Sunday Night Football Open Thread

My general feelings right now

Before you judge a man, walk a mile in his shoes; after that, who cares?! He's a mile away and you've got his shoes!

by SuperTurtle on Oct 25, 2009 6:49 PM CDT reply actions

Im more like

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by averagegatsby on Oct 25, 2009 7:29 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs

Big night for me

I decided the winner of tonights game will be my new favourite team ;-)

Week 7 Prediction:
Kansas City Chiefs 77 - San Diego Chargers 2

by craig in calgary on Oct 25, 2009 6:50 PM CDT reply actions

Before you judge a man, walk a mile in his shoes; after that, who cares?! He's a mile away and you've got his shoes!

by SuperTurtle on Oct 25, 2009 6:51 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs

I'm just kidding

I already decided the Vikings are my new team

Week 7 Prediction:
Kansas City Chiefs 77 - San Diego Chargers 2

by craig in calgary on Oct 25, 2009 6:53 PM CDT up reply actions

Cards win tonight.

The Chiefs were actually good the last time Kenny Smith has played in a game. Gives you an idea of how long ago that was. lol

by Chiefsfan85 on Oct 25, 2009 6:58 PM CDT reply actions

Looking at the scores today

The parity (or lack thereof) of the nfl is strikingly obvious

GB 31 CLE 3
SD 37 KC 7
IND 42 STL 6
NE 35 TB 7
NYJ 38 OAK 0
TOTAL 183-23
Shows that the competition levels in the NFL are slowly drifting apart

Before you judge a man, walk a mile in his shoes; after that, who cares?! He's a mile away and you've got his shoes!

by SuperTurtle on Oct 25, 2009 7:10 PM CDT reply actions

And 45-10 Cin Chi

So that makes it 228 to 33

Before you judge a man, walk a mile in his shoes; after that, who cares?! He's a mile away and you've got his shoes!

by SuperTurtle on Oct 25, 2009 7:11 PM CDT up reply actions

Ive said this other places...

and I dont mean to beat a dead horse, but parity in the NFL is an illusion. The same teams win every year and there has been for more “dynasties” in the NFL than in the MLB as of late.

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by averagegatsby on Oct 25, 2009 7:32 PM CDT up reply actions

It hasnt been THIS bad though

Before you judge a man, walk a mile in his shoes; after that, who cares?! He's a mile away and you've got his shoes!

by SuperTurtle on Oct 25, 2009 7:36 PM CDT up reply actions

I think its only going to get worse.

The franchises that are winning are the smart franchises. They are also the franchises that aren’t afraid to make moves to piss off their fan base.

GB got rid of Favre
SD got rid of Marty, and are slowly phasing out LT
IND let Marvin go
NE Ty Law, Lawyer Milloy, as well as many others

These franchises do shit the right way.

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by averagegatsby on Oct 25, 2009 7:39 PM CDT up reply actions

My theory is that it’s partly due to the skyrocketing prices of early round draft picks. It doom teams that get them, especially when they miss. The common theory among GMs is that the best deal is to get a bunch of second and third rounders rather than a low first. It’s really shifted from the time when having an early pick was considered “good”. Now those teams are hamstrung by the costs. They have so much money locked up in those first rounders that they are hurt in pursuing FAs. I think it’s part of the story.

Of course the main driver is bad management and ownership changes more slowly than players and coaches and is typically less obvious.

Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend. Inside of a dog it's too dark to read. - Groucho Marx

by Big Chief on Oct 25, 2009 8:03 PM CDT up reply actions

I dunno...

I guess thats possible, but I think its that good front offices are successful and bad onces aren’t. If you make smart free agent moves and intelligent drafts then you would be fine.

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by averagegatsby on Oct 25, 2009 8:04 PM CDT up reply actions

Chris

In the future when tomahawk44 doesn’t post a SNF/MNF thread, would you consider making the replacement a FanPost that is promoted to the front page instead of a Story?

I only ask because when they are a Story, it gets pushed down quickly and it seems we have better traffic in them when they are visible in the FanPosts.

Thanks, man.

Erykah Badu, I have accepted your proposal. So, Mrs. DTR, let's get to consummating...you are on notice.

"All praise Chiefus."

by DThomasReigns on Oct 25, 2009 7:50 PM CDT reply actions

Yeah, this place is dead lol

Or maybe theyre all in LJ’s tweet post

Before you judge a man, walk a mile in his shoes; after that, who cares?! He's a mile away and you've got his shoes!

by SuperTurtle on Oct 25, 2009 8:01 PM CDT up reply actions

It happened last week too.

Erykah Badu, I have accepted your proposal. So, Mrs. DTR, let's get to consummating...you are on notice.

"All praise Chiefus."

by DThomasReigns on Oct 25, 2009 8:02 PM CDT up reply actions

Yep

and last week should have been somewhat celebratory!

by ttownmikey on Oct 25, 2009 8:03 PM CDT up reply actions

Totally.

Erykah Badu, I have accepted your proposal. So, Mrs. DTR, let's get to consummating...you are on notice.

"All praise Chiefus."

by DThomasReigns on Oct 25, 2009 8:03 PM CDT up reply actions

NBC, FIX YO GREEN GAMUT!

I’m tired of watching SNF that looks like it is being played on a golf course in November.

Erykah Badu, I have accepted your proposal. So, Mrs. DTR, let's get to consummating...you are on notice.

"All praise Chiefus."

by DThomasReigns on Oct 25, 2009 8:03 PM CDT reply actions

I thought the grass in the Meadowlands has always looked that drab

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by averagegatsby on Oct 25, 2009 8:06 PM CDT up reply actions

What you doing here?

I thought I saw a civilian ban performed on you in one of those argumentative post-game threads!! :-)

by ttownmikey on Oct 25, 2009 8:10 PM CDT up reply actions

you saw nothing

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by averagegatsby on Oct 25, 2009 8:12 PM CDT up reply actions

Why do I suddenly want to shoot womprats?

Erykah Badu, I have accepted your proposal. So, Mrs. DTR, let's get to consummating...you are on notice.

"All praise Chiefus."

by DThomasReigns on Oct 25, 2009 8:15 PM CDT up reply actions

Obi wan is a dirty old man

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84PZcfP8GMU

Before you judge a man, walk a mile in his shoes; after that, who cares?! He's a mile away and you've got his shoes!

by SuperTurtle on Oct 25, 2009 8:21 PM CDT up reply actions

Come on Eli...

throw it to Mario

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by averagegatsby on Oct 25, 2009 8:17 PM CDT reply actions

+1000000000000000

I have them both on my FF team

I ♥ Dick Vermeil

by craig in calgary on Oct 25, 2009 8:31 PM CDT up reply actions

I have a combination of one or both on all of my teams

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by averagegatsby on Oct 25, 2009 8:34 PM CDT up reply actions

I really want an Audi

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by averagegatsby on Oct 25, 2009 8:34 PM CDT reply actions

specifically an A6

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by averagegatsby on Oct 25, 2009 8:34 PM CDT up reply actions

No way

R8

I ♥ Dick Vermeil

by craig in calgary on Oct 25, 2009 8:35 PM CDT up reply actions

I ♥ Dick Vermeil

by craig in calgary on Oct 25, 2009 8:36 PM CDT up reply actions

I saw one of those out side of a subway in a small city in Germany

They look just as awesome in person.

Of course the difference is I could conceivable own an A6, not so sure on an R8

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by averagegatsby on Oct 25, 2009 8:41 PM CDT up reply actions

True

I think they go for about $225K

I ♥ Dick Vermeil

by craig in calgary on Oct 25, 2009 8:43 PM CDT up reply actions

they are a fantastic car though...

A real budget car as far as super cars go too.

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by averagegatsby on Oct 25, 2009 8:44 PM CDT up reply actions

also they are developing a TDI version...

so not only will it be balls out fast, it will be fuel efficient too.

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by averagegatsby on Oct 25, 2009 8:45 PM CDT up reply actions

I saw tranpotter 3 over the weekend

I concur. Transporter 2 and 3 are great movies if you are an audi fan

I ♥ Dick Vermeil

by craig in calgary on Oct 25, 2009 8:35 PM CDT up reply actions

Has nyone seen the genious of insanity wolf?

This is one I made

Before you judge a man, walk a mile in his shoes; after that, who cares?! He's a mile away and you've got his shoes!

by SuperTurtle on Oct 25, 2009 8:37 PM CDT reply actions

yeah there was an awesome blog post somewhere

comparing who was more insane Insanity Wolf or Royals management

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by averagegatsby on Oct 25, 2009 8:42 PM CDT up reply actions

Thats how i found out about it

Before you judge a man, walk a mile in his shoes; after that, who cares?! He's a mile away and you've got his shoes!

by SuperTurtle on Oct 25, 2009 8:45 PM CDT up reply actions

http://firedayton.blogspot.com/2009/10/lets-have-duel-insanity-wolf-vs-dayton.html

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by averagegatsby on Oct 25, 2009 8:42 PM CDT up reply actions

Well that was horseshit luck

I ♥ Dick Vermeil

by craig in calgary on Oct 25, 2009 8:48 PM CDT reply actions

Id rather be lucky than good any day...

of Course I would like the Chiefs to be either at this point.

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by averagegatsby on Oct 25, 2009 8:49 PM CDT up reply actions

Well that was unexpected

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by averagegatsby on Oct 25, 2009 8:48 PM CDT reply actions

Its ridiculous that Eli will get credit for a TD pass on that one.

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by averagegatsby on Oct 25, 2009 8:49 PM CDT reply actions

I'll take it :)

I ♥ Dick Vermeil

by craig in calgary on Oct 25, 2009 8:51 PM CDT up reply actions

What's up fellas?

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by Patrick Allen on Oct 25, 2009 8:50 PM CDT reply actions

Me so sad

:(

I ♥ Dick Vermeil

by craig in calgary on Oct 25, 2009 8:50 PM CDT up reply actions

eh

Who cares? A loss is a loss. Doesn’t matter how much it was by.

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by Patrick Allen on Oct 25, 2009 8:52 PM CDT up reply actions

This game is not in consonance with my fantasy wishes.

Erykah Badu, I have accepted your proposal. So, Mrs. DTR, let's get to consummating...you are on notice.

"All praise Chiefus."

by DThomasReigns on Oct 25, 2009 8:52 PM CDT reply actions

Yah

I wish I wouldn’t have drafted freaking Matt Forte.

Terrible.

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by Patrick Allen on Oct 25, 2009 8:53 PM CDT up reply actions

Bi-week killed me

I had LJ starting for MJD.
Fail.

I ♥ Dick Vermeil

by craig in calgary on Oct 25, 2009 8:54 PM CDT up reply actions

I rarely drafted a RB in the first round this year.

Next year, I will not draft a single one unless it is Adrian Peterson. The committee approach has taken over and even starters are completely unpredictable.

Erykah Badu, I have accepted your proposal. So, Mrs. DTR, let's get to consummating...you are on notice.

"All praise Chiefus."

by DThomasReigns on Oct 25, 2009 9:04 PM CDT up reply actions

Im really kicking myself for not taking Benson in any of my leagues...

because I thought he would be really good value for being a 7th round running back.

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by averagegatsby on Oct 25, 2009 9:05 PM CDT up reply actions

I have Benson in a lot of my leagues, but

it has taken me a long time to actually start him.

BUT I STARTED HIM TODAY, BITCHES!*

*that is directed to those in the AP FleaFlicker league.

Erykah Badu, I have accepted your proposal. So, Mrs. DTR, let's get to consummating...you are on notice.

"All praise Chiefus."

by DThomasReigns on Oct 25, 2009 9:11 PM CDT up reply actions

Im in one of the AP leagues, not sure who else is in it

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by averagegatsby on Oct 25, 2009 9:12 PM CDT up reply actions

but my Royals Review legue has been Epic thusfar

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by averagegatsby on Oct 25, 2009 9:12 PM CDT up reply actions

Who is George Washington?

I ♥ Dick Vermeil

by craig in calgary on Oct 25, 2009 8:53 PM CDT up reply actions

One of Ben Franklin's entourage

He hit the fatty’s while Ben took home the scratch.

Erykah Badu, I have accepted your proposal. So, Mrs. DTR, let's get to consummating...you are on notice.

"All praise Chiefus."

by DThomasReigns on Oct 25, 2009 8:54 PM CDT up reply actions

*fatties

Pluralization FAIL.

Erykah Badu, I have accepted your proposal. So, Mrs. DTR, let's get to consummating...you are on notice.

"All praise Chiefus."

by DThomasReigns on Oct 25, 2009 8:56 PM CDT up reply actions

I see everyone is ready to tar and feather Haley

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by Patrick Allen on Oct 25, 2009 8:54 PM CDT reply actions

Thats putting it lightly.

I ♥ Dick Vermeil

by craig in calgary on Oct 25, 2009 8:55 PM CDT up reply actions

I undersstand the guy isn't perfect

but I don’t understand how everyone suddenly thinks he is garbage. We have shitty players. We just simply still have too many shitty players because Herm unloaded the entire team.

Seriously. They can’t get a freaking yard. That isn’t a play call. That is just poor play. Again, I’m not saying he is free from blame but this is year one of a rebuild with a bunch of crappy players.

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by Patrick Allen on Oct 25, 2009 9:00 PM CDT up reply actions

I dont think Haley is as bad as Clancy...

I didnt like that signing when it happened.

by darwithabar on Oct 25, 2009 9:01 PM CDT up reply actions

I just don't get the "Haley is a bad play caller" thing

He is a good play caller. We know this. He had talent in Arizona and his plays worked fine. In fact, his plays worked really well against the Steelers and their sick D in the SB.

Now he has a crap team and we are surprised the plays aren’t working out? When the players fail to execute it is easy to point fingers and say it was a bad call.

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by Patrick Allen on Oct 25, 2009 9:04 PM CDT up reply actions

To be honest,

the LJ draws up the middle have been ridiculous all season. i wouldn’t mind if they were to Charles, but they have not worked but he won’t stop calling them.

Erykah Badu, I have accepted your proposal. So, Mrs. DTR, let's get to consummating...you are on notice.

"All praise Chiefus."

by DThomasReigns on Oct 25, 2009 9:05 PM CDT up reply actions

Its really starting to wear me down...

that people can’t separate this season from last season.

Its almost like people are blaming Pioli and Haley for the mistakes of Carl and Herm

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by averagegatsby on Oct 25, 2009 9:02 PM CDT up reply actions

Im not done with him.

The team is only marginally worse than I expected.

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by averagegatsby on Oct 25, 2009 8:59 PM CDT up reply actions

Yep with

no more talent than what we currently have, its really hard to question the play-calling. If we execute correctly maybe things work. Who can really know until we upgrade in several areas.

by ttownmikey on Oct 25, 2009 9:02 PM CDT up reply actions

I could do with less Shotgun draws...

although they were far more effective this game than they have been… Which really isn’t saying much. Its pretty pathetic that we couldn’t run the ball any better against the Chargers.

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by averagegatsby on Oct 25, 2009 9:03 PM CDT up reply actions

I was a little mystified

when Rudy went down & they moved Wade to center & brought Richardson in at LT. Are Alleman &/or Ndukwe going to fill in of the holes on the line? I was expecting them to help out but they’ve both disappeared.

by ttownmikey on Oct 25, 2009 9:06 PM CDT up reply actions

our O-Line is pretty pathetic

Waters will be back and Albert will be played somewhere, but im not sure anyone else will be brought back. O’Callahan maybe but the house cleaning after this season could look a lot like the house cleaning before this season.

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by averagegatsby on Oct 25, 2009 9:10 PM CDT up reply actions

As long as the cleaning involves acquiring functioning replacements, I agree.

Erykah Badu, I have accepted your proposal. So, Mrs. DTR, let's get to consummating...you are on notice.

"All praise Chiefus."

by DThomasReigns on Oct 25, 2009 9:12 PM CDT up reply actions

the more I think about it the more I respect Pioli...

its not like he was able to watch the Chiefs suck every week last week. I think from this point on he will have a much better idea where the problem areas are. Not that he probably didn’t watch a lot of game film, but its not like he had a lot of time by the time most of the FA’s were gone and time to really scout the problem ares for the draft.

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by averagegatsby on Oct 25, 2009 9:14 PM CDT up reply actions

and Pioli had to use Herm/Carl's scouts for the draft this year...not his own.

Erykah Badu, I have accepted your proposal. So, Mrs. DTR, let's get to consummating...you are on notice.

"All praise Chiefus."

by DThomasReigns on Oct 25, 2009 9:22 PM CDT up reply actions

it would explain why his draft has bee pretty Meh this year

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by averagegatsby on Oct 25, 2009 9:24 PM CDT up reply actions

Yessir,

worked over the core of the D this year, because it tales them a little longer to adjust, then we’ll work on the O-line next year. From there we work on play-makers & upgrading the pieces as they age.

by ttownmikey on Oct 25, 2009 9:12 PM CDT up reply actions

I really hope Tyson Jackson starts to show a little life...

I still maintain that if he is doing his job correctly that the average fan would never know. But one of the telltale signs of him doing his job is LB’s actually getting through the line on a blitz.

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by averagegatsby on Oct 25, 2009 9:15 PM CDT up reply actions

He's still getting

man-handled quite a bit but that is all part of the learning experience on his learning to use his hands & learn a different set of skills then the size advantage he has always been used to. I think he will progress in much the same learning curve that Dorsey has & that we will be very solid up front once they get an immovable object between them.

by ttownmikey on Oct 25, 2009 9:24 PM CDT up reply actions

yeah...

It pisses me off that people have zero patience. And that its very rare for Defensive lineman to excel in their first year… Especially in the 3-4.

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by averagegatsby on Oct 25, 2009 9:26 PM CDT up reply actions

Miles Austen is starting to look very legit

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by averagegatsby on Oct 25, 2009 9:05 PM CDT reply actions

I feel less horrible about his game against us now.

But, damn, he looked like a beast today.

Erykah Badu, I have accepted your proposal. So, Mrs. DTR, let's get to consummating...you are on notice.

"All praise Chiefus."

by DThomasReigns on Oct 25, 2009 9:06 PM CDT up reply actions

I hate the draws too

but watch the opposing defenses. They have 8 up at the line almost every play. Teams know that we can’t burn them deep and they know we can’t protect the QB.

So if you are an opposing D, all you have to do is throw 8 men up at the line and tell your players, “if he drops back, go get him. If h hands it off, don’t worry, they can’t block you.”

That is why Haley runs so many draws and screens. He is trying to beat the arrogantly aggressive defenses. They are aggressive because there is no fear that we can beat them and make them pay for it. When we run a screen the receiver blocking is terrible.

That is what is driving me nuts when people bitch about Haley’s play calling.

It doesn’t matter. It really doesn’t matter what he calls. It will nearly always fail. Cassel drops back? 9 times out of 10 he is sacked or hurried or hit. Call a run up the middle? Nope. 8 men in the box. Run to the outside, no way, too many men up front, receivers don’t block well. Throw it deep? Sure, once in a while and if the receiver does get open, Cassel sometimes misses them.

When Cassel makes a bad throw it is magnified a million times because he so rarely gts to string anything together. He has to be perfect every time he gets a chance to do something because it could be another 5 series before he gets a chance again.

This tea has to play perfect or the other team has to be terrible (Redskins) to win. With no one up front and no deep threat and players missing blocks, dropping balls and being fuck ups in general, no plays are going to work, no matter what they are or who calls them.

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by Patrick Allen on Oct 25, 2009 9:16 PM CDT reply actions

PLUS ELEVENTY BILLION!!!

very well put. I hadn’t really thought of it like that, but it is 100% true. Really the only thing he could possibly do is just to spread it out and throw it out of the Shotgun.

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by averagegatsby on Oct 25, 2009 9:20 PM CDT up reply actions

Right

and he wants to run a pro style offense. They are installing an offense and trying to stick with it. It isn’t easy but their jobs aren’t really on the line yet. They are new.

Herm went to the Arrowspread cause he knew it was his ass. Haley is going at least get next year.

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by Patrick Allen on Oct 25, 2009 9:22 PM CDT up reply actions

I totally agree

its an attempt to slow the rush &/or pop one open but out line blocks like its a screen on every play & the defense is past them before LJ even gets the ball. All Cassel can do is try to get some hang time on his passes & guess where the receiver will be because he has to throw it long before they can get free. Like you said there is no chance to get any kind of a rhythm going because they have no time. The only time that they seem to get to clicking is when they are in the hurry-up & we don’t have the talent to maintain that kind of an offense for sustained periods.

by ttownmikey on Oct 25, 2009 9:21 PM CDT up reply actions

And I am not saying Haley is perfect

and that he shouldn’t improve. But this whole “he is in over his head” stuff I don’t buy. I do not think things would be better with Chan. Haley wouldn’t let Chan go to the Arrowspread because they are trying to build a system and they aren’t going to play college ball.

Chan would be trying to call the same style of offense as Haley and he would be failing at it. I guarantee it.

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by Patrick Allen on Oct 25, 2009 9:24 PM CDT up reply actions

yeah...

Haley really is in the situation of taking a pocket knife to a hand grenade fight

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by averagegatsby on Oct 25, 2009 9:25 PM CDT up reply actions

Lining up in the shotgun is not "College ball"

Noone calls Arizona’s or NE’s offences gimmicks. Utilizing strengths (or moreso hiding weaknesses) should be what the headcoach is responsible for…regardless of your thought of what kind of offense they are running. Shit, if the triple option worked, I’d say run it.

I ♥ Dick Vermeil

by craig in calgary on Oct 25, 2009 9:32 PM CDT up reply actions

They mentioned on SNL

That Wissenhunt wants to run the ball, but Arizona is built to throw the ball downfield and doesnt run it effectively. Instead of trying to shove a square peg in the round hole, he runs offenses out of the shotgun to utilize their strength

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by craig in calgary on Oct 25, 2009 9:34 PM CDT up reply actions

Oops

SNF, not SNL.

I ♥ Dick Vermeil

by craig in calgary on Oct 25, 2009 9:34 PM CDT up reply actions

I disagree but kinda agree

Haley rarely tries to throw down field to back people off, even if it is only a bluff.

He did it twice in a row today in the 2nd half and I was ecstatic (and the players were open both times).

Keeping the D honest is a rather basic tenant of offensive game plan strategy, but it only appeared in the 2nd half of a game in Week 7.

It’s not about that we can throw the bomb, it’s the threat that we might. The film on the Chiefs offensive for the entire season so far proves that we won’t even test it.

Erykah Badu, I have accepted your proposal. So, Mrs. DTR, let's get to consummating...you are on notice.

"All praise Chiefus."

by DThomasReigns on Oct 25, 2009 9:26 PM CDT up reply actions

yeah but the o-line needs to occassionally pick up a blitz

rarely does Cassel have time to wait for anything long to develop. And Im not sure there is enough raw speed on this team to just be able to recklessly air it out.

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by averagegatsby on Oct 25, 2009 9:28 PM CDT up reply actions

I absolutely agree

But a quick 3 step drop and throwing downfield (even out of bounds) to a WR on a go route at least makes the other team think twice, regardless of the fact it had no real hope for a completion. It is a tried and true strategy when the defense doesn’t respect your offense.

The draws have not worked at all, continuing them makes no sense. The reason for calling them may be somewhat justified, but not in the numbers they have been called and in their percentage of failing.

Backing off the defense, even as a bluff, occasionally would do far more to give the opposing DC pause than the miniscule chance that LJ might get 7 yards on a draw.

Erykah Badu, I have accepted your proposal. So, Mrs. DTR, let's get to consummating...you are on notice.

"All praise Chiefus."

by DThomasReigns on Oct 25, 2009 9:32 PM CDT up reply actions

very true...

I think Haley is just scared of killing Cassel any worse than he has been lit up so far… Especially since he has probably been holding the ball a little too long anyway.

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by averagegatsby on Oct 25, 2009 9:34 PM CDT up reply actions

It is not that I disagree with the draw as a tactic in that situation

It is that Haley is calling draws to LJ an inordinate amount of time. We even bitched about how many LJ draws were called during Week 1. It has continued every single week.

The other teams have film on this. The see what we are doing. My biggest issue is that it didn’t work in Week 1, we continue it, it fails, the film on it grows, we continue it, it continues to fail.

That is a play calling issue (just making a statement, not direct at you, Gatsby nor Paddy).

Erykah Badu, I have accepted your proposal. So, Mrs. DTR, let's get to consummating...you are on notice.

"All praise Chiefus."

by DThomasReigns on Oct 25, 2009 9:39 PM CDT up reply actions