Chiefs Get Blown Out at Home by the Chargers
by Chris Thorman on Oct 25, 2009 3:07 PM CDT
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This was easily the worst Kansas City Chiefs performance of the year. The Chargers dominated in every aspect of the game.
Philip Rivers was 18/30 for 268 yards and three touchdowns. The Chiefs gave up three big pass plays in the game, making me wonder what the heck happened to our secondary this week.
Here are a few thoughts on the game, which I'll be updating. Joel is in the locker room as we speak.
The Good
- Dwayne Bowe made up for an inexcusable drop in the third quarter with an amazing TD catch on the sideline of the end zone.
- 121 yards rushing is a good performance for this team right now.
The Bad
- Jamaal Charles completely whiffed on blocking Jacob Hester on a Chiefs punt in the fourth quarter, resulting in a blocked punt/TD for Hester.
- Dwayne Bowe still dropping passes.
The Ugly
- Matt Cassel threw three picks and two of them were clearly the result of bad passes.
- The Chiefs were 3/15 on third down.
- We only had 82 yards passing.
Give us your thoughts in the comments.
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When do you think we will be good again?
Bowe and Wade FTW.
When you fail to prepare, you prepare to fail.
Not this year that's for sure
We can easily turn this around into a decent time by next season.
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by Chris Thorman on Oct 25, 2009 3:10 PM CDT up reply actions
A few serious player acquisitions
and one serious coaching staff overhaul and I think we can be decent.
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When hell freezes over, which will never happen because of global warming!
by BCRavenJHawkfan on Oct 25, 2009 3:13 PM CDT up reply actions
splain Lucy
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The question was, when will we be good again.
My answer translation = never.
by BCRavenJHawkfan on Oct 25, 2009 3:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Lol
sure we will. I’ll hit the panic button in the off-season when we don’t hire a new OC and DC and we don’t address the major roster holes starting with the biggest needs first.
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Oh, I know we will improve sooner or later.
But honestly this does not even resemble pro football right now.
by BCRavenJHawkfan on Oct 25, 2009 3:20 PM CDT up reply actions
It is so unbelievably bad
we started this entire year late. put us behind the 8-ball. We will stink all year and I think we will be better next year. If we end up1-15 or 2-14 I will be pretty pissed. Sure the pressure is off this year, but the goal is to show improvement and thus far we haven’t done that.
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oh hell yeah
We need to commit to a system and a group of players first. We haven’t seen anything close to that.
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happy birthday sexassassin your chiefs just got their asses pounded harder than a hooker in tijuanna
FOUR F'S FIND UM FEEL UM FUGUM FORGET UM.
easy…we get everyones castoffs….its called a lack of talent….the front office wont spend money on DECENT players
by CHIEFS_FAN_ENGLAND on Oct 25, 2009 3:12 PM CDT reply actions
We need too many decent players
I think they will if they can find someone worth a crap who isn’t serously hurt or asking way too much money. We have so many holes to fill we cant spend on just one person
I will stand by my statement. Cassel is the least problem on the offense.
Surround him with an o-line that can block. Let him adjust to having time in the pocket. He will be okay.
Yr Team G GS Comp Att Pct Yds Avg per attempt Avg per game TD Int
2009 Kansas City Chiefs 6 6 102 186 54.84% 994 5.344086022 165.6666667 8 5
2008 Kansas City Chiefs 10 10 192 330 58.18% 2216 6.715151515 221.6 16 8
Predictions for 2009:
LJ runs for 1800 yards
Bowe in the pro bowl
Chiefs D finishes in the top 10 in points allowed
Chiefs 10-6
by bonesjackson on Oct 25, 2009 3:12 PM CDT up reply actions
Format that shit better
I cant understand it at all
Before you judge a man, walk a mile in his shoes; after that, who cares?! He's a mile away and you've got his shoes!
Yr Team G GS Comp Att Pct Yds Avg per attempt Avg per game TD Int
2009 Kansas City Chiefs 6 6 102 186 54.84% 994 5.344086022 165.6666667 8 5
2008 Kansas City Chiefs 10 10 192 330 58.18% 2216 6.715151515 221.6 16 8
Predictions for 2009:
LJ runs for 1800 yards
Bowe in the pro bowl
Chiefs D finishes in the top 10 in points allowed
Chiefs 10-6
by bonesjackson on Oct 25, 2009 3:16 PM CDT up reply actions
It isnt taking
Bottom Line….. We didn’t upgrade our QB with a 2nd round pick and $63 million
Predictions for 2009:
LJ runs for 1800 yards
Bowe in the pro bowl
Chiefs D finishes in the top 10 in points allowed
Chiefs 10-6
by bonesjackson on Oct 25, 2009 3:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Oh ok
Seriously cannot understand that at all the numbers are bunched in too much
Before you judge a man, walk a mile in his shoes; after that, who cares?! He's a mile away and you've got his shoes!
I put spaces in
But AP removes them
Predictions for 2009:
LJ runs for 1800 yards
Bowe in the pro bowl
Chiefs D finishes in the top 10 in points allowed
Chiefs 10-6
by bonesjackson on Oct 25, 2009 3:19 PM CDT up reply actions
In A Related Matter...
I had to read this three times to figure out what you were saying given that your two separate statements are mashed together without the necessary punctuation.
/publicserviceannouncement
by mynameistyler on Oct 25, 2009 3:20 PM CDT up reply actions
What does it matter what he makes...
only 28 million of it is guaranteed and the Chiefs are still under the minimum, the money has to go somewhere.
Desperately hoping for Desperate Measures
by averagegatsby on Oct 25, 2009 3:19 PM CDT up reply actions
It matters because
he is our QB for the next 3 years
Predictions for 2009:
LJ runs for 1800 yards
Bowe in the pro bowl
Chiefs D finishes in the top 10 in points allowed
Chiefs 10-6
by bonesjackson on Oct 25, 2009 3:20 PM CDT up reply actions
So...
if he is cut and we sign someone else, we will still have cap room.
Desperately hoping for Desperate Measures
by averagegatsby on Oct 25, 2009 3:21 PM CDT up reply actions
Too hard on Cassel. His salary isn't very high compared across the league.
He has promise but HE NEEDS TOOLS TO SUCCEED. No line, no running back, no receivers. Those interceptions were a sign to me he was trying to do too much, not that he’s a bad QB and is just throwing INT’s because he’s bad.
Thats what Im saying
2 of them I dont think were even his fault, one was tipped and Wade turned in and Cassel through out, so its very possible that pick was on Wade
Desperately hoping for Desperate Measures
by averagegatsby on Oct 25, 2009 3:36 PM CDT up reply actions
Bottom line
you’re comparing 6 games this year with 10 games last year. Why?
Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend. Inside of a dog it's too dark to read. - Groucho Marx
Using what is available.
Predictions for 2009:
LJ runs for 1800 yards
Bowe in the pro bowl
Chiefs D finishes in the top 10 in points allowed
Chiefs 10-6
by bonesjackson on Oct 25, 2009 3:39 PM CDT up reply actions
I just don't see where it's relevant then.
Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend. Inside of a dog it's too dark to read. - Groucho Marx
It is much more relevant
than the people that say that Cassel won 11 games last year
Predictions for 2009:
LJ runs for 1800 yards
Bowe in the pro bowl
Chiefs D finishes in the top 10 in points allowed
Chiefs 10-6
by bonesjackson on Oct 25, 2009 4:02 PM CDT up reply actions
It was bound to be a rough year for him
and Haley.
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+1
I know that you're afraid... you're afraid of us. You're afraid of change. I don't know the future. I didn't come here to tell you how this is going to end. I came here to tell you how it's going to begin.
'09, a new era begins in Kansas City.
I hope that's it
He seems to throw scared when he has time, which results in bad throws and when he does get a good throw, it’s dropped by the receiver. I really would like to see him have some time in the pocket, just to see…
by Spiderwomn69 on Oct 25, 2009 4:55 PM CDT up reply actions
Well the Chiefs
were absolutely horrid for most of the 70’s and ALL of the 80’s, then they had about 12-13 yeras of being pretty good, making several post-season appearances. Now…it appears that we are going to be in another 10-15 year drought and this team will be the laughing stock of the NFL for many seasons to come.
I lived in Denver...
for 12 years before joining the military, now I’m in San Diego, but I grew up in KC…so I guess I could be a Broncos or Chargers fan if I wanted to…but I don’t think I could ever do it without hating myself for the rest of my life.
by 5280ChiefsFan on Oct 25, 2009 3:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Don't be rediculous.
Cassel is an ex Patroit. Brodie never played for the patriots. He doesn’t know the Patroit way. Matt is a great OB. Stupid receivers drop his passes. He doesn’t have enough time. He has a strong arm. He just has the wrong 52 around him. All he needs is the right 52. Cassel gives us the best chance to win.
by choirboy on Oct 25, 2009 3:40 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Give me a break
It’s been so long since Cassel has had a ball in his hands it’s hard for him to part with it, I rewinded a lot of plays where he took a sack and he had enough time to make a few reads and get the ball away. Then Cassel fell apart with the rest of the team. Get his bust ready for the hall of fame……….
by mcclanahanman on Oct 25, 2009 3:49 PM CDT up reply actions
brutal game...
glimpses of hope?
Great goal-line stands by the defense all day
Mays is a STUD in short yardage and stopping the run.
O’Callaghan played well, as did Barry Richardson, i think… Wade Smith wasn’t good at C, and Goff was terrible as usual
Turnovers hurt… a LOT…. as do big plays allowed by the passing defense
Charles looked good on KRs and on offense… and LJ ran hard when he had a chance.
Bowe’s catch was awesome, Wade had a couple good ones, and Long looks like he can really play.
* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season
Glad to see some optimism
Bowe and Wade FTW.
When you fail to prepare, you prepare to fail.
by NJChieffan16 on Oct 25, 2009 3:17 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm good for something...
I have been trying to keep my expectations low on the Chiefs this year… so I’m not too shattered when they lose.
If you watch the game without being blinded by rage, you’ll see that they DID make some plays… just not nearly enough of them :)
* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season
glimpses of hope?
The entire team was garbage today, period. I can understand trying to shine some light on an awful performance, but lets be realistic here. The entire team is to blame, including the coaching staff.
by 5280ChiefsFan on Oct 25, 2009 3:20 PM CDT up reply actions
Why Oh Why
did we not see Alleman in at Center?
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Too many f*ckin' knee jerk reactions
Are you people surprised??? Get real. This is gonna take SO MUCH more time.
I know that you're afraid... you're afraid of us. You're afraid of change. I don't know the future. I didn't come here to tell you how this is going to end. I came here to tell you how it's going to begin.
'09, a new era begins in Kansas City.
To Todd Haley
I see you took a page off of Jim Zorn “Play calling for Dummies with losing record”
How da F%%$ do u not see that SD was blitzing with their DBs and yet you spread the TE’s wide instead of staying home to block?
Knowing that the 5 f%@$$#ing O-line men can’t block 4 D-line men, you spread the offense more when SD is blitzing?
Why would you not insert Croyle when you see Cassel losing confidence?
How can you spread 5 wide and Cassel has no open receivers when SD blitz? Someone has to be open and it seem to be Sean “slippery hands” Cassel chooses to toss the ball to each time?
Predictions as of 06.24.2009.
Larry Johnson will be a top 3 fantasy pick once again in 2010 (after a monster season in 2009.)
Dwayne Bowe will be a 2009 Pro Bowl selection.
Brandon Flowers will have at least 6 INTs in 2009 season.
Todd Haley will have a sideline shouting match caught on TV yelling at one of his asst. coaches.
by 58 was my friend on Oct 25, 2009 3:15 PM CDT reply actions
to be fair...
it wouldn’t help to have Ryan in blocking when they blitz a DB… he’s worthless in pass blocking
the O-Linemen did a good job on the D-linemen… but the LB and DBs came sailing through
and you don’t just bench your QB when he struggles… he’s gotta fight through it and be better for it
* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season
by stagdsp on Oct 25, 2009 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Not like our TEs can block anyway.
Damned if you do, damned if you don’t.
by SupremeChief on Oct 25, 2009 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions
Matthews has to be a Chief this week
Use Pope as the receiver, matthews as the blocker… cut Ryan?
* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season
It's a huge problem
we’ve been harping on it all year. They better get this right and soon.
Braccae illae virides cum subucula rosea et tunica Caledonia-quam elenganter concinnatur!
Yeah -Ryan is my scapegoat today
He’s allowed the most sacks, and I don’t think most of them were because Cassel held on to the ball. He tried to give away an INT today and he can’t run block. I gotta think Haley makes a move there.
Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend. Inside of a dog it's too dark to read. - Groucho Marx
Ryan was supposedly more of a blocking TE but told Kent Babb they want him to catch more than block
Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisiton!
He has been a fair in the receiving game
I just wonder where the blocking has been.
Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend. Inside of a dog it's too dark to read. - Groucho Marx
I wonder if the Chiefs practice screen passes in training? I`m guessing not
by CHIEFS_FAN_ENGLAND on Oct 25, 2009 3:17 PM CDT reply actions
Seriously.
I know that you're afraid... you're afraid of us. You're afraid of change. I don't know the future. I didn't come here to tell you how this is going to end. I came here to tell you how it's going to begin.
'09, a new era begins in Kansas City.
I wonder if they do anything
at all in practice.
by 5280ChiefsFan on Oct 25, 2009 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions
singing in the rain
would be my guess.
by 5280ChiefsFan on Oct 25, 2009 3:21 PM CDT up reply actions
Its actually humourous to me watching the chiefs defend a screen pass
They just look like a bunch of retards bumrushing the qb
Before you judge a man, walk a mile in his shoes; after that, who cares?! He's a mile away and you've got his shoes!
Wher I live I only got to see some 1st half highlights.
SD’s second TD was like watching statues on defense.
by BCRavenJHawkfan on Oct 25, 2009 3:23 PM CDT up reply actions
yep to many knee jerking reactions….we`ve only sucked for the last 15 years or so and counting….
by CHIEFS_FAN_ENGLAND on Oct 25, 2009 3:18 PM CDT reply actions
I don't understand...
How we play so good the last two weeks and shit all over ourselves this week…What the hell?
we wet the bed today
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Beyond wetting the bed
They flat out shit in thier britches.
by BCRavenJHawkfan on Oct 25, 2009 3:25 PM CDT up reply actions
we didn't score a TD in our win last week
so saying we were playing good is a bit of an overstatement.
It ain't good
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Now i get to watch atlanta joy to me
Before you judge a man, walk a mile in his shoes; after that, who cares?! He's a mile away and you've got his shoes!
Although I dont blame Hayley…he needs time….its not his fault we suck this bad!!! Its 15 years of bringing in flops and not upgrading….its now run its course and we are unfortunatley a joke right now
by CHIEFS_FAN_ENGLAND on Oct 25, 2009 3:19 PM CDT reply actions
Haley cannot be blamed for 3/4 of our problems right now.
We hired him to coach, not to walk on water and do miracles. And at this point, this is what this team needs.
He has time to get the team ready to play
At least he would have time if he wasnt the OC and QB coach
Predictions for 2009:
LJ runs for 1800 yards
Bowe in the pro bowl
Chiefs D finishes in the top 10 in points allowed
Chiefs 10-6
by bonesjackson on Oct 25, 2009 3:21 PM CDT up reply actions
absolutely
It’s a terrible arrangement and he’s not coping well with it.
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The thing I hope most for Haley
is that he eats his humble pie and learns something about humility. He needs a strong dose of it. If he takes his lumps and comes back next year, he’ll be much better off for it.
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My Chiefs stuff will gather more dust i guess
Bowe and Wade FTW.
When you fail to prepare, you prepare to fail.
Haley SUCKS!!!
Any coach that can’t beat division opponents is very bad sign. I don’t care how bad the talent pool may be when you can’t get your guys riled up for a division rival, you SUCK!
Losing to OAK at home? and now getting BLOWN OUT by Chargers at home?
even during the shittier days of OAK, with Vermeils potent offense, OAK would come into Arrowhead and put up a fight despite a shitty team.
This freaking Haley squad is laying down from the get go. I am so used to see 3 and outs from this piece of pathetic team.
Herm Edwards was bad but his squad showed up each time KC played a AFC West foe. WTF is this Haley????
oh and for Pioli – great to see you thought you found a wes welker with lance long – OOPS until he got whacked by a :LB and so much for a FIND….
Predictions as of 06.24.2009.
Larry Johnson will be a top 3 fantasy pick once again in 2010 (after a monster season in 2009.)
Dwayne Bowe will be a 2009 Pro Bowl selection.
Brandon Flowers will have at least 6 INTs in 2009 season.
Todd Haley will have a sideline shouting match caught on TV yelling at one of his asst. coaches.
by 58 was my friend on Oct 25, 2009 3:20 PM CDT reply actions
Weis and Crennel need to be our coordinators next year. that would be sweet.
then we need to draft O-line, TE, strong safety. If we can pick up an interior lineman in free agency it will go a long way.
Weis wont be available
and i can’t see Haley bringing in an OC to undermine him
Desperately hoping for Desperate Measures
by averagegatsby on Oct 25, 2009 3:24 PM CDT up reply actions
Correction. . .
Haley needs to be our OC, Crennel our DC and Cowher or Holmgren as HC. Haley is not ready for this. His team is never prepared to play the game. Yes this isn’t a good team but you can see that they aren’t prepared. They don’t know their assignments, they don’t know the plays, hell I doubt they know what Haley even wants from them.
by Chiefsfan_in_the_MileHigh on Oct 25, 2009 3:27 PM CDT up reply actions
This team has very suspect talent
I will give him a pass for this year.
Desperately hoping for Desperate Measures
by averagegatsby on Oct 25, 2009 3:31 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm sorry but. . .
What made most of you jump on the Haley bandwagon? This guy hasn’t done anything special here and he didn’t do anything special in Arizona. He was the OC for a team that already had great talent by the time he got there and actually played second fiddle to Russ Grimm the first year he was there. Sure Haley can call good plays for great players but what qualified him to run an entire team. And instead of being a responsible HC and letting his assistants help him and allow him to focus on game playing he fires the OC and QB coach. Really smart guy we got!!!!!!!
by Chiefsfan_in_the_MileHigh on Oct 25, 2009 3:46 PM CDT up reply actions
Every head coach has to get their first shot
Andy Reid did the same thing his first year as head coach.
Desperately hoping for Desperate Measures
by averagegatsby on Oct 25, 2009 3:48 PM CDT up reply actions
even Belichick was horrible his first time as head coach
kinda looking like Haley might be the same way
Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisiton!
Neither were horrible. .
Belichick was 6-10 in Cleveland and Reid 5-11
by Chiefsfan_in_the_MileHigh on Oct 25, 2009 4:00 PM CDT up reply actions
I doubt
this team is gonna sniff 5 wins
by Chiefsfan_in_the_MileHigh on Oct 25, 2009 4:01 PM CDT up reply actions
This season is our intervention.
We have officially hit rock bottom. It’s time to go to rehab. I say yes, yes, yes.
+1 not just that
Herms shitty squad AT LEAST showed up when facing a AFC West foe
Predictions as of 06.24.2009.
Larry Johnson will be a top 3 fantasy pick once again in 2010 (after a monster season in 2009.)
Dwayne Bowe will be a 2009 Pro Bowl selection.
Brandon Flowers will have at least 6 INTs in 2009 season.
Todd Haley will have a sideline shouting match caught on TV yelling at one of his asst. coaches.
by 58 was my friend on Oct 25, 2009 3:23 PM CDT up reply actions
Sorry, that Buffalo game last year was one of the worst games I've ever seen
Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend. Inside of a dog it's too dark to read. - Groucho Marx
dont forget the Carolina game last year
Desperately hoping for Desperate Measures
by averagegatsby on Oct 25, 2009 3:31 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, but Carolina was supposed to be good when they humiliated us
Buffalo was supposed to be a team that we could take.
Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend. Inside of a dog it's too dark to read. - Groucho Marx
if I remember correctly
that Buffalo game was really flukey, there really is no excuse to ever get shut out
Desperately hoping for Desperate Measures
by averagegatsby on Oct 25, 2009 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions
That's true, I was ready for it though, after the Atlanta game
They were starting to turn it around before the Buffalo game and then they humiliated us at home.
Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend. Inside of a dog it's too dark to read. - Groucho Marx
We should have stuck with the mobile QB this year
Thigpen could atleast make plays with his feet. When the pocket colapsed he could run and make plays. Cassel has to usually take a sack or throw an INT. Should not have brought in the Franchise QB in this situation….should have waited and either drafted a good one to take over or traded like we did with Cassel….
This is not good for Cassel’s confidence or his body….not good for the team.
"Its going to be a challenge, its going to feel like forever, and there will be difficulties. But we will emerge on the other side of it stronger than we were when we entered." ~ Sudden
Cassel is plenty mobile
looked good on the roll outs and gained yardage on scrambles.
thigpen couldn’t have done any better
* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season
Your outta your mind...
Thigpen would out scramble and rush Cassel any day of the week….by far!
"Its going to be a challenge, its going to feel like forever, and there will be difficulties. But we will emerge on the other side of it stronger than we were when we entered." ~ Sudden
Im not sure if you noticed...
but Cassel has won more games as a Chief than Thigpen did.
Desperately hoping for Desperate Measures
by averagegatsby on Oct 25, 2009 3:25 PM CDT up reply actions
Really??
Are you just making shit up now?
Predictions for 2009:
LJ runs for 1800 yards
Bowe in the pro bowl
Chiefs D finishes in the top 10 in points allowed
Chiefs 10-6
by bonesjackson on Oct 25, 2009 3:27 PM CDT up reply actions
Um what?
Thigpen won zero games as a starter, Cassel has won one.
Desperately hoping for Desperate Measures
by averagegatsby on Oct 25, 2009 3:30 PM CDT up reply actions
Thigpen
Didn’t start the game in Oakland last year? Who did? Oh was that Cassel too?
Predictions for 2009:
LJ runs for 1800 yards
Bowe in the pro bowl
Chiefs D finishes in the top 10 in points allowed
Chiefs 10-6
by bonesjackson on Oct 25, 2009 3:31 PM CDT up reply actions
Just admit
You are making shit up. So much easier than lying after you get caught
Predictions for 2009:
LJ runs for 1800 yards
Bowe in the pro bowl
Chiefs D finishes in the top 10 in points allowed
Chiefs 10-6
by bonesjackson on Oct 25, 2009 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Im not making shit up I was mistaken
I thought that win came earlier in the season…
But even so 15 for 22 for 162 with no TD’s and an INT is hardly dominating
Desperately hoping for Desperate Measures
by averagegatsby on Oct 25, 2009 3:34 PM CDT up reply actions
And in which game
Has Cassel been dominating in?
Predictions for 2009:
LJ runs for 1800 yards
Bowe in the pro bowl
Chiefs D finishes in the top 10 in points allowed
Chiefs 10-6
by bonesjackson on Oct 25, 2009 3:36 PM CDT up reply actions
has been dominating in?
Its just a ridiculous statement to think that Thigpen or Croyle would do much better than Cassel. He is getting killed nearly every time he drops back, and his receivers are dropping a lot of balls.
At least Thigpen had Gonzalez last year.
Desperately hoping for Desperate Measures
by averagegatsby on Oct 25, 2009 3:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Thigpen or Croyle
Wouldn’t have cost a 2009 2nd round pick and over $30 million guarenteed. They could be replaced next year.
Predictions for 2009:
LJ runs for 1800 yards
Bowe in the pro bowl
Chiefs D finishes in the top 10 in points allowed
Chiefs 10-6
by bonesjackson on Oct 25, 2009 4:04 PM CDT up reply actions
Who cares about the money
you keep bringing it up, but it had to be spent. And since we didn’t bring in Haynesworth for a billion dollars (or whatever he makes). Why does it matter. Cassel will be better. Trent Green was fucking terrible his first year in KC too
Desperately hoping for Desperate Measures
by averagegatsby on Oct 25, 2009 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions
So a smart coach...
would say hey we pretty much suck on the o-line we are getting smoked by the half, lets not get our $60 million investment killed year one. Maybe we should play our 3rd string before the last series of the game. Maybe keep some confidence in Cassel.
by Chiefsfan_in_the_MileHigh on Oct 25, 2009 4:04 PM CDT up reply actions
Who are you replying to?
Predictions for 2009:
LJ runs for 1800 yards
Bowe in the pro bowl
Chiefs D finishes in the top 10 in points allowed
Chiefs 10-6
by bonesjackson on Oct 25, 2009 4:10 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeesh, bro.
I remember the first time I was right about something, too. Chill out.
by mynameistyler on Oct 25, 2009 3:35 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm saying Thigpen wouldn't be any better in this game, overall
* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season
The hell he wouldnt of
Thigpen in the spread was never this terrible.
"Its going to be a challenge, its going to feel like forever, and there will be difficulties. But we will emerge on the other side of it stronger than we were when we entered." ~ Sudden
I'd take Cassel in the spread
over thigpen in the spread
but this is pointless.
I gotta get out of here, I’ll discuss more when everyone calms down and comes up with logical points rather than panic and anger
* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season
Tyler
made better decisions passing too. Higher completion %, better TD to INT rate and had better presence in the pocket.
Predictions for 2009:
LJ runs for 1800 yards
Bowe in the pro bowl
Chiefs D finishes in the top 10 in points allowed
Chiefs 10-6
by bonesjackson on Oct 25, 2009 3:24 PM CDT up reply actions
Thigpen actually made games interesting...
Bowe and Wade FTW.
When you fail to prepare, you prepare to fail.
Look at it like this though. Lets hope Jets rebound on Raiders
Bowe and Wade FTW.
When you fail to prepare, you prepare to fail.
I`d check Cassels hands before the game starts….I`m sure somone has put glue on his hands!!! Holds onto the ball forever
by CHIEFS_FAN_ENGLAND on Oct 25, 2009 3:24 PM CDT reply actions
Our Defensive Scheme is terrible
Pendergast just doesn’t seem to have a clue when calling plays. I just feel like Cassel was trying a bit harder than usual to try and get us back into the game and made some bad decisions with 2 of the picks. I am most upset about the blocked punt…that sort of mistake is inexcusable.
On the positive side, D Williams was all over the place on those goaline stands.
Before the season started, I was on-board with a hybrid approach due to the personnel we have
but I’m no longer buying in. We need to make the wholesale change and get in a DC who’s good at running it. Pendergast was a terrible choice as DC. I hated it when we brought him in and I hate it even more now.
Braccae illae virides cum subucula rosea et tunica Caledonia-quam elenganter concinnatur!
If the Chiefs oppositions team coach was stuck in traffic and missed the start of the game….I`m still thinking we couldn`t rush the ball and Cassel would still miss open receivers WE SUCK THAT BAD!
by CHIEFS_FAN_ENGLAND on Oct 25, 2009 3:27 PM CDT reply actions
Breaking News!
Tyler Thigpen no longer a Kansas City Chief!
by mynameistyler on Oct 25, 2009 3:27 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
haha
well put, I was just thinking there are way too many Thigpen comments here right now….
by 5280ChiefsFan on Oct 25, 2009 3:28 PM CDT up reply actions
Only in response to....
Those that say another QB couldn’t do better. Thigpen Clearly was better last season on at least as bad of a team
Predictions for 2009:
LJ runs for 1800 yards
Bowe in the pro bowl
Chiefs D finishes in the top 10 in points allowed
Chiefs 10-6
by bonesjackson on Oct 25, 2009 3:30 PM CDT up reply actions
We didn't
The guy that traded for Cassel did
Predictions for 2009:
LJ runs for 1800 yards
Bowe in the pro bowl
Chiefs D finishes in the top 10 in points allowed
Chiefs 10-6
by bonesjackson on Oct 25, 2009 3:34 PM CDT up reply actions
Thigpen won one game
Being close doesn’t matter. Cassel has a much better chance of quarterbacking a team to the superbowl than Thigpen does. Do you really think Thigpen would have put up the numbers that Cassel did last year if he had been the Patriots QB?
Yes
Predictions for 2009:
LJ runs for 1800 yards
Bowe in the pro bowl
Chiefs D finishes in the top 10 in points allowed
Chiefs 10-6
by bonesjackson on Oct 25, 2009 3:40 PM CDT up reply actions
Cassel was
Pioli’s guy. Nobody offered more for Cassel than the Chiefs did
Predictions for 2009:
LJ runs for 1800 yards
Bowe in the pro bowl
Chiefs D finishes in the top 10 in points allowed
Chiefs 10-6
by bonesjackson on Oct 25, 2009 3:42 PM CDT up reply actions
Denver did
Desperately hoping for Desperate Measures
by averagegatsby on Oct 25, 2009 3:43 PM CDT up reply actions
According to who?
Denver has said they were not actively pursuing Cassel.
Predictions for 2009:
LJ runs for 1800 yards
Bowe in the pro bowl
Chiefs D finishes in the top 10 in points allowed
Chiefs 10-6
by bonesjackson on Oct 25, 2009 3:45 PM CDT up reply actions
They said that because they pissed off Cutler
by doing the exact opposite
Desperately hoping for Desperate Measures
by averagegatsby on Oct 25, 2009 3:46 PM CDT up reply actions
There is proof
Denver offered more than KC for Cassel? I have seen nothing that said that
Predictions for 2009:
LJ runs for 1800 yards
Bowe in the pro bowl
Chiefs D finishes in the top 10 in points allowed
Chiefs 10-6
by bonesjackson on Oct 25, 2009 3:48 PM CDT up reply actions
I dont think anyone knows what Denver offered
but it stands to believe that they offered as much. From what I understand the Chiefs made their offer first and the Patriots took it.
Desperately hoping for Desperate Measures
by averagegatsby on Oct 25, 2009 3:49 PM CDT up reply actions
I was primarily referring to what we got for Thigpen
Don’t you think its possible that people who evaluate professional football talent for a living are probably better at it than you the vast majority of the time? Have you ever seen a spread offense win a Superbowl? Have you have seen Thigpen have success (if you call winning one game in ten starts success) in anything other than the ArrowSpread?
sure
But that doesn’t mean they are right. 32 teams full of talent evaluators let Tom Brady sit there for what 199 picks. Cassel is 1 win in 6 starts is that worth the price paid?
Predictions for 2009:
LJ runs for 1800 yards
Bowe in the pro bowl
Chiefs D finishes in the top 10 in points allowed
Chiefs 10-6
by bonesjackson on Oct 25, 2009 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions
like averagegatsby said
The money is a non issue because we are well below the cap even after Cassel’s contract. The upgrade of Cassel and Vrabel is well worth a 2nd round pick
We can agree to disagree
If Thigpen ever wins a playoff game, I will clearly have been wrong about his talent level. If Cassel continues to only win one out of six for the rest of his contract, I will have been wrong about him too. We’ll just have see how it plays out
The point isn't
that Thigpen is the QBOTF. The point is we gave up a second round pick which could have been used to help the O Line and Lots of money which could have been used anywhere else on the team for a QB that is hardly if at all an upgrade
Predictions for 2009:
LJ runs for 1800 yards
Bowe in the pro bowl
Chiefs D finishes in the top 10 in points allowed
Chiefs 10-6
by bonesjackson on Oct 25, 2009 3:44 PM CDT up reply actions
The money isn't an issue
It had to be spent, and we are still under the minimum. You can keep bringing up the minimum but it doesn’t validate your point. Granted we gave up a second round pick but I have no problem giving up a 2nd round pick for a starting QB and a starting LB
Desperately hoping for Desperate Measures
by averagegatsby on Oct 25, 2009 3:46 PM CDT up reply actions
Well then have fun pulling for whatever team Carl Peterson winds up with next.
Thigpen played decent in a gimmicky offense.
Desperately hoping for Desperate Measures
by averagegatsby on Oct 25, 2009 3:40 PM CDT up reply actions
And
Cassel is playing like shit in Todd Haley’s offense. Don’t know where you are trying to go with that….
Predictions for 2009:
LJ runs for 1800 yards
Bowe in the pro bowl
Chiefs D finishes in the top 10 in points allowed
Chiefs 10-6
by bonesjackson on Oct 25, 2009 3:42 PM CDT up reply actions
and your point is?
No one is arguing that this team doesn’t suck. Im just saying that Croyle would also get hit every play, and since he is fragile he would probably get hurt. And Im sure Thigpen wouldn’t be so great since he only threw the ball to Gonzalez
Desperately hoping for Desperate Measures
by averagegatsby on Oct 25, 2009 3:45 PM CDT up reply actions
I didn't say
Thigpen would be great. I am saying that Cassel is not enough of an upgrade for the price paid for him.
Predictions for 2009:
LJ runs for 1800 yards
Bowe in the pro bowl
Chiefs D finishes in the top 10 in points allowed
Chiefs 10-6
by bonesjackson on Oct 25, 2009 3:49 PM CDT up reply actions
and you are wrong
2nd round pick for a starting QB and a starting LB is worth it.
Desperately hoping for Desperate Measures
by averagegatsby on Oct 25, 2009 3:51 PM CDT up reply actions
Not if
The starting QB is really just a backup and the LB is old and an UFA so we only get him for one year. If we are trading TonyG for less than what we gave up for a backup caliber QB and one year of Vrabel. Does that clear it up for you?
Predictions for 2009:
LJ runs for 1800 yards
Bowe in the pro bowl
Chiefs D finishes in the top 10 in points allowed
Chiefs 10-6
by bonesjackson on Oct 25, 2009 4:06 PM CDT up reply actions
Tony G was going to be gone anyway though
so its better to get something for him. And Vrabel brings more than just his onfield play.
Desperately hoping for Desperate Measures
by averagegatsby on Oct 25, 2009 4:18 PM CDT up reply actions
He was under contract
Tony was going no where unless he retired.
Predictions for 2009:
LJ runs for 1800 yards
Bowe in the pro bowl
Chiefs D finishes in the top 10 in points allowed
Chiefs 10-6
by bonesjackson on Oct 25, 2009 4:29 PM CDT up reply actions
which he very well could have
he really had nothing left to play for in KC
Desperately hoping for Desperate Measures
by averagegatsby on Oct 25, 2009 4:29 PM CDT up reply actions
Point is...
We miss him. Well I do. At least games were interesting.
Bowe and Wade FTW.
When you fail to prepare, you prepare to fail.
by NJChieffan16 on Oct 25, 2009 3:29 PM CDT up reply actions
Haley's response
You see Haley’s reaction on the sideline? Similar to Jim Zorn’s.
YEAH! Fu$@##(* clueless when your corners kept getting beat by Vincent Jackson (setting Chargers record for rec. yds in a half)
Oh yeah and a couple of weeks ago, allowing an unknown WR – Austin running up 250 yds on receiving.
Predictions as of 06.24.2009.
Larry Johnson will be a top 3 fantasy pick once again in 2010 (after a monster season in 2009.)
Dwayne Bowe will be a 2009 Pro Bowl selection.
Brandon Flowers will have at least 6 INTs in 2009 season.
Todd Haley will have a sideline shouting match caught on TV yelling at one of his asst. coaches.
by 58 was my friend on Oct 25, 2009 3:27 PM CDT reply actions
Yeah
That is an interesting record…. Considering the pass catches SD has had in their history. I thought the same thing when Austin broke the Dallas game record.
Predictions for 2009:
LJ runs for 1800 yards
Bowe in the pro bowl
Chiefs D finishes in the top 10 in points allowed
Chiefs 10-6
by bonesjackson on Oct 25, 2009 3:29 PM CDT up reply actions
oh yeah
Some LB named Keyaron Fox return a TD in the final minutes for the Steelers beating the undeated Vikes.
Predictions as of 06.24.2009.
Larry Johnson will be a top 3 fantasy pick once again in 2010 (after a monster season in 2009.)
Dwayne Bowe will be a 2009 Pro Bowl selection.
Brandon Flowers will have at least 6 INTs in 2009 season.
Todd Haley will have a sideline shouting match caught on TV yelling at one of his asst. coaches.
by 58 was my friend on Oct 25, 2009 3:29 PM CDT reply actions
BREAKING NEWS
In weeks ahead – more ex-chiefs make an impact on their new team making a difference.
Predictions as of 06.24.2009.
Larry Johnson will be a top 3 fantasy pick once again in 2010 (after a monster season in 2009.)
Dwayne Bowe will be a 2009 Pro Bowl selection.
Brandon Flowers will have at least 6 INTs in 2009 season.
Todd Haley will have a sideline shouting match caught on TV yelling at one of his asst. coaches.
by 58 was my friend on Oct 25, 2009 3:29 PM CDT up reply actions
Seriously no kidding
Pollard turns around the Texans run D. Granted he still probably can’t cover, but just another example of poor player evaluation.
Dude Pollard sucks
He sat in the free agency pool weeks before Houston called him. If he was good, he would have been signed 4 days later. Now you’re just outright lying.
We haven't played well all year.
And we aren’t showing any signs of getting better week to week. Most of these guys won’t be on the roster next year. It’s just time to wait until the offseason and hope Pioli can actually make a difference instead of keeping us in a static state of terrible.
…I`m in love with a Bengals cheerleader…shes hot…oh mama lock at the rack on that…ok sorry back to Chiefs…I`m focused now
by CHIEFS_FAN_ENGLAND on Oct 25, 2009 3:29 PM CDT reply actions
name one college coach that has had success in the NFL
Desperately hoping for Desperate Measures
by averagegatsby on Oct 25, 2009 3:52 PM CDT up reply actions
Jimmy Johnson
Erykah Badu, I have accepted your proposal. So, Mrs. DTR, let's get to consummating...you are on notice.
"All praise Chiefus."
by DThomasReigns on Oct 25, 2009 3:55 PM CDT up reply actions
it helps that
the Cowboys completely raped the VIkings, and that Jimmy had 2 of the greatest coordinators in the history of the game.
Im not saying he was a bad coach, but I think he may have been a little overrated.
Desperately hoping for Desperate Measures
by averagegatsby on Oct 25, 2009 3:56 PM CDT up reply actions
He chose the players that made him great after pulling off that raping of the Vikes
Besides that wasn’t your question. It was to name one college coach who had success in the NFL…he won 3 Super Bowls because of that fantastic trade you just cited.
BTW- I vehemently oppose Kirk Ferentz
Erykah Badu, I have accepted your proposal. So, Mrs. DTR, let's get to consummating...you are on notice.
"All praise Chiefus."
by DThomasReigns on Oct 25, 2009 3:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Fair Enough...
But if he was the last one, I would say the list since him is a pretty staggering list of reasons to avoid college coaches
Desperately hoping for Desperate Measures
by averagegatsby on Oct 25, 2009 4:00 PM CDT up reply actions
I agree with that.
I do NOT want a college coach….ever.
Erykah Badu, I have accepted your proposal. So, Mrs. DTR, let's get to consummating...you are on notice.
"All praise Chiefus."
by DThomasReigns on Oct 25, 2009 4:01 PM CDT up reply actions
And yet teams keep doing it.
I can’t wait for Pete Carrol to go back to the NFL, I hate USC soooooo much.
Desperately hoping for Desperate Measures
by averagegatsby on Oct 25, 2009 4:19 PM CDT up reply actions
The Browns will get 400 yards total on us when we play
as we continue to let people break records.
Bowe and Wade FTW.
When you fail to prepare, you prepare to fail.
i'd give that one to KC though
Notice KC beats up on shittier teams such as Redskins and perhaps Cleveland.
I am most furious with a Head Coach who can’t get his team ready for a division opponent – ON TOP OF THAT!!!! at freaking HOME!
Predictions as of 06.24.2009.
Larry Johnson will be a top 3 fantasy pick once again in 2010 (after a monster season in 2009.)
Dwayne Bowe will be a 2009 Pro Bowl selection.
Brandon Flowers will have at least 6 INTs in 2009 season.
Todd Haley will have a sideline shouting match caught on TV yelling at one of his asst. coaches.
by 58 was my friend on Oct 25, 2009 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions
That Arrowhead magic...
is a thing of the past. We haven’t had home-field advantage in a couple of seasons. I can see the sellout streak coming to an end this season.
by 5280ChiefsFan on Oct 25, 2009 3:33 PM CDT up reply actions
Everyone blames Cassel and that is fine...
but until our OLine/TEs/RBs start blocking better than a high school team in Tahiti, Cassel isn’t going to be able to do anything successful.
It's no Cassel
Predictions as of 06.24.2009.
Larry Johnson will be a top 3 fantasy pick once again in 2010 (after a monster season in 2009.)
Dwayne Bowe will be a 2009 Pro Bowl selection.
Brandon Flowers will have at least 6 INTs in 2009 season.
Todd Haley will have a sideline shouting match caught on TV yelling at one of his asst. coaches.
by 58 was my friend on Oct 25, 2009 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't blame Cassel...
granted he played very poorly today, it was the overall team suckage that led to the loss.
by 5280ChiefsFan on Oct 25, 2009 3:33 PM CDT up reply actions
No kidding, with all the INTs
he was trying to do too much. No Running game or o-line or receivers to bail him out, Cassels out there alone. I can’t believe people are so hard on him.
I don't care about his TD
Bowe’s unreliability at catching balls is a terrible sign for the future. I just can’t trust him.
That's why someone like K. Meier from Kansas would be a great addition next year.
by BCRavenJHawkfan on Oct 25, 2009 3:33 PM CDT up reply actions
too bad the Jayhawks are
looking like crap lately after losing to CU in Boulder and then to Oklahoma State at home…
by 5280ChiefsFan on Oct 25, 2009 3:34 PM CDT up reply actions
They lost to Oklahoma
and Kerry Meier isn’t that highly touted as a receiver. Dont let your homerism cloud your judgement He could be good, but just because he racks up catches and yards in a pass happy offense doesn’t mean he will be good
Desperately hoping for Desperate Measures
by averagegatsby on Oct 25, 2009 3:54 PM CDT up reply actions
This is what we need
a new line…LT, G, C, (put albert at RG), (O’Callaghan at RT)
another WR that is dominate like Bowe was.
After next year we need a bruiser for a RB.
FS, SS, a solid 1 CB (move flowers to #2)
ILB, OLB, NT and another true 3-4 DE.
Too many holes to fill for 1-2 years….
Adding to the list
QB, OC, DC, FB, TE
Predictions for 2009:
LJ runs for 1800 yards
Bowe in the pro bowl
Chiefs D finishes in the top 10 in points allowed
Chiefs 10-6
by bonesjackson on Oct 25, 2009 3:33 PM CDT up reply actions
Adding one more
QB coach
Predictions for 2009:
LJ runs for 1800 yards
Bowe in the pro bowl
Chiefs D finishes in the top 10 in points allowed
Chiefs 10-6
by bonesjackson on Oct 25, 2009 3:41 PM CDT up reply actions
Im glad that the Jets may destroy the Raiders...
Bowe and Wade FTW.
When you fail to prepare, you prepare to fail.
K Fox...
when they got him they went to a 3-4 as a change up defense to get him on the field, but he went the way of Jimmy Wilkerson.
No kidding
Keyaron Fox, Monty Beisel, Jimmy Wilkerson… and the best one that got away ?
KAWIKA MITCHELL that won a Superbowl with the Giants.
Who’s next? Jared Allen? Tank Tyler?
Predictions as of 06.24.2009.
Larry Johnson will be a top 3 fantasy pick once again in 2010 (after a monster season in 2009.)
Dwayne Bowe will be a 2009 Pro Bowl selection.
Brandon Flowers will have at least 6 INTs in 2009 season.
Todd Haley will have a sideline shouting match caught on TV yelling at one of his asst. coaches.
by 58 was my friend on Oct 25, 2009 3:35 PM CDT up reply actions
Again, our great evaluation of talent.
by BCRavenJHawkfan on Oct 25, 2009 3:36 PM CDT up reply actions
that was the old regime
Desperately hoping for Desperate Measures
by averagegatsby on Oct 25, 2009 3:57 PM CDT up reply actions
whereas the NEW regime dumps Pollard because talent has no bearing on being part of The Right 53
… I’ll take the OLD regime anytime
Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisiton!
Really?
So you are a big fan of what Herm and Carl did the last 3 years?
Pollard is the one player that has left and had any kind of impact, never mind that he was a complete liability in pass protection.
Desperately hoping for Desperate Measures
by averagegatsby on Oct 25, 2009 3:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Breaking news
Crabtree has 5 receptions to DHB 3.
Before you judge a man, walk a mile in his shoes; after that, who cares?! He's a mile away and you've got his shoes!
by SuperTurtle on Oct 25, 2009 3:32 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Thanks ST, that's the first good laugh I've had today!
Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend. Inside of a dog it's too dark to read. - Groucho Marx
Glad to be of service =p
Before you judge a man, walk a mile in his shoes; after that, who cares?! He's a mile away and you've got his shoes!
Honestly, Haley's play calling wasn't too bad today. It's wasn't spectacular.
However, I will say this team was poorly prepared/coached. Pendergast’s play calling is memorable only for being disgustingly bad. Tim Krumrie needs to go as well.
givng ball to SD on OUR OWN 41 yd line is what you consider not too bad? wow ...
Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisiton!
Uh, I said in an earlier post he made 3 or 4 bad calls. That happened to be one of them.
You guys are going way too hard on Haley’s play calling and not enough on the failure to execute.
Haley does deserve credit for not having this team prepared. That is all on his shoulders. In that aspect of the game, he failed miserably. Play calling is the least of my worries.
by SupremeChief on Oct 25, 2009 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions
Hell, I thought it was pretty good. If Cassel connects on those deep throws we're back in the game
Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend. Inside of a dog it's too dark to read. - Groucho Marx
Enough with the IF's
this is a game of inches..its those ifs that separate a team well coached and a team unprepared and tuned OUT their head coach
Predictions as of 06.24.2009.
Larry Johnson will be a top 3 fantasy pick once again in 2010 (after a monster season in 2009.)
Dwayne Bowe will be a 2009 Pro Bowl selection.
Brandon Flowers will have at least 6 INTs in 2009 season.
Todd Haley will have a sideline shouting match caught on TV yelling at one of his asst. coaches.
by 58 was my friend on Oct 25, 2009 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions
Try to stay on topic. We're talking about the play calling here.
Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend. Inside of a dog it's too dark to read. - Groucho Marx
The play calling on the defensive side of the ball is a completely different story...
by SupremeChief on Oct 25, 2009 3:40 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't even know if it's the D play calling
Our blitzes just don’t seem to work because we tip them before every snap. That’s more of a coaching issue than a play calling issue in my book.
Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend. Inside of a dog it's too dark to read. - Groucho Marx
BTW
Philip Rivers had something to tell the Chargers equipment manager -
Rivers: You don’t need to clean my jersey for next week, I didn’t get touched at all.
Predictions as of 06.24.2009.
Larry Johnson will be a top 3 fantasy pick once again in 2010 (after a monster season in 2009.)
Dwayne Bowe will be a 2009 Pro Bowl selection.
Brandon Flowers will have at least 6 INTs in 2009 season.
Todd Haley will have a sideline shouting match caught on TV yelling at one of his asst. coaches.
by 58 was my friend on Oct 25, 2009 3:36 PM CDT up reply actions
SO TRUE
Bowe and Wade FTW.
When you fail to prepare, you prepare to fail.
by NJChieffan16 on Oct 25, 2009 3:43 PM CDT up reply actions
Can we play road game for the rest of the year?
We suck balls at home.
Bowe and Wade FTW.
When you fail to prepare, you prepare to fail.
We
Suck balls on the road too
Predictions for 2009:
LJ runs for 1800 yards
Bowe in the pro bowl
Chiefs D finishes in the top 10 in points allowed
Chiefs 10-6
by bonesjackson on Oct 25, 2009 3:35 PM CDT up reply actions
We
have won our last 2 on the road. We obviously suck more at home even though we suck on the road also.
Bowe and Wade FTW.
When you fail to prepare, you prepare to fail.
by NJChieffan16 on Oct 25, 2009 3:36 PM CDT up reply actions
yeah cuz we ROCK on the road, like @ Balt and @ Phil - 1,000 yds between the two of 'em - hell yeah, more road games
Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisiton!
at home...
Chargers break records, Cowboys break records, Raiders win, Chargers blow us out. At least on the road, we have won one.
Bowe and Wade FTW.
When you fail to prepare, you prepare to fail.
by NJChieffan16 on Oct 25, 2009 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions
at least we know
who are 2nd and 3rd stringers are next year…..that’d be most of this year’s starters and second stringers. we’ve found our depth, now we just need to add about 10-15 starters.
i’ll be extremely happy when crennel is announced as our new defensive coordinator, but who in the world is going to be our OC?
"We're not losers, we just can't win!"
Why the fascination for Crennel?
I didn’t see anything out of him at Cleveland. And I don’t really believe he ran the D in NE, that was Belichek. I’m interested to know why his name keeps coming up. Seriously.
Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend. Inside of a dog it's too dark to read. - Groucho Marx
Because he is a good 3-4 DC....
I woudnt know any others…..
"Its going to be a challenge, its going to feel like forever, and there will be difficulties. But we will emerge on the other side of it stronger than we were when we entered." ~ Sudden
Where's the proof of that?
He certainly didn’t do it at Cleveland. I don’t know why we should think he’ll be any better in KC. If it’s just a new 3-4 Coach there are coaches with other teams we could go after. It’s just money.
Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend. Inside of a dog it's too dark to read. - Groucho Marx
Lets do it then...
Im not supporting Crennel….just thinking as to why everyone else is…I would be happy with anyone better than Pendergast
"Its going to be a challenge, its going to feel like forever, and there will be difficulties. But we will emerge on the other side of it stronger than we were when we entered." ~ Sudden
I don't buy into the "anyone would be better than ..." philosophy
I saw that fail when they fired Mackovic (one of the happiest days of my life) and replace him with “anybody” in the form of Ganz, a good ST coach, but not ready to be HC by any means. I’m not sold on Clancy, but I want to see them take their time this year and get the RIGHT guy.
Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend. Inside of a dog it's too dark to read. - Groucho Marx
And I can't believe that Crennel is the right guy at this point.
Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend. Inside of a dog it's too dark to read. - Groucho Marx
Fair Enough...
How about we get Marvin Lewis…
"Its going to be a challenge, its going to feel like forever, and there will be difficulties. But we will emerge on the other side of it stronger than we were when we entered." ~ Sudden
He is the head coach of a football team
who has a chance to win their division
Desperately hoping for Desperate Measures
by averagegatsby on Oct 25, 2009 4:01 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't know who the right guy is
I’m not absolutely sure about Clancy one way or another at this point. But I do expect we will see coaching changes next year and I want to see them take their time and get the right people, and I sure don’t know who that is at this point.
Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend. Inside of a dog it's too dark to read. - Groucho Marx
I agree that Clancy was a terrible hire...
I hated it when it was made. But just throwing out random names doesn’t help. Personally I think Gunther could have done better without Herm forcing his bullshit soft bend but dont break defense.
Desperately hoping for Desperate Measures
by averagegatsby on Oct 25, 2009 4:23 PM CDT up reply actions
You may be right
but UCrawford has about convinced me that Gunther’s D was a function of Marty. Gunther didn’t seem to make Vermeil’s D much better either.
Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend. Inside of a dog it's too dark to read. - Groucho Marx
I think Vermeil
may have sabotaged his D a little. From what I remember the defense got half the practice time the offense did.
Its possible, but I think Gunther would be doing just as good. We would also still be in the 4-3, meaning we probably would have drafted Curry instead of Jackson, so this team would look very different.
Desperately hoping for Desperate Measures
by averagegatsby on Oct 25, 2009 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions
Interesting point
I will say I don’t trust Gunther as a talent analyst. Gunther was always high on the series of D line busts we had.
The thing that really made me interested in seeing the Chiefs move to the 3-4 was Haley’s comment about the difficulty in planning against it. But I think a big key is how well the team blitzes, and we really suck at that so far. The pre-snap tips we’ve been giving EVERY GAME is driving me nuts.
Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend. Inside of a dog it's too dark to read. - Groucho Marx
I cringe everytime a safety comes on a blitz
It usually means nothing good.
Before you judge a man, walk a mile in his shoes; after that, who cares?! He's a mile away and you've got his shoes!
theres more to it than that...
Personally I would prefer if more of the “pre snap” blitzing were more of a ruse… See guys back off a little more. When you crowd the line that much its to create confusion on the line, so the blockers do not know who their assignment is
Desperately hoping for Desperate Measures
by averagegatsby on Oct 25, 2009 4:34 PM CDT up reply actions
Agreed, but how many times has our pre-snap tips
Not been a clear indication of our post-snap blitz. That is the most frustrating thing for me on the D this year, even more than the tackling (which honestly seems improved [I’m tempted to stir the pot and say it’s because Pollard is gone]).
Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend. Inside of a dog it's too dark to read. - Groucho Marx
they need to do a better job mixing it up.
I love watching the Ravens fake a blitz, I imagine there is about as much panic in a QB’s eyes when all of a sudden there is 7 in coverage. Especially when you are in the 3-4 and the 7 dropping and the 4 coming could be anyone
Desperately hoping for Desperate Measures
by averagegatsby on Oct 25, 2009 4:38 PM CDT up reply actions
Agreed - same with the Eagles
Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend. Inside of a dog it's too dark to read. - Groucho Marx
I think Johnson could
get into the HOF as a coordinator. That guy was a blitzing visionary
Desperately hoping for Desperate Measures
by averagegatsby on Oct 25, 2009 4:43 PM CDT up reply actions
I want to know what Pioli is thinking...
Let’s see Mr. Pioli.. who continues to look for the “right 53”… Why don’t you start with the right coaching staff, and I know things got off to a late start by hiring Haley after the SB, but c’mon, Clancy Pendergrast is way in over his head, and I’m starting to wonder if Haley knows what he’s doing… He’s clearly overwhelmed, I get that, but man, I don’t see where he’s getting much help on that coaching staff he and Pioli assembled.. Bill Muir is a waste, and Tim Krumrie was bad last year, so why he was retained makes absolutely no sense… Now the draft, which is turning in to a disaster… Tyson Jackson was a reach and hasn’t made a dent on defense, and while I understand he’s not going to get us DT-like sack numbers, I’d be happy with a big play, maybe blowing up a run in the backfield, and I can’t even see that… Magee, wow, where’s he at… Donald Washington, great athlete, which is great for Haley’s conditioning test, but not real football… Colin Brown, hmm, he’s doing the offensive line well on the Practice squad… 6th rounder, oh yeah, he got released today… Jarvis Wiliams? And finally Ryan Succop, who missed a FG today, he’s the Chiefs best draft pick? And then, to make matters worse, you trade Tank Tyler for only a fifth rounder? A guy three years into his NFL career, is only worth a fifth round pick? So, we’re looking at another Colin Brown like pick instead of Tank Tyler, a legitimate NFL D-Lineman who will probably get worlds better once he gets real coaching…
I’m not sure what Pioli the Great is doing. I’m starting to wonder if it really was all Belichick in New England… I’m not giving up on Pioli, but I’ve been extremely underwhelmed with what he’s doing… I know we’re not going to be SB contenders this year, but I have a hard time believing there wasn’t more that could be done to make this a better team.
www.coachesaid.com/mo
We have all of that cap space...
and yet we didn’t sign any big name free agents. We just didn’t put enough effort into making this team better.
by 5280ChiefsFan on Oct 25, 2009 3:39 PM CDT up reply actions
+1
yeah Pioli, WTF is with your cleaning house?
This is a real team not a fantasy football and your attempt to get more draft picks JUST CUZ is puzzling when you can’t even draft and find the right coaches.
Stop being an ASS and drop that ego – YOU Screwed up with the hiring of Haley. You waited too damn long and McDaniels didn’t wait when he got offered Den’s job and you let Jim Schwatz get away to Det.
You want this team to start believing again? get Todd out of here. His ways of demeaning and tormenting talented players slowly is wearing out on the team. I give KC one more game..wait…its happening already…the team has already TUNED out Haley.
Predictions as of 06.24.2009.
Larry Johnson will be a top 3 fantasy pick once again in 2010 (after a monster season in 2009.)
Dwayne Bowe will be a 2009 Pro Bowl selection.
Brandon Flowers will have at least 6 INTs in 2009 season.
Todd Haley will have a sideline shouting match caught on TV yelling at one of his asst. coaches.
by 58 was my friend on Oct 25, 2009 3:41 PM CDT up reply actions
Umm, dropping 20+ players from your roster isn't CLEANING HOUSE?
You do realize you need to field an entire team to play every week, right?
And the Love Bowe had for Haley
after the win last week clearly proves your point about wearing down this team.
Its nearly impossible to make chicken salad out of chicken shit.
Desperately hoping for Desperate Measures
by averagegatsby on Oct 25, 2009 4:04 PM CDT up reply actions
Casey Printers quote?
Desperately hoping for Desperate Measures
by averagegatsby on Oct 25, 2009 4:19 PM CDT up reply actions
Oh..
my bad lol. I thought you were referencing Casey Printers.
When they did Hard Knocks for the Chiefs, Casey Printers got cut. He told the coaches he couldnt make chicken salad out of chicken shit. They kept talking and he finally asked what he could have done to make the team and whoever he was talking to responded “make chicken salad out of chicken shit” haha.
Thats a pretty old saying though...
Ive been using it for years.
Desperately hoping for Desperate Measures
by averagegatsby on Oct 25, 2009 4:40 PM CDT up reply actions
at least we know
who are 2nd and 3rd stringers are next year…..that’d be most of this year’s starters and second stringers. we’ve found our depth, now we just need to add about 10-15 starters.
i’ll be extremely happy when crennel is announced as our new defensive coordinator, but who in the world is going to be our OC?
"We're not losers, we just can't win!"
by chief Stevie_k on Oct 25, 2009 3:36 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Last year against the Chargers
Tyler Thigpen – 27-41 266yrds 3TD 0int 2rushes 26yrds 108.4QB rating………yeah we lost 19-20
"Its going to be a challenge, its going to feel like forever, and there will be difficulties. But we will emerge on the other side of it stronger than we were when we entered." ~ Sudden
Worth Mentioning...
Tony Gonzalez: 10 receptions, 113 yards, 2 TDs
by mynameistyler on Oct 25, 2009 3:38 PM CDT up reply actions
He always helped
"Its going to be a challenge, its going to feel like forever, and there will be difficulties. But we will emerge on the other side of it stronger than we were when we entered." ~ Sudden
Yeah he had Gonzo to bail him out.
Our QB has no tools whatsoever.
We didnt HAVE to trade Tony.....
"Its going to be a challenge, its going to feel like forever, and there will be difficulties. But we will emerge on the other side of it stronger than we were when we entered." ~ Sudden
yeah but then if he would've retired after this failed season we'd have nothing. he promised to retire in 1-2 years if the chiefs held onto him.
For the millionth time, the Gonzo trade was a good deal for us.
We Should Have...
I don’t at all disagree with dealing him. The issue being now is that Bowe is completely exposed. Tony took a little bit of pressure off of him and let him get down field because Tony was taking up backs in the mid-range. Now Bowe is the only respectable down-field threat and everyone knows it.
by mynameistyler on Oct 25, 2009 3:41 PM CDT up reply actions
To finish my initial thought...
I don’t disagree with trading him because he deserved more than we were putting in. I’m not a player over team guy, but he deserved it after everything he’d given the Chiefs.
by mynameistyler on Oct 25, 2009 3:41 PM CDT up reply actions
He didnt give us shit
He was paid to do his job….he just happened to be better than everyone else at that job….he didnt play for free…he was paid…..
He doesnt deserve anything.
"Its going to be a challenge, its going to feel like forever, and there will be difficulties. But we will emerge on the other side of it stronger than we were when we entered." ~ Sudden
NOPE
Tony was a worthy trade – just for tony’s sake that he gets to played with a good team that has a chance to get to the SB.
What we didn’t need to trade for was Matt Cassel and and signing him to a huge contract and giving Cassel $26 when the team isn’t making a difference this year.
We suck now..guess what? we’d be drafting top 3 pick again in 2010. QB’s available next year – even better than Sanchez and Stafford.
Predictions as of 06.24.2009.
Larry Johnson will be a top 3 fantasy pick once again in 2010 (after a monster season in 2009.)
Dwayne Bowe will be a 2009 Pro Bowl selection.
Brandon Flowers will have at least 6 INTs in 2009 season.
Todd Haley will have a sideline shouting match caught on TV yelling at one of his asst. coaches.
by 58 was my friend on Oct 25, 2009 3:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Thats the thing..
In such a QB heavy draft why didnt we just WAIT!!
"Its going to be a challenge, its going to feel like forever, and there will be difficulties. But we will emerge on the other side of it stronger than we were when we entered." ~ Sudden
Very few rookie QB's have panned out
Matt Ryan and Flacco are about the only ones that have come to mind in quite a while. Sanchez sucks.
Roethlistberger
Cutler, Rivers, Eli Manning,
Desperately hoping for Desperate Measures
by averagegatsby on Oct 25, 2009 4:06 PM CDT up reply actions
Eli Manning
9 games, 1043 yards, 5.3 average, 115 yards per game, 6 TD’s and 9 INT’s with a 55.4 passer rating is NOT a successful rookie year. Eli didnt really step up into a good QB until the end of 2007.
Rivers only played 4 games in his first 2 years of the league. Thats definately not having success as a rookie.
All of those guys were not successful into a few years into their careers. And with the average patience of KC fan (on full display here), that wouldn’t fly. People want to run Matt out of town after 6 solid, not special games,
well Roethlisberger was
Desperately hoping for Desperate Measures
by averagegatsby on Oct 25, 2009 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions
Roethlisburger must be the most successful qb ever in terms of SB's
How many years has he been in the league? and hes already got 2 rings
Before you judge a man, walk a mile in his shoes; after that, who cares?! He's a mile away and you've got his shoes!
That sounded dumb
I meant for his age
Before you judge a man, walk a mile in his shoes; after that, who cares?! He's a mile away and you've got his shoes!
and he only lost like 2 games
one of them being a playoff game his rookie year
Desperately hoping for Desperate Measures
by averagegatsby on Oct 25, 2009 4:23 PM CDT up reply actions
I' so glad Pioli and Haley go for THE RIGHT 53 instead of like, you know ... TALENT
cuz TALENT is, you know, like WAY overrated
Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisiton!
Im so gald
You, LIKE, to, LIKE, bold RANDOM words in YOUR post. MAKES your point SEEM so much more SUBSTANTIAL.
Before you judge a man, walk a mile in his shoes; after that, who cares?! He's a mile away and you've got his shoes!
oh, there's nothing "random" about my choice of words - or those that I choose to emphasize
Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisiton!
I know
I dont know how to use sarcasm font =/
Before you judge a man, walk a mile in his shoes; after that, who cares?! He's a mile away and you've got his shoes!
RAWR someones a bit pissy, arent we?
Before you judge a man, walk a mile in his shoes; after that, who cares?! He's a mile away and you've got his shoes!
We need TG way more than the Falcons.
WHY OH WHY??? We would have like 3 win by now with him.
Bowe and Wade FTW.
When you fail to prepare, you prepare to fail.
Even if we had Tony G
Cassel can’t hit the broad side of a barn.
No Fumbles! see? I found something POSITIVE! NO FUMBLES!!!
wtg Chiefs!!!
Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisiton!
by upamtn on Oct 25, 2009 3:40 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
That is a reach...
but still a good thing!
by 5280ChiefsFan on Oct 25, 2009 3:40 PM CDT up reply actions
Well, I could bitch about this for a week.
Right now I am going to watch the Falcons hopefully feed TG and beat the Cowgirls.
by BCRavenJHawkfan on Oct 25, 2009 3:41 PM CDT reply actions
Its time to stop....
making excuses and defending [layers and coaches….this team is bad. I knew it would not be pretty this yr with the rebuilding,,but my GOD! This is ugly. Haley is making some of the stupidiest calls I have ever seen. Cassel could not hit the broad side of a bard with a deep pass, recievers dropping passes for no apparent reasons, the O Line is plain terrible, no running game, and the D has its moments, but cant stop 3rd down to save their ass…I dont know what haley was thinking about when he went for it on 4th down in the first quarter when we were only down 7. Then when we had fourth down and a foot he calls a pass play. Luckily we got bailed out with a pass interference call..Cassel missed 2 WIDE OPEN recievers for big gains, and the pass to Wade on the sideline COULD have been a lot better with a better throw. Adjusting to Cassels pass made his momentum carry him out of bounds…The mark of a good QB is that they make the players around them play better,Cassel does not have that ability. I dont give a shit about a QB contraversy, I think Croyle should have been inserted just to see if he could move the offense better. He proved it to me in the first game against the Ravens. Look at his stats, that one game has been the better than any numbers put up by Cassel. We are under the cap and need consistant play, if we have to take a hit on Cassel salary this yr, so be it. We need to find out who gives us the best chance to win now…Like I said, i didnt expect miracles this yr, but I dont see any improvement at all…ANYWHERE!…Herm could have done this well.
Paragraphs please?
Before you judge a man, walk a mile in his shoes; after that, who cares?! He's a mile away and you've got his shoes!
Once again...
Before you judge a man, walk a mile in his shoes; after that, who cares?! He's a mile away and you've got his shoes!
didn't haley say something
about 22 players off the street winning games….who looks like the fool now?
That was Whitlock who claimed Haley said that
Before you judge a man, walk a mile in his shoes; after that, who cares?! He's a mile away and you've got his shoes!
right, the quote as told TO Whitlock (and hey, maybe Haley DID say it)
Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisiton!
The more I hear Haley speak the less credit I give that quote.
Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend. Inside of a dog it's too dark to read. - Groucho Marx
no PROOF he actually said that (it's like second hand - the way Carl Peterson never actually had a 5 Year Plan to get to the SB)
Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisiton!
No, he never said this.
An anonymous source in the Kansas City Star said it. Funny, no one has the balls to ask him if he ever said it. Yeahhh…..I’m gonna be on the side of “he never said it.”
The anonymous source
Was Waters
Predictions for 2009:
LJ runs for 1800 yards
Bowe in the pro bowl
Chiefs D finishes in the top 10 in points allowed
Chiefs 10-6
by bonesjackson on Oct 25, 2009 4:01 PM CDT up reply actions
Colt McCoy
"Its going to be a challenge, its going to feel like forever, and there will be difficulties. But we will emerge on the other side of it stronger than we were when we entered." ~ Sudden
Why would we take a QB? We're paying Cassel 60 million...
by SupremeChief on Oct 25, 2009 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions
So we just bench a QB we're paying 60 million for....for an unproven rookie...with no o-line?
by SupremeChief on Oct 25, 2009 3:49 PM CDT up reply actions
Let's see...we have decent backups in Croyle and Gut, both of which are fairly young.
We need players who can come in and start right away…not ride the pine for a few years. Bad idea.
by SupremeChief on Oct 25, 2009 3:52 PM CDT up reply actions
My eyes are wide open. We need talent ASAP.
Not a potential talent warming the bench.
by SupremeChief on Oct 25, 2009 3:58 PM CDT up reply actions
hey now, Haley plays the RIGHT 53 who give us THE BEST CHANCE TO WIN
always
every game
every play
screw talent, it’s about The Right 53
Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisiton!
So, tell us who are the right 53 then
are we 7-0 with Pollard?
Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend. Inside of a dog it's too dark to read. - Groucho Marx
Just Joking....
I dont care the position but it better be the best damn player at that point in the draft…..QB, RB, WR, OL…..It dont matter we need playmakers
"Its going to be a challenge, its going to feel like forever, and there will be difficulties. But we will emerge on the other side of it stronger than we were when we entered." ~ Sudden
Fine with me....
We just need more talent in the draft…..not like last draft…..not much talent at all.
"Its going to be a challenge, its going to feel like forever, and there will be difficulties. But we will emerge on the other side of it stronger than we were when we entered." ~ Sudden
KC trades their pick to New England
for 6 crappy players who haven’t started for the Patriots in 2 years.
by 5280ChiefsFan on Oct 25, 2009 3:49 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Because no one in the organization gives 2 shits about whitlock maybe?
Before you judge a man, walk a mile in his shoes; after that, who cares?! He's a mile away and you've got his shoes!
And only slightly more people...
outside the organization.
by mynameistyler on Oct 25, 2009 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions
funny thing though - a lot of times Whitlock is actually RIGHT and then others say what he said to begin with
… so I guess if it’s written or said by someone ELSE it must be or could be true, but if it’s from Whitlock it HAS to be a lie …
sorry, I happen to like Whitlock and find him insightful and right more often than not
Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisiton!
I find him to be a negative creep...
and I wouldn’t know if he said it first because I can’t read his drivel anymore.
by mynameistyler on Oct 25, 2009 3:56 PM CDT up reply actions
That's fine, but like I said above, the more I hear Haley myself the less credible
I find that statement. Or on the remote chance he DID say it it’s completely out of context.
Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend. Inside of a dog it's too dark to read. - Groucho Marx
OK, so this one is in the books as another loss.
It may be the most telling thing that could have happened to us. Now Haley and company have two weeks to get ready for two very winnable games against the Jags and a rematch against the Raiders. We will get a really good idea of what kind of coach Haley is and what kind of character this team has.
Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend. Inside of a dog it's too dark to read. - Groucho Marx
Yep - Same as Dallas
Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend. Inside of a dog it's too dark to read. - Groucho Marx
You don't think the first FIVE were indicators?!!!
by BCRavenJHawkfan on Oct 25, 2009 4:04 PM CDT up reply actions
Sure - we were in all the games, unlike last year
We’ve had a bad game where things got out of hand, but they kept going. So how do they respond. Are you saying I’m wrong and they won’t indicate anything?
Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend. Inside of a dog it's too dark to read. - Groucho Marx
I mean at this point last year
we fluked out a win vs. Denver but other than that we weren’t even competitive until week 8 against the Jets.
I didn’t mean all the games last year, just at this same point in the season. Sorry for the confusion. I didn’t make it clear.
Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend. Inside of a dog it's too dark to read. - Groucho Marx
I had logged out and was thinking this crap might be something in the drinking water in Northeast KS, Western MO.
But I checked and MO Western is at least having a decent year.
by BCRavenJHawkfan on Oct 25, 2009 4:00 PM CDT reply actions
It's affecting St. Louis, too
So maybe Western MO has a private well.
Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend. Inside of a dog it's too dark to read. - Groucho Marx
I heard they drink from water bottles brought in from boston
Before you judge a man, walk a mile in his shoes; after that, who cares?! He's a mile away and you've got his shoes!
by SuperTurtle on Oct 25, 2009 4:13 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
We are nof officially the worst in the west
Raiders just pulled Russel for Gradkowski, making them much better
Hopefully it's just for this game and Al will insist on him being back when we play them.
Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend. Inside of a dog it's too dark to read. - Groucho Marx
Miles Austin looks pretty good
Makes it not so hard to bear
Before you judge a man, walk a mile in his shoes; after that, who cares?! He's a mile away and you've got his shoes!
CHiefs were not ready nor up to the challenge
Well the Chargers were playing to extend their season after coming off a poor showing at home last week and instead of taking advantage the Chiefs were not up to the challenge in any shape or form. I want to be patient with Haley and Cassel but leaders make their team better and help hide their weakness. The sad thing is with this OL we never going to know until this time next year if Cassel is a QB worth a damn. Time to regroup over the bye week. Fire the OL coach. Re hire a OC. Bench Larry “slow to hole” Johnson and go sign a CB and move Carr to your nickel guy. I never would have believed it but after watching the receivers run bye #23 today I never would have thought I would see anyone worst than William Bartee…
by NFL season ticket holder on Oct 25, 2009 4:24 PM CDT reply actions
I don't see this game as an indicator
This was one of those games where every mistake became costly and it just went against them. It happens. That’s why I’m interested to see how they come back after the bye.
Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend. Inside of a dog it's too dark to read. - Groucho Marx
I agree...
Even good teams have these types of games. Im not really worried, it sucks, but at I still believe this team is going in the right direction.
Desperately hoping for Desperate Measures
by averagegatsby on Oct 25, 2009 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions
But the thing is weve had too many of these types of games
Before you judge a man, walk a mile in his shoes; after that, who cares?! He's a mile away and you've got his shoes!
It's the only one this year.
And it’s only bad if they let it get to them.
Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend. Inside of a dog it's too dark to read. - Groucho Marx
I dont think its fair to compare this team to last years team...
New coaching staff, new front office, 20 some odd new players. They pretty much started over.
Desperately hoping for Desperate Measures
by averagegatsby on Oct 25, 2009 4:41 PM CDT up reply actions
The Eagles game? Ravens?
I recall a few games where we got our asses handed to us by domination. Or am i missing the point?
Before you judge a man, walk a mile in his shoes; after that, who cares?! He's a mile away and you've got his shoes!
We were dominated in the Ravens game...
but we weren’t out of it until the end.
Desperately hoping for Desperate Measures
by averagegatsby on Oct 25, 2009 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions
24-0 Jets over the Raiders
But the Raiders are playoff bound.
Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend. Inside of a dog it's too dark to read. - Groucho Marx
My favorite part about a loss like this
Is the people that run over to their computers after it’s over to call for the firing of every player and coach and advocate moving the team out of the city because they’ll never be good again.
I guess those people have never had a terrible, horrible, no good, very bad day. Good teams have days like this, too. Sometimes their natural talent allows them to sneak away with a win. Other times they’re not so lucky—ask Philadelphia fans how they feel about the Raiders.
Imagine if you had a terrible day at work. Your alarm didn’t go off, the shower wouldn’t run hot water, you burnt your toast and spilled your coffee on your new pants, you got to work late, your computer had a virus, and when it was time for the big presentation, you realized that you left all of your papers back at home. What if your boss called you in to his office at the end of the day and said, “I know it wasn’t long ago that I was talking about how you’d replace me as manager someday, but that was the worst performance I’ve ever seen. I’m going to ignore all of your prior successes and any promise you may have to become better and fire you here and now.”
by Soria's Unibrow on Oct 25, 2009 6:25 PM CDT reply actions
Excellent book reference
I saw it the other day at a bookstore.
Desperately hoping for Desperate Measures
by averagegatsby on Oct 25, 2009 6:37 PM CDT up reply actions
Really?
He has coached this team for 6 games, for a team that is nearly completely devoid of talent thanks to the previous regime
Desperately hoping for Desperate Measures
by averagegatsby on Oct 25, 2009 6:38 PM CDT up reply actions
If I am repeating an earlier post, my apologies...
The picture of Haley walking off the field says a lot about his calling. He looks like he doesn’t have a clue what to do next. I’m not a Croyle fan, but let him have a shot since Cassel isn’t producing. I’m aware the lack of an O-line is a major problem, but see if Croyle is part of the “right 53” game plan in action.
If part of the reason Cassel plays after weekly failures is pressure from Pioli, he needs to be told to stick to team operations and let player personnel be left up to the coaching staff. All it seems Pioli wants to do is pick up any and every cast off from the Patriots to mirror their team. If he’s that fond of working with New England personnel, let him go back east to Foxboro.
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