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Chiefs Trade Tank Tyler to Panthers

Josh Looney of KCChiefs.com is reporting the Kansas City Chiefs have traded defensive tackle Tank Tyler to the Carolina Panthers for an undisclosed draft pick.

Update 8:40 PM - Kent Babb says it's for a 5th round pick in 2010.

Tyler was a third round draft pick in the 2007 draft.  This means that only Kolby Smith and Dwayne Bowe remain from that draft class.

We have no clue what the draft pick is.  I'm hearing people throw around a 5th or 6th rounder, which is just speculation at this point but it that makes some sense.  Remember, though, the Panthers are desperate for defensive tackles.

The Panthers recently signed veteran defensive tackle Hollis Thomas because they've been reeling at defensive tackle.  Starter Maake Kemoeatu was lost for the season on the first day of the training camp only to be following by the loss of his replacement, Louis Leonard, seven weeks later.

And now the Chiefs are desperate for defensive tackles.  Funny...just yesterday we talked to Ron Edwards in the locker room about how difficult it is to play zero technique in the NFL.  It was brought up that the rotation helps.

Dion Gales took nose tackle reps throughout training camp although he's currently on the practice squad.

On October 10th, we heard that the Chiefs had recently worked out three defensive tackles including William Joseph, Tim Anderson and Marlon Favorite.  An LSU grad, Favorite, was coincindentally with the Panthers until the last round of final cuts.  As we told you a few weeks ago, his signing could mean the Chiefs can line up an all-LSU defensive line.

Of course this now means that the Chiefs have one active roster spot available and one practice squad spot.

We've compiled a list of Tank-related stories for you after the jump.

(Thanks to acefan101 for the heads up)

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Mock Draft Tracker Update #3
The Chiefs need help at DT and WR, the choice comes down Tank Tyler, Dwayne Bowe, and Sidney Rice. I think it is about time the Chiefs finally invest in a wide receiver and I like Rice better than Bowe, primarily because of Rice's speed.

Kansas City Chiefs Sign Tank Tyler and Herb Taylor
The agent for each player said his client agreed to terms of a three-year contract. Still without agreements were first-round wide receiver Dwayne Bowe, second-round defensive lineman Turk McBride and fifth-round kicker Justin Medlock. The Chiefs also continued to work on a contract extension for running back Larry Johnson. The sides were still far from an agreement, making Johnson unlikely to be with the Chiefs on Thursday when they leave for training camp in River Falls, Wis., or Friday, when they will practice for the first time.

The Chiefs Defensive Linemen Appear in Reality TV Show
This may be the ideal Sunday morning post. Here are two clips of Tank Tyler and Turk McBride, who we should just get used to calling Tank & Turk as if it was one person. This is something about a reality TV demo.

Chiefs NT Tank Tyler: 'Why wait? We have to aim high'
"I'm kinda the anchor in the middle. I'm right in front of the center so i'm holding him up. I got close to contact which is great for me. I can attack faster. I have to be on the guard all the time. I'm thinking I'm gonna play a little bit of everything, from down in the nose tackle out to three technique on third down."

Kansas City Chiefs NT Tank Tyler: 'We can't allow them to score'
"The thing that gets to me is when the offense got things going scoring a touchdown and pushes us ahead in the game, our defensive mentality, I feel that it has out of this world for the other team not to score because now the game is dependent on us. The offense put us in the position to be leading the game and we can't allow them to score. "We let them do that repeatedly yesterday on a few drives. That kind of disturbed me."

Chiefs Make Changes at Right Tackle, Nose Tackle
There's also a new starter at nose tackle: Ron Edwards Tank Tyler has been the No. 1 nose tackle since the beginning of the season and started the first two games. Edwards got the starting nod against the Eagles on Sunday.

Chiefs Work Out Three Defensive Tackles
We're not quite sure if this means Todd Haley is unhappy with the nose tackle position. It appears that he's at least willing to search for an upgrade, or maybe just depth to supplement the current tackles Tank Tyler and Ron Edwards. I've previously given my support to Tyler who appears to have the tools to win the job.

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this is crazy

I guess the love Ron Edwards, or have another NT in mind???

it would clear a roster spot for Banta-Cain….

* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season

by stagdsp on Oct 19, 2009 8:10 PM CDT reply actions  

There was a post

on here about 3 weeks ago where we were trying out 3 NT. Think one was from LSU a couple of years ago.

by ttownmikey on Oct 19, 2009 8:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

right, and william joseph

problem was the lack of a NT with starting experience.

interesting, but I love it…I just LOVE the move, we need picks…I know people are sick of hearing it but we actually have a scouting department now

by SDChief on Oct 19, 2009 8:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

A 5th or a 6th..

I hardly think that is a good deal. How could you be this “Mastermind” if you loss value like that. Its not like he has been a slouch this season either. 22 tackles in what 3 starts. I hope it is more then a 5th or 6th. Otherwise, I would even Question whether people have exagerated all the hype about Pioli.

by darwithabar on Oct 19, 2009 8:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

even a 5th is not that high, and Tyler was a 3rd ...

although it does give us an extra pick that COULD be packaged in a trade or whatever later on down the road

Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisiton!

by upamtn on Oct 19, 2009 9:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

tyler was a 3rd but i don't know

if his performance has been worthy of his draft slot. i’m not crazy about this trade because you don’t normally find real good players in the 5th or 6th rounds

Never kick a fresh turd on a hot day.
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by kcguy on Oct 19, 2009 9:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

B. Carr was a 5th rounder.

Although he was probably the exception, and not the rule. I think Kolby Smith was also a fifth rounder, but the jury is still out on that pick. I think this trade really boils down to KC needing a dominant NT and both Edwards and Tyler are not the guy. Therefore, lets trade the one that still has some value. Edwards and whatever other NT they sign will hold down the fort until next year when a legitiamte NT is obtained

by Fourstrike89 on Oct 19, 2009 9:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

precisely, exception not the rule ... not that talent can't be had in lower rounds

case in point: Ryan Not Very Irrelevant Now Succop … you just have to get very, very lucky to find said talent …

it’s all a crapshoot, you never know which one will work, which one won’t, it’s all a “best guess” thing … in theory (only in theory) the higher round picks are better players/more talent and have a better chance to succeed (or at least a higher % of them succeed) but there’s NEVER a guarantee no matter how high the pick

you pay your dime and you take your chances

Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisiton!

by upamtn on Oct 19, 2009 9:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

yep,

and based on Tanks production so far, I am ready to try the crapshoot with a fifth round pick. I would say that Tank is a known commodity at this point.

by Fourstrike89 on Oct 19, 2009 9:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

its a pick who cares what round we can always trade up

things happen we can also use a couple picks to get better players in a package deal either way pioli is making moves to better our team tank was nothing very special he was decent

FOUR F'S FIND UM FEEL UM FUGUM FORGET UM.

by sexassassin on Oct 19, 2009 11:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

wow a team without a NT, sorry Ron Edwards, trades a DT...interesting

he does fit the 4-3 a bit better.

wonder how many trades are on the way considering

NO ONE saw this one coming, I thought maybe we wouldnt sign him or cut him at the end of the year…but deal him? how is he even worth a pick…cool…ed johnson wasnt

by SDChief on Oct 19, 2009 8:12 PM CDT reply actions  

i did

predicted back when they brought in the other linemen on that post…ok gloating done for the night.

by MountainManMike on Oct 20, 2009 12:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think hes worth more to the fans, but to the actual team? I never saw much, Dunno

but thigpen was only a 5…and he started in the nfl at QB and performed well enough

by SDChief on Oct 19, 2009 8:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

I dont remember where i saw it

but he was 2nd leading tackler by DT last week

by cassel4prez on Oct 19, 2009 8:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

I hear that

I just believe hes a 4-3 DT, I think this team needs a 3-4 NT, look at SD and how their D suffers without williams, or titans minus haynesworth

by SDChief on Oct 19, 2009 8:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't think that's right.

I think Tank was a 3-4 NT and we switched him to a 4-3 DT here and he struggled. Since we moved him back to his ‘natural’ position at NT, he looks like a whole different person.

Frankly, I’m not a fan of Ron Edwards and would’ve rather the Chiefs dealt him and continued to develop Tank as I feel Tank has more upside.

by JacinB on Oct 20, 2009 8:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

has Thigpin terms been announced?

I heard it was undisclosed (conditional) and speculated to be a 5th. Has it been confirmed to be a 5th?

by chrisclark_dfw on Oct 19, 2009 8:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

6 probably makes sense

but i’m hoping pioli could pull off a 5th or higher. i mean the guy was a 3rd rounder and should have gone higher… 24 years old, strong as hell, no character issues in the nfl, a year of starting experience, can play in both the 3-4 and 4-3, played pretty decent this year.

by Vince D on Oct 19, 2009 8:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

yeah, I'm betting it's a 5 or a 4

we’ll see

* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season

by stagdsp on Oct 19, 2009 8:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Might it be conditional, based on how much/well Tank plays?

Toby is in HR, which technically means he works for corporate, so he's really not a part of our family. Also, he's divorced, so he's really not a part of his family.

by Rev. Slappy on Oct 19, 2009 8:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

Interesting

I wonder what they have in mind now for NT maybe a upcoming trade?

by Zargg on Oct 19, 2009 8:13 PM CDT reply actions  

I was starting to wonder

if any trade news was going to break? Will there be more news comming???

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by GanjaChief on Oct 19, 2009 8:14 PM CDT reply actions  

ohh i feel like a dumbass

I thought today at 4 was the deadline…

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by GanjaChief on Oct 19, 2009 8:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

???

huh?

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by GanjaChief on Oct 19, 2009 8:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

HA

yeah gotta love the herb….

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by GanjaChief on Oct 19, 2009 8:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

...lucky

Im in Kansas so its good ol’ mexican ditch weed roll’n it for all its worth

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by GanjaChief on Oct 19, 2009 8:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

There is legit grass in KS and MO.

Lots of good stuff coming through Wichita.

"What?!?! I aint no Obama for the weed!"
-Turk McBride

by HIV 2 Elway on Oct 19, 2009 8:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

Im west of Wichita… im not trashing on ii but I KNOW there is better in Cali

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by GanjaChief on Oct 19, 2009 8:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

well... most anyone is available for a price

I don’t mind the trade, assuming there’s another NT in sight…

stockpile some picks!!!

* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season

by stagdsp on Oct 19, 2009 8:14 PM CDT reply actions  

Open Spots

We do have a couple open roster spots so expect some changes.

by Zargg on Oct 19, 2009 8:16 PM CDT reply actions  

I actually got

To meet tank. I ran into him at the Sheraton next to arrowhead. Pretty sweet but he acted like I was annoying him, and I probably was, when I asked for a picture with him.

by raiderhater77 on Oct 19, 2009 8:18 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

Hmmmm

I understand wanting to stockpile draftpicks, but this is going to really impact the depth. What if Ron Edwards pulls a Kris Jenkins?…we’re screwed.

Week 7 Prediction:
Kansas City Chiefs 77 - San Diego Chargers 2

by craig in calgary on Oct 19, 2009 8:20 PM CDT reply actions  

im not impressed with Edwards

ill bet there will be a major replacement… well I HOPE

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by GanjaChief on Oct 19, 2009 8:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

my guess...

no-name replacement (one of the 3 listed above) for the rest of the year
big time NT next year

* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season

by stagdsp on Oct 19, 2009 8:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Woohoo!

We can waste another draft pick on the D-Line instead of fixing the O-Line! Alright!

by JacinB on Oct 20, 2009 8:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

but, they have another pick to use on the O Line now...

* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season

by stagdsp on Oct 20, 2009 5:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Package with Julius Peppers and/or Steve Smith?

Week 7 Prediction:
Kansas City Chiefs 77 - San Diego Chargers 2

by craig in calgary on Oct 19, 2009 8:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

I like the AND you put in there.

Man it’s so hard to know for sure Craig. I think Pioli is definately working on something right now, we should know tomorrow for sure.

Yeah, let's just keep matriculatin' the ball down the field, boys! ...

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by oldchiefsfan on Oct 19, 2009 8:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Haha

I’d love if this was the tip of the iceburg on a huge blockbuster!

Week 7 Prediction:
Kansas City Chiefs 77 - San Diego Chargers 2

by craig in calgary on Oct 19, 2009 8:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well.......

Peppers was whining about wanting to play in a 3-4. I see him when I’m out here in Charlotte, and he is definitely unhappy here.

by Hail2DaChiefs on Oct 19, 2009 9:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hope we got more than a 5th rounder for him

I have no idea why they dropped Tank after that awesome 7 tackle game, but I really hope they aren’t just dishing out players from the former regime for 6th and 7th rounders just to unload them.

by ChiefDJ on Oct 19, 2009 8:24 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

Hmm

I think pioli already has his mind made up on suh. He was at the mizzou-nebraska game scouting. They’re going to get a NT for the 3-4.

by raiderhater77 on Oct 19, 2009 8:24 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

Booooooooooooooooooo

Week 7 Prediction:
Kansas City Chiefs 77 - San Diego Chargers 2

by craig in calgary on Oct 19, 2009 8:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

yeah another def lineman in the first?

I guess if it is the right decision than its the right decision.

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by GanjaChief on Oct 19, 2009 8:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

well

I REALLY dont want to take ANOTHER DL

but….After seeing the difference in a 3-4 with a NT and without…where GREAT LB’s cant do ANYTHING without a good NT…see SD….

I think it may have to be a NT, then load up on OL talent.

by SDChief on Oct 19, 2009 8:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

If we take another DL in the first round

We better have made some damn good FA signings or trades for the O line. I’m sick of seeing so much of our first day draft stock going into D line. We have a hell of a lot of other needs.

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by Big Chief on Oct 19, 2009 10:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Cody isn't good enough to justify that high of a pick.

He is late first or early second guy. He’s a two down NT.

"Leave the gun. Take the cannoli."

"Mr. Pioli is a man who insists on hearing bad news immediately."

"Never tell anybody outside the family what you're thinking again."

by Don Piolie's Consigliere on Oct 20, 2009 1:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

so you move down, get more picks, this team MUST get a NT

cant have success in the 3/4 without it no matter who you Lb’s are

by SDChief on Oct 20, 2009 1:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

I agree

Just not with our #1 in this draft, unless there is somebody out there I don’t know about. Which may be.

"Leave the gun. Take the cannoli."

"Mr. Pioli is a man who insists on hearing bad news immediately."

"Never tell anybody outside the family what you're thinking again."

by Don Piolie's Consigliere on Oct 20, 2009 1:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

The problem is we're probably going to draft pretty high.

In which case it is rare that other teams will trade for a high first round draft choice.

by Primussux on Oct 20, 2009 1:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

OK

All I’m saying is I think Cody will be a reach at #20. So if that’s our target we have to package some picks and move up to get him. No way should we take him with a top 10 pick. IMHO

"Leave the gun. Take the cannoli."

"Mr. Pioli is a man who insists on hearing bad news immediately."

"Never tell anybody outside the family what you're thinking again."

by Don Piolie's Consigliere on Oct 20, 2009 2:07 AM CDT up reply actions  

well... 2 problems with that theory

Suh projects as a DE, I believe… not a NT

Suh might not be there when KC picks…

* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season

by stagdsp on Oct 19, 2009 8:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Suh would be a DE

I would rather have Boo in the third than Cody

by BAMFSpecialOps on Oct 19, 2009 8:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

+1

* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season

by stagdsp on Oct 19, 2009 8:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

+2

We Will kick at least 4 Teams Asses in 09
And Succop will be the Key in two of them.
" Think and talk positive football off the field." Hank Stram

by Steve_Chiefs on Oct 19, 2009 8:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

I wonder...

if they will use Magee as the backup NT and bring one of the DE off of the practice squad. Magee did play some DT in collage.

by ICTChief on Oct 19, 2009 8:26 PM CDT reply actions  

Magee

Is he fat big enough to play NT?

Week 7 Prediction:
Kansas City Chiefs 77 - San Diego Chargers 2

by craig in calgary on Oct 19, 2009 8:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

I dont think so....

he would get thrown around, IMO. College DT is way different than Pro DT.

by Wrestler189s on Oct 19, 2009 8:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

I suspect he was already bringin' pretty much what Tank brought, and we'll see more of him in the middle.

But yeah, at 295, he’s not quite built like a NT. Thing is, KC was doing a lot of stunting and gap-shooting with Tank in there – more of a 4-3 under look and feel when he’s on the field. More of a true 3-4 look and feel with Edwards.

No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.

by hmills110 on Oct 19, 2009 9:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wow...

this was a huge surprise. Maybe they saw a bit more from the guys they worked out than they have from Tank. Good for him though. Hope it was at least a 4th rounder…a 5th seems ok and a 6th seems too low.

by Wrestler189s on Oct 19, 2009 8:27 PM CDT reply actions  

It depends I think

If Carolina called us, we have all the cards and Pioli doesn’t have to trade him. But if we called them shopping Tank around, it could be pretty low.

by Vince D on Oct 19, 2009 8:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

I dont think we called anybody...

We werent doing bad at the NT position…gotta be a 4th or 5th.

by Wrestler189s on Oct 19, 2009 8:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

+1

* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season

by stagdsp on Oct 19, 2009 8:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

You can't tell me

No one saw this coming. The NT is the most important position in the 3-4. They’re going to get a real one. I just didn’t think they would trade until the off season.

by raiderhater77 on Oct 19, 2009 8:29 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

I will be impressed if

Pioli pulls off a 5th rounder. That being said, I’m not sure I understand trading him. Doesn’t bother me a whole lot though.

by KCMizzou on Oct 19, 2009 8:30 PM CDT reply actions  

Somebody will be here soon to replace him.

A big time nose tackle will be acquired one way or the other during the off season. What I am worried about is playing out the rest of this season.

by G.L. on Oct 19, 2009 8:30 PM CDT reply actions  

Yup.

No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.

by hmills110 on Oct 19, 2009 9:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Talked to Ron Edwards in the locker room yesterday

He was talking about how tough you have to be to play zero technique (NT) in the NFL. And it was brought up that the Chiefs rotate their d-tackles but Edwards was still out there quite a bit.

And he might have the biggest arms on the team.

by Joel Thorman on Oct 19, 2009 8:30 PM CDT reply actions  

I hope he stays for awhile, I like Ron Edwards

I do think those that feel we will acquire a NT may be a bit off, its TOUGH to just go get a starting NT…

by SDChief on Oct 19, 2009 8:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

And he is

a huge lead blocker at fullback!

by ttownmikey on Oct 19, 2009 8:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

There's your answer then - toughness

coaching staff questioned it for a while too. Good complementary player but we need a big time NT in the middle. If we get that, we have the makings of a dominant D-line

by golfbard on Oct 19, 2009 8:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's funny stagsdp

We are going to run the table now

by raiderhater77 on Oct 19, 2009 8:31 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

what?

* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season

by stagdsp on Oct 19, 2009 8:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wrong thread?

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by Chris Thorman on Oct 19, 2009 8:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

Mobile reply fail

Week 7 Prediction:
Kansas City Chiefs 77 - San Diego Chargers 2

by craig in calgary on Oct 19, 2009 8:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

does this just open up a spot to activate kolby smith?

i hope that’s not why they did it

Never kick a fresh turd on a hot day.
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by kcguy on Oct 19, 2009 8:36 PM CDT reply actions  

I was just kidding

About when you said suh may not be there when we pick. I hope not but I’m not counting on it.

by raiderhater77 on Oct 19, 2009 8:36 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

oh

well, Suh is projected as a top 3 pick in some areas… and we will be hard pressed to finish worse than St Louis, Tampa Bay, Browns, and others

* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season

by stagdsp on Oct 19, 2009 8:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

off subject but

Iv never been on here when news broke this is pretty F’n cool

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by GanjaChief on Oct 19, 2009 8:37 PM CDT reply actions  

Wow - Eddie Royal

Maybe we could trade Terrance Copper to the Chargers for a 2nd round pick :)

Week 7 Prediction:
Kansas City Chiefs 77 - San Diego Chargers 2

by craig in calgary on Oct 19, 2009 8:40 PM CDT reply actions  

did royal score???

Im playing him in fantasy….

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by GanjaChief on Oct 19, 2009 8:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

2 TD's

1 punt and 1 KO return.

Week 7 Prediction:
Kansas City Chiefs 77 - San Diego Chargers 2

by craig in calgary on Oct 19, 2009 8:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't think they count for FF tho

Week 7 Prediction:
Kansas City Chiefs 77 - San Diego Chargers 2

by craig in calgary on Oct 19, 2009 8:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Most do

depending on the settings. If they don’t, shame on them.

by KCMizzou on Oct 19, 2009 8:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

In my league return TD's only count for DST

Week 7 Prediction:
Kansas City Chiefs 77 - San Diego Chargers 2

by craig in calgary on Oct 19, 2009 8:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah,

some leagues do it differently.

by KCMizzou on Oct 19, 2009 8:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

well i got 12 pts from him

so its all good

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by GanjaChief on Oct 19, 2009 8:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

thx guys

Im gonna go check it out…

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by GanjaChief on Oct 19, 2009 8:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

I just read from Babb

that it’s a 5th rounder. I’m good with it now.

by KCMizzou on Oct 19, 2009 8:40 PM CDT reply actions  

Yep, thanks

Updating the post now.

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by Chris Thorman on Oct 19, 2009 8:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

Kent Babbs twitter

by BiiG_C on Oct 19, 2009 8:41 PM CDT reply actions  

5th rounder

for a guy who will, most likely, be a career backup? I’m good.

by KCMizzou on Oct 19, 2009 8:41 PM CDT reply actions  

Why doesn't

whenever trades get done say they traded “so and so” for an UNDISCLOSED draft pick? Why the hell can’t they just say when the trade was made?

by Wrestler189s on Oct 19, 2009 8:42 PM CDT reply actions  

Well be set up for a great draft

As long as we can stay out of the top 5. Someone will want to trade with us for brafdford, McCoy, or tebow. Well maybe not tebow.

by raiderhater77 on Oct 19, 2009 8:42 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

So far does anybody know

what our draft looks like as of now?
1-1st
2-2nd
1-3rd
1-4th
3-5th
1-6th
Are those right?

by Wrestler189s on Oct 19, 2009 8:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Joel knows....

He had a post on it recently.

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by Chris Thorman on Oct 19, 2009 8:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

6th

was traded to Miami for the 2 o-lineman.

by ICTChief on Oct 19, 2009 8:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

no 6th... that's Ndukwe and Alleman

* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season

by stagdsp on Oct 19, 2009 8:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Damn no 6th.

Oh well hopefully we make those ones count

by Wrestler189s on Oct 19, 2009 8:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

stoked a 5, NICE

kind of excited for this stacked draft with all these picks

more trades to come? I hope so

by SDChief on Oct 19, 2009 8:48 PM CDT reply actions  

Does anybody know

how the NFL decides which teams play on Monday Night Footballs and Sunday Night Footballs? Chargers have 2 SNF games and 1 MNF…its pissing me off and i dont know how why they keep showing them.

by Wrestler189s on Oct 19, 2009 8:50 PM CDT reply actions  

Why dont they ever show a Chiefs game?

You put the Chiefs on a MNF game and Arrowhead would be PACKED.

by Wrestler189s on Oct 19, 2009 8:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

because no one on the national scene

wants to watch the chiefs right now. they won’t until we are good and can pair up against another good team

Never kick a fresh turd on a hot day.
Harry S. Truman

by kcguy on Oct 19, 2009 8:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

well a 8-8 team like the Chargers

and a fan base that gets threatned to black out almost every home game isnt a team that should be on there either…but they have 2 SNF games and a MNF. Its should just be drawing straws….

by Wrestler189s on Oct 19, 2009 9:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

that's because they are consistently picked to be good

everyone expected kc to be bad

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Harry S. Truman

by kcguy on Oct 19, 2009 9:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Gotta keep Marshall out of

The endzone. I have a 8 point lead in fantasy football and my opponents last player is Marshall.

by raiderhater77 on Oct 19, 2009 8:51 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

BOO YEAH

LOVE IT LOVE IT LOVE IT. What you saw from tank at the chiefs is all you will get. Hes more concerned with his rapping, being on tv, and weed. Not that weed is bad. But for all he gets paid he was notorious in kc for showing up at smoke houses

I don't want no Yo-Yos

by AK_47 on Oct 19, 2009 8:54 PM CDT reply actions  

Well, a man's STILL gotta live.

I think smoke houses are gonna be springing up legitimately all over the place, before long. Obama’s showing signs of loosening-up at the Fed level on that, and gee, what a wonderful new thing to tax and make TONS of money for the gummint.

No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.

by hmills110 on Oct 19, 2009 9:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

He probably doesn't give a damn about legalizing it

But I bet he’s just drooling at the chance to raise taxes on something else.

by Soria's Unibrow on Oct 19, 2009 10:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

If they don't

Draft any real offensive lineman and say “they weren’t the best player available” I’m going to give up as a fan. Okay I won’t give up, but I’ll be really really mad. I won’t ever stop believing.

by raiderhater77 on Oct 19, 2009 9:00 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

talking to a buddy who lives in Baton Rouge, told him about the Tyler trade and the POSSIBILITY of KC starting 3 LSU D-Lineman

he mentioned that his favorite PRO team, the cough Patriots one time had 7 players from LSU on their team and it was called LSU north for a while

guess Pioli likes those LSU players

Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisiton!

by upamtn on Oct 19, 2009 9:06 PM CDT reply actions  

He's only drafted Jackson here

but might sign Favorite. He inherited others which may have been another reason Clark was able to get him!!

by ttownmikey on Oct 19, 2009 10:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'll throw this out there

Carolina stinks so a fifth round pick is going to be pretty high in that rd. Similar to KC’s. Good amo to move up a round or two.

by golfbard on Oct 19, 2009 9:07 PM CDT reply actions  

Exactly.

Especially a 3rd rounder who has been playing pretty well. It is no surprise that Carolina would want him.

Wouldn’t it be smarter to have 2 NTs?

Just sayin.

by Chiefsfan1970 on Oct 19, 2009 9:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

i will tend to agree with you 1970

if they don’t get another nt…we don’t know if there is more in the works here

Never kick a fresh turd on a hot day.
Harry S. Truman

by kcguy on Oct 19, 2009 9:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

my hunch is they'll sign one of the guys they've worked out

or someone else, or haul up someone from PS or shift someone around somewhere … it’s all just “see who can do what” this year anyway … wins are nice but secondary

Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisiton!

by upamtn on Oct 19, 2009 9:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

There's no NT on the current PS.

Whoever thinks GALES (a (slow, imo) 260-pounder) is gonna play NT is nuts.

I’m not hidebound on “He was a 3rd-rounder.” It’s what he’s worth, NOW that matters. Personally, I thought he was productive enough to be worth more.

I really don’t think the Chiefs would trade Tyler if they thought they needed him. I don’t want to believe they’re writin’ off this season.

But maybe that “He seems like a really nice guy. I want to see the mean guy they drafted 3 years ago,” or words to that effect from Haley really did say they thought he lacked a mean streak that they wanted. I pooh-poohed that comment as just some of Haley’s dry humor, but maybe there was something behind it, like all the soap opera guys were sayin’.

No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.

by hmills110 on Oct 19, 2009 9:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think they wrote off the season before it started

now maybe Haley didn’t like him for whatever reason, he was decent and for a 3rd rounder not horrible by any means IMNSHO

Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisiton!

by upamtn on Oct 19, 2009 9:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

yeah it does

but that’s the way I think they’re looking at this season … firing Gailey when they did, not bothering to do anything with the O-Line in the offseason, the 2nd half of the Eagles game …

all adds up to “evaluate and go from there” … therefore, winning games are nice, yes, but of secondary (or even tertiary) importance right now

Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisiton!

by upamtn on Oct 19, 2009 10:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

only if they're good ...

look,. we all know the season isn’t going to amount to much anyway, it’s an evaluation year anyway – like Cassel said: you play to evaluate the talent (or something like that) … so now we have an extra-extra pick, admittedly low, that maybe they can package with another pick for a plaer or a higher pick … see how it goes

Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisiton!

by upamtn on Oct 19, 2009 9:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

this is weird upamtn

you and i agree on something…i don’t know what to do

Never kick a fresh turd on a hot day.
Harry S. Truman

by kcguy on Oct 19, 2009 9:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

well, you COULD stab your eyeballs out with an icepick ...

but then you’d miss the Chargers game

bad plan, don’t do it

Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisiton!

by upamtn on Oct 19, 2009 9:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

bad plan is right

Never kick a fresh turd on a hot day.
Harry S. Truman

by kcguy on Oct 19, 2009 9:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

I love it

keep stockpilling them picks im sure there are more to come

im willing to bet we get a couple mnf games next season as soon as they completely finish the new arrowhead the nfl just cant stand not showing off there new digs and if im not mistaken we will be the only ones cutting the ribbon on a new place

by Bleedzredngold on Oct 19, 2009 9:12 PM CDT reply actions  

I hope you are right

and with this next draft im pretty sure we will be a good team.

by Wrestler189s on Oct 19, 2009 9:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Off note...

who saw that pigen flying during the Eagles and Raiders game? Hahah!

by Wrestler189s on Oct 19, 2009 9:15 PM CDT reply actions  

I just hope

That another gm and coach won’t be trading away all of the 2010 draft picks for more draft picks in a few years. Please let this be the draft.

by raiderhater77 on Oct 19, 2009 9:15 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

j. russel..360 flip

man… i dont know u guys saw it or not but..fat boody russels spin move made me crack up.. was just wondering anybody else saw it or not…loololol

by luckypurohit on Oct 19, 2009 9:21 PM CDT reply actions  

yeah

twinkle-toes he ain’t!

by ttownmikey on Oct 19, 2009 10:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't know

I was thinking Tank was doing a good job. I can’t say I am behind this, Tank seemed like a pretty decent player and I doubt we will be able to replace him with a 5th round pick.

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by Scaryclouds on Oct 19, 2009 9:26 PM CDT reply actions  

think about this ... if Denver wins tonight vs Chargers ...

AND we win vs Chargers next week AND Jets beat Raiders next …

… we’’d be in a 3-way tie for Second Place

Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisiton!

by upamtn on Oct 19, 2009 9:37 PM CDT reply actions  

No. Ya gotta root for the Chargers.

It’s our main chance at winning the division.

Damn! Turnover!

C’Mon, Bolts!

No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.

by hmills110 on Oct 19, 2009 9:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

winning the division???

wow, look what just froze over …

Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisiton!

by upamtn on Oct 19, 2009 10:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sweet!

The first loser

by raiderhater77 on Oct 19, 2009 9:42 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

Wow this came out of nowhere to me

I guess all that speculation about DJ and Morgan was a diversion. Or maybe those trades are in the works as well. I thought Tank was getting a pretty good push this year and sounded like from his quotes in the press that he might have been stepping up into a leadership role.

Oh well, I guess he just wasn’t a true 3-4 NT. I think this also means we’ll be going DL in the 1st round AGAIN. I know NT is probably the most important position in the 3-4, but damn I’m sick of taking DL in the 1st round.

by Soria's Unibrow on Oct 19, 2009 10:29 PM CDT reply actions  

You ain't kiddin'

But if it is truly the best move for the team, I’ll support it all the way. I’m excited to see how Haley, Pioli, and all the new scouting staff handle a draft that’s 100% their own since last year’s was kind of half new regime, half old. We’ll have plenty of draft picks to make the team into a new image!

by Soria's Unibrow on Oct 19, 2009 10:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

bowe

u guys that think theres any chance of us trading bowe are insane bowe isnt going anywhere hes haleys project and is staying right here in kc haleys put too much into him to trade him!!

i am a diehard chief fan and have been since 1992 and that wont ever change my current favorite player in the entire nfl is chiefs wr dwayne bowe

chiefs rule!!!

by kcsam on Oct 19, 2009 11:38 PM CDT reply actions  

Reply to Still Laughing.

I first and foremost want to say that I have read much of what the Joel Thorman has wrote on Arrowhead pride and find that he has insightful and intelligent views on the ongoings of the Chiefs and NFL in general. Much more than I know for sure.

To Cowboysnchrist, I agree with you that most fans were against the trade myself included but at the same time my devotion and belief in the Broncos organization left me comfortable with the move knowing that it was what was best for the team to the front office and coaching staff alike.

I do not want to come across as a troll to anyone on this website. To say the least my feathers were ruffled at those articles and i felt that some of the people on this site might be eating crow and took advantage of the oppurtunity to take a shot. (no pun intended).

Regardless of statistical prowess and W-L records when the Broncos go to Arrowhead and the tomahawk swinging fans it is always a game.

Much luck the rest of the season and future AFC west rivalry games (minus Bronco games of course)

by gwbushby on Oct 20, 2009 12:38 AM CDT reply actions  

another thing to have you even say that you dont believe it was a good trade hey that says volumes

it was a bad trade just watch when you play real teams you guys will lose . I will admit the biggest pick up you guys made was nolan the d cordinator he is the difference maker . but like i said you guys are pretenders this is not your year trust me .

FOUR F'S FIND UM FEEL UM FUGUM FORGET UM.

by sexassassin on Oct 20, 2009 3:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

All in all

this is bullshit. Pioli’s had zero vision of “inheriting” this team and full intentions of blowing the sucker up. If I was Clark Hunt, I would feel like my money has been mismanaged

Welcome to Chiefs REBUILD - Version 2.0 /The Clark Hunt Edition
Chiefs will be lucky to go 4-12 in 2010

by KansasCityShuffle on Oct 20, 2009 9:20 AM CDT reply actions  

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