KR/PR problems

by Arrowhead Alec on Oct 21, 2009 3:04 PM CDT Comment 46 comments

I wish I could hope we might have a chance when the opposing team kicks or punts the ball to us, but I can't even hope it looks so bad. The smallest glimpse of hope came last week when Charles did an above average job and gave me more confidence hope than I've had in a long time. I strongly dislike Wade as a punt returner he keeps dropping balls, fumbling, and not running up the field, it's very hard to watch him.

Here are the Return Stats so far:

RETURNS

		Kickoff Returns					Punt Returns
	G	KR	YDS	AVG	LNG	TD	PR	YDS	AVG	LNG	TD
Jamaal Charles	5	17	410	24.1	53	0	0	0	0	0	0
Bobby Engram	3	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
Quinten Lawrence	2	1	17	17	17	0	0	0	0	0	0
Maurice Leggett	5	0	0	0	0	0	1	0	0	0	0
Dantrell Savage	2	5	114	22.8	29	0	0	0	0	0	0
Andy Studebaker	4	1	8	8	8	0	0	0	0	0	0
Bobby Wade	5	0	0	0	0	0	15	119	7.9	18	0

If we had to get someone next year in the draft, who would you want? What round should we take our first WR or KR? I think if we get a receiver in the draft ( let's pray we do), it better be a returner too. It's not our biggest concern but it definitely is a concern.

When Quinten Lawrence comes back he should get a chance. He can be good!

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Wade,Charles and Legg

all scare me touching that ball on returns. It seems like they all muff or fumble. I thought Wade was going to give away the game last Sunday….

by tomahawk44 on Oct 21, 2009 3:17 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

oh and yeah..

what do you mean when Lawrence is back? Im pretty sure hes fine just doesnt get any playing time unless there is something I dont know?

by tomahawk44 on Oct 21, 2009 3:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

He's just been inactive...

maybe at some point Haley will plug him in at PR.

I think haley does like him, and PR is probably in his future plans

* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season

by stagdsp on Oct 21, 2009 3:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

He's afraid of the hit

QL should be a WR learning this year just won’t run across the middle

We Will kick at least 4 Teams Asses in 09
And Succop will be the Key in two of them.
" Think and talk positive football off the field." Hank Stram

by Steve_Chiefs on Oct 21, 2009 7:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

no

he can actually catch and YAC are important and he can make it happen

by Arrowhead Alec on Oct 21, 2009 8:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I think he has some ability...

looked good on that reverse…
shows some speed and open field moves…

I can’t wait to see him get on the field

by stagdsp on Oct 21, 2009 8:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I want him to do it too!

We need some damn speed in the WR corp.
Why is he not playing?

We Will kick at least 4 Teams Asses in 09
And Succop will be the Key in two of them.
" Think and talk positive football off the field." Hank Stram

by Steve_Chiefs on Oct 21, 2009 8:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

well, he may not be ready yet

but, I hope he gets there sooner rather than later…
I dont’ think there’d be much risk in giving him Engram’s snaps, or a couple of Wade’s…

by stagdsp on Oct 21, 2009 8:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

If he is going to make it it needs to be now

If he is active he needs to make some plays.
Next year is not going to be in the cards with all the draft picks we have currently.

We Will kick at least 4 Teams Asses in 09
And Succop will be the Key in two of them.
" Think and talk positive football off the field." Hank Stram

by Steve_Chiefs on Oct 21, 2009 8:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Lawrence or Long

BEST case scenario is that Lawrence or Lance Long will step up and become a reliable punt returner.

Both have the quickness and speed to get the job done, as long as they make good decisions and hold on to the ball.

I like Charles as KR… I think he gives the Chiefs an average to above average guy at that spot…
though I wouldn’t flinch if they drafted a dynamic KR/PR.

As far as the draft goes, I think the 3rd round would be the first place I’d want to see a WR/KR/PR drafted… the 1st and 2nd round picks are too important for the OL and defense.

I am not aware of any outstanding prospects coming into the draft, but I’m sure they are there.

IF they could find a Johnny Knox type guy in the 5th round, like the Bears did… that’d be amazing.

by stagdsp on Oct 21, 2009 3:26 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

IF... they could find an Eddie Royal type WR

that could give us a KR/PR weapon and bring some speed to the #2 WR spot to stretch the field, I would have no problem drafting him as high as the 2nd round.

It's a good thing Pioli and Haley aren't running AP or a lot of you guys would of been traded or cut for cast offs from the Pats Pulpit.

by KCporkchop on Oct 21, 2009 3:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

yeah, I see your point...

2nd round would be OK… as long as they still get a STARTING Center, Safety and probably an OLB, at some point in the draft.

by stagdsp on Oct 21, 2009 3:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'm ok with...

not getting an OLB in the draft next year. I think Hali is looking ok enough to address other areas first. Vrabel looks to have at least one more year after this one.

I am going to say safety, center, gaurd, ILB, WR, TE, & NT…in no particular order.

Bewsaf

by Bewsaf on Oct 21, 2009 5:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Vrabel has been very very good.

I just would like to see another dynamic pass rusher, and Vrabel’s successor in place before he’s gone.

But, yeah, I pretty much agree with your list…
S (Berry)
C (O’dowd or whoever)

are the most important, IMO.

by stagdsp on Oct 21, 2009 5:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I just think...

a game changing safety will be a world of difference. We need to work on the other peices also, but, that safety…oops…I think I just got a woody thinking about it.

Bewsaf

by Bewsaf on Oct 21, 2009 6:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Check Aaron Morgan Lousisana-Monroe

A violent Pass Rusher in the DE/OLB be frame. Raw but a very disruptive force

by butchcassidy on Oct 22, 2009 2:15 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Jordan Shippley from University of Texas would be a really good

KR/PR/WR…

He’s got sure hands…

I wouldn’t be surprised to see him around in the 3rd round

by CALIFAN1986 on Oct 21, 2009 9:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Javier Arenas or Jacoby Ford/CJ Spiller

All three are speed demons. Arenas – CB, Ford – WR, Spiller – RB.

I think Spiller would go too high. We could have a chance at Arenas or Ford.

"Its going to be a challenge, its going to feel like forever, and there will be difficulties. But we will emerge on the other side of it stronger than we were when we entered." ~ Sudden

by Matt_Grbac on Oct 21, 2009 3:32 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

I like

Shipley and Brandon Banks, I would love C.J. Spiller but he is a RB, but who knows we probably need a running back toooooo.

by Arrowhead Alec on Oct 21, 2009 3:54 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

no we don't, we have LJ!!!

and EVERYONE knows that LJ has more talent in his little finger than most ORDINARY RBs have altogether and as long as WE HAVE LJ nothing bad will EVER happen to us, we are SAFE because WE HAVE LJ … Stop Bashing LJ! I am SO SICK of people just BASHNG LJ that I could just … look, get over it, LJ is OUR RB forever and ever amen!!!

Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisiton!

by upamtn on Oct 21, 2009 4:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

a little worked up over the LJ debate?

by Fourstrike89 on Oct 21, 2009 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

pretty sure he just forgot the sarcasm font...

by stagdsp on Oct 21, 2009 4:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I figured by this time everyone would be able to read the NEW and IMPROVED ...

… invisible sarcasm font

Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisiton!

by upamtn on Oct 21, 2009 5:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Wow, I just thought he was crazy...

Where can I get me some of that sarcasm font.

by 12t on Oct 21, 2009 6:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

What i wanted to do to you.

Before you judge a man, walk a mile in his shoes; after that, who cares?! He's a mile away and you've got his shoes!

by SuperTurtle on Oct 21, 2009 5:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

you talkin' to me? huh?? you talkin' to ME???

Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisiton!

by upamtn on Oct 21, 2009 5:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I definitely didnt bash LJ

I was just wondering if he could hold up, I am one of the last believers in him anyway, we just need an OL and I wish we would use the FB more and he would do better. Calm Down, but he won’t last forever He needs to run harder most of the time and stop running into players! there now I barely bashed him

by Arrowhead Alec on Oct 21, 2009 4:31 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

he was just messing with you alec lol

take it with a grain of salt

by tomahawk44 on Oct 21, 2009 5:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

whoops

I’m new

by Arrowhead Alec on Oct 21, 2009 6:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

lol its cool man welcome to AP

by tomahawk44 on Oct 21, 2009 8:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Trindon Holliday-LSU

He has world class speed . Possibly a same style returner as Sproles. Not saying he would be as good as a RB as sproles, but a real exsplosive guy to return P/KR. He should also be around near the end of the draft.

by chiefs_fan05 on Oct 21, 2009 5:13 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

I've been keeping my eye on him.

It would be great if we could nab him in the last couple rounds.

by ktr17x on Oct 21, 2009 7:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Darren Sproles!!!!

by I_Bleed_Red. on Oct 21, 2009 5:50 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Dez Bryant

If we get a mid-first round pick or maybe around pick number 10, Dez Bryant would definitely be an option. He has great punt return ability and has scored touchdowns off of them several times in college. Would combine with Bowe to form a Fitzgerald/Boldin like combination

by ChiefMizzou09 on Oct 21, 2009 5:50 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Good player, but with Bowe we don't need to spend our top pick on a WR.

It's a good thing Pioli and Haley aren't running AP or a lot of you guys would of been traded or cut for cast offs from the Pats Pulpit.

by KCporkchop on Oct 21, 2009 6:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

it's a fun thought, though...

by stagdsp on Oct 21, 2009 6:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

whoops

I’m new, haha

by Arrowhead Alec on Oct 21, 2009 5:50 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

I am assuming

that you were replying to tomahawks reply to yours, in which case you should click on the reply tab (in red) on the bottom of his reply. That will indent your comment below his, in order to keep everything more organized.
Welcome to AP & nice post.

by ttownmikey on Oct 21, 2009 6:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs