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Chiefs' Page, Niswanger and Albert Highlight Injury Talk

Kansas City Chiefs coach Todd Haley walks off the field following an NFL football game with the San Diego Chargers Sunday, Oct. 25, 2009, in Kansas City, Mo. The Chargers beat the Chiefs 37-7. (AP Photo/Ed Zurga)

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26 days ago: Kansas City Chiefs coach Todd Haley walks off the field following an NFL football game with the San Diego Chargers Sunday, Oct. 25, 2009, in Kansas City, Mo. The Chargers beat the Chiefs 37-7. (AP Photo/Ed Zurga)

The Kansas City Chiefs have been relatively lucky this season in terms of injuries.  Whether it be because of the conditioning or pure luck, the Chiefs have consistently had few players on the injury report.

This week, injuries are a topic of conversation. Before we get onto a few of the injury situations, I wanted to share this quote from Kent Babb of the Kansas City Star yesterday morning:

But the tallest challenge for Haley has been establishing a philosophy that injuries, which he says are occasionally unavoidable, are sometimes viewed as a sign of weakness. Free safety Jarrad Page faced doubts after he suggested during the preseason that an injury should keep him out of the Chiefs’ third exhibition game. Johnson has endured several nagging injuries that kept him on the sideline during practices and threatened his job security.

Haley has made it clear that the way players react to injuries might determine their futures in Kansas City. If players nurse their wounds too long or report minor issues as long-lasting problems, Haley takes mental notes.

Interesting stuff.  Check out the full article here.  Definitely worth the read.

More on Rudy Niswanger being carted off, Jarrad Page's healthy scratch and an inactive Albert after the jump.

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Niswanger carted off

Chiefs C Rudy Niswanger went down in the second quarter with an apparent knee injury.

On a 4th and one, QB Matt Cassel ran a quarterback sneak over center Rudy Niswanger.  After the failed attempt, trainers had to help Niswanger off the field where he was walking with a heavy limp.

He went to the bench where a few trainers gathered around him.  A few minutes later, he was brought off the field on a cart.

All we know at this point, is that it's a knee injury and he did not return.  I could tell from my seat that he was in quite a bit of pain when he was trying to walk.

Wade Smith, who started at left tackle in place of the injured Branden Albert, slid over to center.  Barry Richardson, who was just promoted from the practice squad last week, took Smith's spot at left tackle.

Quite the shuffle.  My guess is that a few centers might be worked out today and tomorrow.

Page is a healthy scratch

Safety Jarrad Page appeared on the injury report as a full participant in practice and probable for Sunday.  Per head coach Todd Haley, Page was a healthy scratch.

"I think he was healthy enough to play," Haley said.

Safety Jon McGraw started in his spot.

"I thought McGraw had played very well the last couple weeks when he's been in there," said the head coach.  "Again, it's a roster deal there where we're trying to juggle a lot of different spots and who we think can help us any given day."

McGraw started last week when Page was out with a shoulder injury.  McGraw had been running with the first team during practice.

Albert is inactive

Left tackle Branden Albert was inactive yesterday  Multiple reports as the week progressed suggested the odds didn't look good for him, and they were right.

The Chiefs were especially thin at tackle yesterday when Smith had to move over to center so his presence was missed.

Like I've said before, I'm not privy to the details on his injury but you've gotta wonder whether Haley had the bye week in mind.  If Albert sits now, that'll be three consecutive weeks of resting the ankle.

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Haley keeps them on their toes but has not been pushing guys to play when they

were not healthy (Cassel, Albert, Page, etc). He just will not allow slackers.

by jcox31mc on Oct 26, 2009 11:01 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

More evidence

that Niswanger IS NOT an interior Lineman (I doubt he has the feet to play tackle) He was injured last season on the same type play (QB keeper). And once again Smith outplayed Niswanger.

I hate to see a guy like Niswanger get hurt, but maybe it’ll be a catalyst for change on that Line. (other than @ RT) Pioli/Haley will now realize that Smith should be the starting Center or move Waters their and start Smith at Guard. Now I’m under no illusion or delusion that Niswanger is the sole problem, but he is the weakest link!

Niswanger was hurt this time, but if they don’t get that pass rush up the middle slowed down soon, it’ll be the QB’s being carted off.

Wade Smith needs to be starting!

by JohnNdallas on Oct 26, 2009 11:27 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

btw

I saved all of LJ’s tweets if they are ever needed.

as for the injuries.
Niswanger should have never been hurt, hated that call, wouldve been a long sneak, and we’re lucky cassel didnt get his leg rolled on.

Page is obviously on the edge of Haley’s circle, seems to be getting pushed out.

Albert: bye week plain and simple, we all knew he wasnt playing.

And Id like to take this time to say I think when you have the worst starting RB in the nfl, that includes yards per carry, blocking,..how can you expect the pass game to work without a line, a run game and always facing 3rd and long….Charles summed it up best saying we missed throws, dropped balls missed blocks..execution.,,if charles had 140 plus touches, im sure he wouldve found the end zone, certain in fact.

by SDChief on Oct 26, 2009 11:31 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

if he would’ve had 140 plus touches though, how many fumbles or missed blocks like the one he had on the blocked punt would he have? Would Cassel still be our starting QB or injured by now due to a missed block by Charles?

by Kristospherein on Oct 26, 2009 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'd like them

I would like a copy of them…could you email them to me? ethanives@gmail.com

by groundedchevy on Oct 26, 2009 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Defensive Leader

I know this has nothing to do with this article, but I read arrowheadpride everyday and i’ve never seen anything about which defensive player wears the helmet with the headset. Does anyone know which player/players wear the “special helmet”

by groundedchevy on Oct 26, 2009 12:00 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

good question, I have no idea

But sometimes, it looks like Belcher is out t here running that D…

by SDChief on Oct 26, 2009 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Should be the helmut with the Green Sticker on it

We Will kick at least 4 Teams Asses in 09
And Succop will be the Key in two of them.
" Think and talk positive football off the field." Hank Stram

by Steve_Chiefs on Oct 26, 2009 12:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Corey Mays

I think it is Corey Mays, but I will have to look next time.

by Nick Britt on Oct 26, 2009 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

How can you be so sure? :P

by Kristospherein on Oct 26, 2009 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nice find dude!!!

I spoke too soon, I see it now. Get a good look at it when he’s called for roughing the passer. lol

by JohnNdallas on Oct 26, 2009 12:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That was an awesome play for Corey

We Will kick at least 4 Teams Asses in 09
And Succop will be the Key in two of them.
" Think and talk positive football off the field." Hank Stram

by Steve_Chiefs on Oct 26, 2009 1:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, that's what it looked like yesterday

Belcher and Mays running the D.

"I don't know if I want to go to New York. They'll have to pay me a lot more money because I like it here in Kansas City." -- Roger Maris

by KaloPhoenix on Oct 26, 2009 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just looking at game rewind

Looks like the Chiefs have opted out of a communication device, (see no chartreuse dot) But Mays and Belcher are taking the signals from the side lines.

by JohnNdallas on Oct 26, 2009 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree.

I believe they have opted out of communications. Period.

I remember Dawson to Taylor, Kenney to Carson, and Blackledge catching the snap in his facemask. Seen it all...

by BinSC on Oct 26, 2009 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Haley needs a Reality Check..........

he will never win consistently due 2 his ego and treatment of players…..is it me or does he treat all of Herms ex players like dirt…last i checked the guy he drafted Jackson didnt record a tkl yesterday…..and he still starts……he’s a walking double standard!

by clockinoncloud09 on Oct 26, 2009 12:16 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Jackson should be recording a few tackles each game but sacks and tackles are not what the ends are supposed to be doing in a 3-4…their main purpose is to stuff the box on runs and to take on tackles so the LBs can get free to the QB on passes. Also, with all the easy passing going on yesterday, there were not many opportunities for him to get a tackle.

by Kristospherein on Oct 26, 2009 12:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah the listed LB's had 24 tackles yesterday

Mayes and Williams had 7 each.
Edwards and Dorsey contributed 3 apiece

We Will kick at least 4 Teams Asses in 09
And Succop will be the Key in two of them.
" Think and talk positive football off the field." Hank Stram

by Steve_Chiefs on Oct 26, 2009 1:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Excellent Question

I always assumed it was Williams, but not sure about that. It’s generally an inside LB’er.

by JohnNdallas on Oct 26, 2009 12:17 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Brown or Vrabel

I would almost be surprised if it wasn’t Brown or Vrabel. If it is Williams…does this explain the reason DJ isn’t starting?

by groundedchevy on Oct 26, 2009 12:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

SDChief

may be right, you do see Belcher giving a lot of hand signals

by JohnNdallas on Oct 26, 2009 12:23 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Niswanger Injury a Blessing in Disguise?

I am hoping the Niswanger injury becomes a blessing in disguise, just as I hoped the Mike Goff injury would be. It forces us to re-evaluate some of the guys we already have (Alleman, Ndukwe, Richardson, Colin Brown, etc.) and also look at free agents. IS AQ Shipley still available? He is a guy I liked coming out of the Draft, but is on the Steelers PS right now.

Here is the rule regarding PS players: "a player under contract to a club as a Practice Squad player is completely free to sign a contract with another NFL club during the season in order to be on the second club’s Active/Inactive (i.e., 53 man) list. A practice squad player may not sign an NFL Player Contract with his Club’s next opponent later than 4:00 p.m., New York time, on the sixth day preceding the game (except in bye weeks, when the prohibition commences on the tenth day preceding the game).If another club signs a Practice Squad player to its 53 man roster it does not have to provide any sort of compensation to the player’s former club but it generally must keep the player on the 53 man roster for at least 3 weeks, thereby mandating that he earns in 2007 the minimum first year salary for said 3 week period ($285,000 prorated weekly). "

I say bring him in.

So far, every position on the OL has been affected by injuries. Maybe Haley’s stress on losing weight is the culprit? Would be a good question to ask at a press conference.

by Nick Britt on Oct 26, 2009 12:43 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

hmmm

Everyone is so quick to blame Haley. Maybe its due to the fact that opposing teams Dline outmatches our Oline physically. When you are getting beat play after play your eventually going to get yourself hurt trying to beat them. imagine if Haley would have inherited a talented team. Give the guy a chance. Jesus we’ve been bad for long enough…did you guys really think a rookie coach was going to change this franchise around in 3 months?

by groundedchevy on Oct 26, 2009 1:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Players

You have to have players to compete. I think more blame should go to Pioli for thinking he could make it through the season with our Oline. It is Pioli’s job to give Haley the tools he needs to succeed. Also Pendergast needs to be shown the door after this season. He isn’t much better than Gunther. I think our defense has a lot more talent than they show. Still comes down to Pioli for not providing the talent. At the same time tho you can’t expect to rebuild a team with so many holes in one year. With our current O-line i’m surprised we have even been competitive in a few games this year. Again it is not Haley’s fault we don’t have an Oline

by groundedchevy on Oct 26, 2009 1:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The coach must change his gameplan

to the players he has. The coach should not run off/ bench players that are as good or better than their replacements.

by NJ Chiefs Fan on Oct 26, 2009 2:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

we’ve been bad for long enough…did you guys really think a rookie coach was going to change this franchise around in 3 months?

Kind of like Mike Smith, John Harbaugh and Tony Sparano did last year?

Kinda.

I ♥ Dick Vermeil

by craig in calgary on Oct 26, 2009 2:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah cause

Mike Smith and John Harbaugh inherited the same type of team as Haley did. And how’s that Miami turnaround working for Sparano this year?

by RA_ChiefsFan on Oct 26, 2009 2:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Mike Smith and John Harbaugh both inherited 4-12 teams

Miami has looked great this year, they outplayed the Saints and Colts but ended up with tough losses.

I ♥ Dick Vermeil

by craig in calgary on Oct 26, 2009 2:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

One could argue

One could aruge that all three teams had a higher talent level when the rookie coaches took over. We have been horrible for 3 years…not just one horrible season.

by groundedchevy on Oct 26, 2009 3:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs


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