KR/PR problems
by Arrowhead Alec on Oct 21, 2009 3:04 PM CDT
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PrintI wish I could hope we might have a chance when the opposing team kicks or punts the ball to us, but I can't even hope it looks so bad. The smallest glimpse of hope came last week when Charles did an above average job and gave me more confidence hope than I've had in a long time. I strongly dislike Wade as a punt returner he keeps dropping balls, fumbling, and not running up the field, it's very hard to watch him.
Here are the Return Stats so far:
RETURNS
| Kickoff Returns | Punt Returns | ||||||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| G | KR | YDS | AVG | LNG | TD | PR | YDS | AVG | LNG | TD | |
| Jamaal Charles | 5 | 17 | 410 | 24.1 | 53 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| Bobby Engram | 3 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| Quinten Lawrence | 2 | 1 | 17 | 17 | 17 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| Maurice Leggett | 5 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| Dantrell Savage | 2 | 5 | 114 | 22.8 | 29 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| Andy Studebaker | 4 | 1 | 8 | 8 | 8 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| Bobby Wade | 5 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 15 | 119 | 7.9 | 18 | 0 |
If we had to get someone next year in the draft, who would you want? What round should we take our first WR or KR? I think if we get a receiver in the draft ( let's pray we do), it better be a returner too. It's not our biggest concern but it definitely is a concern.
When Quinten Lawrence comes back he should get a chance. He can be good!
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Wade,Charles and Legg
all scare me touching that ball on returns. It seems like they all muff or fumble. I thought Wade was going to give away the game last Sunday….
oh and yeah..
what do you mean when Lawrence is back? Im pretty sure hes fine just doesnt get any playing time unless there is something I dont know?
He's just been inactive...
maybe at some point Haley will plug him in at PR.
I think haley does like him, and PR is probably in his future plans
* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season
He's afraid of the hit
QL should be a WR learning this year just won’t run across the middle
We Will kick at least 4 Teams Asses in 09
And Succop will be the Key in two of them.
" Think and talk positive football off the field." Hank Stram
by Steve_Chiefs on Oct 21, 2009 7:50 PM CDT up reply actions
no
he can actually catch and YAC are important and he can make it happen
by Arrowhead Alec on Oct 21, 2009 8:27 PM CDT up reply actions
I think he has some ability...
looked good on that reverse…
shows some speed and open field moves…
I can’t wait to see him get on the field
* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season
I want him to do it too!
We need some damn speed in the WR corp.
Why is he not playing?
We Will kick at least 4 Teams Asses in 09
And Succop will be the Key in two of them.
" Think and talk positive football off the field." Hank Stram
by Steve_Chiefs on Oct 21, 2009 8:31 PM CDT up reply actions
well, he may not be ready yet
but, I hope he gets there sooner rather than later…
I dont’ think there’d be much risk in giving him Engram’s snaps, or a couple of Wade’s…
* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season
If he is going to make it it needs to be now
If he is active he needs to make some plays.
Next year is not going to be in the cards with all the draft picks we have currently.
We Will kick at least 4 Teams Asses in 09
And Succop will be the Key in two of them.
" Think and talk positive football off the field." Hank Stram
by Steve_Chiefs on Oct 21, 2009 8:51 PM CDT up reply actions
Lawrence or Long
BEST case scenario is that Lawrence or Lance Long will step up and become a reliable punt returner.
Both have the quickness and speed to get the job done, as long as they make good decisions and hold on to the ball.
I like Charles as KR… I think he gives the Chiefs an average to above average guy at that spot…
though I wouldn’t flinch if they drafted a dynamic KR/PR.
As far as the draft goes, I think the 3rd round would be the first place I’d want to see a WR/KR/PR drafted… the 1st and 2nd round picks are too important for the OL and defense.
I am not aware of any outstanding prospects coming into the draft, but I’m sure they are there.
IF they could find a Johnny Knox type guy in the 5th round, like the Bears did… that’d be amazing.
* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season
IF... they could find an Eddie Royal type WR
that could give us a KR/PR weapon and bring some speed to the #2 WR spot to stretch the field, I would have no problem drafting him as high as the 2nd round.
It's a good thing Pioli and Haley aren't running AP or a lot of you guys would of been traded or cut for cast offs from the Pats Pulpit.
yeah, I see your point...
2nd round would be OK… as long as they still get a STARTING Center, Safety and probably an OLB, at some point in the draft.
* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season
I'm ok with...
not getting an OLB in the draft next year. I think Hali is looking ok enough to address other areas first. Vrabel looks to have at least one more year after this one.
I am going to say safety, center, gaurd, ILB, WR, TE, & NT…in no particular order.
Bewsaf
Vrabel has been very very good.
I just would like to see another dynamic pass rusher, and Vrabel’s successor in place before he’s gone.
But, yeah, I pretty much agree with your list…
S (Berry)
C (O’dowd or whoever)
are the most important, IMO.
* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season
I just think...
a game changing safety will be a world of difference. We need to work on the other peices also, but, that safety…oops…I think I just got a woody thinking about it.
Bewsaf
Check Aaron Morgan Lousisana-Monroe
A violent Pass Rusher in the DE/OLB be frame. Raw but a very disruptive force
by butchcassidy on Oct 22, 2009 2:15 AM CDT up reply actions
Jordan Shippley from University of Texas would be a really good
KR/PR/WR…
He’s got sure hands…
I wouldn’t be surprised to see him around in the 3rd round
by CALIFAN1986 on Oct 21, 2009 9:17 PM CDT up reply actions
Javier Arenas or Jacoby Ford/CJ Spiller
All three are speed demons. Arenas – CB, Ford – WR, Spiller – RB.
I think Spiller would go too high. We could have a chance at Arenas or Ford.
"Its going to be a challenge, its going to feel like forever, and there will be difficulties. But we will emerge on the other side of it stronger than we were when we entered." ~ Sudden
I like
Shipley and Brandon Banks, I would love C.J. Spiller but he is a RB, but who knows we probably need a running back toooooo.
no we don't, we have LJ!!!
and EVERYONE knows that LJ has more talent in his little finger than most ORDINARY RBs have altogether and as long as WE HAVE LJ nothing bad will EVER happen to us, we are SAFE because WE HAVE LJ … Stop Bashing LJ! I am SO SICK of people just BASHNG LJ that I could just … look, get over it, LJ is OUR RB forever and ever amen!!!
Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisiton!
pretty sure he just forgot the sarcasm font...
* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season
I figured by this time everyone would be able to read the NEW and IMPROVED ...
… invisible sarcasm font
Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisiton!
Wow, I just thought he was crazy...
Where can I get me some of that sarcasm font.
What i wanted to do to you.
Before you judge a man, walk a mile in his shoes; after that, who cares?! He's a mile away and you've got his shoes!
I definitely didnt bash LJ
I was just wondering if he could hold up, I am one of the last believers in him anyway, we just need an OL and I wish we would use the FB more and he would do better. Calm Down, but he won’t last forever He needs to run harder most of the time and stop running into players! there now I barely bashed him
Trindon Holliday-LSU
He has world class speed . Possibly a same style returner as Sproles. Not saying he would be as good as a RB as sproles, but a real exsplosive guy to return P/KR. He should also be around near the end of the draft.
Dez Bryant
If we get a mid-first round pick or maybe around pick number 10, Dez Bryant would definitely be an option. He has great punt return ability and has scored touchdowns off of them several times in college. Would combine with Bowe to form a Fitzgerald/Boldin like combination
Good player, but with Bowe we don't need to spend our top pick on a WR.
It's a good thing Pioli and Haley aren't running AP or a lot of you guys would of been traded or cut for cast offs from the Pats Pulpit.
it's a fun thought, though...
* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season
I am assuming
that you were replying to tomahawks reply to yours, in which case you should click on the reply tab (in red) on the bottom of his reply. That will indent your comment below his, in order to keep everything more organized.
Welcome to AP & nice post.
nope.. comments are forever
you can edit your posts and shots… not comments
* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season
especially the SARCASTIC comments ... forever and ever, amen
WE HAVE LJ!!!
Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisiton!
no im talking about my extra comment, hahaha
LJ lives on!
by Arrowhead Alec on Oct 21, 2009 7:43 PM CDT up reply actions
We just need a Wade type that wants to play football.
Cassel would be the type. Takes all kind of hits and holds onto the ball.
We Will kick at least 4 Teams Asses in 09
And Succop will be the Key in two of them.
" Think and talk positive football off the field." Hank Stram
great idea, Steve - Cassel would be MUCH more valuable at KR/PR than at QB
right?
Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisiton!
Cassel would be the type
to hold on to the ball and get smacked around on the return.
Team Player
We Will kick at least 4 Teams Asses in 09
And Succop will be the Key in two of them.
" Think and talk positive football off the field." Hank Stram
by Steve_Chiefs on Oct 21, 2009 8:33 PM CDT up reply actions
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