Chiefs QB Matt Cassel Still Not Throwing Deep

by Joel Thorman on Oct 22, 2009 11:27 AM CDT in 2009 Kansas City Chiefs Campaign

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The Kansas City Chiefs haven't exactly been passing juggernauts thus far in the 2009 season. They're ranked 23rd in attempts and 27th in yards with a measly 970 yards passing over six games. Not exactly intimidating, huh?

As you can see in the chart above, they don't pass the ball very deep and even when they do their success rate is inconsistent. These numbers are a little surprising to me considering how often the Chiefs are put in third and long situations.

The Chiefs have had 85 third down attempts and passed the ball 70 times. 48 of those attempts have been longer than six yards, which is a time the team could do deep. They have successfully converted only eight of those attempts.

These numbers jive with a similar statistical analysis we did earlier in the season.

Some might argue that the Chiefs don't have the offensive personnel to go deep more often. That may be true, but it should be noted that these numbers aren't much different from Cassel's numbers with the Patriots numbers last season, and the Patriots definitely have the personnel to go deep.

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Matt Cassel is good

At times very good. But for some reason I’ll never take him legitimately as a franchise QB. Simiarly to how I perceived Trent Green, just another Chiefs “fill in” for X amount of years.

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by KansasCityShuffle on Oct 22, 2009 11:31 AM CDT reply actions

Similarly*

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by KansasCityShuffle on Oct 22, 2009 11:32 AM CDT up reply actions

I don't see him that way.

I look at Cassel as a young guy with tons of upside. I think he will only get better over time in the new system and, as he progresses along with the rest of the offense, he will be able (allowed) to take more shots down the field. I think of Cassel as “the franchise QB of the future” I don’t think he is quite there yet but, I do think he’ll get there.

Similar to if we had drafted a young QB except, we didn’t have to spend a 1st round pick to get him and he has a LOT more experience under his belt as well as 4 years playing behind Tom Brady. It’s a win-win with Cassel…That kid is freakin TOUGH too.

by Chiefsfan1970 on Oct 22, 2009 12:07 PM CDT up reply actions

+1

by nycchief on Oct 22, 2009 12:12 PM CDT up reply actions

I was inclined to agree with KC Shuffle

but now that I think more about it, I believe Cassel could turn out to be a good quarterback for the next 10-11 years if he stays healthy. Elway was 27 when he went to his first SB, & was about 37(?) when he finally won one.

It seems that QBs generally start hitting their stride in their late 20s to early 30s. Cassel may take a bit longer to reach his full potential due to the late start, but he could realistically become a top-10 QB for a 5-7 year window.

by jmcgoblue on Oct 22, 2009 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions

I don't know

He’s going to get himself killed someday holding onto the ball too long, and his arm strength isn’t all that impressive.

He’d kill in a west coast offense if he got rid of the ball quicker, but I don’t think he’s really made to excel in Haley’s type of offense.

by mcclanahanman on Oct 22, 2009 1:09 PM CDT up reply actions

That concerns me too

Hopefully experience will give him a better feel of when to get rid of the ball.

by jmcgoblue on Oct 22, 2009 1:16 PM CDT up reply actions

I agree 100%

He’s still growing, so is the team. Exactly how Matt Schaub was developed. At first it was very iffy, then it was injuries, now he’s spreading the ball around like a franchise qb.

by TonylovesKC on Oct 22, 2009 5:31 PM CDT up reply actions

Just a "FILL IN" ?

With that view point Joe Mantana was just a fill in for Steve Young. I kinda recall that Joe finished his years somewhere else other than San Fran. Based on your idealogy, Joe Montana was not a franchise quarterback. Trent Green could have if Carl and Herm hadn’t give up on him wanting to go young. Based on your statement I bet you was on the Mark Sanchez bandwagon too. What he have… 5 int’s last week and he was and is touted as a franchise quarterback? Franchise QB’s take time to develop! It didn’t happen to Elway, Manning or Marino overnight ! Their teams stuck with them thru thick and thin and the long haul!

by CJ-in-2018 on Oct 22, 2009 12:27 PM CDT up reply actions

Nah

Marino just threw more td’s than ints his rookie year, and set records for most td’s in a season and most passing yards, Matt Ryan and Ben Rothlisberger also had good rookie seasons, so did Flacco.

Comparing Cassel to Montana, sorry Joe threw the ball when he was supposed to, not going down screaming for dear life clutching the football. He knew when to throw it, who to throw it to and when to throw it away, didn’t take a lot of unneccessary sacks.

Now if you want to make comparisons of QB’s that may not deserve it Thigpen reminded me of Young, don’t know if you remember Young when he played in Tampa, scramble first throw second, and the ball might get to the right target, it might look pretty it might not. It took a good line, good recievers and a lot of patience to calm him down and get him in the mind set to be a HOF QB.

Trent Green was washed up the year before Herm and Carl gave up on him, his confidence was blown, he never played a meaningful snap after leaving KC.

I’ve given Cassel time to show he was the quarterback of the future, but he’s a #3 on most teams, the patriots offense made him look worth a second round draft pick.

Sanchez on the other hand is a rookie, he’s struggling yes, but he has shown he can make all the right throws, at least one of those picks he threw was from a tip off of Braylon Edwards, I know 2 of them were the recievers fault.

Cassel doesn’t make many mistakes throwing the ball, he doesn’t take a lot of chances down the field. He’s accurate, but it’s hard not to be accurate when you’re throwing the ball less than 10 yards down the field. He’s a Marty Schottenheimer type quarterback in the mold of Steve Bono. Except for the fact that he holds the ball too long and takes a lot of sacks he shouldn’t. We overpaid for Cassel, we overpaid Cassel, we’ll live with Cassel, hopefully he’ll shape up, but in my mind he’s holding the offense back, a quarterback with a quick release that made quick reads over the course of this season we’d be 3-3.

by mcclanahanman on Oct 22, 2009 1:29 PM CDT up reply actions

Marino set the record for yards and td's in a season in his 2nd season

by mcclanahanman on Oct 22, 2009 1:30 PM CDT up reply actions

I think you are dead wrong but...

Only time will tell.

by Chiefsfan1970 on Oct 22, 2009 1:36 PM CDT up reply actions

I hope I am dead wrong

He just doesn’t instill confidence in me.

by mcclanahanman on Oct 22, 2009 1:37 PM CDT up reply actions

How do you have time to throw downfield in only 1-1/2 seconds to throw ?

There is no pocket to step up in because Rudy is getting blown-up every play ? How can you place having 1-1/2 seconds on Cassels shoulders. Receivers can not get into deep routes in this time frame. Steve Young = Thigpen….haha. Steve Young had 3 seconds to throw….Thigpen had 1-1/2 !
Franchise QB’s are dreamed of but not realized until they walk away from the game ! Trent Green could’ve been if not for injuries ! Who currently holds KC’s passing records ???

by CJ-in-2018 on Oct 22, 2009 4:46 PM CDT up reply actions

I never said Young = Thigpen

and I guess you never saw Young play for Tampa…………he didn’t always look like a HOF quarterback, San Fran fans actually wanted to start Bono over him, when Montana went down.

I’ve seen plays where Cassel had time 3+ seconds and he was looking at the pass rush instead of his receivers then took the sack when he finally looked down field.

Rudy and Goff aren’t getting blown up every play it just seems like it, the OL shopping list for this team is long next year no doubt about that, but there are plays where Cassel has time.

As far as Green being a Franchise quarterback, he wasn’t, he was a product of a high powered offense, he never looked great in any other stop he made before coming to KC. Montana, Favre, Unitas, Marino, Elway all would have been in the HOF in almost any offense, can you say the same thing about Green?

Len Dawson still holds most major records for Kansas City including Super Bowl wins and league champoinship wins.

by mcclanahanman on Oct 22, 2009 7:02 PM CDT up reply actions

and this claim

I’ve seen plays where Cassel had time 3+ seconds and he was looking at the pass rush instead of his receivers then took the sack when he finally looked down field.

If you woke up every morning, got dressed, walked out of your front door and I punched you in the face EVERY TIME, you can’t tell me you would continue walking out that front door every morning not looking for some fat jerk to do it again. Matt Cassel spends more time on his back than… well, no that is too easy. But I can’t fault the guy if almost EVERY time he sees the football it is escorting 3-11 large men wanting to do him harm, and the 2 times a game he has a few seconds he is a little gun-shy…

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by mugglemage on Oct 23, 2009 9:44 AM CDT up reply actions

LOL

I don’t know how to use formatting.

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by mugglemage on Oct 23, 2009 9:44 AM CDT up reply actions

Sorry I'd be punching back the first day

by mcclanahanman on Oct 23, 2009 6:07 PM CDT up reply actions

OK let's see

Joe Montana, Mark Sanchez, Steve Young, heck Trent Green had a line to block for them. Let’s do a little experiment. Let’s see how many quarterbacks can take the snap, drop back, see the unstoppable rebel force that is the opposing d-line bearing down on them like German Panzer tanks overrunning an injured kitten/ puppy compound, and see how many times they throw it true. Saying Matt Cassel is overpaid and a bust and is holding our offensive line back is the same thing as hiring an employee, shaking his hand, turning around and then writing him up for being lazy because he hasn’t closed the big account yet, all before the interview is even over.

Give him some time, give him a line, see what he can do.

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by mugglemage on Oct 23, 2009 9:40 AM CDT up reply actions

OK lets go with Elway...........

Didn’t always have the best line, there’s a few years it was horrible and he threw for over 3,500 yards, Dave Kreig in Seattle had a suspect line and still was a more than serviceable quarterback.

We picked up Erik Kramer or Scott Mitchell with Steve Walsh’s arm……… I’m sorry there are better quarterbacks out there that would have come cheaper. I bet Tommy Maddux could beat what Cassel is doing.

by mcclanahanman on Oct 23, 2009 6:12 PM CDT up reply actions

How dare you accuse me

of being on the Mark Sanchez bandwagon. Somebody get this guy outta here

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by KansasCityShuffle on Oct 22, 2009 3:57 PM CDT up reply actions

Get "CJ Outta Here ?"

by CJ-in-2018 on Oct 22, 2009 4:30 PM CDT up reply actions

Sorry "KCS" you got my blood boiling saying Trent Green was only a "Fill In" !

Trent was a franchise QB and circumstances prevented him from completing the mission !

by CJ-in-2018 on Oct 22, 2009 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions

And

Montana not a “franchise QB”?

Dude. Whatever.

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by KansasCityShuffle on Oct 22, 2009 4:01 PM CDT up reply actions

So why did Steve Young take Joe's place ? San Fran gave up on him !

And Montana excelled in KC for 2 more years ? My point was that KCSHUFFLE eluded to the fact that Trent Green was only a fill in and not a franchise QB which is horse raddish. Trent Green owns all the passing records in KC and was a franchise QB. Trent would still be playing if not for concusions, Carl and Herm !

by CJ-in-2018 on Oct 22, 2009 4:25 PM CDT up reply actions

Trent had a good run

but its hard to consider someone a franchise QB that’s already over the age of 30 when they got here. We were lucky he lasted 5 seasons.

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by KansasCityShuffle on Oct 22, 2009 5:04 PM CDT up reply actions

SF didn't give up on Montana

they simply did it the “Patriot Way” before it existed. Move the old guy out before he slips and still has value instead of riding the old guys down like CP did with us.

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by kabrink on Oct 22, 2009 9:40 PM CDT up reply actions

Montana was THE franchise QB

of the 49ers

* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season

by stagdsp on Oct 22, 2009 8:21 PM CDT up reply actions

I know I'm probably oversimplifying it

But why not take some shots early down the field? It will bring the safeties out of the box, opening things up for LJ. More times than not, it will be unsuccessful, bringing up a 2nd and 10, but how is that any different than running LJ up the middle for zero yards? I dunno, maybe thats why I’m not an offensive coordinator.

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by craig in calgary on Oct 22, 2009 11:44 AM CDT reply actions

Dude, you are right on

The Chiefs do need to throw down the field more on 1st down. I’d rather do that than run LJ for neg yards or worse yet attempt those lame end arounds which never seem to work. And how about some more play action??

Jeeze remember the days when Deberg would play action to Okoye and hit Birden or Paige for a big strike…I miss those days.

by zachm on Oct 22, 2009 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions

We just need to be careful

the one thing Cassel has been great about is not throwing INTs. An increase in throwing down field usually leads to an increas in INTs (especially if they are trying to “strech the field” with guys like Wade and Engram).

It's a good thing Pioli and Haley aren't running AP or a lot of you guys would of been traded or cut for cast offs from the Pats Pulpit.

by KCporkchop on Oct 22, 2009 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions

Then bring back Lelie, or bring on Galloway

by mcclanahanman on Oct 22, 2009 1:32 PM CDT up reply actions

Galloway? Really???

That dude is soooo done.

by Chiefsfan1970 on Oct 22, 2009 1:36 PM CDT up reply actions

He might be done

but he can still get downfield

by mcclanahanman on Oct 22, 2009 1:38 PM CDT up reply actions

But he can't catch anymore.

That’s why NE cut him.

by Chiefsfan1970 on Oct 22, 2009 1:38 PM CDT up reply actions

his speed

would more than likely keep defenses honest

by mcclanahanman on Oct 22, 2009 1:39 PM CDT up reply actions

Lelie

showed a little promise, I though

by stagdsp on Oct 22, 2009 1:50 PM CDT up reply actions

I agree with both of you on that.

I would rather have kept Lelie though. by now, he would’ve been lightin it up.

by Chiefsfan1970 on Oct 22, 2009 1:57 PM CDT up reply actions

We'll never know

he just wasn’t a haley or pioli guy, like copper is

by mcclanahanman on Oct 22, 2009 2:02 PM CDT up reply actions

Usain Bolt

now THERE’S some speed

Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisiton!

by upamtn on Oct 22, 2009 2:06 PM CDT up reply actions

Someone compare these numbers to Kurt Warner last year

It would be interesting to compare different quarterbacks in the same systems. Compare Warner and Cassel, then compare Brady and Cassel to see if it is the offensive system and play calls or a problem with personnel. Plus I don’t think our offensive line gives too much time to be throwing down field much. Also I don’t think Todd Haley’s system calls for too much vertical passing as much as quick passes with high YAC. That seems to be more what he ran in Arizona.

by ChiefMizzou09 on Oct 22, 2009 11:46 AM CDT reply actions

Its hard to compare systems to Arizona's

Warner to Boldin/Fitz/Breaston is too high a benchmark.
Its like saying if a girl isn’t as hot as Megan Fox, that she is ugly.

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by craig in calgary on Oct 22, 2009 12:02 PM CDT up reply actions

The Arizona Offense most definitely has a lot of talent

Although the talent is different, the system is probably similar. Haley’s offense depends on sharp routes, good timing, and catching the ball. If his players can do this (Chiefs recievers still working on it, Arizona’s recievers great at it), all of his players will start putting up big numbers. To show that Haley is running similar systems is apparent in the use of the TE. In Arizona, the TEs rarely caught passes on a consistent basis, but were often used going up the seam (look at the Chiefs high yards per attempt in the deep middle which have mostly been Sean Ryan hiding in between the safeties and linebackers). Haley also continues to use quick slants when pressure occurs which he called in Arizona on a consistent basis. Although the personnel are not identical, similar play calling should occur which means you can look at the numbers for attempted passes in their locations and the two quarterbacks may be similar. Maybe not.

by ChiefMizzou09 on Oct 22, 2009 1:12 PM CDT up reply actions

The only quick slant I have seen was last week.

He should be running that play a lot more if you ask me.

by Chiefsfan1970 on Oct 22, 2009 1:38 PM CDT up reply actions

Absolutely!!!

a LOT more often

by stagdsp on Oct 22, 2009 1:50 PM CDT up reply actions

I can remember at least once or twice that they ran it and Bowe dropped it

by ChiefMizzou09 on Oct 22, 2009 5:35 PM CDT up reply actions

I remember once or twice Bowe caught it for a big gain

keep running it

by stagdsp on Oct 22, 2009 8:21 PM CDT up reply actions

There is something to that

The story with Larry Fitzgerald, was that he told him anyone can catch the ball, even every time, but what can you do after the catch, is what defines the best at that position.

Haley is definitely looking for guys that can get YAC. But with Bowe, I think he’s just trying to stop all the dropped balls on a consistent basis, before he tries to tackle phase two, which would be the YAC.

by jcru on Oct 22, 2009 12:29 PM CDT up reply actions

Wasn't this the big knock on Croyle?

he was injured. injured bad.

by troy145 on Oct 22, 2009 12:03 PM CDT reply actions

No the knock on Croyle was

He was injured. Injured bad.

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by craig in calgary on Oct 22, 2009 12:06 PM CDT up reply actions

If I remember right

Croyle came in as a rookie and kept throwing it downfield, just to the other team, in the preseason games. Thats why he didn’t beat out Huard that year it was “his job to lose”. Then when he finally got his shot Herm had drilled his “play it safe” philosophy into him.

It's a good thing Pioli and Haley aren't running AP or a lot of you guys would of been traded or cut for cast offs from the Pats Pulpit.

by KCporkchop on Oct 22, 2009 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions

Another thing i can see about this is

If cassel could get some time to set up and be able to throw deep then this could be different

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by redmedicone on Oct 22, 2009 12:04 PM CDT reply actions

When I think of Cassel

You’re really talking about potential, based on his resume from 15 1/2 games last year and 5 games this year.

I don’t think anyone is ever going to confuse Cassel with Dan Mario or Joe Montana or Johny Unitas or even Payton Manning or Tom Brady. Probably not even Eli Manning.

When I think of Cassel… you’re probably talking about someone like Joe Thiesman or Jim Plunkett or even a Danny White or Troy Aikman. And I’m no Cowboys fan by any means, but that’s what I’m thinking. Someone who isn’t bigger than the team, but can be very successful with the right supporting cast.

Maybe even like a Jim Kelly or even a Bob Griese. That would be really high hopes, but I’d like to think that’s Matt’s potential, if the cards fall right.

by jcru on Oct 22, 2009 12:23 PM CDT reply actions

almost everyone of those guys

are in the HOF…you might be pushing it a little too soon

by KCinAZ on Oct 22, 2009 12:25 PM CDT up reply actions

Yeah

I meant the way they played. The second group of guys, not the guys in the first paragraph. They wouldn’t have been as good as they were, if their teams weren’t as talented as they were. They were more a cog in the machine, not the tail that wags the dog. Well, OK, maybe Kelly is the exception in that last, but that’s what I meant.

by jcru on Oct 22, 2009 12:31 PM CDT up reply actions

I really like the comparison some have made to Roethlisberger

Good size (Ben’s a little bigger in the middle), good leader, great “team” guy, can take a hit, prefers to scramble around and try to find somebody as opposed to just throwing it away, not an elite guy on the level of Brady or Manning but somebody that is good enough to win it all with if you give them a good supporting cast.

It's a good thing Pioli and Haley aren't running AP or a lot of you guys would of been traded or cut for cast offs from the Pats Pulpit.

by KCporkchop on Oct 22, 2009 1:01 PM CDT up reply actions

I think the jury is still out..

on Cassel…of course his O-Line is bad, and we dont have any deep threat recievers, but lots of times when he has the opportunities his throw is off. He WILL stand in the pocket and make the attempt to let things open up for him, but as we all know that has resulted in many sacks. With better protection up front,everything will get better. The running game, passing game, even the playcalling. But until we can protect him, he is not going to put up great numbers. Right now, we should all just be satisfied that he is not turning the ball over. But he has to get rid of it sooner or make the decision to run or throw it away.

by KCinAZ on Oct 22, 2009 12:23 PM CDT reply actions

Sanchez would throw it down the field, we should have drafted him

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by HIV 2 Elway on Oct 22, 2009 12:27 PM CDT reply actions

yeah...thats all we need, is a rookie leading THIS offense...

by KCinAZ on Oct 22, 2009 12:29 PM CDT up reply actions

Sure, and Sanchez would throw 5 INT's a game and cost his team the game !

by CJ-in-2018 on Oct 22, 2009 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions

Sanchez would get so much pressure put on him. The only reason

why Cassel isnt dead is because of his experience and his plays that dont cost turnovers…where as Sachez just hucks it up there…example the jets game last week.

by Wrestler189s on Oct 22, 2009 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions

The reason i think Cassel

doesn’t throw it down the field, IMO, is because he doesnt have the time. Also i think because Dwayne Bowe is double covered most of the time we dont really have a down field threat.

by Wrestler189s on Oct 22, 2009 12:53 PM CDT reply actions

Thats the right answere

by GHOST OF DT on Oct 22, 2009 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions

I think the lack of a deep threat is a very small part of it.

The fact is that Haley has not called many deep routes. Although I don’t see Bowe as the kind of guy who is going to get past defenders, he is however the kind of guy who will win the jump ball and get YAC. He IS a lot like Fitz in that sense (maybe not as good…yet) Still he could be very effective on the deep ball. They will start opening it up more once we get some decent protection for Cassel. Haley doesn’t strike me as a guy who is scared to take calculated risks.

by Chiefsfan1970 on Oct 22, 2009 1:48 PM CDT up reply actions

Exactly

No deep threat at all. Bobby Wade is a slot receiver meant for short catches with YAC and Bowe is a possession receiver made for jump balls and blocking out with his body to make third down conversions

by ChiefMizzou09 on Oct 22, 2009 1:14 PM CDT up reply actions

You cannot make deep passes if you're laying on your a$$ all the time

The magic number is 2.4

…at least 2.4 seconds to give you time to throw the deep ball.

Watch the play(s) unfold and count to yourself and you’ll see that there isn’t enough time for the plays to unfold.

BTW..this isn’t a made up number. I believe it was Lenny Dawson or perhaps one fo the pre-game shows where I heard the 2.4 second rule in order for plays to progress.

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by THE_TRUTH on Oct 22, 2009 1:25 PM CDT reply actions

The 2.4 second rule also applies to my love life.

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by craig in calgary on Oct 22, 2009 1:37 PM CDT up reply actions

Sorry to hear that! :)

by ttownmikey on Oct 22, 2009 1:39 PM CDT up reply actions

You stallion

I’m still aspiring to that number…

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by mugglemage on Oct 23, 2009 11:33 AM CDT up reply actions

cassel is not losing games for us

I think that’s the most important thing for us right now. with an almost all new team and players still coming and going and then him missing half the preseason and 1st reg game. the coaches are doing the right thing by not asking him to risk it down the field right now; that will change eventually when we can block, run and be able to overcome a turnover or two.

one thing i see from him that makes me believe he is our franchise QB is his ability to drive the ball when the games on the line and often throw a great TD strike.

by E.C. on Oct 22, 2009 1:57 PM CDT reply actions

+1

by Chiefsfan1970 on Oct 22, 2009 1:58 PM CDT up reply actions

Give me a break!

Cassel has all the tools to be a franchise QB in the league for a decade or more. His problems are magnified with the poor talent and horendous o-line. Not to mention no running game! Teams dare us to throw and the only way we get anytime for him is by max protection that might buy us 3-5 seconds max. making our receivers being 4 on 7 often. Wake up, he is the best thing in KC right now and I believe you will be eating your words and buying his jersey in the years to come. Good discussion…

by casselreadychiefs on Oct 22, 2009 4:58 PM CDT reply actions

Cassel won't

last a decade. He’ll be lucky if he makes it through the season if he continues at this pace. He just doesn’t seem to have any pocket presence. I hope he doesn’t get hurt but I expect he will.

Somehow or someway he needs to get rid of the ball and protect himself or he won’t be around long.

by choirboy on Oct 22, 2009 5:44 PM CDT reply actions

How can Cassel throw deep with this offensive line?

I don’t think Cassel has the arm strength of a Jay Cutler or Peyton Manning, but I think it’s pretty hard to judge him not throwing deep with such a horrible line. The line has been bad for so long that when Cassel actually gets a pocket, we are stunned!

I don’t think it’s the “rocket arm” that makes a QB as great as Brady or Manning are. I think it’s the ability to make clutch plays when it matters the most and guide your team to the Super Bowl. Heck, Jay Cutler probably has the best arm in the league and he hasn’t even made it to the playoffs yet!

by jjbjhawk on Oct 22, 2009 7:43 PM CDT reply actions