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Grading The Chiefs

From the FanPosts. Good conversation starter while Joel and I get some stories together for today. -Chris

I thought I would do something fun for this weekend since I am bored. The wife is working, the baby is sleeping and I am pumped up for some Chiefs football! I am going to grade the Chiefs players and show their stats. Give some of my insight on what I’ve seen so far this year. I won’t grade all of our Chiefs, just our main players.

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Offense

Matt Cassel -QB

Passing:  93 completions out of 162 attempts for 897 yards. 7 touchdowns and 2 interceptions. 57.4 completion percentage. 19 sacks.

Rushing: 21 attempts for 102 yards. 4.9 yards per attempt

Final Grade: B+

My Take: He has been pretty consistent. When he has time he is one of the best in the league. Unfortunately he doesn’t get too much time so that is why his ability to run is so great for us. He has show to be our leader. He doesn’t turn the ball over that much and is pretty smart with the ball.

Larry Johnson –RB

Rushing: 116 attempts for 309 yards for a 2.7 yards per carry average. No touchdowns.

Receiving: 11 receptions for 69 yards.

Final Grade: D-

My Take: I like most people think he has been a disappointment this year. He has shown some potential on a couple of runs but sadly he has fallen short this year. Our lack of run puts too much pressure on our QB. I think He’ll get better as the season goes on but he won’t ever put up numbers like he used to.

Jamaal Charles –RB

Rushing: 19 attempts for 83 yards for a 4.4 yards per carry average. No Touchdowns.

Receiving: 13 receptions for 119 yards.

Returning: 17 returns for 410 yards. No touchdowns. 53 yards is his longest return this year.

Final Grade: C+

My Take: Has done pretty much what is asked of him this year. Has made some pretty good plays but sadly has made some pretty bad plays. Shows some promise in returning if you take away his big fumble against the Giants. We should get him more involved in the running and receiving game.

Dwayne Bowe –WR

Receiving: 21 receptions for 290 yards and 3 touchdowns.

Final Grade: A-

My Take: He is the most talented offensive player on our team. Argue if you want but numbers don’t lie. He has done a lot better on drops this year thanks to Haley. If Cassel had more time then Bowe would have more looks and receptions. I hope that Cassel to Bowe becomes a force to be reckoned with.

Mark Bradley –WR

Receiving: 15 receptions for 177 yards and 1 touchdown.

Rushing:  2 attempts for 20 yards for a 10.0 yards per carry average. No Touchdowns.

Passing: 1 completion out of 1 attempt for 26 yards. No Touchdowns.

Final Grade: A-

My Take: Wow, he can do it all. Sadly, he isn’t used that much. I think he is a very underrated player. Hopefully, he will get more looks on the weeks to come.

Bobby Wade –WR

Receiving: 17 receptions for 160 yards and 2 touchdowns.

Rushing: 1 attempts for 3 yards for a 3.0 yards per carry average. No Touchdowns.

Returning: 15 punt returns for 119 yards. No Touchdowns.

Final Grade: B

My Take: He came in and learned our system quick. Hasn’t done too much on punt returns but has been pretty solid in our receiving game. I think our receiving core is vastly underrated.

Sean Ryan –TE

Receiving: 14 receptions for 135 yards and 2 touchdowns.

Final Grade: C+

My Take: You can’t replace the best Tight End to ever play the game. Ryan has been pretty good in our receiving game but sadly he couldn’t block a punter coming for the quarterback much less a defensive end or linebacker.



Defense

Mike Brown –Safety

Defensive Stats: 30 tackles and 1 sack. A fumble recovery for four yards gained.

Final Grade: C

My Take: He is our tackle leader along with Demorrio Williams. He can be a force but his angles our just horrible and that is why so many big plays are going against us. He works on his angles then our defense will be a ton better.

Mike Vrable –Linebacker

Defensive Stats: 23 tackles and 1 sack with 1 forced fumble. 3 passes defended and 1 fumble recovery.

Offensive stats: 1 reception for 1 yard for a touchdown.

Final Grade: A+

My Take: Along with Flowers he is our best defensive player. It amazes me that being 34 years old that he can still be a force at his position. He brings a leadership that is badly needed for our young defensive unit. I hope Vrable comes back next year. I love his play and hopefully, he stays healthy all season long.

Brandon Flowers –Cornerback

Defensive Stats: 16 tackles and 6 passes defended. 2 interceptions for 38 yards.

Final Grade: A

My Take: He missed a couple of key interceptions but already in his young career QB’s are afraid to throw at him. He is a pretty good tackler and has good awareness.

Tamba Hali –Linebacker

Defensive Stats: 13 tackles and 3 sacks. 1 pass defended and 2 forced fumbles. 1 safety!

Final Grade: A

My Take: He has stepped up and shown he can switch to a linebacker. I would love to see him get more tackles though. When he tackles the QB he has shown he can force the fumble. His motor keeps on running and I love that.

Derrick Johnson –Linebacker

Defensive Stats: 7 tackles with 1 interception for 70 yards. 1 pass defended and 1 sack.

Final Grade: B

My Take: When he is in the game he can make the big plays. If he can show the coach that he has the motor to find the ball every play then maybe he can get out of the doghouse. Our linebacker core are underrated but aren’t the best in coverage. Got to love me some Vrable, Mays, Williams, Hali, and Johnson



Kicking

Ryan Succop –Kicker

Kicking Stats: 9 field goals made out of 10 attended.  Long-53 yards. 9 extra points made out of 9 attempted.

Final Grade: A+

My Take: He is a fan favorite already and for good reason. He has shown he can make long field goals. He has shown he can kick in unfavorable weather.

Dustin Colquitt –Punter

Punting Stats: 41 punts for 1805 yards. Long-64 yards. 44 yards per punt average.

Final Grade: A+

My Take: He is one of the best punters in the NFL. He has great hang time and can get the ball down the field. It is great to have good the other team bad field position.

 

Conclusion: Our team is vastly underrated and for good reason; we just can't finish games. If our offensive line gave Cassel more time then we would put up huge numbers. If our defensive players stopped the big plays then our defensive would be at the top of the league. Our special team is just great. We are getting better everyweek and it is showing. The "rough" part of our schedule is done with so hopefully we can manage some wins in the near future.

Poll
Who has been the best for the Chiefs?
Our Offense
16 votes
Our Defense
319 votes
Our Special Teams
765 votes

1100 votes | Poll has closed

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just voted and looks like everyone thinks special teams is the best part of aur team. i agree. we definatly need to bring our O and our D up to speed. i know ( insert dead horse here) but i do belive that our numbers are deciving as far as the receving core goes. its really our running game that is killing our O. ( horse here as well) . but with a few well timed plays i think we can beat the chargers if our guys just stay focused. but that has been the pattern for the whole season.

by reddad4 on Oct 24, 2009 7:50 AM CDT reply actions  

Nice job.

My biggest disagreement is with Bradley and Wade. I think Wade had been much better on offense than Bradley. Wades punt returning has been meh, but at least he doesn’t look like he is going to miss catching the punt every time.

by saskwatch on Oct 24, 2009 9:25 AM CDT reply actions  

I agree with Larry's grade.

But where I think he deserves some credit is in blocking blitzers. He used to be awful at this, but IMO has reaaly done a pretty good job this year and has made a few key blitz pickups that have resulted in some of our biggest plays.

by saskwatch on Oct 24, 2009 9:27 AM CDT reply actions  

agreed

It’s been one of the most frustrating things about him in the past and I give him credit for working on it.

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by Big Chief on Oct 24, 2009 10:29 AM CDT up reply actions  

i don't understand

why everyone gives Cassel a pass and kills LJ. Cassel has had enough time to make plays. If you remove the plays where LJ has 2 or 3 people hitting him in the backfield his yards per carry average is much higher. And to give Charles a passing grade is ridiculous.

Predictions for 2009:

LJ runs for 1800 yards
Bowe in the pro bowl
Chiefs D finishes in the top 10 in points allowed
Chiefs 10-6

by bonesjackson on Oct 24, 2009 9:31 AM CDT reply actions  

Because his completion % and TD:Interception ratios are very good

despite the pressure he’s been under. The only thing good about LJs stats is that he hasn’t fumbled. But I think most fans are hoping that the LJ of last week is just a start and better games are coming.

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by Big Chief on Oct 24, 2009 9:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

His completion % is not good

Unless you are comparing him to Jamarcus Russell. At best, Matt is a slight improvement over what Thigpen was after he took over as the full time starter. But even that isn’t true since Thigpen had a better completion %, more yards per game, more yards per pass, and less sacks behind an even worse O-Line. Again I am not killing Matt just saying that he hasn’t performed well even considering the line problems.

Predictions for 2009:

LJ runs for 1800 yards
Bowe in the pro bowl
Chiefs D finishes in the top 10 in points allowed
Chiefs 10-6

by bonesjackson on Oct 24, 2009 10:07 AM CDT up reply actions  

You went there?

Really Thigpen, that’s what you came up with? Your still arguing for a player that’s no longer on the team and was going to be a back-up if he was? Really?

is it me? or isn't about time the Lamar Hunt trophy belonged to His team?

I’m a Chiefs fan Dammit and I’m damn proud of it!

by KC Fanatic on Oct 24, 2009 10:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

Not arguing for him

Just making a point about Matt. He has not been much of an upgrade so I don’t see how he could be graded any better than incomplete.

Predictions for 2009:

LJ runs for 1800 yards
Bowe in the pro bowl
Chiefs D finishes in the top 10 in points allowed
Chiefs 10-6

by bonesjackson on Oct 24, 2009 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

I wouldn't be so harsh on Cassel. But I wouldn't be so harsh on Thiggie, either.

I’d be more harsh on Pioli ‘n’ Haley for not achieving significant improvement on O-Line, which was the biggest weakness on offense, last year. I think Cassel’s a better pure passer than Thigpen, but I’m very hesitant to evaluate any QB on an incomplete team. About all you can say is that it’s been tough for KC QBs to get ANYthing done since Roaf and Shields left the fold.

Cassel’s stats are meaningless, for the most part, although he’s kept his INT rate down. Some say he holds the ball too long. I think he just has the mental discipline to see where it’s going before uncorkin’ it. QBs can look great just throwing on general principle (coverage read and timing) if they can count on their receivers being where they’re supposed to be… So Cassel might miss a few opportunities, but he’s not hurting his team.

I think QB is very important and on the other side of the ball, LB is very important. But you don’t spend big coin on either position, until you set the table for ‘em, by which time, you’re a genius, because that no-name guy you nabbed in the 4th or 5th round suddenly becomes a Pro Bowler. And if the d- or o-line have achieved stability, and those positions are succeeding, it’s time to look for a star LB/QB. They can play with confidence and have fewer unpleasant experiences with enemy linemen.

No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.

by hmills110 on Oct 24, 2009 8:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

Apples and Oranges

If you put Cassel in the Arrowspread, he would fluorish too. That whole scheme was designed to protect the QB, even with a horrible O-line. You put Thigpen in the current offense and he wouldn’t have a clue what to do.

The correct question would be, then why aren’t we running the Arrowspread anymore? But, the fact is that once defenses made their halftime adjustments, the Arrowspread was no longer effective and we would get shut down. Currently, we are playing a ball control offense but, once the personnel are more accustomed to it, I think Haley will open things up more and we will see much better production from Cassel.

I have heard a LOT of people say that they aren’t impressed with Cassel and I understand but, this is a BRAND NEW offense that was installed 2 weeks before the first game so, it will naturally take a while. I think by the end of this season, we will see a much more productive passing game than we currently have.

by Chiefsfan1970 on Oct 24, 2009 10:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Cassel has enough time?

I’m not seeing that. Sometimes he does but it’s rare. How many hurries, hits, and sacks does the guy have? I tend to agree with the premise that if our OL was worth anything, our receivers would be seen as better, maybe even adequate. But, I do think they need to improve also. It seems like they could be better at getting open. Bradley needs to be smarter and tougher – still pissed at him for not getting 1st downs twice in Baltimore.

Air Cassel - approved for takeoff

by kabrink on Oct 24, 2009 9:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yes

He does on occasion. He takes more sacks than necessary (he did the same thing last year leading the league in sacks despite being behind a good line) and doesn’ t make plays when there is time. I am not saying we kill Cassel but LJ is getting hit by multiple people in the backfield on at least one out of every 3 carries. Cassel is getting better protection than LJ is getting run blocking.

Predictions for 2009:

LJ runs for 1800 yards
Bowe in the pro bowl
Chiefs D finishes in the top 10 in points allowed
Chiefs 10-6

by bonesjackson on Oct 24, 2009 9:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

Better? Like a 44% F, rather than a 43% F?

Cassel is getting better protection than LJ is getting run blocking.

New England’s O-Line did not protect Cassel very well. He had better perimeter players to go to, but he also got chased out of where the pocket was supposed to be, and, like Thigpen, he was an effective and tough runner.

No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.

by hmills110 on Oct 24, 2009 8:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

I agree.

I think bones’s criticism is valid, but poor line play can be a big part of that. I think Cassel knows that his only chance at making a completion is to hold on beyond all prudence or common sense, to give his receivers time to uncover. I worry that playing under these conditions will affect his development, and if he’ll really be the QB of the future. When/if the line is fixed, Brodie or somebody might steal the job out from under him.

One thing for sure is Cassel’s being well-paid to take those beatings. If I were he, I’d’ve told ’em to take $5 million a year off the top and go after the BEST O-Line FAs available in February!

No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.

by hmills110 on Oct 24, 2009 9:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

I give them both a pass

no one can really perform without help up front. It is like trying to build the foundation of your house with tooth picks.

I think maybe LJ has lost a step but I think if he had a line he would be doing fine.

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by Patrick Allen on Oct 24, 2009 9:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

+1 for LJ

He is more complete and has turned into a team player. I’m very pleased with him. As our O-Line and TE blocking improves, so will LJs numbers. I don’t fault him at all. He is 100% better at blocking and has done well receiving. Yes he is slower, but more reliable.

Charles can be good, but fumbles are not acceptable. Even if you runs for 100+ per game, if he fumbles 2 or three times, that will most likely lead to two or three scores against us and a potential loss.

by TXChiefan on Oct 24, 2009 9:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

I don't like Charles's hands/eyes for KR.

But he hasn’t been a fumbler on regular offense, imo.

LJ runs with much better balance and power. Prob’ly makes him the better back with linemen all up in the RBs’ faces, ‘n’ all.

No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.

by hmills110 on Oct 24, 2009 9:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Don't See It..

How can you stake the claim that LJ is slower? To me, he looks faster out there. He lost weight and added more muscle to his frame. When he turned that corner last week, he kicked in the turbo booster and ran over 10 yards. I think the LJ of last year might have gotten about 5 yards off that play. He’s faster, but his mentality does not enable him to try to make something happen. IMO, his main problem is that if the hole isn’t available, he’s going to try to run through it anyways, taking out anybody in his path. Either that or falling down…

Put this in your pipe and smoke it:
1. Chiefs will be at least 8-8 and vie for division champs
2. DJ will break out and finally have his year
3. LJ returns to form
4. DBowe drops will reduce

by kcchiefsfan72 on Oct 24, 2009 10:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agree

He can make an impact, especially at the end of the game when we’re trying to run out the clock (if we’re ahead). I look for the O-Line to continue to get better, making LJ & Cassel better…

I also think that LJ is one of those backs who needs carries. He gets better and better the more carries he gets in a game. I think we saw a bit of that last weekend…

"Every day is an evaluation and if you’re not out there how can we depend on you? If you’re out there and you don’t know what to do, how can we depend on you?" Accountability -- Haley-style...

by Chief_Elmo on Oct 24, 2009 10:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

+1!

I agree with bones jackson. And would had that Cassel seems tentative at times – almost indecisive.

by chiefsfan62 on Oct 24, 2009 12:17 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Thank you

I’m glad somebody else is with Me. LJ ran well last week and if he had blocking like that all the time we would be talking about his resurgence right now rather than his terrible stats.

Charles sucks, that’s all there is to it. He is a good bullet on the punt team but can’t hold onto the ball in any othe capacity. The only reason he has a good average is because he gets the ball on 3rd and forever on draw plays.

Cassel has done fine IMO. His poor completion % is due to his lack of time from his protection and also his relative newness to the offensive scheme. He hasn’t been making mistakes which has kept us in about every game. Just think if he wasn’t so poised under pressure…we would have gotten demolished by some of the teams we have played. Instead he has kept it conservative and taken what the defense gives him. Occasionally he makes a great pass and makes Me wonder what could be if he had more time from his line.

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by bigbe on Oct 24, 2009 7:29 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Agree on Charles BIGTIME!!!

I think Jamal Charles is the biggest disappointment of the season. I expected him to break out in a big way and he has shown NOTHING!!!

I’m ready to see Savage become active again.

by Chiefsfan1970 on Oct 24, 2009 10:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

Bradley with an A????

The guy has 15 receptions, has been targeted 28 times, and has dropped more balls than a 13 yr old boys choir… how does that warrant an A?

 Anybody know how to find out how many passes he (and our team) has dropped???

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by Matt in KC on Oct 24, 2009 9:50 AM CDT reply actions  

No votes for the Offense

And I’m not surprised. I don’t think we have yet to see what the offense can do, if and when the offensive line can ever give Cassel time, and open a hole for the running backs then maybe we can see what the offense can do.

Special teams of coarse are the favorite, How can they not be, they are the only ones we have any faith in to score points. We are sick of the negative plays and the defense giving up big plays that seem to find a way to lose the game.

The defense while improved over last season still has a knack for giving up 3 or 4 big plays a game that end up costing the Chiefs a win. Piss Poor tackling has to be addressed, I have a problem when they can hole a team for most of the game then when it is close to the end they can’t seem to wrap anyone up or make a stop.

What the Chiefs really need is some consistency no more negative plays, no more one armed missed tackles or going for the big hit and missing. and By God would Someone Anyone save Cassel!!!, the boy is going to end up not just on the IR list but the Damn ICU. Make a Block without a false start.

is it me? or isn't about time the Lamar Hunt trophy belonged to His team?

I’m a Chiefs fan Dammit and I’m damn proud of it!

by KC Fanatic on Oct 24, 2009 9:53 AM CDT reply actions  

One-Armed Missed Tackles?

It wasn’t me, it was the one-armed man…

Put this in your pipe and smoke it:
1. Chiefs will be at least 8-8 and vie for division champs
2. DJ will break out and finally have his year
3. LJ returns to form
4. DBowe drops will reduce

by kcchiefsfan72 on Oct 24, 2009 10:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Johnson's running...

I know Johnson is running shitty BUT I do think it doesn’t help that the line doesn’t help. He’s not as fast to get outside which is why I think they need to cut their losses and put Jamal Charles at starting position and see what HE can do.

by javim100 on Oct 24, 2009 9:55 AM CDT reply actions  

Bowe hasnt been good AT ALL this year...

Dont see how anyone can argue that. He drops half the balls thrown his way in clutch situations and it pisses me off so bad

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by SuperTurtle on Oct 24, 2009 9:58 AM CDT reply actions  

Are you watching last years games?

Bowe has caught every catchable pass thrown his way this season. Most of the missed passes are the ones that are out of reach mainly because the QB is either getting hit or about to get hit and has to throw it away.

is it me? or isn't about time the Lamar Hunt trophy belonged to His team?

I’m a Chiefs fan Dammit and I’m damn proud of it!

by KC Fanatic on Oct 24, 2009 10:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

Ive seen at LEAST 4 passes go through his hands.

This year on 3rd down. Those were catchable.

Before you judge a man, walk a mile in his shoes; after that, who cares?! He's a mile away and you've got his shoes!

by SuperTurtle on Oct 24, 2009 10:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

He had two big drops last week.

He has been okay, but I (and I think the staff) are expecting more from Bowe.

by saskwatch on Oct 24, 2009 10:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

+1

Not sure that I’d give Bowe an A-. I’m with BigFoot on this one. I think he’s been passable, but not quite up to expectations. I’m especially concerned that he’s not getting alot of separation, or getting involved until well into our games. Not sure if that’s his fault, could be some game planning there…

Love to see more quick slants and hooks early in the game to take advantage of his size and physical attributes.

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by Chief_Elmo on Oct 24, 2009 10:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

very true

Not sure if it is a play calling thing or if He is having trouble getting that separation, But something needs to improve on that part.

is it me? or isn't about time the Lamar Hunt trophy belonged to His team?

I’m a Chiefs fan Dammit and I’m damn proud of it!

by KC Fanatic on Oct 24, 2009 10:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

on play calling and separation

These are also both heavily influenced by, you guessed it, a shitty OL. Haley can’t call any plays that need development time and Bowe isn’t getting separation in the timeframe that Cassel has available.

Air Cassel - approved for takeoff

by kabrink on Oct 24, 2009 1:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

I disagree

with

Bowe has caught every catchable pass thrown his way this season
. I am a Bowe supporter but he has had a number of passes right on his hands that he plunked. He can definitely improve and needs to. He had 1 or 2 of these just last week.

Air Cassel - approved for takeoff

by kabrink on Oct 24, 2009 1:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

I stand corrected

I can only see Chiefs games online and last week no site was showing the game. I did not know where the passes were only that Len said they looked to be “off”.

is it me? or isn't about time the Lamar Hunt trophy belonged to His team?

I’m a Chiefs fan Dammit and I’m damn proud of it!

by KC Fanatic on Oct 24, 2009 2:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agree with kabrink.

Bowe dropped 2 easy ones last week that were 3rd down conversions. He HAS to make those plays.

As far as the lack of separation goes, Bowe doesn’t need a lot of separation to make a play. He is NOT a speed receiver. You just throw it up and let him go get it. As bad as he can be on the easy catches, he can be stellar when it comes to making the circus catches.

by Chiefsfan1970 on Oct 24, 2009 10:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

Quick Thoughts.

In regards to the comment about Bowe dropping balls. I’ve noticed four so far, so there could be a few more. That’s more than I’d like for sure, but not nearly as bad as some people seem to make it out to be, or as bad as it was.

As for the LJ and Cassel notes, I personally am afraid they have the same problem. Most of the time LJ isn’t getting hit by multiple tacklers at or behind the LoS, Cassel is before anything can develop. We’re seeing improvement (at least last week, but that was the Skins), but the line is still killing us.

The thing that drives me craziest on the offense right now is how many passes we have start 3+ yards behind the LoS. I know occassionally that’s a good thing, but it seems like every second or third pass is like that. Now, I don’t know if that’s a knock on the recievers for their positioning or the line in making them have to drop back in order to get open fast enough for Cassel to save his own life by tossing it to them, but I think it needs to stop and quickly.

I’m optimistic about the D and hope it keeps progressing. We’re starting to see far fewer of the dumb mistakes that cost us and more of the “Wow” plays. I can’t describe how jazzed I was about the safety this week. Seeing Dorsey and Hali pull that (particularly re-watching it and realizing how it developed) gave me flashes (small, I’m not getting too excited yet) of nostalgia of the old 58/90 pairing. I pray they develop even half that much skill, and things will be scary.

I agree with you guys on the special teams as well. Save a few blunders (fumbles and unneccessary touchbacks) they’re looking pretty good. I’m still waiting for a truely decent return or runback though. Other than that, it’s hard to find ways to make me happier about it.

by Archyrr on Oct 24, 2009 10:44 AM CDT reply actions  

still waiting for a truely decent return or runback though

I’m happy enough when they don’t fumble it.

Air Cassel - approved for takeoff

by kabrink on Oct 24, 2009 1:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

I’d bump up LJ some. he’s not the guy he was but he doesnt have any running lanes.

I’d drop tamba toa B-. he’s playing as well as he can, but he’s always late. if he gets to the pocket a second sooner his sack total doubles.

Also what about the lines? why no grades?

Oline D-
D line C

and now we are back to our safety leading the team in tackles. that is bad news.

by SillyHatDay on Oct 24, 2009 11:07 AM CDT reply actions  

Tamba is slow at times, but he is also the only one bringing consistent pressure so he has an LT maybe TE/RB also. In his first year after switching from an LDE. I like his grade, as well as I like his play.

Brown is leading the team with tackles but not for the exact same reason as past years. It’s not so many running plays that get broken into the secondary as last year the safeties are cleaning up a lot of receivers. Our D has stopped the run, and without getting quick pressure opposing QB’s have torn us apart.

by BAMFSpecialOps on Oct 24, 2009 2:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

My opinion.

I disagree with alot of these grades for a variety of reasons.

First of all, the lowest grade is a D- on LJ, and every other player has ATLEAST a C.

So that leads me to believe we have players who are playing atleast average. But thats hardly the case and our 1 win shows that.

Cassel hasnt been pretty consistant. He’s doing good not turning the ball over but sometimes, when given time to pass, he still doesnt complete the pass. Dont get me wrong..I like Cassel..but I’m not sporting the red sunglasses either. Cassel needs to do a better job of delivering the pass. He’s taking more hits than any QB in the league right now, but that doesnt mean he has a free pass to over throw the ball as much as he does. I think Cassel should have a C at best. Because as of right now, hes just average. 7TD’s to 2 INT’s is good but a 57% completion percentage and only 897 yards on 93 completions isnt so great either.

As for the running backs, I think its wrong to give Charles a higher grade than LJ just because he has a higher average. Most times, the change of pace back is going to have a higher average, but that doesnt mean hes the better back. He fumbles the ball too much and has alot less touches than LJ does. I think both of them have been bad and neither of them deserves more than a D.

The “numbers dont lie” for D Bowe is right. But the numbers arent good as you are implying. In 5 games played, he’s had 1 100 yard game. That 100 yard game SHOULD have been a monster 150+ yard game if he makes the easy catches that he dropped. 290 yards in 5 games is not good anyway you look at it. 58 yards per game (his current pace) wouldnt even break 1000 yards. His .6 TD’s per game would get him nearly 10 TD’s at the end of the season which isnt too shabby. Neither is 926 yards but thats nothing to give him an A+ for. I think he gets no more than a B, maybe even no more than a B-.

Bradley. Wow. Bradley gets an A-, while Wade gets a B. That makes no sense to me in any way you look at it. Neither of them get more than a C, and I think Wade gets the nod considering hes the only punt returner we have who wont drop the punt.

I DO agree with Sean Ryan. I think you hit the nail right on the head with him.

I’m not even going to touch the defense. You gave all but 2 guys A’s, yet we have 1 of the worst defenses in the league. Youre out of your mind. Even though its an improvement over last year, we only have 9 sacks in 6 games. We’re on pace for 24 sacks, which is more than double what we had last year, but still no good. 24 sacks was a tie for 28th in the league last year. Hell, the winless Lions had 30 sacks last year. Our best players on D deserve nothing more than a B- at best. NOBODY should have an A on defense. Tamba, IMO, has been our best defensive player and he probably deserves a B.

I guess your grades are just optimistic and you left out the bad parts. Every player on the OL deserves an F. Everyone on the DL deserves..ehh…id say a C- except Dorsey probably deserves a B.

by Petey14 on Oct 24, 2009 6:02 PM CDT reply actions  

But

its a great write up. Just a little too home-y for me. I’m optimistic too and I think we’re the better of the worst teams in the league, but I dont think we’re any better than average at this point.

by Petey14 on Oct 24, 2009 6:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks.

I agree maybe a little bit too homerish…Certian parts of our team is better than average. We just aren’t putting all the pieces together yet.

The Chiefs were actually good the last time Kenny Smith has played in a game. Gives you an idea of how long ago that was. lol

by Chiefsfan85 on Oct 24, 2009 6:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

yes

vrable has lost a step…but caught a touchdown we can give him a b…same for flowers… he has missed some easy tackles. dj gets a b for getting it done on his limited playing time but at least our kickers are BAD ASSESS

For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction....in other words Karma is a M______F_____

by Crunk4Cheifs on Oct 24, 2009 8:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

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