A Day Later, Another Slur From Chiefs RB Larry Johnson
by Joel Thorman on Oct 26, 2009 3:17 PM CDT
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I've yet to hear the audio but the Kent Babb of the Kansas City Star has gone into slightly more detail on Larry Johnson's exchange with reporters today. Nick Wright of 610 Sports also reported this exchange.
Somehow, it's gotten worse.
Warning: Graphic language in a quote after the jump.
Per Babb, LJ's final comment to reporters, was "Get your faggot asses out of here."
Wow.
LJ's agent did not respond to questions from the Star.
In my mind, there's no excuse for using that language at any time. But, to post something like that on your Twitter account, sleep on it, come to work the next day and again use it is ridiculous.
Kansas City Chiefs management likely wants to get rid of him. That's just my belief, though. Knowing the type of people Clark Hunt and Scott Pioli are, and what they've stood for throughout their careers, I can not imagine they will tolerate this.
Head coach Todd Haley will be asked about the situation this afternoon at his press conference, which will stream live on KCChiefs.com. I would venture to guess that this will be the most viewed live program in KCChiefs.com history, which means there is a lot of pressure on Haley at the moment.
Fans want something done about this. In about 15 minutes, the ball will be in Haley's court.
(H/T NJ Chiefs Fan for the link)
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Not just his Chiefs career,
probably his career in general.
I dunno...
I hear he might have a shot in the USFL!
As a fan I beg the Chiefs to take action
You have taken the high road and given LJ enough rope to hang himslef. Now let the floor drop out from beneath him.
by TonyG88 on Oct 26, 2009 3:22 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
3 steps
1. Open Mouth
2. Insert foot
3 crew vigorously
is it me? or isn't about time the Lamar Hunt trophy belonged to His team?
I’m a Chiefs fan Dammit and I’m damn proud of it!
by KC Fanatic on Oct 26, 2009 3:22 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Pioli to LJ - "Jetson, you're fired!"
"The road to Easy Street goes through the sewer."
--John Madden
Ive defended him so many times...
…this offseason to various people. Apparently that was a wasted effort on my part.
I still think he is our best 1RB available, but once you cross certain lines ability is no longer the #1 factor. Expect a suspension / cut today or this week.
He is far from a 1RB in terms of ability and production at this point in his career
I honestly can’t think of a single team that is RB-starved enough to start him anymore, especially not when you throw in all the baggage he brings along.
Bask in the glory that is Kwame Harris. Poor Alex...
I'm talking about our team right now
I like Kolby but he’s been injured. And Charles is an excellent RB2, but I don’t see him getting 20 carries a game and surviving.
Just saying he’s the best we have right now ability-wise, and we’re past the trade deadline, so I don’t see how we can improve this year.
I'm more excited about this
than I am week 9.
is the video
going to stream from the home page?
Isn't this the exact scenario that the NFL was worried about before the season
with twitter? I gotta think the players were warned about avoiding this situation.
Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend. Inside of a dog it's too dark to read. - Groucho Marx
Pretty crazy
Matt Cassel is to Bernard Pollard what Jamaal Charles is to Larry Johson……
Very thankful for their actions…..
"Its going to be a challenge, its going to feel like forever, and there will be difficulties. But we will emerge on the other side of it stronger than we were when we entered." ~ Sudden
by Matt_Grbac on Oct 26, 2009 3:31 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
i understand what you were tring to say
but i think it’s easier to understand if it was said Pollard is to Cassel what LJ is to Charles
???
did i miss something? pollard, cassel? what happend? link me.
Proud Supporter of Tyler Thigpen.
well
at least what my interpretation is, and it could be wrong, is that Pollard’s actions basically got Matt Cassell’s career going by injuring Tom Brady last year, and now LJ’s actions are going to (hopefully) get the career Jamaal Charles, another backup, going.
He's referring to Cassel owing his playing opportunity to Pollard for hurting Brady's knee last year.
by Chiefsfan1970 on Oct 26, 2009 3:48 PM CDT up reply actions
if I recall, Pollard was pushed into Brady's leg during the play ...
from the replays I saw last year it did NOT appear as though Pollard was trying to maim.wound Brady
Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisiton!
oh ic lol
ok make’s sense. i was thinking cassel was the reason pollard got released.
Proud Supporter of Tyler Thigpen.
Can his ass
He is supposed to be a professional. This is not professional behavior
by Sam D on Oct 26, 2009 3:37 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
I wouldn't be opposed to rotating Rhodes in so long as he's not a "feature back"
he’s definitely got more left in the tank than LJ and you know he won’t go around shooting his mouth off every time something doesn’t go his way.
Bask in the glory that is Kwame Harris. Poor Alex...
show us
can LJ now.
"I will fight you!"
"What is your weapon?"
"My bare hands!"
"That is stupid. I will use a sword and I will cut off your bare hands."
by CT Chief Fan on Oct 26, 2009 3:40 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
i'm sure he is as good as gone
i’m willing to bet that they haven’t done anything yet because they want to make sure they destroy his career properly. that way it sticks and no amount of bitching by LJ and his agent will help.
Did they actually get this on tape? Or is this a he said, she said
This one is easy for him to deny…but damn Larry lol
@ AP
Hey, you guys ought to start a petition for fans to sign expressing our feelings about LJ being benched. We can then make sure that the Hunts can hear our voice in full. I don’t want this immature money grubber that disrespects our city and fans getting the franchise rushing yards record. Judging by the above comments, my thoughts are pretty consistent with everyone else.
Give us some kind of an outlet to voice our displeasure. We’ve got two weeks to get him off the field. Let’s do it. I’m fine with Clark taking his time to build the team and essentially ignoring the fact that more should have been done in the last offseason, but I won’t ignore it if LJ is allowed to walk away again.
About the Chiefs: I'd rather be a realist than a pessimist
by Red N Gold Beast on Oct 26, 2009 3:43 PM CDT reply actions 2 recs
Why would that be naive?
For 3 straight years this crap has gone on. I was one of the suckers that LJ pulled into believing that he was on board with the team. I’ve supported our KC Chiefs, but if they don’t deal with this child that can’t treat his career like what it is – a privilage – then they need to suspend his ass and bench him afterwards. He doesn’t deserve that record. He doesn’t deserve to get paid. If the Chiefs don’t deal with this with a heavy hand, I’l be really, really tempted to check out on this team until they do. No more attending games, no more merchandise. No more watching the games on TV either. The guy’s a cancer and is, IMO, part of what’s wrong with the tam right now.
About the Chiefs: I'd rather be a realist than a pessimist
by Red N Gold Beast on Oct 26, 2009 4:06 PM CDT up reply actions
But are you listening to what your saying?
Your trying to pitch a petition that we can all gather around in homeroom class and sign our little hearts away into getting the OWNER to read and get all inspired about…so that maybe LJ has to stand on the sidelines. 1) This isn’t high school. 2) And i know this is going to hurt, but the hunts dont give a shit what you or I think.
This business is a little more complicated than signing a petition about some outragous twitter comments. A petition? Thats a first.
This whole story has gotten out of control.
Pioli walked around the parking lot apologizing for losing to the Cowboys
It actually might affect their thinking, and then we wouldn’t have to watch LJ fall down at the line of scrimmage every play. Then again, let’s petition that we want a RB that can gain more than 2 yards per carry!
"The road to Easy Street goes through the sewer."
--John Madden
Oh the pain
No shit the Hunt’s don’t care what I think. But they might care what 100,000 people think. That’s more than enough to fill a stadium, catch my drift? The majority of us can take supporting a bad team, but we shouldn’t be expected to support a bad team that allows players to badmouth fans and use derogatory slurs that grab national attention and embarass our team. And when that player is on the verge of breaking a prestigious franchise record, it’s definitely time for the organization to draw the line and make a stance.
You want to talk about business? OK, lets talk about how LJ is bad for business with his 2.7 YPC. Or his 0 rushing TDs. Or how all this attention is the last thing a struggling team needs right now. LJ IS BAD FOR THE CHIEFS. Wins = money and LJ is not helping this team win anything. Suspend him, bench him, cut him. I don’t care as long as the organization shows us fans that regardless of how bad this team is right now, we will stil have a shred of dignity when it comes to player conduct. In reality that’s all that this team has to hang it’s hat on right now. How are other teams going to look at this? It’s bad enough we’re one game removed from being the Detroit Lions. We don’t need a homophobic underachiever attacking the fans and disrespecting the privilage that he’s been given. You should really be more pissed about this than you are.
About the Chiefs: I'd rather be a realist than a pessimist
by Red N Gold Beast on Oct 26, 2009 8:12 PM CDT up reply actions
It's not AP, so it's not official.
Don't mind at all
Thanks
About the Chiefs: I'd rather be a realist than a pessimist
by Red N Gold Beast on Oct 26, 2009 8:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Wow I almost feel bad for Haley right now during the press conference
He shouldn’t have to explain himself as to if he can coach or not based on if he played. The dude is 7 games into his head coaching career. He might be in over his head right now but I expect that to change. Let Haley coach this year.
"The spirit, the will to win, and the will to excel are the things that endure. These qualities are so much more important than the events that occur." - Vince Lombardi
by Shawn on Oct 26, 2009 3:43 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
just going to say the same thing
i feel like they are pressuring him to kind of give in and express his feelings about larrys comments. he says he doesnt want to talk about them or comment on it, but the things he’s saying right now is a clear box and you can see inside his words that he is saddened by a player he was behind calling him out like that. he knows hes going off subject to talk about it but i feel like he feels this is the best time to tell the media and the fans that hes all in with us. he doesnt care about larry he just wants to do everything in his power to make this team better week in and week out.
Doesn't anyone else see this as a ploy to get himself released?
I’m sure this is calculated. He’s sick of it, doesn’t want to deal with it, he wants out. Act like an ass, get waived, get signed by a better team. After all the B.S., I’m so ready for this to be over, but in a way I don’t want to give him what he wants. I’d almost rather suspend him for months.
rather a suspension as well
4 weeks of no pay is better than him getting something with the next team
Pioli put him in a tough situation
What to do with LJ is up to Pioli, not Haley, and Haley is the one up there on the podium. Pioli should have told Haley to say something to the effect of: Mr. Pioli will hold a conference within the next x days to address Larry Johnson’s role on this team moving forward.
by 1kmilesfromkc on Oct 26, 2009 3:44 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
I don't think that Pioli make decisions on his own
From what has been said by Haley, he and Pioli discuss all the personnel issues, as you’d expect of a good GM and HC pair. I think they both agreed to go with LJ. And frankly I think they believed LJ earned the opportunity by his work in camp and in the OTAs.
Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend. Inside of a dog it's too dark to read. - Groucho Marx
when in doubt, fire LJ.
You know I thought LJ might be the exception with getting his act together this year. I knew this season wasn’t going to be pretty. I still am and will be a chiefs fan all teams have struggles and last time i checked foundation building wasn’t an easy task. That being said LJ just went on my shit list.
DO NOT CUT LJ....
Suspend him (without pay) for conduct detrimental to the team for the rest of the year, and then cut his bitch ass….
by Tomahawk_Chop on Oct 26, 2009 3:46 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
I would love the fact that he wasnt able to break Priests record
Winning begins with Attitude - Haley and Pioli will be winners in KC!
I'll forever be a Chiefs fan! Only God himself could take that away from me, but when I get to my great reward, I'll rejoin two bigger fans, my Mom and Dad.
by Lanier63 on Oct 26, 2009 3:48 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Love your sig Lanier
These days will pass onto better things :)
We Will kick at least 4 Teams Asses in 09
And Succop will be the Key in two of them.
" Think and talk positive football off the field." Hank Stram
by Steve_Chiefs on Oct 26, 2009 3:50 PM CDT up reply actions
yup so agree w/ u on that
Proud Supporter of Tyler Thigpen.
Pioli
What loyalty does Scott Pioli have to Priest Holmes? Individual records matter little to coaches, but a lot to fans and players — for whatever reason. I think keeping a record in Priest Holmes name isn’t going to factor in to Scott Pioli’s decision to discipline/not discipline LJ whatsoever.
Doesn't it seem funny that Waters holds are on big LJ runs?
We Will kick at least 4 Teams Asses in 09
And Succop will be the Key in two of them.
" Think and talk positive football off the field." Hank Stram
by Steve_Chiefs on Oct 26, 2009 3:53 PM CDT up reply actions
Maybe Waters doesn't want LJ to get the record either
We Will kick at least 4 Teams Asses in 09
And Succop will be the Key in two of them.
" Think and talk positive football off the field." Hank Stram
by Steve_Chiefs on Oct 26, 2009 3:55 PM CDT up reply actions
It will take a few days for anything to happen.
They will be sure to go through the league office on this one. It is an NFL issue as well as a team issue now that he has used the slurs he has. This will be a career killer most likely and that is tough to do in the NFL. Beat women – couple of games off; slur a minority group afterwards – done.
I remember Dawson to Taylor, Kenney to Carson, and Blackledge catching the snap in his facemask. Seen it all...
Maybe the Chiefs can recoup some of the owed money to LJ after violating terms of his contract.
This is exactly the type of thing that could get the Chiefs off the hook for the rest of LJs contract.
by Chiefsfan1970 on Oct 26, 2009 3:53 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
That would be sweet.
I remember Dawson to Taylor, Kenney to Carson, and Blackledge catching the snap in his facemask. Seen it all...
Exactly
His comments definitely warrant disciplinary action by the league. Goodell is concerned about player image. Thugs like Pacman Jones and Michael Vick have felt Goodell’s wrath. It is LJs turn again.
is this a precursor to “LJ is suspended, Charles is starting”?
by 1kmilesfromkc on Oct 26, 2009 3:52 PM CDT up reply actions
...and continue to get playing time...
I remember Dawson to Taylor, Kenney to Carson, and Blackledge catching the snap in his facemask. Seen it all...
What about savage???
He played well yesterday in limited action.
by Chiefsfan1970 on Oct 26, 2009 3:54 PM CDT up reply actions
I think Kolby Smith will bump him for now.
I remember Dawson to Taylor, Kenney to Carson, and Blackledge catching the snap in his facemask. Seen it all...
Doesn't really matter to me...
as long as the O starts playing better
by Chiefsfan1970 on Oct 26, 2009 3:55 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
i like charles
he’s my guy on madden :D. he’s fast and we need fast, also gots some movies. just needs to hold that ball.
Proud Supporter of Tyler Thigpen.
anyone familiar with contract info
how much would we owe LJ if he is suspended the rest of this season and released?
I think it depends on the "suspension", if it comes to that.
I believe if it is based on conduct, he is suspended without pay for those games. Not sure about what we would owe if he was then cut, there may be language that says we can void the contract for conduct issues.
I remember Dawson to Taylor, Kenney to Carson, and Blackledge catching the snap in his facemask. Seen it all...
If they won the last grievance, isn't it possible they would win this one too???
by Chiefsfan1970 on Oct 26, 2009 4:01 PM CDT up reply actions
I would certainly think so, but when you deal with
unions it can become very bizarre on what the employer can/cannot do.
I remember Dawson to Taylor, Kenney to Carson, and Blackledge catching the snap in his facemask. Seen it all...
Like this guy or gal
We Will kick at least 4 Teams Asses in 09
And Succop will be the Key in two of them.
" Think and talk positive football off the field." Hank Stram
by Steve_Chiefs on Oct 26, 2009 4:07 PM CDT up reply actions
Is that
the dude from the Brian Urlacher Old Spice commercial?
by dragon6172 on Oct 26, 2009 4:08 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
So...
My wife had on this Kardashian in Miami show on the TV, and LJ is the guest of this radio host. And the host introduces him to one of the gals as the nicest most honerable man towards women he knew. You know how much it sucks to send a mouthful of Mountain Dew threw your nose!!
I saw that one!!!
And I laughed too….what was even better was when asked if she’d date him, she said NO…lol It was Khloe Kardashian’s show. Of course then she went off to marry Lamar Odom….
by HeatherChiefsLvr on Oct 26, 2009 5:00 PM CDT up reply actions
My seven year old daughter would like to comment, go easy fellas.
L.J should watch what he says about the fans because if its me if he wants a good career he better stop saying things about the fans.
We have to run the gauntlet over the next few weeks, we will be better for it. Pioli is not done with the roster, he will improve it. LJ is getting ready to start whining again.
by Eric Allen on Oct 26, 2009 4:07 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Smart kid. Good for you.
About the Chiefs: I'd rather be a realist than a pessimist
by Red N Gold Beast on Oct 26, 2009 4:09 PM CDT up reply actions
Thank you!
We have to run the gauntlet over the next few weeks, we will be better for it. Pioli is not done with the roster, he will improve it. LJ is getting ready to start whining again.
YW
It’s good to see parents teaching their kids the virtues of respect and dignity.
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by Red N Gold Beast on Oct 26, 2009 4:11 PM CDT up reply actions
She is a good kid, loves Tony G!
LJ realy screwed up this time, he has had many chances, suspend him for the season, keep him out of Chiefs facilities.
Cut him.
Cut him. Cut him. Cut him.
I don’t care if this is a ploy to get cut. He is a disgrace to the fans and to the Chiefs organizations. Even if he’s just suspended, it will still say “Kansas City Chiefs” next to his name. With everything he has done prior and then adding this in, the fans and the legacy of this team deserves better than to have him be associated with it in any way any longer.
by KCMizzou on Oct 26, 2009 4:07 PM CDT reply actions 2 recs
Agree Rec
We Will kick at least 4 Teams Asses in 09
And Succop will be the Key in two of them.
" Think and talk positive football off the field." Hank Stram
by Steve_Chiefs on Oct 26, 2009 4:08 PM CDT up reply actions
No, I would rather see them go through the NFL office,
suspend him without pay for the remainder of the season, and then cut him the day after game 16 with a voided contract. You HAVE to hit a guy like this in the wallet. He thinks it is funny that he does all this and get rich as well.
I remember Dawson to Taylor, Kenney to Carson, and Blackledge catching the snap in his facemask. Seen it all...
I hate the media!
How would you like to be asked a lot of questions after you lose game after game. Question here, question there, but that is the only way we can get our news. 95% of the media I hate is in the entertainment business.
Larry will eat your baby
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by Patrick Allen on Oct 26, 2009 4:13 PM CDT up reply actions
Wow Pat lol
What kind of shit do you get up to?
Before you judge a man, walk a mile in his shoes; after that, who cares?! He's a mile away and you've got his shoes!
I thought this was reported as just what he said yestrday...
Not a new occurrence…
But since I’m sure you checked it out…WOW…I’d cut him
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I cut him.
In a the fantasy leagues I have.
by KCMizzou on Oct 26, 2009 4:13 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Id like to cut or suspend him
but i bet nothing happens
A man who says he can, and a man who says he can't are both right. Which one are you?
which is too bad
considering Haley could really make a big impression by doing something about this
A man who says he can, and a man who says he can't are both right. Which one are you?
Anybody who thinks there isn’t gonna be any repercussions for this is out of their minds. If there is ANYTHING that Haley is good for it is getting rid of people. I don’t think they’ll cut him because he still gets paid if they do that so i’m pretty sure they’ll suspend him for 4 games for conduct detrimental to the team this way he doesn’t get paid and he’s bound to spout off again.
I thought i read somewhere else that doesn’t the team have some sort of clause in his contract about being suspended for conduct like this?
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