Which Ex-Chief Are You Most Worried About Turning Out To Be Good?
You want to make an omelet? You gotta break a few eggs. You want to rebuild a football team, you gotta get rid of a few good players. The question is, which eggs were the ones that when we break them, poison us and leave us face-down in our huevos rancheros waiting for the kids to come in an find us while Imagination Movers blares on the TV and the dog eats the toast?
The Chiefs have ditched their fair share of guys, many of whom are going to wind up on other teams if they haven't already. But as we've seen over the years, sometimes the guys we give away are the ones that come back to hurt us the most.
The one that always stands out the most to me is Rich Gannon (ptew!). After tempting us all with his promise, the Chiefs' coaching staff foolishly let him walk, resulting in him torturing the Chiefs over several years with the Oakland Raiders of all people. That one just stings.
So the question is, of the players the Chiefs have jettisoned, who are you most afraid of running into down the line?
Candidates after the jump.
1. Bernard Pollard: Pollard was a divisive figure with the Chiefs. Many believed he was a strong part of our future alongside Jared Page as the safety tandem of the future. But Pollard was too bad at everything that wasn't "run in a straight line and hit the guy who's in front of you if anyone's there" (copyright, Corey Mays 2009), and so he was set free. Now with the Texans, the thought of Pollard delivering one of those brutal hits is painful. But the thought of getting to pass against his soft zone coverage is giddying.
2. Tyler Thigpen: Hell hath no fury like a quarterback scorned. No quarterback since Elvis Grbac has sustained the beatdown Thigpen received from fans. When he was leading the team back from the depths of nothing last season (people forget we were on pace to have the worst offense in the history of the NFL before Thigpen showed up), people claimed he could never be an NFL starting QB, and relentlessly waited for him to start playing like crap. When that didn't work, they attributed all of his success to the Arrowspread, not to mention that each team had tape on the Arrowspread and Thigpen made it work. Getting burned by Thigpen the next time we play Jax would be bad news bears.
3. Monty Beisel: I was going to write up a review of him, but while trying to, I watched the words sail out of my brain and land on the carpet, splat. Then they rolled out the door. I didn't try and stop them, I just watched them roll harmlessly out of my office.
4. Barry Richardson: Oh, Berry Richardson will have his revenge. He'll bring his revenge in front of him as he stands between us, and then allow his revenge to whoosh by him and destroy us. That is Barry Richrdson's way, you see.
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I thought Richardson was on the PS...no?
Don't Fuccop Succop
by chicks_love_chiefs on Oct 2, 2009 12:05 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I Thought So Too
Moderator - Arrowhead Pride
Predictions for 2009
1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
6. The Chiefs will go 7-9 in 2009, good for 2nd in the AFC West. Revision: We go 5-11 and finish behind Oakland.
7. Ryan Succop will not perform better in 2009 than Connor Barth did in 2008.
8. The Chiefs will have a bottom 10 defense this year.
9. RB will be a problem area this season on offense.
by UCrawford on Oct 2, 2009 12:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think you’re right. He was cut for O’Callaghan and added to the PS.
by JComp11 on Oct 2, 2009 12:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If he is on the PS then how can he play against us?
I don’t think any other team sees any potential in him.
by Wrestler189s on Oct 2, 2009 1:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I Think He's Got Some Marginal Potential
If he doesn’t display it this year, however, he’ll be gone next year. I think this is the last year he’s PS eligible.
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Predictions for 2009
1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
6. The Chiefs will go 7-9 in 2009, good for 2nd in the AFC West. Revision: We go 5-11 and finish behind Oakland.
7. Ryan Succop will not perform better in 2009 than Connor Barth did in 2008.
8. The Chiefs will have a bottom 10 defense this year.
9. RB will be a problem area this season on offense.
by UCrawford on Oct 2, 2009 2:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Whats his name...Tony something.....
I’m most worried about a guy named Tony Gonzalez being good……he used to play for the chiefs……..I think………..
…….
by TonylovesKC on Oct 2, 2009 7:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
To be honest, I'm not worried about any of them turning out to be good.
As long as they don’t end up in the AFC West or playing against us in the playoffs, I wish them the best of luck.
by ktr17x on Oct 2, 2009 12:06 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm not worried about any of these guys...
I wish them the best of luck….but if the Chiefs were playing them, I wouldn’t be scared. If we were facing Thiggs…I’d be pumped up. He did alright for us, and I thank him….but if he was the starting QB against us I wouldn’t be scared at all.
Jeff Webb on the other hand…
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by chicks_love_chiefs on Oct 2, 2009 12:08 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Got To Agree
I think a couple of them might turn out to be good players that could have helped the team, but none of them strike fear into my heart that they’ll single-handedly destroy the Chiefs. I’m more irritated with things like the Pollard cut in that I don’t think we upgraded by replacing him.
Moderator - Arrowhead Pride
Predictions for 2009
1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
6. The Chiefs will go 7-9 in 2009, good for 2nd in the AFC West. Revision: We go 5-11 and finish behind Oakland.
7. Ryan Succop will not perform better in 2009 than Connor Barth did in 2008.
8. The Chiefs will have a bottom 10 defense this year.
9. RB will be a problem area this season on offense.
by UCrawford on Oct 2, 2009 1:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sammie Parker!
He’s plotting his revenge, guys!
by jonnyu on Oct 2, 2009 12:14 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Yep him, Snoop Minis, Bobby Sippio, and Eddie Drummond
Don't Fuccop Succop
by chicks_love_chiefs on Oct 2, 2009 12:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sylvestor Morris is the master plotter
"I will fight you!"
"What is your weapon?"
"My bare hands!"
"That is stupid. I will use a sword and I will cut off your bare hands."
by CT Chief Fan on Oct 2, 2009 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thigpen went to Miami not Jax
and you for got TG on the list.
Chiefs set an NFL most roster changes in 1 season.
by bringbacktheglory on Oct 2, 2009 12:19 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I think tony's a special case
so I didn’t include him.
The Miami/Jax thing? I have no excuse it was late. My bad.
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by Ridiculous Matt on Oct 2, 2009 2:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You guys aren't worried, thats dumb...
Just because they didnt play well for a poor run organization like the Chiefs doesnt mean they wont suceed in two well ran organizations. The Chiefs are known for bad coaching and bad management. Its not the draft picks we choostare just ll bad, The Chiefs just couldnt develop them. Thats managements fault and coaching staff. We will see how this new staff does.So far they have done poor.
by dougritchey on Oct 2, 2009 12:19 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
They who are you afraid of?
No one on that list I hope…
Don't Fuccop Succop
by chicks_love_chiefs on Oct 2, 2009 12:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm having trouble understanding what you said there...
Bask in the glory that is Kwame Harris. Poor Alex...
by JHWK on Oct 2, 2009 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
None of the above
I still like Pollard, but he’s not the kind of Safety you have to worry about hurting you with interceptions.
Tyler Thigpen is probably going to be a 3rd stringer for the rest of his career.
Honestly, none of the guys let go SO FAR are guys that I think we will be pining for down the road.
by ChiefDJ on Oct 2, 2009 12:23 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Poor Management and Coaching
Dougritchey I wouldn’t mind hearing your thoughts on why Management and the coaching staff has done poor so far? To me it seems like we are headed in the right direction. Seems the only thing we are lacking to be competitive is offensive linemen.
by groundedchevy on Oct 2, 2009 12:24 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Only lacking an offensive linemen?
Might want to do something about that defense thats giving up 4-500 yards a game don’t you think?
by ChiefDJ on Oct 2, 2009 12:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Defenses that are on the field for 40 minutes
give up a lot of yards. Our offense not getting a sustained drive effects the defense and wears them down.
by ChiefsfanJon on Oct 2, 2009 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good defenses that shut down drives aren't on the field all day
Yeah the offense stunk. But if our defense was good it would be stopping the other team from driving on them and they wouldn’t be out there all day.
“Our offense can’t stay on the field” is a horrible excuse.
by ChiefDJ on Oct 2, 2009 3:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Only lacking an offensive linemen?
Notice he didn’t say an offensive lineman. We need 3, maybe 4 (Waters has done little to impress me so far this year) o-linemen.
Ryan Succop will be the kicker for the AFC in the 2011 Pro Bowl
by PVChiefsfan on Oct 2, 2009 1:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Excatly
Even the penalties on Albert need to be corrected ASAP. Just from watching our games I don’t see that any of our young players have taken a step back with the new coaching staff. If anything I think that have taken a step forward even if it is a small step. Did anyone see bowe lay good blocks last year? Just seems like we have a good QB, decent receiving core, capable running backs, defensive line looks good(especially for the future), Linebackers could be stronger, and our secondary has a lot of potential. Just seems like if we had an O-Line at all we would be able to pull out some wins. I have been impressed the poise of Cassel in the pocket when there hasn’t been a pocket at all. Just reminds me of Warner.
by groundedchevy on Oct 2, 2009 2:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Other - "TURK MCBRIDE"
Turk’s gonna develop into a pretty good 4-3 defensive end. Should Detroit be on our schedule and our o-lines not improved, LOOK OUT MATT !
Turk will cut a deal with Brian Waters to let him by untouched and crush Cassel !
by CJ-in-2018 on Oct 2, 2009 12:34 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Good One! +1
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by Chief_Elmo on Oct 2, 2009 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pollard for sure
Not worried about Thigpen. He was cut because we have a QB with better upside in place.
Pollard’s a different story, because if he had any kind of talent, then there is no excuse for cutting him in favor of a few older guys like McGraw and Mike Brown who only have a few years of gas left in the tank. I still think Pollard was cut moreso because of his ties to the previous administration than he was for being bad.
by Jon Yoon on Oct 2, 2009 12:37 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
He was cut
because in three years he never displayed an indication that he could be a sure tackler.
Ryan Succop will be the kicker for the AFC in the 2011 Pro Bowl
by PVChiefsfan on Oct 2, 2009 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
not too worried
I believe that the Chiefs are headed in the right direction but if you get cut by the chiefs at this point (Bernard Pollard)..how good can you really be?…I’m just glad thigbone is gone so we dont have to talk about him anymore.
Turk is actually someone who I will keep an eye on. Maybe in a 4-3 he could be better
by dwil2009 on Oct 2, 2009 12:37 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
still waiting for
The Andre Rison comeback…..
"I will fight you!"
"What is your weapon?"
"My bare hands!"
"That is stupid. I will use a sword and I will cut off your bare hands."
by CT Chief Fan on Oct 2, 2009 12:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Jared Allen
One day we’ll meet in the superbowl, Favre still won’t have retired, Allen will storm out of the backfield to sack Cassel’s grandson for the fifth time so we’ll run a draw play on 3rd and long but Larry’s Zimmer frame will get stuck in the turf.
Blame my wife!
Waiting until August!
by sir eccles on Oct 2, 2009 12:46 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Chiefs win 23-7
Don't Fuccop Succop
by chicks_love_chiefs on Oct 2, 2009 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
People might
think this one isnt a big impact but…..Letting T-Rich go was the biggest mistake we made at the FB position, we havent been able to replace him since, although Cox may turn out to be decent Rich could do it all run catch and a hell of a blocker
Great players dont win championships.....Great TEAMS win championships
by DT58forever on Oct 2, 2009 12:53 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Oh come on
People are so hung up on Tony Richardson. HE WAS A FULLBACK!
Was he a good one? Sure. But the Chiefs miss Richardson MUCH less than they miss Will Shields.
Larry Johnson had 1700+ yard season without Richardson. He hasn’t even been close since Shields left.
by ChiefDJ on Oct 2, 2009 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah but Shields retired,
WE TRADED T_RICH.
by GHOST OF DT on Oct 2, 2009 1:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No we didn't
He was let go in free agency.
by ChiefDJ on Oct 2, 2009 3:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So
you were happy with Cris Wilson I take it…I mean the guy was so versatile lol
Great players dont win championships.....Great TEAMS win championships
by DT58forever on Oct 2, 2009 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just saying
That the difference between a great fullback and an average fullback does not make the difference between a succesful offense and a bad one.
by ChiefDJ on Oct 2, 2009 3:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'll TOTALLY agree with that.
T-Rich was one of the most valuable peices in the Vermiel era offense. When he was traded, our running game went downhill instantly. Jason Dunn too. When Richardson got hurt, our offense sucked for the rest of that season. Vermiel was pissed because he said he had to cut the playbook in half w/o T-Rich. He should have retired as a Chief IMO.
Roaf and Shields usually get the credit for the great run blocking from that era but, if you ask me T-Rich and Dunn were just as if not more instrumental to the success of Priest and LJ.
by Chiefsfan1970 on Oct 2, 2009 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Speaking of historical gaffes
Remember when Carl was bumping up against the cap and chose to sign Eric Warfield over Donnie Edwards? I had a conniption over that one. Too many people thought Warfield could turn into a shutdown corner, including the Front Office.
That one doesn’t hurt as much as Gannon-Grbac, obviously, but it’s way up there.
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by chiefstatnut on Oct 2, 2009 12:58 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Kaiwki Mitchell? Joe Horn?
Joe Horn rode the Cheifs bench for a few yrs…..left for NO and became a Pro Bowler….Mitchell, well, should have never let that guy get out the door…FYI….T Rich, blocked for Holmes, LJ,….and Adrian Peterson…is it just a coincidence that they all lead the league in rushing with him out and front?
by KCinAZ on Oct 2, 2009 1:06 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Mitchell
I personally think Mitchell is an average linebacker. I remember being happy when we released him. I don’t think anyone would mention his name if he didn’t happen to go to a team setup to make a superbowl run. Seems like this is an example of the best 53 players not the best players. If anyone mentions Tynes I’m going to scream. That guy is not a good kicker.
by groundedchevy on Oct 2, 2009 1:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mitchell's last game as a Chiefs was so bad I wanted him gone too...
He looked so slow, and so terrible in pass coverage that game.
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by chicks_love_chiefs on Oct 2, 2009 2:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Because Gunther never saw a LB he didn't want to play safety.
No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.
by hmills110 on Oct 2, 2009 9:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Total joke
How many years were we supposed to wait for Joe Horn to develop?! The guy was not a good player for the Chiefs. There was no indication he was EVER going to be a good player for the Chiefs. Let it go.
Mitchell was, is and always will be a very average linebacker. We lost nothing by letting him walk.
People need to stop thinking that all these guys the leave the Chiefs are stars because they go off to a winning team and you see their name on Sportscenter every once in a while and say “HOLY CRAP! WE SHOULD NEVER HAVE LET LAWRENCE TYNES GO! HE’S KICKING IN THE SUPER BOWL!”
Who cares? These guys were not good players for the Chiefs. They went somewhere else and did OK. Good for them.
by ChiefDJ on Oct 2, 2009 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mitchell was average but he was better than who we had to replace him with at the time.
Chiefs set an NFL most roster changes in 1 season.
by bringbacktheglory on Oct 2, 2009 8:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Brad Cottam
Oh wait. He hasn’t been cut yet.
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by KansasCityShuffle on Oct 2, 2009 1:09 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Tony G
It will be fun to compare our second round pick that we got for Tony G next yr…hmmm…wonder how he is gonna stack up
by KCinAZ on Oct 2, 2009 1:12 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Worst Ex Chief Deal...
The worst deal the Chiefs—I’m a diehard fan since Dawson days, made was NOT RESIGNING Neil Smith prior to the 97-98 season. He was allowed to sign w/Denver and we all know what happened that year as well as the following year. Dan Williams was a somewhat nice fill-in but didn’t keep the consistency as Neil. I like the nucleus we have now on defense; Dorsey, Jackson, D. Johnson, and in time we’ll be back to the 90s form, except better playoff results.
by GRBAC11 on Oct 2, 2009 1:52 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
None
That should have been an option to choose from.
2009-10 Predictions:
1. Chiefs will win ATLEAST 6 games, which is a big improvement over 6 wins in 2 seasons
2. Succop will bring stability to the K position for the first time in years
3. Chiefs D will atleast double the number of sacks form last season
4. Cassel will be a top 15 QB
5. Todd Haley won't make a poster and jump around holding it up welcoming the Chiefs players to summer camp, I mean TRAINING camp
by Chiefs_KC on Oct 2, 2009 2:13 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
+1
None will be a star. Besides they aren’t Chiefs anymore. I don’t think about them at all, just the players on the roster. We could still be bemoaning the fact that we drafted Todd Blackledge instead of Dan Marino…
I remember Dawson to Taylor, Kenney to Carson, and Blackledge catching the snap in his facemask. Seen it all...
by BinSC on Oct 2, 2009 2:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Definitely thigpen
If he can up his accuracy he could be quite deadly with his mobility.
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by Scaryclouds on Oct 2, 2009 2:15 PM CDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
But he can't
Especially not sitting on the bench.
by ChiefDJ on Oct 2, 2009 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thigpen Might Turn Into Something In Miami
But there was really no place for him here…Cassel was the QB and they’re committed to him. So trading Thigpen didn’t bother me much (even though I did like the guy).
Moderator - Arrowhead Pride
Predictions for 2009
1. Todd Haley's going to struggle with managing his staff in his rookie year as head coach.
6. The Chiefs will go 7-9 in 2009, good for 2nd in the AFC West. Revision: We go 5-11 and finish behind Oakland.
7. Ryan Succop will not perform better in 2009 than Connor Barth did in 2008.
8. The Chiefs will have a bottom 10 defense this year.
9. RB will be a problem area this season on offense.
by UCrawford on Oct 2, 2009 3:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
none oof those players worry me....
I can’t see any of those players being more than backups. I think they were all good moves by Pioli in his epic “process” of developing a winner here in KC.
by jjbjhawk on Oct 2, 2009 7:02 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

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