Tank Tyler Trade Highlights Chiefs at the NFL Trading Deadline
by Joel Thorman on Oct 20, 2009 3:11 PM CDT
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PrintThe NFL trading deadline has officially ended. I have been quickly checking all the usual outlets for any news on the Kansas City Chiefs hoping for some sort of action. Though there no deals have happened in the last few hours, the Chiefs were active leading up to the deadline.
Here are a few of the moves that have been going on:
Tank Tyler to the Carolina Panthers for a 5th round pick
Interesting, to say the least. While I think the compensation is fair, who exactly is going backup Ron Edwards at nose tackle, aguably the most physically demanding position in a 3-4 defense?
In training camp, Edwards and Tyler competed for the starting job with Derek Lokey filling in on the third team. I believe Lokey is now a free agent. It'll be interesting to see if Lokey, or one of the three defensive tackles they worked out a couple weeks ago, is signed.
Chiefs reportedly bring in Joey Galloway for a workout
The Patriots released him earlier today. He was signed after Pioli left, though, so he's not a true 'Pioli Patriot' (if there is such a thing).
He's 38 years old and was inactive his last three games with the Pats.
Keep in mind it's only been reported that he's going to work out. This is not necessarily to indicate he will be signed. Big difference.
Chiefs don't trade Glenn Dorsey, Dwayne Bowe or Derrick Johnson
These three names were thrown around a lot leading up to the deadline. A quick Twitter revealed that some of the experts like Adam Schefter of ESPN were asked about these three quite often.
Schefter said (correctly) that Dorsey and Bowe weren't going anywhere.
Even though trades are rare in the NFL, it's a little surprising that DJ wasn't moved. I'm not knocking his talent but the Chiefs just haven't played him much at all in the past few weeks. If he's not in future plans, that's fine right or wrong, then move him if he's got value.
However, as Scott Pioli has said before, it takes two to tango.
Still a lot of activity during trading season
By my count, the Chiefs have made six trades since Pioli came on board. If I'm not mistaken, that leads the NFL. So keep in mind that the team has demonstrated that they're willing to pull the trigger on a deal if they think it fits them.
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Trades in the NFL are fairly rare compared to other teams. It may be because understanding the offensive and defensive systems football teams run is much more complex than joining a baseball or basketball team.
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if we had made another move would it for sure be public by now? Or could the chiefs just be keeping it to themselves until they feel like talking about it?
It's a good thing Pioli and Haley aren't running AP or a lot of you guys would of been traded or cut for cast offs from the Pats Pulpit.
Good point
It could be a little bit but usually once they tell the player it gets out. No reason to hide it anymore.
by Joel Thorman on Oct 20, 2009 3:21 PM CDT up reply actions
OTOH, no reason to tell next week's opponent anything you don't have to...
Not sure what the rules say on this, but it does KC absolutely no good to tell anybody anything outside the organization, if there’s no rule saying they have to.
A pickup like Galloway could boost the WR corps, just by playin’ smart football, even though I don’t think he’s dominant, anymore.
No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.
Couldn't something still happen?
Does the info get released right away? With all the players the Pats dumped I figured they were at least trading for someone.
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Hard to say
Remember how they kept everyone waiting with the final roster cuts? It was a couple of hours after the “deadline” before they actually released the information…if I remember correctly.
True
You guys may have a point…I wouldn’t mind seeing another roster move (out of curiosity).
by Joel Thorman on Oct 20, 2009 3:28 PM CDT up reply actions
How sad
I was really hoping for some wheeling and dealing to go down. Oh well.
About the Chiefs: I'd rather be a realist than a pessimist
by Red N Gold Beast on Oct 20, 2009 3:26 PM CDT reply actions
Have other teams made any interesting trades?
Or any trades period?
"What?!?! I aint no Obama for the weed!"
-Turk McBride
Things could be happening outside of the Trade deadline.
More on the FA side of it all.
Yeah, let's just keep matriculatin' the ball down the field, boys! ...
3 in the 5th?
Where did our 3rd one come from? Wait, I think I may have answered my own question. Please confirm…
1. Original pick
2. Received one for Tyler Thigpen
3. Received one for Tank Tyler
Traded our 6th to Miami for the backup patrol and traded our 7th to NE for the scrub TE that we cut? Or is he still on the PS?
Put this in your pipe and smoke it:
1. Chiefs will be at least 8-8 and vie for division champs
2. DJ will break out and finally have his year
3. LJ returns to form
4. DBowe drops will reduce
by kcchiefsfan72 on Oct 20, 2009 3:40 PM CDT up reply actions
O'Connel is
still on the active roster, although I think that will change shortly with him being cut and signed to the PS.
Unless they haven't been reported yet
I imagine if teams file paperwork with the league office minutes before the deadline it would take a bit for them to be finalized. Crazier things have happened.
by Joel Thorman on Oct 20, 2009 3:35 PM CDT up reply actions
I'd be disappointed to find out there are protagonists in the NFL.
They seem so timely and organized. I’d hate to have that image shattered. lol.
About the Chiefs: I'd rather be a realist than a pessimist
by Red N Gold Beast on Oct 20, 2009 3:40 PM CDT up reply actions
Protagonists???
are you sure you don’t mean procrastinators? :)
Dangit!
There should be no main characters in a novel, play, story or other literary work in the NFL! This is a team sport!
Damn it
I wanted us to trade Goff! A bum in a Giants hat told me they’d take Goff for 50 cents on my lunch break. I promptly paid the man and then emailed Pioli to let him know the deal had gone down.
I expected this to have broken by now
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LMFAO!
That’s a good one!
About the Chiefs: I'd rather be a realist than a pessimist
by Red N Gold Beast on Oct 20, 2009 3:40 PM CDT up reply actions
oh sure, cut a sweet deal like that and then not even share with your brethen at AP
you could at least buy us all a can of silly string to share
Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisiton!
You didn't even tell us it was in the works
Hmmm…sounds like a Pioli ploy to me Mr. P “I’ve Got a Secret” A
"There are few secrets in football. So execute." ~Coach Stram
"I think it's the fans. The place is crazy. It's a good crazy, if you're Kansas City." ~Coach Schottenheimer
by Bad Medicine on Oct 20, 2009 8:38 PM CDT up reply actions
Soooooo
what happens with the open spots on the active roster and PS? I know we can promote someone from the PS but that would leave 2 spots open there. Any thoughts?
Put this in your pipe and smoke it:
1. Chiefs will be at least 8-8 and vie for division champs
2. DJ will break out and finally have his year
3. LJ returns to form
4. DBowe drops will reduce
Is Kolby back on yet?
That might be one spot.
About the Chiefs: I'd rather be a realist than a pessimist
by Red N Gold Beast on Oct 20, 2009 3:43 PM CDT up reply actions
Cheifs NT Replacement?
I seen that the Jets cut Howard Green on Saturday. How long until he becomes a Chief?
Howard Green was signed by the Jets
because kris jenkins tore his acl
by Bestofthewest on Oct 20, 2009 3:50 PM CDT up reply actions
Thats a good question
but i dont think the chiefs will bring anybody in for that spot
by Bestofthewest on Oct 20, 2009 4:03 PM CDT up reply actions
I highly doubt we get any news of further trades
I do think we’ll sign a FA to fill the open spot. Funny thing though, every time I think I know what we need when we have an open roster spot, we bring in something else. By that logic, I’m guessing we don’t bring in another NT! LOL!
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Whom would be Ron Edwards backup?
Wallace Gilberry weighs in at 268 lbs, and Alex Magee weighs in at 298. It should be interesting to see what ends up happening.
Will we see more 4-3 packaging?
Magee was the name that just popped in my mind.
With Dorsey playing better at end, could they be grooming Magee to take over at NT? I don’t know if his measurables are ideal or not, but deffinately some interesting food for thought.
doubt it
Magee is an ideal rotational DE…
Edwards is still the guy at NT, and they will probably sign a backup NT off the street… I’m guessing it’ll be one of those guys that they already worked out
* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season
Maybe
One of our four TEs can find the fifty pounds that Dorsey loss.
Can anyone name another team with four TEs on the roster? Pluse we have Vrabel for goal line.
by Lost in Denver on Oct 20, 2009 4:35 PM CDT up reply actions
Ya kind of expect it.
But maybe they’re happy with doing hybrid things with Magee and Gilberry, who are both 300 pounders. Maybe Tyler wasn’t getting more done with the 1-gap stuff than some of the other guys. Even with everybody trimmed-down, Hali plus any 3 d-linemen still brings more stout, with Edwards giving them a true 0-tech in the middle, when he takes the field. Maybe Magee alone was bringing pretty much what Tyler was bringin’.
No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.
hmm
bit shocked that another name wasnt traded…interesting…still leaves a roster spot and PS spot to fill…Maybe we bring back Derek Lokey.
NT
“who exactly is going backup Ron Edwards at nose tackle, aguably the most physically demanding position in a 3-4 defense?”
Last game the chiefs played a lot of nickle with two DT and then Hali on one end and Vrabel on the other. In those cases you have a few options for DT, e.g., T. Jackson, Dorsey, McGee, etc.
What I am saying is I think they will do some more scheme work with their 4-3 under defense to make up for a lack of NTs (just like they have been doing all along).
Bewsaf
VERY good points, Bewsaf.
The best combo of stout ‘n’ speed on this roster might also be 3-3-5, counting Hali among the LBs. But you could just as easily think of it as 4-3 under, with a little less deep help than, for instance, Pete Carroll would draw up. Deploying McGraw/Brown like a mini-LB brings that little bit of extra closing speed/finishing ability to what the D is trying to accomplish in the O-backfield.
No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.
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