I wanted to thank all the KC fans for my 2010 Seat Upgrade

by RedZoneMan on Oct 26, 2009 12:51 PM CDT Comment 21 comments

Being what I thought an unlucky break in life, relocating to Kansas from Chicago in 1990, I found solace in adopting the Chiefs/Royals as a fan. I wasn't cheating on my 30 years as a Bears/Cubs fan, as my newly adopted local teams were in the AFC/AL.

I was able to obtain Chiefs season tickets beginning in 1994, and after the two 13-3 years in the late 90's, I was amazed at the fan support when the Chiefs faltered to .500 or below records '98 through '02. Arrowhead was a mecca for true loyalty. A place where cynicism didn't exist. Only 100+ decibel fan support, week after week! Seat upgrades were difficult to come by, but I slowly inched my way toward the 50 in the upper level section. My friends in Chicago complained that Bears fans did nothing but complain after the Bears won the Superbowl in '85. Chicagoan's were spoiled with one successful year, and quickly forgot what the meaning of the true fan experience was. I told my Chicago friends since childhood, there was still a place in the Midwest where the NFL experience was magical, where the fans were "true", regardless of the outcome.

Fastforward to 2009. I'm now sitting in the Field level seats almost at the goal line. It's still a tough upgrade compared to other stadiums. And I know, because I broker event tickets for my retirement. I was able to get 4 Dolphins lowers on the 10 yard line, 1st year after they went 1-15. I can pick up STL PSl's for pennies on the dollar. Last year, I bought 4 seasons in Zona, 50 yard line uppers, easy to get.

But from the KC fanbase comments in 2009, I can tell, KC is going the way of Miami, STL, Zona, Clev, SF, Cincy, etc., etc., etc. I'm counting on you guys to help me get to the 10, maybe even the 20 next year! And when the Chiefs turn things around and you jump back on the bandwagon, enjoy those nose bleeders, while I'm sitting on the 20, or better!

It's ironic, that when a team is in a winning mode, the fan base simply comes together as one, nothing more needs to be said. But, oh, when a few years of dismal losing records hit the stats, every fan becomes an instant NFL analyst, coach, GM. LMAO You guys really think you know more about football than a Haley or Pioli? Do you really think these guys aren't giving it 150%? Cassel has two interceptions yesterday that weren't his fault, and the Croyle talk starts again! If Thigpen were still here, we'd be getting Thiggy calls from the boobirds.

Cassel gives every ounce of effort he is capable of, every down. A lot of other QB's would throw the ball away to preserve their bodies, behind a weak offensive line. Not Cassel, he gives it 150% also, trying to make something happen. And until yesterday, his attempts/Oscy ratio was phenomenal considering the line that was in front of him, and an LJ that only gives a damn, so his trade value might be worth something next year.

We've got a very young team, sprinkled with a few twilight year vets. We have a positive future. Pride will return to Arrowhead after the new management turns things back around.

And when all of you instant analysts, GM's, Coaches turn back into fans, and want to go to the games every Sunday. I'll be right there, to sell you the seats you can't buy on your own, at 3x's face value. Thanks for the future business, my retirement depends on you!

This is a FanPost and does not necessarily reflect the views of Arrowhead Pride's writers or editors. It does reflect the views of this particular fan though, which is as important as the views of Arrowhead Pride writers or editors.

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Well said

Rec’d. My thoughts exactly.

With that being said, who is in for an LJ jersey burning? Bring out the pitchforks, its about to go down.

by Nick Britt on Oct 26, 2009 12:55 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Im in

I hope he doesn’t play another snap

It is a new Era at Arrowhead. I do not yet know if it is one of greatness or one of ineptitude. I am excited to see which way it goes, and will support my team until the end, bitter or sweet!

by KC4Life on Oct 26, 2009 1:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yep

My LJ jersey is officially garbage now

by Fourstrike89 on Oct 26, 2009 3:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Go back to Chicago

we have enough wanna-be scalpers already

I'd rather die on my feet than be living on my knees

by ArrowDread on Oct 26, 2009 12:59 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs

And I decided that I needed to increase my return on investment

So, I finished my basement instead of buying season tickets for a number of years which garnered me about 30-40K additional for my home being sold.

I also bought a 60" HDTV and a complete surround sound system that I can use antyime 24/7.

What is your ROI on Chiefs season tickets? Aha, yes 3 hours of watching a team that effectively held the city at ransom to get a stadium deal and then is $20mil. under the cap.

As far as season tickets I’ll invest when Clark and Co.’s stock goes up and they actually make an investment int he fan base.

And if you’re making 6 figures in sales in this economy in the midwest re-selling tickets…well good for you. But I can “buy” a ticket for a beer at the stadium :)

Bill Parcell’s: "You are what your record says you are."

"My job is not to collect talent, but to build a team. Individuals make the Pro Bowl. Teams win championships. That is our goal."—Chiefs GM Scott Pioli.

by THE_TRUTH on Oct 26, 2009 1:10 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs

Chiefs ROI not really bad

When you consider I bought 100+ extra Cowboys tix, and an all you can feast on Mizzou/KU smorgasbord. I mainly broker East/West coast, as the MidWest just too much mid-market status to really make a solid return on a regular basis. But, the average fan isn’t going to/know’s how to do that, so they bail after a few losing years.

My point was simply the “bandwagon” fan status the Chiefs fan base has become. Couple that with a KC mayor that is so ignorant that he almost broke the stadium lease, allowing the Chiefs/Royals to take their teams elsewhere. Don’t think there aren’t other markets that would gladly make the Chiefs right at home.

Chiefs owners are in business to turn a profit. Sure they’d love to have a winning team, as that makes profit margins even higher. But ticket sales only represent about 12% of their gross income. It’s the fans that cheat themselves by not supporting the team. Owners will just rake in their Rev Share until things turn around.

by RedZoneMan on Oct 26, 2009 1:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Couple that with a KC mayor that is so ignorant that he almost broke the stadium lease, allowing the Chiefs/Royals to take their teams elsewhere.

Actually that’s still a possibility. I believe that the Mayor (you can look up the post) decided to renig on the $150K/yr. for improvements required by the city to pay every year. De facto the city has/will in that regard break the 20 year contract.

Bill Parcell’s: "You are what your record says you are."

"My job is not to collect talent, but to build a team. Individuals make the Pro Bowl. Teams win championships. That is our goal."—Chiefs GM Scott Pioli.

by THE_TRUTH on Oct 26, 2009 1:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I don't get involved in local politics much

But, I can’t believe Funkhauser is that ignorant, that he doesn’t have some analysts available to give him some rough figures on how much additional revenue is brought into the city by out of town people coming to Chiefs/Royals games.

by RedZoneMan on Oct 26, 2009 1:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I mainly broker East/West coast, as the MidWest just too much mid-market status to really make a solid return on a regular basis.

Now THAT I can believe. And you won’t get anything better. MOST fans actually had to save their pennies for the entire year to be able to scrimp enough money to pay for season tickets.

After 20 years of Carl most had enough and to be honest, no one can blame them. Couple that with the state of the economy and you have what you see at Arrowhead.

Bill Parcell’s: "You are what your record says you are."

"My job is not to collect talent, but to build a team. Individuals make the Pro Bowl. Teams win championships. That is our goal."—Chiefs GM Scott Pioli.

by THE_TRUTH on Oct 26, 2009 1:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

TRUTH speaks the truth

One beer for one ticket is the current market price

I'd rather die on my feet than be living on my knees

by ArrowDread on Oct 26, 2009 1:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

we're supposed to complain and analyze

that’s the entire point of being a sports fan. they play the game to give us entertainment and when they lose that entertainment comes in the form of complaining and analyzing.

so it’s not really ironic… more of exactly the point.

by airfly on Oct 26, 2009 1:13 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

And the Just One Solution - Chiefs fans post

is just merely complaining or analyzing? LMAO
It’s a call for an outright fan revolt. What idiots abound that try to call themselves fans.

Sure, it’s positive to vent frustration, and talk about the plays that make or break a game, but the overall fan attitude is nothing like it. It’s extreme media hype BS. If I want that, I’ll just tune in Jack’s Smack, at least he’s paid to do it.

by RedZoneMan on Oct 26, 2009 1:24 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Agree with the post

It does get a bit annoying to see people bitching on the boards about not picking up a certain free agent or not doing the moves exactly the way they wanted it to be done. NFL players are people too. You cant just go out and pick up all the big name players like in Madden. They have families to take care of.

Also what grinds my gears is these backseat GM’s who think they know every nook and cranny of the football world and what goes on behind them. REALITY CHECK TIME!!!!! You dont have much of a clue what goes on behind the NFL’s closed doors, and that goes double for the chiefs brass, who treat their information like they are plans for nuclear weapons. Some people who treat Whitlocks comments as 100% true need to stop and think for a sec. That also goes for people who completely discredit him.

What my point is is that people have to stop criticizing EVERY SINGLE MOVE the Chiefs make just because it doesn’t fit in with their “plan” for the team, or you are having a knee jerk reaction to losing. Sure, some moves may seem dumb, and even batshit crazy (WTF was Pioli thinking about Pollard anyway), but remember that they are professionals in their field of work and we are just fans. Maybe if we just remember these few things, the board could become an enjoyable place on gameday, with jokes flying haphazardly around and no one really giving a fuck.

Before you judge a man, walk a mile in his shoes; after that, who cares?! He's a mile away and you've got his shoes!

by SuperTurtle on Oct 26, 2009 2:40 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Not trying to say anyone is a bad fan

I myself have done most of the things listed above on multiple occasions. But maybe if we all tried to make a conscious effort to not let the game get to us too much, we could have more enjoyable threads. Thats what i was trying to say in my post

Before you judge a man, walk a mile in his shoes; after that, who cares?! He's a mile away and you've got his shoes!

by SuperTurtle on Oct 26, 2009 2:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Thank you so much...

Perfectly saying why I am too grumpy or incompetent to say. People can do whatever they want and boycott Arrowhead…I did it LAST year. But the difference was that it was a reasonable reaction at the time. Herm had digresed each year and I wouldn’t go back while he was there….In this case, everything that has happened should have been expected by a reasonable person…The first year coach needs some time. The young players will eff up…

No benefit in any way will come from your boycotts

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by woodman212 on Oct 26, 2009 2:49 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

All I know is that.....

I put up $200 per ticket and flew to KC from Cali JUST to see MY beloved Chiefs play for the first time ever at Arrowhead. Normally I catch them in SD when they’re in town. I also spend an additional $600 for the 4 days I was in town. I got lucky with free flight & hotel rooms, but the rest came out my single mom, single income budget and set me back about a month behind my bills.

But you know what…it was worth every last penny to me because I got to see MY CHIEFS play live. Even though they lost & the tailgating fans were not nice to me & my fellow travelers, I still loved every minute of the experience. If I get the opportunity to do it again…I will do it again in a heart beat!

I can’t speak for everyone, but I’ve been a TRUE Chiefs fan for 18yrs and I wear my Chiefs gear around Southern Cali with PRIDE even with our piss poor records.

I’ll see some of you in a few weeks when KC comes to SD and I go broke again to make sure I’m in the stadium yelling as loudly as I can for MY Chiefs team.

Forever, and a day…..I LOVE KANSAS CITY CHIEFS!!!

by HeatherChiefsLvr on Oct 26, 2009 3:49 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Tailgaters weren't nice to you?

What happened? That’s just not right for locals to not show hospitality to out of town Chiefs fans that travel that far to Arrowhead. I’ve never, ever, witnessed something like that. Details?

by RedZoneMan on Oct 26, 2009 4:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

well...

there werew 3 of us…we walked up & down the rows in lot C and tried talking to people & they just weren’t having it at all. They’d just give us the brush off. So eventually my one friend got pissed & took her beer back to the hotel & just met us inside later.

My sister & I finally found a group of older fans that were sitting under their eazy up with a heater & were nice enough to invite us to warm up.

Just not a good experience at all, especially after everyone on here told us how awesome everyone would be. I was sad

by HeatherChiefsLvr on Oct 26, 2009 4:19 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

sorry, I meant this to be a reply to redzoneman's inquires about tailgating...

whoops

by HeatherChiefsLvr on Oct 26, 2009 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Actually...

I have felt similarly…I am not a good tailgater by any means…I usually show up at around 945 and just roam til the stadium opens and just go in by the tunnel…

I have had similar experiences in Lot C, walking through there….The rigs have been impressive but the hospitality has not been…

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by woodman212 on Oct 26, 2009 6:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs