chances, suspend him for the season, keep him out of Chiefs facilities.
by Eric Allen on Oct 26, 2009 4:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
DV did not want Troy....
Dick wanted Tyler Brayton. A guy who did nothing with his career. Unless of course you have proof of your proclamation. Mine is below from the Chiefs website…
Predictions for 2009:
LJ runs for 1800 yards
Bowe in the pro bowl
Chiefs D finishes in the top 10 in points allowed
Chiefs 10-6
by bonesjackson on Oct 26, 2009 4:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Too bad
Dick didn’t want Troy.
Predictions for 2009:
LJ runs for 1800 yards
Bowe in the pro bowl
Chiefs D finishes in the top 10 in points allowed
Chiefs 10-6
by bonesjackson on Oct 26, 2009 4:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Carl in the 90s
was a very different GM from the Carl of the 2000s.
For his last 5-10 years here he did nothing but give out bad contracts, allow good players to leave, and make some pretty terrible drafting choices. Carl cared less about winning championships than he did about filling seats which is a big part of why we’re stuck in the shithole we are now.
Granted, he didn’t do it alone but he had the power and responsibility to prevent Herm and Dick from making some pretty colossal mistakes in the draft. Instead, he sat idly by and watched the franchise tank.
Bask in the glory that is Kwame Harris. Poor Alex...
by JHWK on Oct 26, 2009 4:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
But he did fill the seats....
You have to give him credit for that….He also drafted lots of great talent. After Marty he just made some bad coaching hires……that killed him right there.
"Its going to be a challenge, its going to feel like forever, and there will be difficulties. But we will emerge on the other side of it stronger than we were when we entered." ~ Sudden
by Matt_Grbac on Oct 26, 2009 4:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He made SOME great draft decisions
but let most of them walk out the door within a few years of drafting them. The rest of his draft decisions were pretty terrible.
Bask in the glory that is Kwame Harris. Poor Alex...
by JHWK on Oct 26, 2009 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
CP got the JJ complex.
Jerry Jones wanted everyone to know that he could get championships without Jimmy Johnson and Carl wanted to do it without Mary. Didn’t work out so well.
I remember Dawson to Taylor, Kenney to Carson, and Blackledge catching the snap in his facemask. Seen it all...
by BinSC on Oct 26, 2009 4:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah Mary really soured things for him...lol j/k
Winning begins with Attitude - Haley and Pioli will be winners in KC!
I'll forever be a Chiefs fan! Only God himself could take that away from me, but when I get to my great reward, I'll rejoin two bigger fans, my Mom and Dad.
by Lanier63 on Oct 26, 2009 4:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mary....thats hilarious
Mary was a tough ass coach
"Its going to be a challenge, its going to feel like forever, and there will be difficulties. But we will emerge on the other side of it stronger than we were when we entered." ~ Sudden
by Matt_Grbac on Oct 26, 2009 4:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oops. But you have to admit. He couldn't do it without Mary.
Marty either.
I remember Dawson to Taylor, Kenney to Carson, and Blackledge catching the snap in his facemask. Seen it all...
by BinSC on Oct 26, 2009 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I respectfully disagree - I think Pioli (if not Haley) has done more harm than good thus far
Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisiton!
by upamtn on Oct 26, 2009 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have to know what you would elaboprate, elaber
please tell us what your thinking? :)
Winning begins with Attitude - Haley and Pioli will be winners in KC!
I'll forever be a Chiefs fan! Only God himself could take that away from me, but when I get to my great reward, I'll rejoin two bigger fans, my Mom and Dad.
by Lanier63 on Oct 26, 2009 4:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Last year
7 games within a TD…….we lost 7 games that was decided by a TD or less…..
With the right coaching say we won atleast 5 of those……we would have won 7 games and none of this conversation would be happening…..but now that team is totally dismantled……why.
"Its going to be a challenge, its going to feel like forever, and there will be difficulties. But we will emerge on the other side of it stronger than we were when we entered." ~ Sudden
by Matt_Grbac on Oct 26, 2009 4:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
the right 53?
Winning begins with Attitude - Haley and Pioli will be winners in KC!
I'll forever be a Chiefs fan! Only God himself could take that away from me, but when I get to my great reward, I'll rejoin two bigger fans, my Mom and Dad.
by Lanier63 on Oct 26, 2009 4:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
There is a reason we lost those games though
It wasn’t just coaching. That team also ran a glorified high school offense that teams started to figure out as the game went along. That is why we lost so many close games — teams caught on by the 4th quarter.
We had less talent last year, but were able to use the element of surprise to win a few games (2 to be exact). Haley and Pioli want to build CONSISTENT winners. To do this, you have to run a pro-style offense and build a solid defense. Haley and Pioli are trying to do this, but Rome wasn’t built in a day, and Herm and Carl tore this team to shreads since Vermeil left.
Keep in mind, our schedule was A LOT easier last year. Again, if you are comparing two different things like you are, you have to keep as many variables constant as possible to make a viable conclusion. You can’t do this with these two teams. Apples to oranges, my friend.
by Nick Britt on Oct 26, 2009 4:29 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Rec
and Rec
And Rec
We Will kick at least 4 Teams Asses in 09
And Succop will be the Key in two of them.
" Think and talk positive football off the field." Hank Stram
by Steve_Chiefs on Oct 26, 2009 4:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would love to elaborate *smile*
last year’s draft was kicka$$ good, most of those guys are on the team still – last half of last year the team was playing decent and competitive ball – granted it was a makeshift Chan Gailey thing (which shows his true value) but still, it was working and MOST games were close and fun to watch
in addition. the players were out there hustling on EVERY play – a lot of young talent, sure they’re gonna make mistakes, it’s part of learning – a kid learns to walk not by mommy or daddy always catching him/her when there’s the slightest stumble – rather a kid learns to walk when he/she is allowed to fall a time or two (in a safe area of course) – players who are allowed to fail a time or two while hustling and trying end up better players and the team ends up being better off for it
instead of that approach, we now have the “let’s bring in guys who get cut regardless of talent:” approach along with the “you are not allowed to fail or I will be in your face and then bench you” approach …
hand in hand those two produces players who can’t/won’t/aren’t allowed to succeed
that’s IMNSHO
Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisiton!
by upamtn on Oct 26, 2009 4:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hope to god
that you’re wrong. I’m not sure which side of the fence I’m on…. I want to have faith, but you make some good points. Part of me thinks that Pioli is just trying to make another New England, so he’s just cutting everyone and signing people off of practice squads, etc… But this isn’t New England. Just because it worked there doesn’t mean it will work here. These moves he’s made, some could be genius, some could be completely foolish. I pray they are more of the former.
Still, let’s give it a year. Or a few years. Rome wasn’t built in a day, after all… This is a pretty extensive rebuilding project.
by bwelch37 on Oct 26, 2009 4:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Completely agree and that is what is happening right now :)
in addition. the players were out there hustling on EVERY play – a lot of young talent, sure they’re gonna make mistakes, it’s part of learning – a kid learns to walk not by mommy or daddy always catching him/her when there’s the slightest stumble – rather a kid learns to walk when he/she is allowed to fall a time or two (in a safe area of course) – players who are allowed to fail a time or two while hustling and trying end up better players and the team ends up being better off for it
We Will kick at least 4 Teams Asses in 09
And Succop will be the Key in two of them.
" Think and talk positive football off the field." Hank Stram
by Steve_Chiefs on Oct 26, 2009 4:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah we actually had some talent last season....
We just had dumbass coaches……with the right coach we could have been pretty decent.
"Its going to be a challenge, its going to feel like forever, and there will be difficulties. But we will emerge on the other side of it stronger than we were when we entered." ~ Sudden
by Matt_Grbac on Oct 26, 2009 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
well
I don’t think even God himself could have helped our defense last year… it takes more than bad coaching to fail to such an epic degree…
by bwelch37 on Oct 26, 2009 4:26 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Maybe god couldn't help the D last year
But Jared Allen sure could have!
Predictions for 2009:
LJ runs for 1800 yards
Bowe in the pro bowl
Chiefs D finishes in the top 10 in points allowed
Chiefs 10-6
by bonesjackson on Oct 26, 2009 4:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
sadly you're right
I thought it was a good move at the time.
Watching him run train on MNF a few weeks ago was utterly depressing.
by bwelch37 on Oct 26, 2009 4:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I guess he would have to be an OLB
Cause Lord knows Pioli wanted a 3/4 Defense regadless of his talent pool
"Its going to be a challenge, its going to feel like forever, and there will be difficulties. But we will emerge on the other side of it stronger than we were when we entered." ~ Sudden
by Matt_Grbac on Oct 26, 2009 4:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think so
This is an NFL team. There are some very talented athletes on this team but there are some big holes and serious problems. I’ve seen two approaches to trying to fix a struggling team. One is to maximize the talent you have by building schemes that will work best with the talent you have. For a great example look at Gailey last year. He retooled the offense to take advantage of the ability of his players. Marv did that as well when he took over the team.
The other approach, which I think Pioli and Haley decided to take, is to install the systems that you think are best and start sorting players based on that. The best example of that system is what Jimmy Johnson did with the Cowboys.
I think Pioli and Haley have decided the best way to build a championship team is the latter. We’ll see how that works out for them. It certainly sucks right now, just like it did in JJ’s first season.
Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend. Inside of a dog it's too dark to read. - Groucho Marx
by Big Chief on Oct 26, 2009 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Exactly
Exactly what I said above. Spot on. Pioli and Haley are in this for the LONG RUN. Keeping Gailey’s high school offense — what has been coined as the Arrowspread — was not a viable long-term solution, but a stop-gap after losing Croyle. This is obvious to anyone who knows anything about the game.
by Nick Britt on Oct 26, 2009 4:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's unfair to call it a "high school offense"
because it really did work for this team. But you aren’t going to be able to run that offense and win championships.
Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend. Inside of a dog it's too dark to read. - Groucho Marx
by Big Chief on Oct 26, 2009 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Correction
It worked for 2 and a half quarters a game. By the end of the third quarter, teams caught on and shut it down.
Sure we got yards (for the first 2.5 quarters), but at the end of the day all that matters is whether you won or lost. We only won two games last year with the offense. Not very functional in my opinion.
I still think it was a glorified high school offense. The Wildcat started as a high school offense as well I believe. Offenses like this work for a few plays a game, because it is unusual and you have the element of surprise on your side. Teams have to prepare for something they aren’t used to seeing. Again, these offenses don’t work because they are some genius invention — they just take advantage of an unprepared defense. Unfortunately, defenses can adjust and figure out simple offenses rather quickly, which is what happened last year.
Sometimes you have offensive paradigm shifts — West Coast, Air Coryell, Erhardt-Perkins, etc. — that have amazing results (Super Bowl championships), but these offenses are much more complex and take years to implement and perfect. The ArrowSpread served its purpose — as a stop-gap highlighting Tyler Thigpen’s strengths after Croyle went down with injury, but as you admitted, it would never have got this team a Super Bowl ring.
I can excuse Pioli and Haley because I know they know what it takes to win a Super Bowl — Carl and Herm never showed me this. This team is headed in the right direction.
by Nick Britt on Oct 26, 2009 5:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Steve Bono....
was signed to the practice squad….LOL
Haley handled that presser like a champ.
I give him credit.
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by Peterman700 on Oct 26, 2009 4:07 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
LJ sasid something about Thursday to Babb ... maybe he's going to RETIRE
Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisiton!
by upamtn on Oct 26, 2009 4:14 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
He said he’d speak to the media on Thursday, his usual media day. I suspect he won’t be a part of the Chiefs on Thursday, so he won’t be talking.
by dablueguy on Oct 26, 2009 4:16 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
i'm not worried about what LJ will do after his suspension
he’s caking, partnuh
Hoping that the Tigers fire Leyland and steal Trey Hillman from the Royals
by BHWick on Oct 26, 2009 4:21 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
whats caking mean?
Winning begins with Attitude - Haley and Pioli will be winners in KC!
I'll forever be a Chiefs fan! Only God himself could take that away from me, but when I get to my great reward, I'll rejoin two bigger fans, my Mom and Dad.
by Lanier63 on Oct 26, 2009 4:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
LMAO
One of those fangled computer thingys……$500
One month DSL service……$40
Old guys learning slag online…..Priceless!
Predictions for 2009:
LJ runs for 1800 yards
Bowe in the pro bowl
Chiefs D finishes in the top 10 in points allowed
Chiefs 10-6
by bonesjackson on Oct 26, 2009 4:30 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
lol
Winning begins with Attitude - Haley and Pioli will be winners in KC!
I'll forever be a Chiefs fan! Only God himself could take that away from me, but when I get to my great reward, I'll rejoin two bigger fans, my Mom and Dad.
by Lanier63 on Oct 26, 2009 4:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
wait....slag?
Winning begins with Attitude - Haley and Pioli will be winners in KC!
I'll forever be a Chiefs fan! Only God himself could take that away from me, but when I get to my great reward, I'll rejoin two bigger fans, my Mom and Dad.
by Lanier63 on Oct 26, 2009 4:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You know what I meant....
Predictions for 2009:
LJ runs for 1800 yards
Bowe in the pro bowl
Chiefs D finishes in the top 10 in points allowed
Chiefs 10-6
by bonesjackson on Oct 26, 2009 4:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm with you Lanier
I hadn’t heard that one (caking). I assumed is was a typo – like slag.
Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend. Inside of a dog it's too dark to read. - Groucho Marx
by Big Chief on Oct 26, 2009 4:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Me neither or either
slagging is caking.
Us old guys don’t get slag or cake.
Just the youngsters :)
because we make it possible :)
We Will kick at least 4 Teams Asses in 09
And Succop will be the Key in two of them.
" Think and talk positive football off the field." Hank Stram
by Steve_Chiefs on Oct 26, 2009 4:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bones I do not agree with your take on LJ, but that was funny!
LJ realy screwed up this time, he has had many chances, suspend him for the season, keep him out of Chiefs facilities.
by Eric Allen on Oct 26, 2009 4:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Like I said
What he did was stupid. He is still the best RB on the offense and I don’ t blame him for being frusterated. Especially with the high hopes he had for that game but he cannot do what he did in this day and age. It wasn’t that long ago that a homosexual slur would have been a badge of honor in the NFL….
124 and counting…
It would be great to get it this week at home on front of the fans. Be able to give a little something back. Another win would be even better though… Just gotta keep working hard…Posted by Larry Johnson at 10/22/2009 10:13 PM | Add Comment
Predictions for 2009:
LJ runs for 1800 yards
Bowe in the pro bowl
Chiefs D finishes in the top 10 in points allowed
Chiefs 10-6
by bonesjackson on Oct 26, 2009 4:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The bad thing is
The home crowd would have booed him even before his “tweeting” episode because of the hate KC has for him.
Predictions for 2009:
LJ runs for 1800 yards
Bowe in the pro bowl
Chiefs D finishes in the top 10 in points allowed
Chiefs 10-6
by bonesjackson on Oct 26, 2009 4:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think people had mellowed on him some....
this is typical LJ crap, he has no business being a Chief any longer. Every since he got his contract he has not ran nearly as hard.
LJ realy screwed up this time, he has had many chances, suspend him for the season, keep him out of Chiefs facilities.
by Eric Allen on Oct 26, 2009 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
That is untrue
He was running hard in ’07 and in ’08 he had a couple of his best runs ever. This year has been rough as he is getting hit in the back field constantly. Negative running plays are always on the O line…
Predictions for 2009:
LJ runs for 1800 yards
Bowe in the pro bowl
Chiefs D finishes in the top 10 in points allowed
Chiefs 10-6
by bonesjackson on Oct 26, 2009 4:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Every bit of it was on LJ, not the fans that came out to support the Chiefs
We Will kick at least 4 Teams Asses in 09
And Succop will be the Key in two of them.
" Think and talk positive football off the field." Hank Stram
by Steve_Chiefs on Oct 26, 2009 4:47 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Every bit of what?
Predictions for 2009:
LJ runs for 1800 yards
Bowe in the pro bowl
Chiefs D finishes in the top 10 in points allowed
Chiefs 10-6
by bonesjackson on Oct 26, 2009 4:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Your comment
The home crowd would have booed him even before his "tweeting" episode because of the hate KC has for him.
We Will kick at least 4 Teams Asses in 09
And Succop will be the Key in two of them.
" Think and talk positive football off the field." Hank Stram
by Steve_Chiefs on Oct 26, 2009 4:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe
The fans hated him in ’05 too. I have heard nothing but contempt from “Chiefs fans” since the day he was drafted. I still think most of it really had to do with the love of Priest…
Predictions for 2009:
LJ runs for 1800 yards
Bowe in the pro bowl
Chiefs D finishes in the top 10 in points allowed
Chiefs 10-6
by bonesjackson on Oct 26, 2009 4:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah its funny
How Jared Allen was a fan favorite although he was arrested a total of 3 times for DUI….twice in a 5 month period…..but LJ can say stupid stuff on Twitter and they are calling for his head…..
People make mistakes….some are just stupid….Allen and LJ were stupid….why are they treated differently
"Its going to be a challenge, its going to feel like forever, and there will be difficulties. But we will emerge on the other side of it stronger than we were when we entered." ~ Sudden
by Matt_Grbac on Oct 26, 2009 4:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What about his priors since being a Chief?
You know his crimes involving women only.
LJ realy screwed up this time, he has had many chances, suspend him for the season, keep him out of Chiefs facilities.
by Eric Allen on Oct 26, 2009 4:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kinda like Priest
Oh yeah…..He just liked to sit on his porch and watch his baby mammas fight it out.
Predictions for 2009:
LJ runs for 1800 yards
Bowe in the pro bowl
Chiefs D finishes in the top 10 in points allowed
Chiefs 10-6
by bonesjackson on Oct 26, 2009 5:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oooooh good one
"Its going to be a challenge, its going to feel like forever, and there will be difficulties. But we will emerge on the other side of it stronger than we were when we entered." ~ Sudden
by Matt_Grbac on Oct 26, 2009 5:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Priest taught LJ a thing or two about women
Predictions for 2009:
LJ runs for 1800 yards
Bowe in the pro bowl
Chiefs D finishes in the top 10 in points allowed
Chiefs 10-6
by bonesjackson on Oct 26, 2009 5:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah waving a gun at a women is certainly
better than watching two women fight, at least the female fight was a one on one thing, no weapons involved.
LJ realy screwed up this time, he has had many chances, suspend him for the season, keep him out of Chiefs facilities.
by Eric Allen on Oct 26, 2009 5:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
woman
LJ realy screwed up this time, he has had many chances, suspend him for the season, keep him out of Chiefs facilities.
by Eric Allen on Oct 26, 2009 5:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Because
Most of the people trash talking LJ in this forum have drank and drove and they think that is OK. I am sure most of them have slurred a minority group or two as well.
Truth is that Larry was a threat to their hero Priest. They didn’t like LJ from the jump.
Predictions for 2009:
LJ runs for 1800 yards
Bowe in the pro bowl
Chiefs D finishes in the top 10 in points allowed
Chiefs 10-6
by bonesjackson on Oct 26, 2009 4:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
truth is
watch both of them in a public setting or interview. Jared is funny & witty & easy to like while LJ is stand-offish & superior acting & trying to give off a “street cred”. Quite obvious why they are accepted differently. Jared enjoys what he is doing while LJ doesn’t appear to at all.
by ttownmikey on Oct 26, 2009 5:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So you don't like him
because of how he deals with the KC press? Watch LJ in national media outlets…
Predictions for 2009:
LJ runs for 1800 yards
Bowe in the pro bowl
Chiefs D finishes in the top 10 in points allowed
Chiefs 10-6
by bonesjackson on Oct 26, 2009 5:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't like him because of how he is in national media outlets
Did you see him on HBO a few years ago?
Also, Jared = learned lesson
LJ = more of the same
Combined with 2 yards a carry, it’s time for him to go.
"The road to Easy Street goes through the sewer."
--John Madden
by cpa913 on Oct 26, 2009 5:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not in KC
I’ve never seen either in the KC press. I am talking about the National media. Jared is hilarious in his interviews while LJ mumbles a few words as though he’s speaking some other language. I have 2 LJ jerseys & have always been a fan (until now!) but I was trying to explain to you why Jared is treated differently than LJ! I never said that I didn’t like LJ even now, but he is becoming a cancer much like TO & not worth the problems!
by ttownmikey on Oct 26, 2009 5:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jared could rush for more than 2 yards a carry...
This is just the straw that broke the camels back
"The road to Easy Street goes through the sewer."
--John Madden
by cpa913 on Oct 26, 2009 4:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Endangering the public safety
is not as big of a deal as offending some people on the internet is
Predictions for 2009:
LJ runs for 1800 yards
Bowe in the pro bowl
Chiefs D finishes in the top 10 in points allowed
Chiefs 10-6
by bonesjackson on Oct 26, 2009 5:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jared cleaned up his act
LJ’s act is just tired. Where’s the dead horse picture?
"The road to Easy Street goes through the sewer."
--John Madden
by cpa913 on Oct 26, 2009 5:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think ‘Cakin’ means hanging out with people.
by Chief-Eli on Oct 26, 2009 4:31 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I think "Cakin" means...
hanging out with people in the Unemployment line
by Tomahawk_Chop on Oct 26, 2009 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
All time Leading Rusher?
I just hope it DOESN’T end up being Larry.
I mean, who wants a guy named “Larry” to be your franchise’s all time leader.
by Phalz212 on Oct 26, 2009 4:33 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
It is now...
Larry “Little” Johnson
by Tomahawk_Chop on Oct 26, 2009 4:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Larry Fitzgerald
"Its going to be a challenge, its going to feel like forever, and there will be difficulties. But we will emerge on the other side of it stronger than we were when we entered." ~ Sudden
by Matt_Grbac on Oct 26, 2009 4:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Chief's problems would look so bad if Denver wasn't 6-0.
On the other hand, Jimmy Johnson was 1-15 his first year and they sure turned that around and, Tennessee sure is a surprise. Isn’t Jeff Fisher one of the best coaches in the NFL. What happened to them, 0-7?
by jcox31mc on Oct 26, 2009 4:39 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Well Jimmy Johnson kinda had some talent
and head coaching experience to draw off of…..Haley has neither.
"Its going to be a challenge, its going to feel like forever, and there will be difficulties. But we will emerge on the other side of it stronger than we were when we entered." ~ Sudden
by Matt_Grbac on Oct 26, 2009 4:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Being a college HC doesn't count for much in the NFL anymore
I don’t know the stats but based on the way hiring is done now college coaches are rarely considered for NFL HC jobs unless they also spent some time as NFL assistants.
Are you really claiming that Haley wasn’t considered a prime HC candidate when Pioli hired him? And if so, what sports shows do you follow, because he was on ESPN and NFLN. You may not like him, but he was widely considered to be qualified.
Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend. Inside of a dog it's too dark to read. - Groucho Marx
by Big Chief on Oct 26, 2009 7:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought it would have been cool
if haley opened his conference stating that they have released or traded him…That to me would have been legendarily cool.
by ZachMartin2 on Oct 26, 2009 5:46 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
have someone tell Tom Cable of the Raiders
that Larry call him that expletive. That he also tubby and that he wants to meet him in Oakland. Lets see what happens then . Because Cables assistant coach trips falls and breaks his jaw. What he do to Larry if he called him that.
by Shutters on Oct 26, 2009 6:41 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
when did we start playing better last year .....
when LJ was injured/suspended … just saying!!
by OneChiefs on Oct 26, 2009 9:18 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
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