Just One Solution - Chiefs fans

by 58 was my friend on Oct 26, 2009 12:59 AM CDT Comment 41 comments

All this that everyone is feeling about their favorite team - The Kansas City Chiefs - leads me to ponder - why? Why are we feeling this way every Sunday after a game? Why has this been going on for 2 years? How could the team loose 9 consecutive home games?

Many of us blame the lack of talent, some say the players aren't playing up to expectations, a few wants the head coach fired. We are going through all of this emotions as a result of the constant disappointment and the lack of positive output when it matters - Gameday! A lot have been put into our minds, and our expectations of this organization. This continues to happen because we are somewhat led to believe things have changed or is changing for the better. All of this starts from the top. The organization puts out a great web site, it keeps all the fans informed and we all get insights about the team right when it happens. With Arrowhead Pride, we have enormous amount of info that we would not have had in years prior. This led me to be believe the KC Chiefs Football Club is very good at One Thing - thats PR! The public relations and marketing team of the KC Chiefs is awesome. It gets all of us excited almost every off-season, every training camp but only to have the actual events during the season let us down. So why aren't things getting better? I can't pinpoint it to one thing or another but I know all of us die-hard fans here share the same passion of wanting to see the red and gold regain the success of the 90's.

So, I have come to the conclusion that we desert Arrowhead. It's time to let the organization know we're paying for a product that we expect to feel good about - something that we can enjoy when we attend the games. We want to say this player or that player is our favorite Chief without having to defend him over another fans perception of our own favorite. How can this organization continue to market us a great product only to have nothing to show for it? Is this really the result of amazing marketing and PR efforts? or simply the organizations ploy in making more and more money as long as they can get fans believing and thus selling out season tickets, filling up luxury boxes.

You go out and buy a product because a great salesman sold you at the store and made you believe its worth every penny spend. When you take it home, it causes pain and chaos cuz it doesn't perform the way it was suppose to. It makes you feel like you were a victim of a very good sales presentation by the salesman. The next time you run into this same salesman and he makes another attempt to push an upgraded version of the product, would you buy again? A lot of KC fans did, we continue to renew season tickets, based on the success of this organization in the past? not now. During that span, how many times did KC draft in the top 5? We have been in the bottom of all of NFL for 2 consecutive years. Those spots use to belong to the likes of Bengals, Jets, Cardinals etc.

This is a pattern here. A pattern that's not very healthy. We as fans have a choice - start asking ourselves - What have they done for me lately??? A lot in the offseason, a lot in training camp but nothing in the regular season and nothing in January and YET we are blinded by paying for what was sold to us in the off-season - and led to believe that the product will not disappoint when regular season swings around.

Why do we buy-in into the hype and pay time after time only to have our hopes dwindle? So many fans are mad? Did someone put a gun in their head to purchase tickets? Show the organization that we want a good product not just great marketing. Signing the most high profile GM in Pioli was great marketing. He didn't come in and said we're REBUILDING - he claimed we want to win NOW thus we didn't draft a rookie QB or wait for 2010 draft to find a high profile rookie QB. We traded for a franchise QB and paid him millions (season ticket money from fans), he brought in veteran players Engram, Vrabel etc. because he is not rebuilding, he is going to win RIGHT NOW. Based on that fact, we are expecting better than 1-6, better than getting blown out at home by a division foe, better than losing to a division foe like OAK at HOME (where the QB completed 7 of 24 passes but engineered a winning drive when it mattered.)

I am saying that this season is not only bad, its humiliating and outright pathetic. As bad as any squad of the past was, we always competed against the Broncs, Raiders and Bolts. Just like during the Vermeil years when Oak was crappy, they'd played up to the rivalry and showed up. What happened today at home getting blown out by the Chargers is outright unacceptable. Jon Gruden puts it best " When I got to Oakland, the first thing I told the team was - if you can't even beat your own division foes - don't talk to me about post-season" and he added "how the heck can you change the culture when you loose to the Chiefs 12 consecutive games?" Now that made a permanent imprint in my mind. If Haley can't get the team to be ready and play at the highest level against a division foe, he is not our coach no matter what. If he can't beat the AFC West, he should not be around.

I come to this conclusion only to show you that only one person that can make that switch - Pioli. and Scott will only make that change if all of us fans let him know that we are not buying this crap any longer - vacate Arrowhead - let there be empty seats. Perhaps then, he will swallow his pride and drop that ego and fire a bad coach. As long as we buy into his - ploy, we will all continue to feel the pain every Sunday. If you second guess the point I'm trying to make here - make friend with a die-hard Cardinals or Bengals fan from the 90's. You'll see how making excuses for your HC and upper management will soon become a pattern that is downright impossible to turn around.

This is a FanPost and does not necessarily reflect the views of Arrowhead Pride's writers or editors. It does reflect the views of this particular fan though, which is as important as the views of Arrowhead Pride writers or editors.

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I dont care how bad we are. I will always be loyal to the chiefs.

by thewaffle1 on Oct 26, 2009 1:02 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

you got it wrong

this is not about loyalty. i will be a chiefs fan still but i want the organization to hear us. we matter. without us, the team play to an empty stadium.

i am merely trying to send management a message. i am not asking fans to switch team.

Predictions as of 06.24.2009.

Larry Johnson will be a top 3 fantasy pick once again in 2010 (after a monster season in 2009.)
Dwayne Bowe will be a 2009 Pro Bowl selection.
Brandon Flowers will have at least 6 INTs in 2009 season.
Todd Haley will have a sideline shouting match caught on TV yelling at one of his asst. coaches.

by 58 was my friend on Oct 26, 2009 1:08 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Listen dude...

its not like they are trying to fuck up. If they continue to lose and do poorly they will get fired. I always say you have to give HCs a three year leash and GMs a five year leash. If you continue to turn over your personal year after year we will be the Raiders of today. Don’t cancel your season tickets. You will regret it when they are good again. And it will happen.

by I_Bleed_Red. on Oct 26, 2009 1:16 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

It's not like they aren't trying....give it time...

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by woodman212 on Oct 26, 2009 1:52 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

And "ploy"? Really?

They dont want to be good? They dont realize that the thousands of empty seats they already have could be cured by winning?

You are so right man…they just want to fill 3/4ths of a stadium every game instead of having a 50,000 person waiting list or whatever….

You got it….If we boycott completely they will try harder…And it will be trickle-down effort even, the lineman will block better due to empty seats, the running backs will run harder when there is a small crowd.

No…you are wrong….Send whatever message you want, but it will not affect the effort that is already taking place in the front office, coaching or players….and there will be no firings in the first year so you are wasting your time.

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by woodman212 on Oct 26, 2009 2:11 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Wasting my time???

What the heck are you talking about … wasting time? NO

More like wasting money!

how about this…you pick up my season tickets and I’ll watch for free at home. Since your support will keep this great front office happy and keep marketing you the great product.

Predictions as of 06.24.2009.

by 58 was my friend on Oct 26, 2009 2:15 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

The point you missed is that...

Whether you boycott or not changes nothing….

Noone will be fired this year, no matter how empty the place gets…not this year and probably not next…

Get real.

Watch at home. I do for the majority of games and love it.

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by woodman212 on Oct 26, 2009 2:21 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

i t will change...

yes it will…people have to do something first

by krayfish on Oct 26, 2009 11:01 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Evidence....

Oakland had it’s lowest attendance since 1968 and they will start Russell again next week…

The point is that the teams are trying..especially Pioli who has put everything on the line here…empty seats won’t make them try any harder than they are already

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by woodman212 on Oct 26, 2009 2:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I don't live in KC anymore, but I am really baffled by the all this hysteria.

I know a lot of people are too young to remember or weren’t fans at the time, but when Carl Peterson and Marty Schottenheimer took over the Chiefs in 1989 they inherited a team that already included Neil Smith, Kevin Ross, Albert Lewis (Ross and Lewis were shut down corners), Deron Cherry, Dino Hackett, Lloyd Burruss, Christian Okoye, John Alt, Johnathon Hayes, Mike Bell, Carlos Carson and they drafted Derrick Thomas in the first round. The old regime inherited a team with an already strong defensive base (they would be a top 5 unit in Marty’s first year) and a Pro Bowl left tackle. The team the old regime inherited is light years ahead of this one in terms of talent.

Everybody seemed to realize this was going to be a huge rebuild, that this team had a huge lack of talent (28 guys from last year not even in the league this year?? amazing stat). So what is all the craziness and whining about?

In the off-season Clark Hunt was able to do something pretty amazing — he was able to hire Scott Pioli. Pioli only won 3 Superbowls and was only named Executive of the Year 4 times and also had the only 16-0 team in history. Teams were trying to land Pioli for years and he wouldn’t even meet with teams for interviews. Make no mistake: Scott Pioli was the big fish teams were trying to land for the last half decade and only Clark Hunt was able to reel him in.

This is going to be a project that takes several off-seasons. People need to stop acting like spoiled children that can’t have what they want immediately.

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by Rev. Slappy on Oct 26, 2009 2:18 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Yep....

The performance today is actually very typical for a team in this stage of rebuilding….see Dallas in 1989.

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by woodman212 on Oct 26, 2009 2:22 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Remind me how many games that team won that year? Was it....one?

And everybody said Jimmy Johnson was just a college coach in over his head.

Toby is in HR, which technically means he works for corporate, so he's really not a part of our family. Also, he's divorced, so he's really not a part of his family.

by Rev. Slappy on Oct 26, 2009 2:24 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

no doubt rev no doubt..

but Dallas has a history of winning superbowl after superbowl and getting high quality calibre players…they’ve already proven their worth.

We aren’t Dallas…we have a history of being shitty and losing and never winning superbowls…the ORGANIZATIONS are different in philosiphy. Their owner fights tooth and nail to win every year. No expense is spared. No trade out of the question.

We don’t have any reason to believe that Haley is a Jimmy Johnson…Haley was a golf pro…Jimmy J was a coach already for most of his life on different levels…he came in with a winning record…a winning resume…HALEY has not. BIG DIFFERENCE!!

Your still dealing with imaginary scenarios…until it HAPPENS…all we can do is go by what we see in front of our eyes and that should be self evident!! What are you seeing that the rest of us aren’t REV?

I’m just asking cuz you always have good posts and comments…I just don’t see where you have any evidence to back up your comparison…we are a shitty football team and it shows

by krayfish on Oct 26, 2009 11:05 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Holy shit!!!!

Please don’t even compare 1989 Dallas to this? Haley is nowhere near Jimmy Johnson nor should he be mentioned anywhere close to a Jimmy Johnson. What has Haley done? Look at the Arizona Cardinals tonight, I am starting to see a running game. With Haley last year…they suck at running the ball. His success was purely having exceptional talent and YES, a true head coach. Haley is a coordinator. The quicker that’s fixed the better chance this team has in learning

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by 58 was my friend on Oct 26, 2009 2:25 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Just making a calm observation...

…that this is how everyone expected us to perform this year….That is what happens…

Why are people reacting like this?

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by woodman212 on Oct 26, 2009 2:34 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

woodman..it's simple

we expected to see IMPROVEMENT! Not make believe improvement like so many on here keep clamouring about. REAL improvement. Where is it? What is SO different about this year?

No one expected to get to the playoffs your right. We expected a lot of losses, especially given our schedule but not this pathetic horrific play once again. We are horrible. Do you guys even watch the games?? It’s bad out there. Other teams make fun of us. Minnesota compared us to a scrimmage game. It was on their sports site. They mocked us. Everyone does. The NFL network guys.. right as the Chiefs Highlights against the Skins were getting ready to be showed, they went “do we really have to show this”? UGGGGHHH!!!

by krayfish on Oct 26, 2009 8:02 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

No...Regardless of what YOU expect...a reasonable person should expect a rollercoaster season while rebuilding

Do I watch the games? Yes, yesterdays live, thanks.

We didn’t play Minnesota in the regular season, preseason IS a scrimmage…what’s ur point?

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by woodman212 on Oct 26, 2009 9:29 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

woodman...1st and foremost

do not take any of this personal…we are allies…we both love our Chiefs! But a roller coaster goes both UP and down. We are not UP. Nor have we been UP this whole year. Same as last year, the year before, the decade before that etc.

Minnesoata wasn’t being real. Their article said that playing the Chiefs would be like a scrimmage practice for them…they wouldn’t even have to work for it. They were insulting us. They weren’t being factual.

Even NFL commentators bag on us

by krayfish on Oct 26, 2009 10:18 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

This is the 1st

year in quite some time that we haven’t had a scrimmage game with the Vikings. The Chiefs have had a scrimmage game with the Vikings almost every year while in training camp.

by ttownmikey on Oct 26, 2009 12:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Why do you think he's just a coordinator?

Give some reasons and “he sucks” isn’t a reason, it’s an opinion.

Toby is in HR, which technically means he works for corporate, so he's really not a part of our family. Also, he's divorced, so he's really not a part of his family.

by Rev. Slappy on Oct 26, 2009 2:42 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

reason - 1-6

by krayfish on Oct 26, 2009 11:10 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Leadership skills

He possess none! To be a head coach, you don’t have to just be smart at drawing or understanding X’s and O’s. Its much more than that.

You’d have to bring the best out of your players no matter what the circumstances may be. What Haley have done is threaten every one of them to the point the can’t even play for the love of the game. Thats right, the are football players for a reason – they love the game or grew to love playing it at some point in their lives. Todd Haley has completely taken the fun and love of of the players.

False starts = tense and uptight
Mental mistakes = apprehensive
Drops = anxious
Bad throws = stress, burden

All of the above are signs you’d see if you attended courses about management and leadership. That is what Haley has put on the team. STRESS. He is not about winning and team camaraderie – he is about fucking totalitarian – “you don’t listen to me? FIne, I’m the coach, just wait and see!”

He is nothing like a Parcells. Bill can work his ways with different approaches. The Tuna understands psychology – different players have different buttons that you as a leader can turn on. Example: referring to Terry Glenn as HER. Vermeil did something similar with LJ – with the diaper reference. It worked. Haley has one way – yell and cuss. Put down a player even before he gets to know them – Example: Brian Waters. What sort of leader, without even introducing yourself – tells your Pro Bowl guard that he can find players off the street to play better than a guy – who’s simply excited to meet his new coach?

It’s ok. You can continue to love and praise Haley. One of these days, he’d give you a few tips on putting or perhaps a full golf lesson.

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by 58 was my friend on Oct 26, 2009 1:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

...

And since we had all those BEFORE Haley and they have all improved significantly, we can conclude what?

Thanks

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by woodman212 on Oct 26, 2009 2:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

?

What

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by 58 was my friend on Oct 26, 2009 4:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

They have...

a running game tonight for the first time because Mr. Wells, their first rounder, decided to step it up. E James was washed up when Haley had him and Hightower is a situational back.

by I_Bleed_Red. on Oct 26, 2009 5:06 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

absolutely correct

Haley and Johnson in the same breath?? I think not…you have to EARN that right…which means you have to have actually done something first.

Jimmy was an accomplished coach in college before coming to the NFL.

Haley was a golfer.

by krayfish on Oct 26, 2009 11:10 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

You’re one of my favorite posters here. You make sense, I think that’s why I like you. And maybe not living in KC anymore is part of it.

I am a Chiefs fan to the core thick and thin. Our family has close ties to the organization, I have lifelong ties to the city. Going to Chiefs game as a child was part of what developed my passion for the career I’m a part of now.

I think, though, that being away from the city and the incessant banter of talk radio allows you to remove yourself from the equation and not be caught up in the right now. You want some real Bad News Bears-type stuff? I’m surrounded by Lions fans in Detroit. Seriously. They have a few very talented options on offense, but the team is still littered with holes. Oh yeah, they have Gunther, too. I like Jim Schwartz, but management is still sketchy (the Roy Williams trade was great, though). I wouldn’t trade our team in a million years, and if you can say that about a handful of teams, things could be worse.

Unless money is the issue, I believe that unless your owner is Al Davis or William Ford, just emptying the seats isn’t the answer. The only time clearing the stadium is a viable option is if ownership is an issue. It’s hard to even criticize Dan Snyder, who even though the Redskins have faulted, he opens his pocketbook as much as anyone.

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by Bryan Everson (The Royalty of Roto) on Oct 26, 2009 4:04 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Everyone has a starting point

When Jeff Fisher took the Titans job, he was a nobody.

When any coach, gm or player is new at that job they are a nobody.

Haley did a bad job Sunday, he knows he did.

So do the players.

When the talent level in KC goes from the current C- to a B or B+ you will huge improvements.

A C- team cannot beat a B+ team, unless that B+ is riddled with disorder, I.E. the Redskins.

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by Peterman700 on Oct 26, 2009 3:02 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Thank you

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by woodman212 on Oct 26, 2009 3:05 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

you hit the nail on the head 58

I am glad i am not the only not just disappointed but angry about the situation at one arrowhead drive. There is no question that the front office has been about as good of a pr team as you can get. They have sugar coated for years and now the chocolate is all over their hands. Like i have said before i was a season ticket holder for all the years marty was here and it was a wonderful time at arrowhead back then despite of the two home playoff losses. I would love to just have the chance to field a team half that good …at least we might win 6 or 7 games as it is today we will be lucky to win more than the 2 games we won last year.

by bubster66064 on Oct 26, 2009 6:33 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Wow! I should open a kool-aid stand at AP...

we still have takers here?? This post is dead on accurate. It’s not about not being loyal. WAY MISSED THE POINT!! We have rights. You know what??

Pioli and Haley and every Kc Chiefs player…they work for US!! For you and me. Yah that’s right. WE pay THEIR salaries. WE DO!!! If you don’t believe it, stop going to games, stop watching the games, stop buying anything Chiefs for one year. See what happens. Ok we’re not going to do that but…

The point is valid. Your parents and mine and our children will continue to support the enormous salaries of ungrateful ego-maniacs who’s spin doctors are mega superstars. We deserve better than this.

But everytime we try to have an honest open discussion about how pathetic this organization is historically here in KC, everyone get’s pissed. AT WHAT?? Tell those of us who are finally waking up, where we are wrong. Show us the IMPROVEMENT this year. Show us where our countless millions upon countless millions of dollars have gone, and what we get back for them as fans. Tell us. Please.

I get disgusted by this whipping boy attitude we have here in KC. It’s ok for the big shots to come in here and pull our strings year after year while we drink the kool-aid and spend our money every year while they drive their Rolls Royce’s and Mercedez to the games and sit in the private suites and enjoy the fruits of our labor and deliver us losing bullshit team after losing bullshit bullshit BULLSHIT team.

This has NOTHING to do with needing more time. This is straight up about us getting shanked all the time here in KC. Just like Cleveland and just like Detroit. We are disposable commodities to them.

Did you guys see Seymour play this year?? How about Porter against Brees?? How about the impact of Haynesworth not being a Titan anymore?? How about Sharper?? Yah he sucks so bad that he’s averaging a pic every single game. What about Dawkins?

We were supposed to try and win NOW!! That IS what Pioli promised. Now the rhetoric has changed in as much as it went from NOW to PROCESS…remember him using that word about game 3 of this season on 610 am?? Well he did. Now it’s flat out rebuilding. What next? Are they going to come out and say we are COLLAPSING?

This post hits a nerve simply because we as humans and as fans don’t want the sting of admitting that we root for a pathetic losing organization. But you show me why we don’t and I’ll drink the kool-aid too. Tony G. never ever ever ever ever ever ever ever saw a single playoff win in his entire career here with us. THINK ABOUT THAT!! NEVER!!!!

Who gives a shit about our 90’s dominance? It’s not dominance unless you win the superbowl. We were spun into believing that Pioli was going to come in with his wizard like trade/draft/FA skills and turn this thing around. I don’t care that we aren’t 11-5 this year. Neither does anyone else. But 1-6??? But the very very very bottom of the barrel on statistics on almost every category across the board? AGAIN? REALLY?
And yet so many of you still clamour in here about “oh just give it time” …“yah but”…IT"S BEEN 40 years people…40 + years…How many more years do you need???

Yah but what?? but here we go again?? We are horrible and pathetic. There is NO excuse. YOU ARE WHAT YOUR RECORD SAYS YOU ARE PERIOD!! Pioli and Haley should be held accountable for this trainwreck. If they improve us next year, so be it and good for them, that is their job after all. So yay if they finally do their fuking job, let’s all slobber on them and beg for them to touch us so we can feel blessed.

They need to buy smaller house’s and cheaper cars and take pay cuts so we can afford to buy a team that will win!! I’m tired of this rip off organization dicking us over year after year while we throw money around at them like it’s candy. BULLSHIT!!

WE DESERVE BETTER!! great post and you are dead right despite what the kool-aid drinkers say…we ARE what our record says we are and we COULD have done a much better job of trading and FA to get us on the right track this year. There is no excuse for this joke of an offensive line. We don’t have rookies on our line you know!! Their ALL veterans by the way. They need to play like it. But they can’t because we don’t have any talent. Our Defense is not loaded with rookies this year either. But they play like it is.

It’s broken from the top down and the bottom up…FIX THIS SHIT!! NOW!!

by krayfish on Oct 26, 2009 7:56 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs

FIX SHIT!

Amen!

I’ve been trying to get people to understand this, and I thank you for bringing it up. Now, how are going to go about it?!

Plan A: FIRE EVERYONE! I’m not just talking the head coaches who have been on staff with no talent for less than a year, or the GM who’s trying to drastically alter the roster without giving away oversized contracts to cap liabilitiies in a weak free agency class! Those two obviously have to go! They didn’t generate new great players out of their ass! FIRE THE CLOWNS! No! I’m saying, the ushers. YOU ARE WHERE YOU SIT YOUR PEOPLE! Concession workers! I’m tired of bowing to their almighty sanctimonious registers! VIVA LA REVOLUCION!

Now, firing everyone and starting over from scratch while completely blowing out our cap space on big name free agents in a desperate attempt to improve WILL work. BUT if for some reason it DOESN’T (I like putting RANDOM words in CAPS!), I have plan B!

Plan B: TIME MACHINE! That’s right! Time machine! We’re going to go back in time, and sign every free agent that was out there this year! That’s right. ALL OF THEM! Casey Hampton, the best offensive lineman available doesn’t want to uproot his home? Too bad! We MAKE him resign! Brian Dawkins doesn’t want to play for us? TOO BAD! We say he has to! And he will! BECAUSE WE DEMAND IT, GODDAMN IT!

I don’t care about what you nancies are going to say about how this isn’t plausible and building something that’s valuable and has long-term success takes time and diligence! I want results NOW! WE DEMAND IT! And I don’t want to hear about how time travel is physically impossible! If that were true, would Pittsburgh have won a superbowl?! Listen, if the Dolphins and Atlanta can go from 1-15 to the playoffs, so can we! And then when we fall back to earth like they are, y ou know what we’re going to do?

FIRE EVERYONE!

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by Ridiculous Matt on Oct 26, 2009 1:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Walk the walk - Krayfish

That to me is a response of a TRUE and DIE HARD fan. ONe who bleeds red cuz it hurts deep inside to see your beloved team fall to the waste side and becomes a laughing stock in a mere 3 seasons.

I wrote this post because for the past 2 years, after every Sunday Sep-Dec (except for maybe 3 weeks), I’d go WTF!!!!, and Krayfish hit it right on – its not about the losses – we aren’t even competitive. We are at the bottom of every possible stat category in the NFL.

Who da fuk did we beat this year? The Redskins??? The sorry self destructing Skins whos got a shittier coach than ours? Do all the kool-aid drinkers think if 250lb heavyweight boxer beats up a 160lb fly weight boxer a victory? The only reason KC won vs Skins was because of our same dumbass problems, BAD COACHING, TEAM UNPREPARED, and most of all – lockerroom not being together. When your coach yells and screams at you, as a player, you’d only take it so far, when it works and the team wins, he can extend that screaming but when the screaming and yelling and cussin continues but the team looses, you wear out. It’s beginning to show.

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by 58 was my friend on Oct 26, 2009 1:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I know!

Let’s all scream and cuss about the coach! That’ll fix it!

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by Ridiculous Matt on Oct 26, 2009 1:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

At the risk of going all "conspiracy theory"

Does anyone else wonder if its just luck that these last two seasons we’ve been WAY below the cap at the same time the Chiefs are putting major money into Arrowhead? Last year we could blame it on Herm’s youth movement. This year we can blame it on the new regime taking over. The bottom line is the last two seasons we have been WAY short on talent while being WAY under the cap. That is the part that bothers me most. Now, I have said before that I don’t think we should go about things like Snyder in Washington and just pay out the nose for big names, but the talent level has got to be better then it has been. I’m just not so sure Clark Hunt should get a pass while the GMs and coaches these last couple years get bashed left and right. My hope is that once the stadium is finished and the new regime has had time to get established, Clark will open up the checkbook and get us some players.

It's a good thing Pioli and Haley aren't running AP or a lot of you guys would of been traded or cut for cast offs from the Pats Pulpit.

by KCporkchop on Oct 26, 2009 8:38 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs