cast-offs, vets who probably should just retire and rookies who might but probably don’t possess the kind of talent worth paying for

Those are the players the new guys brought in!

I know its popular to blame Carl and Herm for everything, but Pioli is not blameless either. He chose to draft two Defensive Linemen that will take a few years to develop even though we had several young and already developing guys on the roster.

He chose to ignore the offensive line problems, choosing instead to try to fill in the gaps with scrubs and cast offs.

Pioli chose to keep Larry Johnson, despite his long history of problems and the record of his ineffectiveness after he was paid.

Does anyone expect miracles of this team? Of course not. Do I expect Hailey and Pioli to live up to their tough talk? Absolutely.

Where are those 22 guys off the street we won 2 games with last year? We need to sign those guys back up!

Plenty of blame to go around?
Certainly.
People jumping overboard before the ship has even left port?
Happening as we speak.

A lot of these same people that are bemoaning what happening now, were the same ones I was arguing with (the Fire HERM crowd) last year.

Haley having more upside them Herm. Herm had a low football IQ when it came to game day. Haley is a smart guy, but like Whitlock said (it hurt to type that, by the way) he lets his emotions get the best of him. Herm didn’t push the players to get better. Haley is pushing them it just appears that he isn’t reaching them all yet. Herm’s teams were fundamentaly weak. Haley is at least preaching fundamentals and technique, but we aren’t seeing results yet. In all three areas I see the posibility for Haley to be FAR superior to Herm. Haley just isn’t living up to it yet. I for one, am willing to give him a full year before I judge if it is going to ever happen.

and I still think it was the right move. My questions center around now was the Haley hire based on an improbable post-season run hype? The guy was an OC for 1/2 years? And did a lot of work with WRs previous to that.
Then we add Clancy Pendergast…I’ll let the article from PK this morning do my talking on Clancy:

What really impresses me about the Cardinals is their defensive tenacity along the front seven. That wasn’t there with any consistency last year under defensive coordinator Clancy Pendergast. Ken Whisenhunt had the club fire Pendergast coming off a Super Bowl season, and the renewed emphasis on aggressive pass rush and run-defense paid dividends Sunday night against the Giants. They had Eli Manning on the run all night and forced him into some bad decisions. Arizona clearly has taken control of the NFC West.

Sounds like a guy we should hire, right?

I see a team that is trying to work with what the have right now. I think they overestimated the level of talent on the o-line at the beginning of the journey and the flaws in that line of thinking didn’t present themselves until training camp. We are still 1-2 years off from having any major league talent see us as a viable option so what ever talent we get has to be homegrown and it’s an insanely painfull process. We are trying to establish a identity and culture but before you do that you have to change the mindset of the team (cough cut LJ for talking that big sh*t cough) It takes a while. Picking yourself up by the bootstraps is hard when you have to manufacture the damn boots yourself. We weren’t equiped with the tools for success last year…2 wins is still 2 wins close games or not. I’m saying give this time to work, or to fail, before heaping scorn on the management, the coaches (except Clancy of course…) and the team.

WTF do people expect this to look like??

Says it all….This should have been expected…