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Chiefs Fans, Meet your top 2010 Offensive Tackle Prospects


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It's not that I didn't know that the Chiefs were bad. Or that the offensive line was going to have to be reworked. But something about the Chargers game drove the point home in a new way.

The KC line is horrid. There is no other way to describe it that can be written on a family site. Some of the blame can be laid at the feet of Cassel. But more often than blame there were defensive players at his feet. Here's the breakdown by game of sacks and QB hits that the O-line have given up in each of KC's first 7 games.

Totals thru week 7: 26 Sacks, 46 QB hits (stat corrected from 31 to 26)

Total KC Passing Attempts in 2009: 200 Attempts

Percent of times KC QB has been hit per passing attempt: 23% 36%

That may be the most ridiculous stat I have ever seen. 23% of the time somebody lays hand on the KC QB. Have you ever heard of a team who got their QB smashed one out of every 4 almost 4 out of every 10 passing attempts?

Another factor is QB hurries. Unfortunatly there is no reliable way to track this stat. I can't prove it, but my eyes tell me each Sunday that if you factored in QB hurries you would see that Cassel is harassed on 50% to 60% of all passing plays. Well be lucky if Cassel doesn't suffer Post Traumatic Stress Syndrome before the season is over.

You can also add in the fact that Matt Cassel is the second leading rusher for KC with 27 attempts and 126 yards. Last time I checked Cassel was not Michael Vick. A few of these are QB sneaks for a yard or two. The rest are Matt running for his life.

The debate on whether to draft another OT is already heating up on this site. Does KC take another tackle and move Branden Albert back to Guard? Does KC try to bookend the line with two studs?

Personally I think the interior line is the most glaring issue and I don't care one way or another. Just fix it. If moving Albert to Guard changes the dynamic of the line in a positive way, go for it. If you can address another need in the first round and find your line help later, do it. The best argument I have seen for not drafting a tackle has been put out by ChiefDJ.

Here's the meat of his argument as I see it from his post Chiefs LT Albert Not Doing As Bad As Some Think:

You can find Guards all over the 3rd and later rounds of the draft that will play well at Guard and Center. Will Shields was a 3rd round pick. Brian Waters was undrafted.

You do not need 1st round picks playing Guard

OT's go fast though. If Pioli and Co. are going to target a tackle that can start day one in 2010 they will need to spend a premium draft pick to get him.

After the break, meet the top 5 Offensive Tackle prospects for next years draft. And watch for another fan post covering Offensive Guard prospects, Center prospects and Free Agent O-line prospects for 2010.

 

 

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NOTE: The draft position of each of the following players was based on research from a number of sites and blindly thrown darts at a draft board.

 

Projected #1 OT Prospect: Russell Okung, OT Oklahoma State

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Height: 6-6

Weight: 305 lbs

Age: 22

Class: Senior

Projected Draft Position : Top 10 pick, most likely top 5

Player overview from CBS Sports:

Although Okung does not have the elite foot speed shown by left tackles picked in the top five overall in the recent drafts, the two-plus-year starter and first-team All-Big 12 pick in 2008 has the size and athleticism to be a force on the left side of the line as a pass protector and positional run blocker.

Okung has an undeserved tag as a finesse player, but opposing defensive ends find themselves on the ground more often than they'd like when up against him (71 knockdown blocks in 2008). With some technique work, the Texas native should be a long-time NFL starter - and a potential Pro Bowler - on the blind side.

 

Projected #2 OT Prospect: Trent Williams, OT Oklahoma

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Height: 6-5

Weight: 318 lbs

Class: Senior

Projected Draft Position : Top 10 pick, could go as high as top 5 depending on team needs

Player overview from NFL.com:

Williams made the move to left tackle this year and has shown some promise while manning the position. He excels as a run blocker and shows solid skills in pass protection. While his struggles with speed and quickness off the edge lead some to question his ability to play left tackle in the NFL, Williams remains one of the top tackle prospects in the draft.

 

Projected #3 OT Prospect: Charles Brown, OT USC

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Height: 6-6

Weight: 285 lbs

Class: Senior

Projected Draft Position: Top 25 pick

Player overview from Gil Brandt at NFL.com:

Brown is a fifth-year player, who came to USC as a tight end. He moved to tackle in 2006 and started at left tackle in 2008. He is a very good athlete with good feet and is well coached at USC by offensive line coach Pat Ruel. Brown needs to add weight and strength, but he can play left tackle in the NFL and has upside

 

Projected #4 OT Prospect: Selvish Capers, OT West Virginia

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Height: 6-5

Weight: 298 lbs

Class: Senior

Projected Draft Position: Late round 1, early round 2

Player overview from Draft Nasty:

Capers was converted from tight end to offensive tackle before the 2007...

One of the most athletic offensive linemen in the country. Unselfish player, who agreed to moved to offensive tackle without any hesitation. Nice frame, lean body with lots of growth potential. Long wingspan deters defenders who like to "Bull Rush." Has good peripheral vision which allows him to locate blocks not normally in his path on running plays. Capers is the primary pulling lineman on counter and trap plays in the team's spread offense. Understands the zone-blocking scheme. Good footwork, and steps with the proper technique to achieve correct blocking assignments, chipping defenders, and often reaching the next level of would-be tacklers. He would be a nice fit for zone scheme offense employed by the several NFL teams, such as the Denver Broncos. His best asset is his pass-blocking ability. Covers a lot of ground with his kick step in pass protection. Played right tackle last season to protect left-handed QB Pat White (now with NFL's Miami Dolphins).

 

Projected #5 OT Prospect: Ciron Black, OT LSU

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Height: 6-5

Weight: 322 lbs

Class: Senior

Projected Draft Position: Early to mid 2nd round

Player overview from NFL Draft Dog:

At 6’ 5" 330 pounds Black is a tremendous run blocker who should immediately be an asset to an NFL team in this area. He has a hard first punch, likes to make first contact and can control once locked on. His arms are a good length and he’s thick with powerful legs. Black generally gets a good push and combo blocks very well. In pass protection, Black has a good, deep kick slide, mirroring the defender and walling them off. He could get better against speedier rushers but pits strength vs strength and can win that battle. He has greatly improved his footwork and hands, becoming very technically sound and uses technique to mask some quickness disadvantages. He’s pretty smart, works hard and should have no problem with picking up a playbook.

This is a FanPost and does not necessarily reflect the views of Arrowhead Pride's writers or editors. It does reflect the views of this particular fan though, which is as important as the views of Arrowhead Pride writers or editors.

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The thing is

None of these prospects is an elite talent like Joe Thomas was. In fact none of them are even up to Jake Longs level in my opinion.

And as bad as we need offensive line help, we also need help in other areas. How about using that first round pick on an elite pass rusher? Can anyone say we don’t need that? Its highly unlikely you are going to find one of those in the later rounds. Jared Allen in the 4th was an absolute fluke.

You have multiple second round picks in which you would have a shot at a very good Right Tackle (if O’Callaghan doesn’t pay off). Then you can look for Guards or Centers in the 3rd, 4th and 5th rounds.

I think drafting a Left Tackle in the 1st round would be completely over reactionary, especially when the guy you draft in the top 5 this year is probably going to be an equal or lesser talent than what we already have in Brandon Albert.

It is senseless to put a talent like Albert at Guard. It is a complete waste. Guard is not a difficult position techniquewise compared to Left Tackle.

by ChiefDJ on Oct 26, 2009 6:11 PM CDT reply actions  

Depends on the grade you assign the tackle

If your scouts feel that the prospect is going to be an upgrade over Albert and Branden can solidify the interior line, then I you have to look long and hard at it.

But on the whole I agree with you. I think a WR, pass rush specialist or OLB is what should be targeted in the first round and you address the line later in the draft.

The Chiefs are on their way to an 11-5 season...I think....
Okay, so it'll be 10-6, I can live with that...

by mushin on Oct 26, 2009 6:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thats what I'm saying

From what I’ve seen, none of these guys would be a SIGNIFICANT upgrade over Albert. You don’t move guys just to move them.

Albert is even doing much better than Eugene Monroe, who so many people thought “beat out” Albert for the Tackle spot at Virginia.

People just have to get this “Yeah but he could be a Pro Bowl Guard!” crap out of their head just because he played Guard in college.

He IS a Left Tackle and he is going to be a very good one. We need to get good players in there around him.

by ChiefDJ on Oct 26, 2009 6:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

I've said that before...

don’t move Albert unless you have a SIGNIFICANT upgrade at LT.
Same with O’Callaghan… I think he’s played well enough that you don’t have to panic at RT.

C= panic
RG= panic

* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season

by stagdsp on Oct 26, 2009 6:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

LG=panic

Waters has looked like garbage. His run blocking was always been his strong suit. He’s getting blown off the line and is a liability in pass blocking. He’s not as bad as Goff and Nuswinger, but that’s like saying you have a light case of herpes.

The Chiefs are on their way to an 11-5 season...I think....
Okay, so it'll be 10-6, I can live with that...

by mushin on Oct 26, 2009 6:23 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

haha, nice

I do still think the Chiefs have some talent at G for next year on the roster
Alleman, Ndukwe, Wade Smith, Colin Brown, Niswanger?

From that group, you should be able to find ONE starter at RG…
Then, draft a LG to replace Waters?

* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season

by stagdsp on Oct 26, 2009 6:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

I still see all those guys, with the exception of Smith, as depth

They can hold up for a bit, but get crushed when teams prepare for them thorugh out the week. I see a minimum of 3 new O-lineman next year.

Of course I saw that last year and we found 3 of the worst possible solutions to the problem there were. At least as a unit.

The Chiefs are on their way to an 11-5 season...I think....
Okay, so it'll be 10-6, I can live with that...

by mushin on Oct 26, 2009 6:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Pioli has shown that he doesn't follow convention though

Who honestly saw Jackson at 3 last year?

Never rule out any move by the mad Don

The Chiefs are on their way to an 11-5 season...I think....
Okay, so it'll be 10-6, I can live with that...

by mushin on Oct 26, 2009 6:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah but we all thought dorsey was a bust

when he looked like crap last year, but now he’s playing good and so will jackson

by TonylovesKC on Oct 26, 2009 6:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

I agree. I like the pick of Jackson

But he wasn’t rated as a number 3 pick or even an over-riding need. Pioli went there anyway.

If he sees value he’ll jump an OT regardless of what anyone else thinks

The Chiefs are on their way to an 11-5 season...I think....
Okay, so it'll be 10-6, I can live with that...

by mushin on Oct 26, 2009 6:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

agreed... except for

“or even an over-riding need.”

D- Line was a HUGE need for this team in 2009

* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season

by stagdsp on Oct 26, 2009 6:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

it was a huge need, but it wasn't considered a #3 overall need

especially a DE

The Chiefs are on their way to an 11-5 season...I think....
Okay, so it'll be 10-6, I can live with that...

by mushin on Oct 26, 2009 6:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

well... they were stuck at #3

they wouldn’t get a player of jackson’s caliber in the 3rd…
couldn’t get a trade down done…
Jackson would have gone to Denver, probably…

* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season

by stagdsp on Oct 26, 2009 7:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't...

think it is hard to find a good rush linebacker. 4-3 defensive end? Yes, absolutely. But, I think we could find a really good one in the 2nd round and he could contribute immediately. Look at Woodley in Pittsburgh. I like George Selvie, Sergio Kindle, Lang out of Troy.

by I_Bleed_Red. on Oct 26, 2009 6:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well..

Elvis Dumervil in Denver was a 4th round pick, hes currently leading the league in sacks.
James Harrison was undrafted, hes 2nd in the league in sacks.
Jared Allen came in the 4th, he is also 4th in the league in sacks.
Trent Cole was a 5th round pick, hes tied for 6th in the league in sacks

I think that shows that an elite pass rusher CAN be found in later rounds.

Then you have other guys who arent necessarily ELITE, but theyre still getting some sacks.

Jimmy Wilkerson, who is tied for 9th place in the league in sacks was a 6th round pick by the Chiefs.
Robert Mathis, 5th round, 11th in sacks
Adewale Ogunleye was undrafted. 13th in sacks with 4.5.

Your last sentence, is exactly why it make sense to move Albert to G.

“It is senseless to put a talent like Albert at Guard. It is a complete waste. Guard is not a difficult position techniquewise compared to Left Tackle.”

No, it MAKES SENSE, to put a talent like Albert at Guard. Guard is his NATURAL position. I think Albert can be a very good LT in this league, but I think he can be an ELITE G in this league. So why not get an ELITE LT, and have our blindside solidified for the next 10+ years? We can then get a Pass Rushing LB in the 2nd and a RG with another 2nd or 3rd round.

Joey Porter and Jason Taylor were both 3rd round picks.

by Petey14 on Oct 30, 2009 5:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

You forgot...

Buluga of Iowa. He will probably be the 2nd tackle taken off the board. Honestly, I not too keen on using our top 5 pick on Okung. I like him, and think he will be good, but I don’t know about great. I would much rather go with the rarest talent on the board. That happens to be Mr. Eric Berry of Tennessee. Kid would help in coverage, run stopping, and some pass rush w/ safety blitzes. And most importantly: an emotional leader for our defense. Honestly, Denver would be nothing without Brian Dawkins leadership. I think we should use some money in FA to fix the line. Their are like 10 quality guards up for sale and we should be able to land one. Logan Mankins, Jahari Evans, Harvey Dahl, Chris Chester (can play C), and Lutui of Arizona. I think Albert will work out at left tackle and we will have good competition at the RT spot next year. (O’Callaghan, C Brown, Richardson) Its the interior offensive line that I am worried about.

by I_Bleed_Red. on Oct 26, 2009 6:13 PM CDT reply actions  

Juniors are hard to project this far out

So far only Bradford can truly enter into a draft discussion in October.

I like Berry but 1st round safties scare the hell out of me for some reason. It’s a phobia

The Chiefs are on their way to an 11-5 season...I think....
Okay, so it'll be 10-6, I can live with that...

by mushin on Oct 26, 2009 6:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Baluga has been playing poorly from what I hear from IA fans

he may not even go pro

I am with you… Berry is THE pick for KC in round 1… if he’s not there, then you can take one of the OTs, and move Albert to Guard… but that’s “plan B”, IMO

I think you take the BEST center on the board in round 2 or 3, and plug him in to start from day one.

Take a great Guard in round 3 – 5…

Get some help at OLB, ILB, TE, WR, etc… wherever a good value can be had.

* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season

by stagdsp on Oct 26, 2009 6:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

Dez Bryant has Haley written all over him

Haley is trying to find a WR ever week to truly implement his offense. Bryant would fit the bill perfectly. Don’t underestimate Haley’s love of slinging the ball

The Chiefs are on their way to an 11-5 season...I think....
Okay, so it'll be 10-6, I can live with that...

by mushin on Oct 26, 2009 6:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

can't argue there

Maybe an OT is #3 on their list for round one?…
S
WR
OT
NT
(priority for round one)

C
OLB
WR
NT
ILB
(priority for round two)

G
ILB
WR
(round 3 priority)

* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season

by stagdsp on Oct 26, 2009 6:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think you'll see two sets of priorities, Haley's and Pioli's

Haley’s round 1 wish list:
WR
S
OT
NT

Pioli’s round 1 wish list:
NT
S
OT
WR

The Chiefs are on their way to an 11-5 season...I think....
Okay, so it'll be 10-6, I can live with that...

by mushin on Oct 26, 2009 6:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Dream scenario...

for me is we solve G (Mankins), C (Chester), and ILB (Dansby) in free agency. Those positions don’t break the bank. Then the draft:

Berry (S, Tennessee)
Cody (NT, Alabama)
Selvie (RLB, South Florida)
Gilyard (WR/KR, Cinci)

I’m worried about RB though and depth at corner.

by I_Bleed_Red. on Oct 26, 2009 6:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

O...

and how could I forget…TE.

by I_Bleed_Red. on Oct 26, 2009 6:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

The blitzer sure didn't

The Chiefs are on their way to an 11-5 season...I think....
Okay, so it'll be 10-6, I can live with that...

by mushin on Oct 26, 2009 6:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

blitzers should be sending Sean Ryan Christmas cards

* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season

by stagdsp on Oct 26, 2009 6:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

that would be a great draft and FA haul, though!

* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season

by stagdsp on Oct 26, 2009 7:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

That..

is probably the best thing I’ve heard about this coming offseason. If that happened, we would have a MAJOR turn around next season.

by Petey14 on Oct 30, 2009 5:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

thanks for this post, though

I’m glad to be talking draft instead of LJ or the Chargers game!

* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season

by stagdsp on Oct 26, 2009 6:22 PM CDT reply actions  

Thought week 8 and the bye was a good time to look to the future.

Wish LJ wouldn’t have had a mental break again on the same day.

The Chiefs are on their way to an 11-5 season...I think....
Okay, so it'll be 10-6, I can live with that...

by mushin on Oct 26, 2009 6:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

that my friend deserves a rec

The Chiefs are on their way to an 11-5 season...I think....
Okay, so it'll be 10-6, I can live with that...

by mushin on Oct 26, 2009 6:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

as does your Fanpost, thanks

* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season

by stagdsp on Oct 26, 2009 7:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Is It Me?

Or do the total number of sacks on Cassel not add up right? You got 31, I keep getting 28, am I missing something? Not being picky, just kinda stood out to me.

"Larry Fitzgerald, move over because there's another young gun, and his name is Dwayne Bowe from Kansas City" - 2009 Cris Carter Hall of Fame WR

In Pioli We Trust! Right?

by KC Nate on Oct 26, 2009 7:05 PM CDT reply actions  

I stand corrected.

The actual total is 26

Philly only had 3 sacks, not 5. And the numbers posted add up to 28 not 31.

My 1st grade teacher is gonna kick my ass….

Post is being corrected

The Chiefs are on their way to an 11-5 season...I think....
Okay, so it'll be 10-6, I can live with that...

by mushin on Oct 26, 2009 7:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

The numbers actually got worse...sheesh

The Chiefs are on their way to an 11-5 season...I think....
Okay, so it'll be 10-6, I can live with that...

by mushin on Oct 26, 2009 7:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

All depends on what we find in Free Agency obviously (likely little to nothing)

But we have got to get pass rush….this is ridiculous…

I agree with DJ that there isn’t a true top 5 tackle and I think Albert will be solid at LT…O’Callaghan might work at RT

It is the interior of our line that sucks so awfully…those are not 1st round positions

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by woodman212 on Oct 26, 2009 7:06 PM CDT reply actions  

At least not early 1st round

Centers Alex Mack (21) and Eric Wood (28) both went in the first round last year.

The Chiefs are on their way to an 11-5 season...I think....
Okay, so it'll be 10-6, I can live with that...

by mushin on Oct 26, 2009 7:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Right.

Good point

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by woodman212 on Oct 26, 2009 8:52 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

I was thinking...

w/ a new agreement not in place by next season (I give it a 5% chance) there won’t be hardly any movement in free agency w/ restricted free agency moving from 4 to 6 years. That is why I think we should target these 3 guys alone because they are the few that qualify:

Vince Wilfork – NE will let him go because they like to let older players walk instead of pay them. They drafted Ron Brace in the 2nd round last year so they have a replacement.

Karlos Dansby – He got franchised in his 6th year so he will qualify and help w/ ILB.

Ralph Brown – A vetern corner from Arizona that will give us competition and depth

Franchise Paige and put a transition tag on DJ
Trade Paige for a 3rd rounder
Trade Waters for a 4th rounder
Trade LJ for a 5th rounder
Trade Dorsey, DJ, and M Leggett to Tampa for Suh’s rights and their 7th

Draft:

1. Berry – Will play FS
2a. Iupati – the best interior offensive lineman of the draft
2b. Selvie – Rush Linebacker out of South Florida
3a. Gerhart – a power RB for Stanford that will replace LJ
3b. Gilyard – a speedy WR/KR from Cinci
4a. Estes – an athletic center who could start for us on day 1
4b. Hudson – an athletic guard from Florida St. that will replace Waters
5a. Rolle – a safety at Florida St. that took a year off to study at Cambridge, will replace Brown at SS eventually
5b. Peek – an amazing blocking TE from Alabama
5c. Robinson – a corner from Florida St. that will be better than M Richardson
5d. Jolly – a left tackle for the Tar Heels that will provide depth behind Albert
7. Geizer – best long snapper in football, maybe we go w/ FB here

They will have a lot of options w/ the line come July and all of our holes would be filled w/ the exception of a dominant slot receiver.

by I_Bleed_Red. on Oct 26, 2009 7:17 PM CDT reply actions  

dominant slot receiver.??

lance long!!!!!
:)

that’s a hellova lot of trades… way too unlikely, IMO.

forget Suh, Keep Dorsey and DJ and get a long snapper in FA…

And forget about a 5th for LJ… couldn’t get that before yesterday… won’t get anything when he gets cut!

* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season

by stagdsp on Oct 26, 2009 7:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Matthews

could easily be signed tomorrow as the blocking TE… that would solve one of those problems

* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season

by stagdsp on Oct 26, 2009 7:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't see them tagging DJ

Unless they can get a trade for him

The Chiefs are on their way to an 11-5 season...I think....
Okay, so it'll be 10-6, I can live with that...

by mushin on Oct 26, 2009 7:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

yeah, that would require overpaying him

I think he works his way back into the good graces by the end of the season, and gets a modest new contract.

OR

he’s traded

* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season

by stagdsp on Oct 26, 2009 7:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Or simply let walk

He wouldn’t be the first guy they gave walking papers when they couldn’t find a trade for him.

The Chiefs are on their way to an 11-5 season...I think....
Okay, so it'll be 10-6, I can live with that...

by mushin on Oct 26, 2009 7:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

Also see Pioli playing "how many picks can you get" with Bellicheck

There should be a lot of movement this year. Especially with all those 5th rounders

The Chiefs are on their way to an 11-5 season...I think....
Okay, so it'll be 10-6, I can live with that...

by mushin on Oct 26, 2009 7:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

yeah, I was thinking that too...

How many times did the Pats trade down last year? a BUNCH

The Chiefs could be that team this year, trading down 3-4 times, ending up with no 1st round picks, but 6 2nd round picks and some later picks!

* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season

by stagdsp on Oct 26, 2009 7:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

And with their 15th pick in the 7th round

:)

The Chiefs are on their way to an 11-5 season...I think....
Okay, so it'll be 10-6, I can live with that...

by mushin on Oct 26, 2009 7:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Won't happen if the Chiefs are picking 1st round #1 to 6 :)

We Will kick at least 4 Teams Asses in 09
And Succop will be the Key in two of them.
" Think and talk positive football off the field." Hank Stram

by Steve_Chiefs on Oct 26, 2009 8:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

They may be stuck with the 1st pick, but they'll be lots of movement later in the draft

The Chiefs are on their way to an 11-5 season...I think....
Okay, so it'll be 10-6, I can live with that...

by mushin on Oct 26, 2009 8:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

Do like the effort

Iupati good but with the # 40 pick
Like Estes

We Will kick at least 4 Teams Asses in 09
And Succop will be the Key in two of them.
" Think and talk positive football off the field." Hank Stram

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