Chiefs Need To Replace These Coaches
by royalsfan99 on Oct 21, 2009 6:26 PM CDT
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Bill Muir Offensive line and Joe D'Alessandris Offensive line Assistant they need cut and replaced with Will Shields if available i know he's still into football with his youth leagues and would be a positive choice and thats if he would come.
Quarter Backs Coach Todd Haley: he's got to much to worry about I say we bring in a guy who loves the chiefs Trent Green who led us to a 10-6 record in 07 come on Scott bring him in.
these are just some some things I thought about.
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good thoughts
But, I’ll take ACTUAL coaches over former players who may or may not be good coaches.
I do think the Chiefs need to hire a QB coach and Haley should delegate some of the OC duties (if he hasn’t already)
I think the OL coach is a good one… they are still working out the kinks in the new offensive system, and still working with 2 starters that shouldn’t be starting
* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season
by stagdsp on Oct 21, 2009 6:29 PM CDT reply actions 3 recs
Rec
Why do I feel I rec your comments to much?
Ah cause they are good :)
We Will kick at least 4 Teams Asses in 09
And Succop will be the Key in two of them.
" Think and talk positive football off the field." Hank Stram
by Steve_Chiefs on Oct 21, 2009 8:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Or you're in love with him :)
by HeatherChiefsLvr on Oct 22, 2009 2:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
hey, hey, hey
don’t hate :)
* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season
by stagdsp on Oct 22, 2009 6:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow really you're suggesting former players
To be coaches and you think we’ll have success?
You’re a real smart guy my friend! Smartest guy on here!!! :)
God I just love how smart you are!! YAY!!!
by TonylovesKC on Oct 22, 2009 5:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I always thought Green would make a great coach
During the games it didn’t matter if he was on the field or off. That guy never missed a thing, not one little detail. I just don’t see either happening since they don’t have any ties to Pioli or Haley.
It's a good thing Pioli and Haley aren't running AP or a lot of you guys would of been traded or cut for cast offs from the Pats Pulpit.
by KCporkchop on Oct 21, 2009 6:29 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
if you want a former player
steve deberg is developing a real reputation for being an excellent qb guru. i’d rather see bill muir coach with some talent before i decide to let him walk
Never kick a fresh turd on a hot day.
Harry S. Truman
by kcguy on Oct 21, 2009 6:33 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
deberg has a sweet gig
last i saw 50 grand a kid i could be wrong
by PSUkegreen on Oct 21, 2009 6:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
One kid
300 grand.
Winters suck in KC though
We Will kick at least 4 Teams Asses in 09
And Succop will be the Key in two of them.
" Think and talk positive football off the field." Hank Stram
by Steve_Chiefs on Oct 21, 2009 8:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Or....
Bruce Matthews is an offensive ast. with the Texans….he would be a great OLine coach.
I would love to see Green as a QB coach. He was a smart guy who should know the QB position better than anyone.
Richie Anderson is our WR coach….he played FB his whole NFL career. But he played under Haley with the Jets….so looks like Haley only wants former players he coached with.
Pepper Johnson would probably make a good DC one day. He is Dline coach with the Patriots. He is a Parcells guy and has played under Haley before and of course has ties with Pioli.
"Its going to be a challenge, its going to feel like forever, and there will be difficulties. But we will emerge on the other side of it stronger than we were when we entered." ~ Sudden
by Matt_Grbac on Oct 21, 2009 6:40 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I’m guessing Bruce Matthews sticks around Houston. His son, Jake, narrowed his college choices down to Texas, Texas A&M, and USC, with USC a very distant third because of location. Apparently they decided that father and son would prefer to be closer, which makes sense, and leaving for an OL job in KC would conflict with that preference. Jake did commit to TAMU, by the way, and while he probably won’t take a redshirt due to poor OL depth there, that’s still probably the 2013 season at the earliest, and more likely 2014 or 2015, that Bruce would be ready to leave.
by burntorangehorn on Oct 21, 2009 7:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Crap
That Matthews family is taking over the NFL! They are all freaking great players though….its awesome. I want a Matthews on our team. Maybe Casey Matthews…Clay’s son. He is a LB and looks pretty good. I forget where he plays.
"Its going to be a challenge, its going to feel like forever, and there will be difficulties. But we will emerge on the other side of it stronger than we were when we entered." ~ Sudden
by Matt_Grbac on Oct 22, 2009 8:47 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Isn't Clay Matthews about 22 years old?
I mean, I know his hairline is receding from all the steroids, but he’s fresh out of college.
by burntorangehorn on Oct 22, 2009 9:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Clay Matthews the dad
who played for the Cleveland Browns & was one of the best linebackers of his day. You are thinking of his son Clay Matthews III who is a rookie for the Green Bay Packers! :)
by ttownmikey on Oct 22, 2009 11:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What would really be great
is if Kurt Warner retired after this season and then he could come in. He loved Haley and could not only be the QB coach but would be a perfect fit for Haley to eventually turn the play calling over to since he knows Haley’s playbook so well.
It's a good thing Pioli and Haley aren't running AP or a lot of you guys would of been traded or cut for cast offs from the Pats Pulpit.
by KCporkchop on Oct 21, 2009 6:48 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Kurt Warner will make the move to television when he retires. Makes too much sense.
by scottbwalters on Oct 21, 2009 10:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just like Trent Green. Good lookin guys that people respect because they know their shit.
by JComp11 on Oct 21, 2009 10:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
They were great players
but who says they can coach. And our line at areas who says the guys cant be coached
by chiefs316 on Oct 21, 2009 7:14 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Often times the great players aren't great or even good at coaching
Some guys you just know are going to be good coaches, because they’re students of the game. However, most great players are great because they’re immensely talented, and they’re able to do things with instinct and ability. That doesn’t translate into good coaching. It’s like your average adjunct faculty professor for mathematics: sure the dude can do anything and everything in nonlinear algebra or advanced calc naturally, without even thinking about it, but it’s precisely that the guy doesn’t have to think his way through the steps that he’s unsuited to actually teach others how to get through the steps.
by burntorangehorn on Oct 21, 2009 7:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh well someone is going to say it so....
Clancy Pendergast and replace him with a BBQ and Bobby Flay on the sidelines so our boys can at least eat good on gameday.
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
by GenericBrand on Oct 21, 2009 7:39 PM CDT reply actions 2 recs
NOW yer talkin'!!!
Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisiton!
by upamtn on Oct 21, 2009 7:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If you arent going to win...
You might as well have a BBQ party and have some fun I figure.
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
by GenericBrand on Oct 21, 2009 7:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sign me up
Pendy has to go.
Erykah Badu, I have accepted your proposal. So, Mrs. DTR, let's get to consummating...you are on notice.
"All praise Chiefus."
by DThomasReigns on Oct 21, 2009 7:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Im not sure he'll go go ...
But definetly needs reassignment and a new DC.
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
by GenericBrand on Oct 21, 2009 7:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think so.
Easy to blame Pendergast. I mostly like what he’s tryin’ ta do, but I don’t think he has the players to do it, just yet.
No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.
by hmills110 on Oct 21, 2009 11:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He...
had talent galore in Arizona and had a par defense.
by I_Bleed_Red. on Oct 22, 2009 2:39 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I blame any guy ...
that picks scheme over personnel. I have a problem with the fact that this team had spent years drafting D-Linemen that need to play in a 4-3 (admittedly not with much success), and this guy decides to ignore the personnel and switch to a scheme at which they can’t possibly be successful. This team doesn’t have the right guys to play either D-Line or at LB to play that scheme. I think this is a common mistake in the NFL right now. Too many coaches believe that the scheme wins over the players. A good coach should devise a scheme that best suits the talent he’s been given.
The tackling on this team is pitiful as a unit. That is something that should be improving by this point in the season, and I don’t see that it is. With a little professional tackling, they beat the Cowboys and the Raiders. Hell, maybe even the Ravens the way that game was going. The offense hasn’t been great, but this team could easily be 3-3 right now.
by etp_stl on Oct 22, 2009 12:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rec on the Southwestern flavor of Booby Flay
Now if Iron Chef Masimoto can bring in a Sumo to play NT…..
We Will kick at least 4 Teams Asses in 09
And Succop will be the Key in two of them.
" Think and talk positive football off the field." Hank Stram
by Steve_Chiefs on Oct 21, 2009 8:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bobby
My fingers are into Booby :)
We Will kick at least 4 Teams Asses in 09
And Succop will be the Key in two of them.
" Think and talk positive football off the field." Hank Stram
by Steve_Chiefs on Oct 21, 2009 8:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If there is a real meaning to that I’m missing it…..
by JComp11 on Oct 21, 2009 9:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey Steve
Succop was the key to winning the last game so per your prediction he only needs one more.
Chiefs set an NFL record,most roster changes in 1 season.
by bringbacktheglory on Oct 21, 2009 9:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Think we can get Nolan???
I thought Denver was going to be terrible this year. Dawkins is the only big name FA, and last year their D was worse or as bad as ours. Now…
They have the 2nd ranked defense by YPG (yards per game) and top ranked in scoring defense. All of the other guy they brought in over the off season were under the radar role players.
I do think the Chiefs defense has improved over last year, and the starting schedule has made our stats look worse than we are by the level of competition faced, but we are 29th in YPG and 23rd in scoring defense.
I’m not trying to bash Pendergast, but Haley’s late hiring didn’t leave him with top picks of coordinators. If a move were to made to the staff, D-coord would make the most sense to me. I has been brought up here before that after Romeo Crennel recovers from his hip or knee replacement surgery he could be a candidate, makes sense with his work in a 3-4 and ties to PIoli….
by chrisclark_dfw on Oct 22, 2009 3:21 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not Bobby Flay. That little douche needs a skewer up the ass.
Maybe if we could resurrect Bobby Mueller…
by burntorangehorn on Oct 22, 2009 9:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Like everyone says
It’s hard to say whether they would turn out to be good coaches or not. One things for sure, they were both good leaders and had great work ethics on the field. I also understand that Jim Zorn may soon be available as a QB coach ;-0
by Supersport on Oct 21, 2009 8:00 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
ok, so this post is from the same guy who yesterday said "vrable sucks bring in sergio kindle"
of course, Kindle is still in college, but hey, why not … let’s give him a call …
sorry, hard for me to take much of anything seriously by this particular poster when he makes comments as he did yesterday
and I do believe this idea was floated before … I’m sure it has
Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisiton!
by upamtn on Oct 21, 2009 8:12 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Agreed.
If we’re bringing in any former players, why not Sippio as a wide receivers coach? ;)
I hate waiting.
by WMR on Oct 21, 2009 11:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
isn't that why they brought in Amani Toomer to begin with?
Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisiton!
by upamtn on Oct 22, 2009 12:43 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would MUCH rather have a proven coach
like Bill Muir than a guy who used to play for the chiefs
Before you judge a man, walk a mile in his shoes; after that, who cares?! He's a mile away and you've got his shoes!
by SuperTurtle on Oct 21, 2009 8:13 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Even if those *guys* are Trent Green and Will Shields
Before you judge a man, walk a mile in his shoes; after that, who cares?! He's a mile away and you've got his shoes!
by SuperTurtle on Oct 21, 2009 8:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i wouldnt be opposed....
to bringing them in as assistant coaches to the position coaches.
by MountainManMike on Oct 22, 2009 6:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mike vrable
Yeah mike does suck the only time he is playing good is on boot legs and play actions
by royalsfan99 on Oct 21, 2009 9:12 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
We must be watching different KC Chiefs...
Vrabel is the defensive leader. He’s third on the team in tackles (26), has a sasck and a FF.
We are all entitled to our opinion, but your explanation of why he sucks hasn’t swayed mine.
BTW, I do think we should draft a replacement for Vrabel in the upcoming draft, but hope they resign Vrabel to allow the draft pick to develop. Kindle isn’t the guy I hope they get though.
by chrisclark_dfw on Oct 22, 2009 3:37 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
well said, wreck
* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season
by stagdsp on Oct 22, 2009 6:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Trent Green has already said in interviews
that even before he retired he was talking to coaches and announcers trying to decide what he wanted to do when he did retire. And he choose the media side because it gives him more time with his family.
Chiefs set an NFL record,most roster changes in 1 season.
by bringbacktheglory on Oct 21, 2009 9:43 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
much easier job
probably as much money as a position coach would make too
Air Cassel - approved for takeoff
by kabrink on Oct 21, 2009 9:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Which makes me think that after awhile he’ll be a coach.
by JComp11 on Oct 21, 2009 10:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
he doesnt have to worry about money
he is a smart guy and im sure hes been smart with his money…plus the retirement money players get isnt too shabby.
by MountainManMike on Oct 22, 2009 6:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Shields might be a legit choice as an offensive line assistant, I believe he was called in as a consultant by some teams during training camp. Trent Green, not so much. Let these guys get some coach experience before you start handing them responsibilities.
by scottbwalters on Oct 21, 2009 10:24 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Even though I wasn’t crazy about his lack of run calling when he was an oc, kinda wondered how Mike Martz would fit with Haley. As far as a qb coach he’s as good as you can get, and like most I feel that Haley would be a better coach with an OC. I doubt it would ever happen, but thought I would throw it out there to see what you guys think.
by lett on Oct 21, 2009 10:41 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I think Martz is a lot smarter as a pundit than as a coach, myself.
No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.
by hmills110 on Oct 21, 2009 11:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
and we KNOW we are, right mills?
Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisiton!
by upamtn on Oct 22, 2009 12:44 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think Martz has ruined his own reputation.
He doesn’t work and play well with others, and his arrogance clouds his judgement. He worked really well when Vermeil could overrule him, but his bravado lost him a Super Bowl and DeMarco Farr says basically disrupted the team in the sandwich year in St. Louis.
He would provide some excitement, but frankly he beats himself with his apathy towards ball protection and clock management.
by etp_stl on Oct 22, 2009 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
u know
i was actually thinking / dreaming that chiefs should bring in shields for o-line coaching. lol. hell i’d consider Green or Montana for qb coach. i think Cool Joe is to busy QB coaching 2 of his sons, along w/ Will Smiths son, down in SO Cal.
Proud Supporter of Tyler Thigpen.
by nfamous209 on Oct 22, 2009 10:43 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
oh i forgot
how bout resurrect DT for LB coach :D, Neil Smith for D-Line.
Proud Supporter of Tyler Thigpen.
by nfamous209 on Oct 22, 2009 10:44 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Less coaching...
I think too much coaching is as big a problem as too little. At some point you’ve just got to let your players play. How often would teams play better if the coaches left the field?
by 12t on Oct 22, 2009 4:59 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
what?!?
nobody wants to bring in elway to coach our qb’s?
by MountainManMike on Oct 22, 2009 6:12 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
whose Elway?
didnt he ride a donkey for a few years?
hows about Marino or Steve, not Bono, but Young
Proud Supporter of Tyler Thigpen.
by nfamous209 on Oct 23, 2009 10:35 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I dont think that Trent Green is going into coaching. he is going to continue to do the tv thing.
will shields was an oline consultant for the jets and i wouldnt be suprised if he would answer the right call.
Todd Haley is bringing in the guys that he is comfortable with and not the ex players that we like and thats a good thing!
by pmwz on Oct 23, 2009 12:01 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
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