Chiefs RB Larry Johnson's Agent Begins the Damage Control
by Joel Thorman on Oct 26, 2009 8:09 AM CDT
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Larry Johnson's agent, Peter Schaefer, started the damage control last night by talking with ESPN.com's Bill Williamson. If you'll recall, Williamson was the reporter in a July ESPN.com article when LJ said he was back on board with the new Kansas City Chiefs regime.
This quote was posted last night but I wanted to be fair about the situation and make sure everyone saw it.
Here's what Schaefer said last night, per Williamson:
"I talked to Larry about it and he was focusing more on pumping up his father than anything else. He wasn’t trying to downgrade anyone … yes, everyone is frustrated after a loss like this but I wouldn’t put too much into it."
The idea that this was NOT a shot at Haley and instead a compliment to his father is what I figured the sensible folks in LJ's camp would say. Schaefer seems like a pretty smart guy. It's fairly obvious that LJ is frustrated, as evidenced by the following tweets that included condescending and homophobic slurs, and those comments about Haley were likely a result of that frustration. That doesn't make it okay and it doesn't make it right.
Unfortunately for LJ, his past actions have given him a reputation in Kansas City and he no longer gets the benefit of the doubt. He should understand what the public thinks of him, and what he's done in the past, and understand that any comments like this would be viewed as trying to downgrade Haley.
I'll get into some history behind LJ and his agents around 9:00 AM today but I wanted to make sure everyone was aware that someone from his camp has downplayed the comments.
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LJ is a jerked but he an honest one...
LJ is a jerk. Haley is a former golf coach jerk. What are we supposed to be all sensitive for Captain Rage now?
by FrankPitts on Oct 26, 2009 8:14 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
That is an interesting point....
Haley showed no reservations in calling out players for being fat or slow… nor did he keep himself from asking “what the fuck are you doing” on national television? am I really supposed to feel sorry for the guy??
by callmesir on Oct 26, 2009 8:18 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why is this about Haley?
It’s about LJ.
Use employee instead of LJ and boss instead of Haley if that makes it easier to understand. No other work place would allow this to go on (and I dont think it will here).
by Joel Thorman on Oct 26, 2009 8:19 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I absoloutly agree that no other work place would tolerate this crap....
Then again… they wouldn’t tolerate the crap Haley let’s spew out of his mouth… Have you really never gone on facebook and bitched about your boss….
I’m just having a hard time feeling sorry for Haley, just because LJ called him out for his lack of experience….
by callmesir on Oct 26, 2009 8:24 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No one is asking you to feel sorry for Haley
You’re trying to make this about him.
Have you really never gone on facebook and bitched about your boss….
No. I’ve never done this. I would never do this. Who criticizes their boss in a public environment? Maybe I see your point if you thought there was no way it would get back to him but LJ KNEW this would get back to Haley.
by Joel Thorman on Oct 26, 2009 8:32 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I seem to read alot of rants about
my friend’s bosses… but hey maybe that’s just me… I really only have one boss and I’ve only met her 3 times so I don’t have much to bitch about…. so I guess I don’t understand it… I’m sorry if I’m getting off topic… I understand you want this to be a bash LJ thread… and that’s fine… it’ll get there…
I just don’t think writing that haley never played pro ball or that he golfed in college is really that big of a deal…. If I was pissed at my boss maybe I’d tell her that I don’t think her online masters means much….. but I’d have to be really pissed… and I’d have to have millions in the bank with no fear of losing my job…
by callmesir on Oct 26, 2009 8:39 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why would he write it...if he wasn't trying to take a shot?
by vincent2668 on Oct 26, 2009 8:40 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
It can only be a shot if
Haley allows it to be…. is he ashamed of his career path? does he not want people to know he’s woefully underqualified for his job?
by callmesir on Oct 26, 2009 8:44 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
My point is why would LJ
bring it up? While the words may not be harsh. I think everyone knows what the point of LJ saying it was and it was intended to be a shot. If it wasn’t that big of a deal, then it wouldn’t have got posted last night on AP and the agent wouldn’t be out doing damage control.
by vincent2668 on Oct 26, 2009 8:52 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
so if you call your boss me a fucking whore
its only a shot at her if she chooses to let it be. Just asking? (not a shot in any way at your boss) :)
Winning begins with Attitude - Haley and Pioli will be winners in KC!
I'll forever be a Chiefs fan! Only God himself could take that away from me, but when I get to my great reward, I'll rejoin two bigger fans, my Mom and Dad.
by Lanier63 on Oct 26, 2009 8:55 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He didn't say anything that wasnt true
Predictions for 2009:
LJ runs for 1800 yards
Bowe in the pro bowl
Chiefs D finishes in the top 10 in points allowed
Chiefs 10-6
by bonesjackson on Oct 26, 2009 9:00 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No he didn't
But, when I read the comment…it sounds as if he is making the point that our coach doesn’t have a strong background in Football, therefore there are better options out there.
So it is really a slick way of saying – why did we hire this guy? We should have got someone more experienced?
Which is NOT OK to say if your are a player.
by vincent2668 on Oct 26, 2009 9:03 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I agree that is exactly the point he was trying to make...
And it doesn’t really bother me that much
by callmesir on Oct 26, 2009 9:04 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
nothing negative about Haley will ever bother you
this was a dream come true for you.
Winning begins with Attitude - Haley and Pioli will be winners in KC!
I'll forever be a Chiefs fan! Only God himself could take that away from me, but when I get to my great reward, I'll rejoin two bigger fans, my Mom and Dad.
by Lanier63 on Oct 26, 2009 9:05 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
this isn't about if it bothers you, me, or
any other person in here. It’s about…Is it OK for a player to say that about his coach?
by vincent2668 on Oct 26, 2009 9:06 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I think in a real world setting...
no it’s not okay… but like I said… it’s been pointed out many a time that the nfl isn’t like an office job…. people say shit all the time… and say it publicly…. if he came out and said Todd haley is a fag… then yeah I have a problem…
by callmesir on Oct 26, 2009 9:13 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not comparing it to an office job
I’m saying that in the NFL…a player should not be making comments about his coach in public. If he has a problem with Haley…Then be a man and go talk to him in person. LJ put’s these messages out that you have to de-code and thinks he is being slick. If he would never say these things to Haley’s face, then he shouldn’t be putting them on Twitter
by vincent2668 on Oct 26, 2009 9:17 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's one way or the other...
Haley has a bit of a potty mouth so I’m almost sure he’s cursed at LJ… is that any better than what LJ did???? If publicly berating players is OK then it’s okay for players to do the same…
by callmesir on Oct 26, 2009 9:19 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Your coach can call you anything he wants
As a player it’s your job to shut-up and take it. Haley doesn’t go to the paper and call the guy out. He does it to his face.
i don’t know what sporting world you live in. But, coaches curse at their players all the time. That doesn’t make it ok for the players to curse back.
by vincent2668 on Oct 26, 2009 9:23 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
If that is acceptable behavior???
then you can’t say anything about the nfl being professional… that kind of crap does not happen in any professional setting….
by callmesir on Oct 26, 2009 9:29 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Your boss hasnt ever yelled at you?
I know mine has
by tomahawk44 on Oct 26, 2009 9:29 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
no not really....
I’ve never had a boss raise his voice to me… Granted right now I only have one boss that I’ve met like three times… but by god… Have a grown man raise his voice to me… and it wouldn’t end well…. Maybe a hospital setting is just different than the real world… but by God, I’ve never had a boss even look at me funny… I have one manager that is at a different site that has yelled a few times and every time he gets a poor performance evaluation and loses his raise…
by callmesir on Oct 26, 2009 9:47 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
my boss berates me all the time
that doens’t give me the right to berate him back. if i did, i’d be in massive trouble.
by Leaf on Oct 26, 2009 10:19 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
you must have zero self respect...
maybe you should make yourself more valuable… that way they won’t talk to you that way, out of fear of losing you to someone else…
by callmesir on Oct 26, 2009 10:25 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
actually i have quite abit of self respect
i just know my place. when and where to pick my battles. there is a right way to do things and a wrong way. LJs was not the right way.
by Leaf on Oct 26, 2009 1:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Leaf, that doesn't make your boss right
look, Haley’s a schmuck, we all know that … what happens to LJ on the golf comment should be up to the team …
but the REST of LJ’s comments need to be dealt with quickly and strongly by the league … no excuse for those kinds of postings
if you want to be in a public sport, then remember you are in the public spotlight at ALL times
Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisiton!
by upamtn on Oct 26, 2009 11:02 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
obviously you've never been in the military
getting berated happens all the time. but i agree with your public spotlight comment.
by Leaf on Oct 26, 2009 1:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
my boss has made mistakes before
but I have never commented on it publicly. I was raised by calling it respect.
Winning begins with Attitude - Haley and Pioli will be winners in KC!
I'll forever be a Chiefs fan! Only God himself could take that away from me, but when I get to my great reward, I'll rejoin two bigger fans, my Mom and Dad.
by Lanier63 on Oct 26, 2009 9:03 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
He didn't out right call him a fucking whore....
The only thing he said was 
There’s a big difference…. it’s be tantamount to me saying…. My mom went to school at mizzou…. my boss??? Ozarks technical community college…. She got her masters from Yale…. my boss… university of phoenix…. yeah it’s an not particularly nice… but it’s not like he called Haley a fucking whore…
by callmesir on Oct 26, 2009 9:02 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
so he should go play for hsi dad.
Winning begins with Attitude - Haley and Pioli will be winners in KC!
I'll forever be a Chiefs fan! Only God himself could take that away from me, but when I get to my great reward, I'll rejoin two bigger fans, my Mom and Dad.
by Lanier63 on Oct 26, 2009 9:04 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I agree....
Go play in the UFL and tell them the only way you sign is by hiring my dad too….
Too many people are missing that I’m not a huge LJ fan…. I just don’t think his comments about Haley were off
by callmesir on Oct 26, 2009 9:12 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
His Haley comments aren't even the big deal
That was pretty idiotic and would create work place problems in themselves, but it was his bigotted comments to the fans that should get him suspended or cut.
by ChiefDJ on Oct 26, 2009 9:15 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I absoloutely agree...
I said that somewhere else in one of the threads…. if he gets cut for the shit he talked to fans (clients) than great….or if he gets cut for job performance… perfect… but if it’s just because Haley can’t take some criticism from a guy that has done much more for the chiefs… than no… that’s not okay…
by callmesir on Oct 26, 2009 9:20 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What if they cut him tomorrow...
But they didn’t say specifically what for. What would stop you and others from suspecting it’s because, as you said, “Haley can’t take some criticism from a guy that has done much more for the chiefs…”? And what if they said he was cut because of what was said to the fans, would that stop people from assuming it was a “Haley vendetta” ? I guess my point is this whole thing is a lose/lose PR situation for LJ and Haley.
by RA_ChiefsFan on Oct 26, 2009 9:46 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think we should cut him....
I agree it’s a bad position to be in… but I think they should have cut him a long time ago…. They had reason to cut him before this…. so I won’t care that he’s cut…. Just hope it’s not because haley is a crybaby
by callmesir on Oct 26, 2009 9:48 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What exactly was it then???
You clearly don’t think it should be about Haley…. You’re obviously frustrated with what LJ did and wanted to vent and hear other people vent…. I’m just not on that bandwagon yet… yeah it was dumb… but not some kind of epic fail….
I know better than to try and argue with the site admin…. I’ve said my piece… people know where I stand no point in repeating the same crap to everyone
by callmesir on Oct 26, 2009 8:50 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Let me expand...
You’re saying because you don’t feel sorry for Haley that LJ’s comments aren’t much of an issue. That’s not the issue.
The issue is that LJ bashed his head coach in public, not whether we should feel sorry for Haley or not.
Just because LJ has done something wrong in my mind, and I’m debating the facts of it, does not mean this is a “bash LJ thread.”
by Joel Thorman on Oct 26, 2009 8:52 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It is about maturity
EVERYONE gets frustrated with their bosses. Especially if you feel that boss is underqualified and a jerk.
The difference between LJ, apparently your friends and every other immature person who pulls stunts like this is that mature adults realize that publicly bitching about your boss does nothing but land you in trouble.
Mature people go home and vent to their wife or call their dad or someone in their family, and then they go put their head down and go back to work. They do not complain publicly in a way that nothing good can come from.
LJ is and always has been an immature, arrogant prick. I personally agree with some of his assesments of Haley. That doesn’t mean it was OK. You don’t call out your boss in public.
by ChiefDJ on Oct 26, 2009 9:03 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I'm not saying he was right....
But as it’s been stated here a million times, when I made a point about Haley being unprofessional… Football isn’t like a regular office…. I can’t help but think he brought some of it on his self…. Then again… I’m pretty sure the people I know that are bitching in blogs are anonymous…
In the real world… no you don’t call out your boss… but lest we all forget… the NFL is a land of make believe…..
by callmesir on Oct 26, 2009 9:06 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thats where you're wrong
The NFL is a business. Just like businesses we all work at, if you do not perform, eventually you will be gone.
If Haley is unqualified or if his motivational tactics backfire, he will eventually be replaced. Its just a matter of time.
What did LJ doing what he did do to better his situation? NOTHING. It made him a player that pretty much no other team will want to put up. Why would anyone want to put up with an over the hill running back who hasn’t done anything significant in over 3 years that has legal problems and consistently bad mouths his team and coaches?
Mature people learn from their mistakes. Immature people keep banging their head against the wall. Mature people deal with bad situations. Immature people make them worse.
by ChiefDJ on Oct 26, 2009 9:11 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can't argue this with you...
The premise for my argument, is that When I argued that players should be treated with respect and that Haley was out of line for cursing at his players…. I was met with the rhetoric that the NFL isn’t like an office…. I agree that it should be more professional… but Given the fact that I thought it was universally agreed upon that it was different…. I don’t think he was wrong… If it’s okay for Haley to yell obscenities at players then it’s okay for LJ to do this….
by callmesir on Oct 26, 2009 9:16 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wait a minute...
If it’s okay for Haley to yell obscenities at players then it’s okay for LJ to do this
Haley screaming obscenities at his players because they screwed up is one thing. He’s the coach, whether he’s qualified or not is besides the point. He should be getting angry at his players for making dumb mistakes. But he also praises them when they do things right. It’s called motivation. It may not be your way of motivation but it’s something that he’s been used to on past teams. And in a lot of cases seemed to be successful. Plus it’s not like he’s going around yelling at the entire team, it’s usually a few individuals that he feels can play better. LJ yelling obscenities at his coach isn’t meant to motivate. It’s meant to tear down the man and show him no respect. LJ’s comments do nothing but spread poison in the locker room. Look what happened to the Giants when Shockey was complaining about Coughlin. Then look what happened to them when Shockey was no longer apart of the team.
Also, it may be the NFL, but there’s still a chain of command. There’s the players and then there’s the head coach. Players are not equal to the head coach. And even Haley knows that he’s not at the top. The point is LJ doesn’t seem to understand this. Yeah he may make tons of money but that doesn’t mean he can’t get fired. LJ hasn’t learned his place. Even back when Vermeil was coach.
I argued that players should be treated with respect and that Haley was out of line for cursing at his players…
Players don’t get respect just because they made it to the NFL. They earn respect by playing there hearts out, making plays, and winning games.
by RA_ChiefsFan on Oct 26, 2009 9:41 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
what exactly did Haley do to earn my respect????
I think someone needed to call him out a long time ago… maybe it’s a good thing it was LJ because he’s expendable….
There has to be some sort of mutual respect at any level of business…. If it’s okay for your boss to be an unprofessional jackass, he’s the one setting the example for what’s right and what’s wrong….
by callmesir on Oct 26, 2009 9:50 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If anyone is going to call out Haley...
Then it needs to be Pioli and/or Clark Hunt. They’re the guys that brought him in, they’re the guys that have the power to demote him or fire him. LJ calling out Haley only smells of LJ’s ego and sense of entitlement.
by RA_ChiefsFan on Oct 26, 2009 12:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If my boss talked to me
the way Haley talks to the players I would put him on his ass. Just saying the NFL and reality don’t go hand in hand the way you are trying to make it.
Predictions for 2009:
LJ runs for 1800 yards
Bowe in the pro bowl
Chiefs D finishes in the top 10 in points allowed
Chiefs 10-6
by bonesjackson on Oct 26, 2009 8:54 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
"I would put him on his ass"
I believe its called jail time.
Winning begins with Attitude - Haley and Pioli will be winners in KC!
I'll forever be a Chiefs fan! Only God himself could take that away from me, but when I get to my great reward, I'll rejoin two bigger fans, my Mom and Dad.
by Lanier63 on Oct 26, 2009 8:57 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Not in
California. Ask Tom Cable
Predictions for 2009:
LJ runs for 1800 yards
Bowe in the pro bowl
Chiefs D finishes in the top 10 in points allowed
Chiefs 10-6
by bonesjackson on Oct 26, 2009 9:01 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Tom Cable was the boss
different circumstances
Winning begins with Attitude - Haley and Pioli will be winners in KC!
I'll forever be a Chiefs fan! Only God himself could take that away from me, but when I get to my great reward, I'll rejoin two bigger fans, my Mom and Dad.
by Lanier63 on Oct 26, 2009 9:12 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
so it's okay for the boss to beat up
a underling????
by callmesir on Oct 26, 2009 9:17 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
in Oakland, apparantly so
Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisiton!
by upamtn on Oct 26, 2009 9:54 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And you would probably end up in jail for assaulting your boss
This is what I was saying in an above post about immature people.
Immature people do stupid things to act out.
Mature people will just get out. Put your head down, shut up, do your job. If your boss is a raging A-hole that you can’t stand, quit. Its that simple.
by ChiefDJ on Oct 26, 2009 9:06 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
In LJ's defense...
He was prodded by a bunch of immature people as well…. They all know he’s a stupid, selfish immature poo poo head… and they knew they could get a reaction out of him…. now everyone wants to freak out about that reaction…. come on… did we really expect anything less from LJ
by callmesir on Oct 26, 2009 9:08 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Then don't have a Twitter account!!!
Nobody forces this guy to go home and Twitter every night. If you are so sensitive to what people have to say about you…I might not invest my time in Twitter.
by vincent2668 on Oct 26, 2009 9:10 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You're probably right...
Maybe someone should have found a way to make sure a guy like LJ doesn’t have twitter….
by callmesir on Oct 26, 2009 9:22 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
his agent or his dad
Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisiton!
by upamtn on Oct 26, 2009 9:55 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That is no excuse
LJ needs to grow up.
If someone pushes you you don’t push back. He could have just ignored them instead of piling on. Now not only was he slamming his coach, he’s arguing with the fans (who ultimately are paying his check) and proving (yet again) that he is a bigot.
by ChiefDJ on Oct 26, 2009 9:12 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
slamming the coach is one thing - that, to me, warranted a fine at the least (from the team)
but the other crap after that was out of line with any kind of societal norms and warrants a huge fine and suspension from the NFL (and the rest will take care of itself)
Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisiton!
by upamtn on Oct 26, 2009 9:57 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And if you WERE enough of an idiot to do this
You’d have the mind to at least set your profile/Twitter to private, right?
I mean, DUH. How stupid is he for getting down to their level.
BTW, one of those Tweeps (can’t remember which) only opened their account when this whole thing started, so it’s probably a stupid guy who only was wanting to antagonize him.
-cw
Watching the 2009-2010 Chiefs 12 hours ahead of you (in Taipei, Taiwan).
Twittering my every move. Don't act like you're not even slightly interested.
by webby37 on Oct 26, 2009 9:08 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
How stupid is he?
he’s sooooooooooooooooooooooooooo stupid …
somehow I can almost sense a Letterman Top Ten list here
Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisiton!
by upamtn on Oct 26, 2009 9:58 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If he's going to be punished....
And I think he deserves to be…. it should be for making dumb ass comments to a fan… who in the real world would be like a client….
Not for questioning Haley….
by callmesir on Oct 26, 2009 8:26 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
that's true
any punishment should be due to the belittling/homophobic comments to the fans. Saying that about your boss is just a stupid career move.
by jmcgoblue on Oct 26, 2009 8:41 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He said the coach
didn’t play football and was a golf guy. Completely in bounds. My boss was an Air Force guy and I shit talk him all the time when he screws up talking with ARMY customers.
Predictions for 2009:
LJ runs for 1800 yards
Bowe in the pro bowl
Chiefs D finishes in the top 10 in points allowed
Chiefs 10-6
by bonesjackson on Oct 26, 2009 9:01 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I said he should have been gone in pre-season
And we would have saved having to pay his bonus because we won the arbitration.
Instead people will blame the line for LJ playing poorly and LJ will blame it on being misunderstood.
This guy is nothing but an overpaid pompous has been.
This is partly Pioli’s fault for not getting a late rounder. Now if you bench him, he’ll be healthier next year when you trade him. If you (continue) to run him into the ground (like some have said the Chiefs should do), he’ll bounce off the line for 1-2 yards.
This is a joke.
Bill Parcell’s: "You are what your record says you are."
"My job is not to collect talent, but to build a team. Individuals make the Pro Bowl. Teams win championships. That is our goal."—Chiefs GM Scott Pioli.
by THE_TRUTH on Oct 26, 2009 8:18 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
all I know is
in the first half LJ was 9 carries for like 22 yards
Charles came in 1 run for 15.
Winning begins with Attitude - Haley and Pioli will be winners in KC!
I'll forever be a Chiefs fan! Only God himself could take that away from me, but when I get to my great reward, I'll rejoin two bigger fans, my Mom and Dad.
by Lanier63 on Oct 26, 2009 8:59 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would like to say something is going to happen...
but i see this just slipping away with no action. Personally (and I may regret saying this) I would be happier if we just released him and activated Javarris Williams or some other RB to rotate in with Charles and hopefully Kolby.
On the flip side, though, Haley didn’t make him the starter for no reason: He feels hes the best ball carrier we have, mostly because he doesnt fumble.
A man who says he can, and a man who says he can't are both right. Which one are you?
by Bashman on Oct 26, 2009 8:21 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
this "spin" is the same as i interpreted it last night and commented in the original thread
when you look at all 4 of the tweets he put out there, they are all about how awesome his dad is. he was stupid for saying something that referred to haley but i didn’t take it any way other than him trying to make a case for his dad being a great and qualified coach. i don’t know why he feels the need to make a case for his dad but that’s how it looked to me. but i just take things at face value and don’t try to read into them
Never kick a fresh turd on a hot day.
Harry S. Truman
by kcguy on Oct 26, 2009 8:23 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Read the following tweets after that...
by Joel Thorman on Oct 26, 2009 8:24 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
are you referring to the ones where he is replying to other people?
Never kick a fresh turd on a hot day.
Harry S. Truman
by kcguy on Oct 26, 2009 8:27 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
Even if we ignored all the Haley/Dad stuff….the other tweets are punishable by themselves.
by Joel Thorman on Oct 26, 2009 8:33 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
i don't disagree with that
but do we know what the people said to him? it doesn’t excuse what he wrote but baiting a volatile person with shitty comments isn’t right either. this is why players shouldn’t be on twitter unless it’s through a publicist
Never kick a fresh turd on a hot day.
Harry S. Truman
by kcguy on Oct 26, 2009 8:39 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bingo
this is why players shouldn’t be on twitter unless it’s through a publicist
by Joel Thorman on Oct 26, 2009 8:46 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think that's a very wise suggestion...
Maybe you should start some kind of firm specifically regarding athletes and social networking sites…. I bet you’d make a killing… think about how much stupid crap athletes say on twitter….
by callmesir on Oct 26, 2009 8:51 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
A lot of athletes Twitter accounts are already run by PR firms
by Joel Thorman on Oct 26, 2009 8:52 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks for ruining my idea...
so much for me being a millionare now…. geesh…. why didn’t LJ know this…? can I find a way to blame that on Haley?
by callmesir on Oct 26, 2009 9:10 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He didn't just bash Haley, he bashed the fans
I know he got some pretty tough messages, but he instigated it, and he’s an absolute moron for responding…talking about his money of all things. Personally, I think he’s don’t in KC now. I can’t see Pioli letting this go.
by jmcgoblue on Oct 26, 2009 8:30 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
nothing happened with the ego thing
and I would be surprised if anything happened with this as well. Not saying action shouldnt be taken, but i doubt it will until the offseason
A man who says he can, and a man who says he can't are both right. Which one are you?
by Bashman on Oct 26, 2009 8:31 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
true
but the ‘ego’ thing was much more veiled, we all know what he probably meant, but it wasn’t so obvious. This was a direct hit against Haley, and more importantly the fans (who indirectly write his checks for him).
What’s sad is that Haley has gone to bat for LJ repeatedly, and kept him as the featured back even with his struggles. At this point, short of a public apology by LJ (yeah right), I’d be done with him and go with Charles & Smith.
by jmcgoblue on Oct 26, 2009 8:36 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That is true...
But the ego thing never really went anywhere because there was no real explanation for what he meant. Sure we all had theories and they were probably right, but in the end he only said the word Ego over and over.
Here he straight up called out Coach Haley, oh I mean pumped up his dad for no obvious reason after a frustrating home loss to a division rivalry. And it doesn’t matter what the fans said to him, part of his job is representing the Chiefs in a positive way, that doesn’t not include homophobic remarks and making fun of people for not having as much money as him…
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by JoshFromKC on Oct 26, 2009 8:37 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
LJ stuggles
LJ stuggles with the fact that he is not a star in this league anymore. The guy gets a 15 yard run and starts pumping his fist and jumping up and down like he just cracked off a 60 yard TD run. This has nothing to do with Haley, because LJ has done the same thing with every other coach. He’s not a superstar anymore and cant handle it, so his only way to claim that he is still great…is by putting the blame on the people around him.
by vincent2668 on Oct 26, 2009 8:33 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Why would he have the need to talk up this father?
Article states that this wasn’t about Haley. It was about LJ trying to pump up his father.
- Why? Was someone bashing his father? Was he trying to get an NFL job for his father? Is he saying that the only time he stayed out of trouble; is when his dad is on the coaching staff with him to hold his hand?
by vincent2668 on Oct 26, 2009 8:37 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
That's what's strange as well
I don’t understand why he would be doing that unless he was setting himself up to take a shot at Haley.
by Joel Thorman on Oct 26, 2009 8:47 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
My only guess
is that with all the hatred about LJ he received a lot of hateful tweets during the game and somewhere in the mix someone popped a shot at his dad. I don’t have one, but my guess is if I had a dad and someone was talking smack about him I would say something. I take the Haley comments as nothing. On the other hand, he should have left well enough alone and stayed away from Twitter last night. Taking on haters does nothing good for him
Predictions for 2009:
LJ runs for 1800 yards
Bowe in the pro bowl
Chiefs D finishes in the top 10 in points allowed
Chiefs 10-6
by bonesjackson on Oct 26, 2009 8:58 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Haley and his dad are unreleated
He’s an ass and what he did was stupid. He wasn’t just saying “hey, Haley played golf and my dad played for the Skins.” This wasn’t a statement, this was an attack and everyone knows it.
He was implying that since Haley never played football that Haley is a bad football coach. Whether you think Haley is a good coach or not, Larry still can’t come out in public and say something like that and expect not to be punished for it.
I don’t even know why there is a debate. He is an ass and everyone knows it and he is going to get punished for it.
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by Patrick Allen on Oct 26, 2009 9:00 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree. Everyone knows what the point of his comments were
This isn’t about choosing between Do I like Haley or LJ more. It’s about what should a player be posting in public about his coach.
by vincent2668 on Oct 26, 2009 9:12 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
maybe LJ and his dad are unrelated
dad seems like a decent enough fellow …
Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisiton!
by upamtn on Oct 26, 2009 10:02 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't ya know
that’s how rumors get started?! :-)
by ttownmikey on Oct 26, 2009 10:51 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
those comments were about Haley
and the point of those comments was not only to be disrespectful but to push buttons.
Could LJ be stupid enough to think twitter is a personal/private medium. He may as well have made those comments to the coach himself.
by ChiefsDude on Oct 26, 2009 9:01 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
or maybe he's smarter than all of us...
and he knew he could quit taking a pounding… move to another team… and still collect his check…. God, I’d hate to think he’s smarter than me…
by callmesir on Oct 26, 2009 9:11 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
he IS smarter than you! not only that HIS dad played for the coach in Remember The Titans
not only that he makes more money than YOU do so neener neener you’re a wiener and YOU don’t stop HIS paycheck and …
oh, wait
sorry grinning
Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisiton!
by upamtn on Oct 26, 2009 10:05 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is it just me, but I have always thought that Haley was over infatuated with LJ.
Why else does he get all the playing time with those crappy results. There are other backs that are performing as well even if there are other circumstances…fumbles.
by Helmets on Oct 26, 2009 9:18 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Would LJ go face to face with Haley and say the same
Any comment that you wouldn’t say to your coaches face…you shouldn’t be putting on Twitter.
I’m willing to bet LJ wouldn’t say these things in person. He hides behind his Twitter account, then has his agent do damage control when he gets called out.
by vincent2668 on Oct 26, 2009 9:20 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
If he gets cut...
I’m sure he’ll have some choice words… I hope he doesn’t cancel his twitter…
by callmesir on Oct 26, 2009 9:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
he has blocked
it now except to just his friends, which should have been done a long time ago except for his craving the attention that it gets!
by ttownmikey on Oct 26, 2009 10:53 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
problem solved
Put L J on the ps and leave his ass there. show him that he is not king Larry. let him know he is lower than a bench warmer. Maybe the NFL will put his ass on the bench for the rest of the year. as for his dad being a great player and a great coach I seen him and he was not good at all. so LJ can stop about his dad he not all that. I think that LJ would crap his pants if he knew he had someone on his team that was gay.
by Charles # 1 chiefs fan on Oct 26, 2009 11:56 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
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