Chiefs Trade Tank Tyler to Panthers
by Joel Thorman on Oct 19, 2009 8:09 PM CDT
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Josh Looney of KCChiefs.com is reporting the Kansas City Chiefs have traded defensive tackle Tank Tyler to the Carolina Panthers for an undisclosed draft pick.
Update 8:40 PM - Kent Babb says it's for a 5th round pick in 2010.
Tyler was a third round draft pick in the 2007 draft. This means that only Kolby Smith and Dwayne Bowe remain from that draft class.
We have no clue what the draft pick is. I'm hearing people throw around a 5th or 6th rounder, which is just speculation at this point but it that makes some sense. Remember, though, the Panthers are desperate for defensive tackles.
The Panthers recently signed veteran defensive tackle Hollis Thomas because they've been reeling at defensive tackle. Starter Maake Kemoeatu was lost for the season on the first day of the training camp only to be following by the loss of his replacement, Louis Leonard, seven weeks later.
And now the Chiefs are desperate for defensive tackles. Funny...just yesterday we talked to Ron Edwards in the locker room about how difficult it is to play zero technique in the NFL. It was brought up that the rotation helps.
Dion Gales took nose tackle reps throughout training camp although he's currently on the practice squad.
On October 10th, we heard that the Chiefs had recently worked out three defensive tackles including William Joseph, Tim Anderson and Marlon Favorite. An LSU grad, Favorite, was coincindentally with the Panthers until the last round of final cuts. As we told you a few weeks ago, his signing could mean the Chiefs can line up an all-LSU defensive line.
Of course this now means that the Chiefs have one active roster spot available and one practice squad spot.
We've compiled a list of Tank-related stories for you after the jump.
(Thanks to acefan101 for the heads up)
Mock Draft Tracker Update #3
The Chiefs need help at DT and WR, the choice comes down Tank Tyler, Dwayne Bowe, and Sidney Rice. I think it is about time the Chiefs finally invest in a wide receiver and I like Rice better than Bowe, primarily because of Rice's speed.
Kansas City Chiefs Sign Tank Tyler and Herb Taylor
The agent for each player said his client agreed to terms of a three-year contract. Still without agreements were first-round wide receiver Dwayne Bowe, second-round defensive lineman Turk McBride and fifth-round kicker Justin Medlock. The Chiefs also continued to work on a contract extension for running back Larry Johnson. The sides were still far from an agreement, making Johnson unlikely to be with the Chiefs on Thursday when they leave for training camp in River Falls, Wis., or Friday, when they will practice for the first time.
The Chiefs Defensive Linemen Appear in Reality TV Show
This may be the ideal Sunday morning post. Here are two clips of Tank Tyler and Turk McBride, who we should just get used to calling Tank & Turk as if it was one person. This is something about a reality TV demo.
Chiefs NT Tank Tyler: 'Why wait? We have to aim high'
"I'm kinda the anchor in the middle. I'm right in front of the center so i'm holding him up. I got close to contact which is great for me. I can attack faster. I have to be on the guard all the time. I'm thinking I'm gonna play a little bit of everything, from down in the nose tackle out to three technique on third down."
Kansas City Chiefs NT Tank Tyler: 'We can't allow them to score'
"The thing that gets to me is when the offense got things going scoring a touchdown and pushes us ahead in the game, our defensive mentality, I feel that it has out of this world for the other team not to score because now the game is dependent on us. The offense put us in the position to be leading the game and we can't allow them to score. "We let them do that repeatedly yesterday on a few drives. That kind of disturbed me."
Chiefs Make Changes at Right Tackle, Nose Tackle
There's also a new starter at nose tackle: Ron Edwards Tank Tyler has been the No. 1 nose tackle since the beginning of the season and started the first two games. Edwards got the starting nod against the Eagles on Sunday.
Chiefs Work Out Three Defensive Tackles
We're not quite sure if this means Todd Haley is unhappy with the nose tackle position. It appears that he's at least willing to search for an upgrade, or maybe just depth to supplement the current tackles Tank Tyler and Ron Edwards. I've previously given my support to Tyler who appears to have the tools to win the job.
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this is crazy
I guess the love Ron Edwards, or have another NT in mind???
it would clear a roster spot for Banta-Cain….
* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season
by stagdsp on Oct 19, 2009 8:10 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
There was a post
on here about 3 weeks ago where we were trying out 3 NT. Think one was from LSU a couple of years ago.
by ttownmikey on Oct 19, 2009 8:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
right, and william joseph
problem was the lack of a NT with starting experience.
interesting, but I love it…I just LOVE the move, we need picks…I know people are sick of hearing it but we actually have a scouting department now
by SDChief on Oct 19, 2009 8:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
A 5th or a 6th..
I hardly think that is a good deal. How could you be this “Mastermind” if you loss value like that. Its not like he has been a slouch this season either. 22 tackles in what 3 starts. I hope it is more then a 5th or 6th. Otherwise, I would even Question whether people have exagerated all the hype about Pioli.
by darwithabar on Oct 19, 2009 8:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
even a 5th is not that high, and Tyler was a 3rd ...
although it does give us an extra pick that COULD be packaged in a trade or whatever later on down the road
Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisiton!
by upamtn on Oct 19, 2009 9:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
tyler was a 3rd but i don't know
if his performance has been worthy of his draft slot. i’m not crazy about this trade because you don’t normally find real good players in the 5th or 6th rounds
Never kick a fresh turd on a hot day.
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by kcguy on Oct 19, 2009 9:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
right, which is why it doesn't seem like such a great deal on the surface
at least right now
Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisiton!
by upamtn on Oct 19, 2009 9:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
B. Carr was a 5th rounder.
Although he was probably the exception, and not the rule. I think Kolby Smith was also a fifth rounder, but the jury is still out on that pick. I think this trade really boils down to KC needing a dominant NT and both Edwards and Tyler are not the guy. Therefore, lets trade the one that still has some value. Edwards and whatever other NT they sign will hold down the fort until next year when a legitiamte NT is obtained
by Fourstrike89 on Oct 19, 2009 9:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
precisely, exception not the rule ... not that talent can't be had in lower rounds
case in point: Ryan Not Very Irrelevant Now Succop … you just have to get very, very lucky to find said talent …
it’s all a crapshoot, you never know which one will work, which one won’t, it’s all a “best guess” thing … in theory (only in theory) the higher round picks are better players/more talent and have a better chance to succeed (or at least a higher % of them succeed) but there’s NEVER a guarantee no matter how high the pick
you pay your dime and you take your chances
Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisiton!
by upamtn on Oct 19, 2009 9:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yep,
and based on Tanks production so far, I am ready to try the crapshoot with a fifth round pick. I would say that Tank is a known commodity at this point.
by Fourstrike89 on Oct 19, 2009 9:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
its a pick who cares what round we can always trade up
things happen we can also use a couple picks to get better players in a package deal either way pioli is making moves to better our team tank was nothing very special he was decent
FOUR F'S FIND UM FEEL UM FUGUM FORGET UM.
by sexassassin on Oct 19, 2009 11:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
this is good for him though.
new start, and he was born in north carolina.
by Vince D on Oct 19, 2009 8:12 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
wow a team without a NT, sorry Ron Edwards, trades a DT...interesting
he does fit the 4-3 a bit better.
wonder how many trades are on the way considering
NO ONE saw this one coming, I thought maybe we wouldnt sign him or cut him at the end of the year…but deal him? how is he even worth a pick…cool…ed johnson wasnt
by SDChief on Oct 19, 2009 8:12 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
i did
predicted back when they brought in the other linemen on that post…ok gloating done for the night.
by MountainManMike on Oct 20, 2009 12:16 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
what do u think the pick is
do you think a 4th is too high
by cassel4prez on Oct 19, 2009 8:13 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I think its a 6, just a guess...but a 6 at best imo
by SDChief on Oct 19, 2009 8:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i feel like hes worth more to us
then a 6th, i hope its a 5th
by cassel4prez on Oct 19, 2009 8:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think hes worth more to the fans, but to the actual team? I never saw much, Dunno
but thigpen was only a 5…and he started in the nfl at QB and performed well enough
by SDChief on Oct 19, 2009 8:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I dont remember where i saw it
but he was 2nd leading tackler by DT last week
by cassel4prez on Oct 19, 2009 8:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hear that
I just believe hes a 4-3 DT, I think this team needs a 3-4 NT, look at SD and how their D suffers without williams, or titans minus haynesworth
by SDChief on Oct 19, 2009 8:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think that's right.
I think Tank was a 3-4 NT and we switched him to a 4-3 DT here and he struggled. Since we moved him back to his ‘natural’ position at NT, he looks like a whole different person.
Frankly, I’m not a fan of Ron Edwards and would’ve rather the Chiefs dealt him and continued to develop Tank as I feel Tank has more upside.
by JacinB on Oct 20, 2009 8:34 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
has Thigpin terms been announced?
I heard it was undisclosed (conditional) and speculated to be a 5th. Has it been confirmed to be a 5th?
by chrisclark_dfw on Oct 19, 2009 8:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
6 probably makes sense
but i’m hoping pioli could pull off a 5th or higher. i mean the guy was a 3rd rounder and should have gone higher… 24 years old, strong as hell, no character issues in the nfl, a year of starting experience, can play in both the 3-4 and 4-3, played pretty decent this year.
by Vince D on Oct 19, 2009 8:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, I'm betting it's a 5 or a 4
we’ll see
* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season
by stagdsp on Oct 19, 2009 8:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
if we get a 4 or 5 i would be shocked, and stoked
by SDChief on Oct 19, 2009 8:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Might it be conditional, based on how much/well Tank plays?
Toby is in HR, which technically means he works for corporate, so he's really not a part of our family. Also, he's divorced, so he's really not a part of his family.
by Rev. Slappy on Oct 19, 2009 8:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Interesting
I wonder what they have in mind now for NT maybe a upcoming trade?
by Zargg on Oct 19, 2009 8:13 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I was starting to wonder
if any trade news was going to break? Will there be more news comming???
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by GanjaChief on Oct 19, 2009 8:14 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
by tomorrow's deadline I would assume a few guys will either be dealt or be really close to it
plus we now have a roster and a PS spot open
by SDChief on Oct 19, 2009 8:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ohh i feel like a dumbass
I thought today at 4 was the deadline…
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by GanjaChief on Oct 19, 2009 8:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
its cool you get a pass for the name
ganja fan ftw
by SDChief on Oct 19, 2009 8:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
???
huh?
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by GanjaChief on Oct 19, 2009 8:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
HA
yeah gotta love the herb….
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by GanjaChief on Oct 19, 2009 8:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
for sure, volcano guy myself, california ftw :)
by SDChief on Oct 19, 2009 8:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
...lucky
Im in Kansas so its good ol’ mexican ditch weed roll’n it for all its worth
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by GanjaChief on Oct 19, 2009 8:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
There is legit grass in KS and MO.
Lots of good stuff coming through Wichita.
"What?!?! I aint no Obama for the weed!"
-Turk McBride
by HIV 2 Elway on Oct 19, 2009 8:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Im west of Wichita… im not trashing on ii but I KNOW there is better in Cali
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by GanjaChief on Oct 19, 2009 8:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
oh for sure, moreso I love the medical access of pot, some nice strains out here
by SDChief on Oct 19, 2009 8:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I live in @ the Lake of the Ozarks...
Not much decent around here, but I can pull this 65 a cutie that is like your pic.
by darwithabar on Oct 19, 2009 8:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes. Chemo patients have it a lot better than just a few years ago.
No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.
by hmills110 on Oct 19, 2009 9:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I guess thats
one way to look at it!
by ttownmikey on Oct 19, 2009 10:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
well... most anyone is available for a price
I don’t mind the trade, assuming there’s another NT in sight…
stockpile some picks!!!
* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season
by stagdsp on Oct 19, 2009 8:14 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Open Spots
We do have a couple open roster spots so expect some changes.
by Zargg on Oct 19, 2009 8:16 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
More info being added to this post
Refresh…
by Joel Thorman on Oct 19, 2009 8:16 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I actually got
To meet tank. I ran into him at the Sheraton next to arrowhead. Pretty sweet but he acted like I was annoying him, and I probably was, when I asked for a picture with him.
by raiderhater77 on Oct 19, 2009 8:18 PM CDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
Hmmmm
I understand wanting to stockpile draftpicks, but this is going to really impact the depth. What if Ron Edwards pulls a Kris Jenkins?…we’re screwed.
Week 7 Prediction:
Kansas City Chiefs 77 - San Diego Chargers 2
by craig in calgary on Oct 19, 2009 8:20 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
im not impressed with Edwards
ill bet there will be a major replacement… well I HOPE
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by GanjaChief on Oct 19, 2009 8:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
my guess...
no-name replacement (one of the 3 listed above) for the rest of the year
big time NT next year
* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season
by stagdsp on Oct 19, 2009 8:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Woohoo!
We can waste another draft pick on the D-Line instead of fixing the O-Line! Alright!
by JacinB on Oct 20, 2009 8:36 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
but, they have another pick to use on the O Line now...
* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season
by stagdsp on Oct 20, 2009 5:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
More coming down the pipe line me thinks.
Yeah, let's just keep matriculatin' the ball down the field, boys! ...
by oldchiefsfan on Oct 19, 2009 8:23 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Package with Julius Peppers and/or Steve Smith?
Week 7 Prediction:
Kansas City Chiefs 77 - San Diego Chargers 2
by craig in calgary on Oct 19, 2009 8:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like the AND you put in there.
Man it’s so hard to know for sure Craig. I think Pioli is definately working on something right now, we should know tomorrow for sure.
Yeah, let's just keep matriculatin' the ball down the field, boys! ...
by oldchiefsfan on Oct 19, 2009 8:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Haha
I’d love if this was the tip of the iceburg on a huge blockbuster!
Week 7 Prediction:
Kansas City Chiefs 77 - San Diego Chargers 2
by craig in calgary on Oct 19, 2009 8:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Me to, I think we're due one don't you?
Yeah, let's just keep matriculatin' the ball down the field, boys! ...
by oldchiefsfan on Oct 19, 2009 8:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well.......
Peppers was whining about wanting to play in a 3-4. I see him when I’m out here in Charlotte, and he is definitely unhappy here.
by Hail2DaChiefs on Oct 19, 2009 9:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hope we got more than a 5th rounder for him
I have no idea why they dropped Tank after that awesome 7 tackle game, but I really hope they aren’t just dishing out players from the former regime for 6th and 7th rounders just to unload them.
by ChiefDJ on Oct 19, 2009 8:24 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
true, but we also dealt some later picks, Id be happy to take em for a guy we didnt have any future plans for. especially with a deep draft
our 2nd best ST player was a 7th round pick, and our top safety was one as well
by SDChief on Oct 19, 2009 8:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hmm
I think pioli already has his mind made up on suh. He was at the mizzou-nebraska game scouting. They’re going to get a NT for the 3-4.
by raiderhater77 on Oct 19, 2009 8:24 PM CDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
agreed. im 100 percent sure, and of course by that I mean its of my opinion, that if KC doesnt trade for a top NT, they will draft one first round
by SDChief on Oct 19, 2009 8:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Booooooooooooooooooo
Week 7 Prediction:
Kansas City Chiefs 77 - San Diego Chargers 2
by craig in calgary on Oct 19, 2009 8:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah another def lineman in the first?
I guess if it is the right decision than its the right decision.
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by GanjaChief on Oct 19, 2009 8:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
well
I REALLY dont want to take ANOTHER DL
but….After seeing the difference in a 3-4 with a NT and without…where GREAT LB’s cant do ANYTHING without a good NT…see SD….
I think it may have to be a NT, then load up on OL talent.
by SDChief on Oct 19, 2009 8:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
but yeah, if its the right guy...otherwise...sigh.
by SDChief on Oct 19, 2009 8:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If we take another DL in the first round
We better have made some damn good FA signings or trades for the O line. I’m sick of seeing so much of our first day draft stock going into D line. We have a hell of a lot of other needs.
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by Big Chief on Oct 19, 2009 10:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cody isn't good enough to justify that high of a pick.
He is late first or early second guy. He’s a two down NT.
"Leave the gun. Take the cannoli."
"Mr. Pioli is a man who insists on hearing bad news immediately."
"Never tell anybody outside the family what you're thinking again."
by Don Piolie's Consigliere on Oct 20, 2009 1:00 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
so you move down, get more picks, this team MUST get a NT
cant have success in the 3/4 without it no matter who you Lb’s are
by SDChief on Oct 20, 2009 1:35 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree
Just not with our #1 in this draft, unless there is somebody out there I don’t know about. Which may be.
"Leave the gun. Take the cannoli."
"Mr. Pioli is a man who insists on hearing bad news immediately."
"Never tell anybody outside the family what you're thinking again."
by Don Piolie's Consigliere on Oct 20, 2009 1:51 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The problem is we're probably going to draft pretty high.
In which case it is rare that other teams will trade for a high first round draft choice.
by Primussux on Oct 20, 2009 1:58 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
OK
All I’m saying is I think Cody will be a reach at #20. So if that’s our target we have to package some picks and move up to get him. No way should we take him with a top 10 pick. IMHO
"Leave the gun. Take the cannoli."
"Mr. Pioli is a man who insists on hearing bad news immediately."
"Never tell anybody outside the family what you're thinking again."
by Don Piolie's Consigliere on Oct 20, 2009 2:07 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
well... 2 problems with that theory
Suh projects as a DE, I believe… not a NT
Suh might not be there when KC picks…
* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season
by stagdsp on Oct 19, 2009 8:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Suh would be a DE
I would rather have Boo in the third than Cody
by BAMFSpecialOps on Oct 19, 2009 8:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season
by stagdsp on Oct 19, 2009 8:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
+2
We Will kick at least 4 Teams Asses in 09
And Succop will be the Key in two of them.
" Think and talk positive football off the field." Hank Stram
by Steve_Chiefs on Oct 19, 2009 8:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wonder...
if they will use Magee as the backup NT and bring one of the DE off of the practice squad. Magee did play some DT in collage.
by ICTChief on Oct 19, 2009 8:26 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Magee
Is he fat big enough to play NT?
Week 7 Prediction:
Kansas City Chiefs 77 - San Diego Chargers 2
by craig in calgary on Oct 19, 2009 8:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I dont think so....
he would get thrown around, IMO. College DT is way different than Pro DT.
by Wrestler189s on Oct 19, 2009 8:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I suspect he was already bringin' pretty much what Tank brought, and we'll see more of him in the middle.
But yeah, at 295, he’s not quite built like a NT. Thing is, KC was doing a lot of stunting and gap-shooting with Tank in there – more of a 4-3 under look and feel when he’s on the field. More of a true 3-4 look and feel with Edwards.
No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.
by hmills110 on Oct 19, 2009 9:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
he played some DT in the 4-3, not the nose in the 3-4 unfortunately
by SDChief on Oct 19, 2009 8:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wasn't that long ago that everyone was saying Tank was more of a NT type than anything else...
No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.
by hmills110 on Oct 19, 2009 9:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow...
this was a huge surprise. Maybe they saw a bit more from the guys they worked out than they have from Tank. Good for him though. Hope it was at least a 4th rounder…a 5th seems ok and a 6th seems too low.
by Wrestler189s on Oct 19, 2009 8:27 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
It depends I think
If Carolina called us, we have all the cards and Pioli doesn’t have to trade him. But if we called them shopping Tank around, it could be pretty low.
by Vince D on Oct 19, 2009 8:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I dont think we called anybody...
We werent doing bad at the NT position…gotta be a 4th or 5th.
by Wrestler189s on Oct 19, 2009 8:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ahhh haa haa haa Foul on Marshal, dumbass.
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by oldchiefsfan on Oct 19, 2009 8:29 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
You can't tell me
No one saw this coming. The NT is the most important position in the 3-4. They’re going to get a real one. I just didn’t think they would trade until the off season.
by raiderhater77 on Oct 19, 2009 8:29 PM CDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
This story keeps getting updated
So refresh this page.
by Joel Thorman on Oct 19, 2009 8:30 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I will be impressed if
Pioli pulls off a 5th rounder. That being said, I’m not sure I understand trading him. Doesn’t bother me a whole lot though.
by KCMizzou on Oct 19, 2009 8:30 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Somebody will be here soon to replace him.
A big time nose tackle will be acquired one way or the other during the off season. What I am worried about is playing out the rest of this season.
by G.L. on Oct 19, 2009 8:30 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Talked to Ron Edwards in the locker room yesterday
He was talking about how tough you have to be to play zero technique (NT) in the NFL. And it was brought up that the Chiefs rotate their d-tackles but Edwards was still out there quite a bit.
And he might have the biggest arms on the team.
by Joel Thorman on Oct 19, 2009 8:30 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I hope he stays for awhile, I like Ron Edwards
I do think those that feel we will acquire a NT may be a bit off, its TOUGH to just go get a starting NT…
by SDChief on Oct 19, 2009 8:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And he is
a huge lead blocker at fullback!
by ttownmikey on Oct 19, 2009 8:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
There's your answer then - toughness
coaching staff questioned it for a while too. Good complementary player but we need a big time NT in the middle. If we get that, we have the makings of a dominant D-line
by golfbard on Oct 19, 2009 8:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's funny stagsdp
We are going to run the table now
by raiderhater77 on Oct 19, 2009 8:31 PM CDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
Wrong thread?
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by Chris Thorman on Oct 19, 2009 8:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
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Week 7 Prediction:
Kansas City Chiefs 77 - San Diego Chargers 2
by craig in calgary on Oct 19, 2009 8:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
does this just open up a spot to activate kolby smith?
i hope that’s not why they did it
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by kcguy on Oct 19, 2009 8:36 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I was just kidding
About when you said suh may not be there when we pick. I hope not but I’m not counting on it.
by raiderhater77 on Oct 19, 2009 8:36 PM CDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
oh
well, Suh is projected as a top 3 pick in some areas… and we will be hard pressed to finish worse than St Louis, Tampa Bay, Browns, and others
* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season
by stagdsp on Oct 19, 2009 8:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
off subject but
Iv never been on here when news broke this is pretty F’n cool
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by GanjaChief on Oct 19, 2009 8:37 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Wow - Eddie Royal
Maybe we could trade Terrance Copper to the Chargers for a 2nd round pick :)
Week 7 Prediction:
Kansas City Chiefs 77 - San Diego Chargers 2
by craig in calgary on Oct 19, 2009 8:40 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
did royal score???
Im playing him in fantasy….
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by GanjaChief on Oct 19, 2009 8:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
2 TD's
1 punt and 1 KO return.
Week 7 Prediction:
Kansas City Chiefs 77 - San Diego Chargers 2
by craig in calgary on Oct 19, 2009 8:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think they count for FF tho
Week 7 Prediction:
Kansas City Chiefs 77 - San Diego Chargers 2
by craig in calgary on Oct 19, 2009 8:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Most do
depending on the settings. If they don’t, shame on them.
by KCMizzou on Oct 19, 2009 8:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
In my league return TD's only count for DST
Week 7 Prediction:
Kansas City Chiefs 77 - San Diego Chargers 2
by craig in calgary on Oct 19, 2009 8:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah,
some leagues do it differently.
by KCMizzou on Oct 19, 2009 8:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
well i got 12 pts from him
so its all good
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by GanjaChief on Oct 19, 2009 8:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
thx guys
Im gonna go check it out…
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by GanjaChief on Oct 19, 2009 8:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And now Sproles
returns punt for Chargers!
by ttownmikey on Oct 19, 2009 9:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I just read from Babb
that it’s a 5th rounder. I’m good with it now.
by KCMizzou on Oct 19, 2009 8:40 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Yep, thanks
Updating the post now.
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by Chris Thorman on Oct 19, 2009 8:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
A 5th not too bad.
Hopefully this is just the first move of a block buster trade for wilfork. I doubt it but that would be aweson
by ChiefsWolf24 on Oct 19, 2009 8:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Damn, i was hoping it was for a 4th
by Wrestler189s on Oct 19, 2009 8:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Whats interesting is late round picks can always be used to move up in the draft while it is already started. Last year we were all expecting movement but this year Pioli should have the picks to make that movement happen.
by ChiefsWolf24 on Oct 19, 2009 8:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The extra picks let you gamble for up-side a lot more.
Odds might be lower for each individual pick, but probability theory tells you that a pair of 30-70 shots beats a single 50-50 shot. More of a systems approach to getting good players than relying on horoscopes and a gypsy with a crystal ball.
No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.
by hmills110 on Oct 19, 2009 9:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
5th rounder
for a guy who will, most likely, be a career backup? I’m good.
by KCMizzou on Oct 19, 2009 8:41 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Why doesn't
whenever trades get done say they traded “so and so” for an UNDISCLOSED draft pick? Why the hell can’t they just say when the trade was made?
by Wrestler189s on Oct 19, 2009 8:42 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Well be set up for a great draft
As long as we can stay out of the top 5. Someone will want to trade with us for brafdford, McCoy, or tebow. Well maybe not tebow.
by raiderhater77 on Oct 19, 2009 8:42 PM CDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
I hope the Raiders take Tebow.
So they draft another flop.
by KCMizzou on Oct 19, 2009 8:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So far does anybody know
what our draft looks like as of now?
1-1st
2-2nd
1-3rd
1-4th
3-5th
1-6th
Are those right?
by Wrestler189s on Oct 19, 2009 8:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Joel knows....
He had a post on it recently.
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by Chris Thorman on Oct 19, 2009 8:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
6th
was traded to Miami for the 2 o-lineman.
by ICTChief on Oct 19, 2009 8:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not sure that's been confirmed
But it’s been widely accepted.
by Joel Thorman on Oct 19, 2009 8:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
no 6th... that's Ndukwe and Alleman
* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season
by stagdsp on Oct 19, 2009 8:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Damn no 6th.
Oh well hopefully we make those ones count
by Wrestler189s on Oct 19, 2009 8:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
stoked a 5, NICE
kind of excited for this stacked draft with all these picks
more trades to come? I hope so
by SDChief on Oct 19, 2009 8:48 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
So that's three 5th rounders now?
Ladies and Gentleman: Meet our future interior lineman…prime area for guards and centers.
by Joel Thorman on Oct 19, 2009 8:50 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Well for Herms scouts it wasnt
But Pioli will change that!
by Wrestler189s on Oct 19, 2009 8:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Does anybody know
how the NFL decides which teams play on Monday Night Footballs and Sunday Night Footballs? Chargers have 2 SNF games and 1 MNF…its pissing me off and i dont know how why they keep showing them.
by Wrestler189s on Oct 19, 2009 8:50 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Why dont they ever show a Chiefs game?
You put the Chiefs on a MNF game and Arrowhead would be PACKED.
by Wrestler189s on Oct 19, 2009 8:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
because no one on the national scene
wants to watch the chiefs right now. they won’t until we are good and can pair up against another good team
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by kcguy on Oct 19, 2009 8:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
well a 8-8 team like the Chargers
and a fan base that gets threatned to black out almost every home game isnt a team that should be on there either…but they have 2 SNF games and a MNF. Its should just be drawing straws….
by Wrestler189s on Oct 19, 2009 9:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
that's because they are consistently picked to be good
everyone expected kc to be bad
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by kcguy on Oct 19, 2009 9:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
when we start winning again, we'll be on MNF again, guaranteed
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by upamtn on Oct 19, 2009 9:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gotta keep Marshall out of
The endzone. I have a 8 point lead in fantasy football and my opponents last player is Marshall.
by raiderhater77 on Oct 19, 2009 8:51 PM CDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
BOO YEAH
LOVE IT LOVE IT LOVE IT. What you saw from tank at the chiefs is all you will get. Hes more concerned with his rapping, being on tv, and weed. Not that weed is bad. But for all he gets paid he was notorious in kc for showing up at smoke houses
I don't want no Yo-Yos
by AK_47 on Oct 19, 2009 8:54 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Well, a man's STILL gotta live.
I think smoke houses are gonna be springing up legitimately all over the place, before long. Obama’s showing signs of loosening-up at the Fed level on that, and gee, what a wonderful new thing to tax and make TONS of money for the gummint.
No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.
by hmills110 on Oct 19, 2009 9:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He probably doesn't give a damn about legalizing it
But I bet he’s just drooling at the chance to raise taxes on something else.
by Soria's Unibrow on Oct 19, 2009 10:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If they don't
Draft any real offensive lineman and say “they weren’t the best player available” I’m going to give up as a fan. Okay I won’t give up, but I’ll be really really mad. I won’t ever stop believing.
by raiderhater77 on Oct 19, 2009 9:00 PM CDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
talking to a buddy who lives in Baton Rouge, told him about the Tyler trade and the POSSIBILITY of KC starting 3 LSU D-Lineman
he mentioned that his favorite PRO team, the cough Patriots one time had 7 players from LSU on their team and it was called LSU north for a while
guess Pioli likes those LSU players
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by upamtn on Oct 19, 2009 9:06 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
He's only drafted Jackson here
but might sign Favorite. He inherited others which may have been another reason Clark was able to get him!!
by ttownmikey on Oct 19, 2009 10:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'll throw this out there
Carolina stinks so a fifth round pick is going to be pretty high in that rd. Similar to KC’s. Good amo to move up a round or two.
by golfbard on Oct 19, 2009 9:07 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
not sure I love trading a 3rd rounder for a 5th or 6th rounder, but ah well
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by upamtn on Oct 19, 2009 9:08 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Exactly.
Especially a 3rd rounder who has been playing pretty well. It is no surprise that Carolina would want him.
Wouldn’t it be smarter to have 2 NTs?
Just sayin.
by Chiefsfan1970 on Oct 19, 2009 9:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i will tend to agree with you 1970
if they don’t get another nt…we don’t know if there is more in the works here
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by kcguy on Oct 19, 2009 9:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
my hunch is they'll sign one of the guys they've worked out
or someone else, or haul up someone from PS or shift someone around somewhere … it’s all just “see who can do what” this year anyway … wins are nice but secondary
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by upamtn on Oct 19, 2009 9:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
There's no NT on the current PS.
Whoever thinks GALES (a (slow, imo) 260-pounder) is gonna play NT is nuts.
I’m not hidebound on “He was a 3rd-rounder.” It’s what he’s worth, NOW that matters. Personally, I thought he was productive enough to be worth more.
I really don’t think the Chiefs would trade Tyler if they thought they needed him. I don’t want to believe they’re writin’ off this season.
But maybe that “He seems like a really nice guy. I want to see the mean guy they drafted 3 years ago,” or words to that effect from Haley really did say they thought he lacked a mean streak that they wanted. I pooh-poohed that comment as just some of Haley’s dry humor, but maybe there was something behind it, like all the soap opera guys were sayin’.
No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.
by hmills110 on Oct 19, 2009 9:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think they wrote off the season before it started
now maybe Haley didn’t like him for whatever reason, he was decent and for a 3rd rounder not horrible by any means IMNSHO
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by upamtn on Oct 19, 2009 9:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah,
I’d love to get Brady for a 7th rounder since thats where he was drafted.
by ttownmikey on Oct 19, 2009 10:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
nice dream
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by upamtn on Oct 19, 2009 10:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
"wins are nice but secondary"
That just sounds ridiculous.
by Chiefsfan1970 on Oct 19, 2009 10:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah it does
but that’s the way I think they’re looking at this season … firing Gailey when they did, not bothering to do anything with the O-Line in the offseason, the 2nd half of the Eagles game …
all adds up to “evaluate and go from there” … therefore, winning games are nice, yes, but of secondary (or even tertiary) importance right now
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by upamtn on Oct 19, 2009 10:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
only if they're good ...
look,. we all know the season isn’t going to amount to much anyway, it’s an evaluation year anyway – like Cassel said: you play to evaluate the talent (or something like that) … so now we have an extra-extra pick, admittedly low, that maybe they can package with another pick for a plaer or a higher pick … see how it goes
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by upamtn on Oct 19, 2009 9:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
this is weird upamtn
you and i agree on something…i don’t know what to do
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by kcguy on Oct 19, 2009 9:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
well, you COULD stab your eyeballs out with an icepick ...
but then you’d miss the Chargers game
bad plan, don’t do it
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by upamtn on Oct 19, 2009 9:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
bad plan is right
Never kick a fresh turd on a hot day.
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by kcguy on Oct 19, 2009 9:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I love it
keep stockpilling them picks im sure there are more to come
im willing to bet we get a couple mnf games next season as soon as they completely finish the new arrowhead the nfl just cant stand not showing off there new digs and if im not mistaken we will be the only ones cutting the ribbon on a new place
by Bleedzredngold on Oct 19, 2009 9:12 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I hope you are right
and with this next draft im pretty sure we will be a good team.
by Wrestler189s on Oct 19, 2009 9:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It will be the only way I get to watch Chiefs games in Minnesota
Up here CBS is obsesses with showing us the Ravens.
by stram#1 on Oct 19, 2009 9:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Off note...
who saw that pigen flying during the Eagles and Raiders game? Hahah!
by Wrestler189s on Oct 19, 2009 9:15 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
That pigeon was pretty good on kickoff coverage
could show the Chiefs a thing or two about staying in their lanes…
by stram#1 on Oct 19, 2009 9:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The shot where they followed the pigeon downfield on the kickoff
and he landed at about the 20 yard line. He had the contain.
by stram#1 on Oct 19, 2009 9:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I just hope
That another gm and coach won’t be trading away all of the 2010 draft picks for more draft picks in a few years. Please let this be the draft.
by raiderhater77 on Oct 19, 2009 9:15 PM CDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
j. russel..360 flip
man… i dont know u guys saw it or not but..fat boody russels spin move made me crack up.. was just wondering anybody else saw it or not…loololol
by luckypurohit on Oct 19, 2009 9:21 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I don't know
I was thinking Tank was doing a good job. I can’t say I am behind this, Tank seemed like a pretty decent player and I doubt we will be able to replace him with a 5th round pick.
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by Scaryclouds on Oct 19, 2009 9:26 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Sometimes a good, dependable truck is worth more to you than a sports car.
No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.
by hmills110 on Oct 19, 2009 9:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
think about this ... if Denver wins tonight vs Chargers ...
AND we win vs Chargers next week AND Jets beat Raiders next …
… we’’d be in a 3-way tie for Second Place
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by upamtn on Oct 19, 2009 9:37 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
No. Ya gotta root for the Chargers.
It’s our main chance at winning the division.
Damn! Turnover!
C’Mon, Bolts!
No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.
by hmills110 on Oct 19, 2009 9:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
winning the division???
wow, look what just froze over …
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by upamtn on Oct 19, 2009 10:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow this came out of nowhere to me
I guess all that speculation about DJ and Morgan was a diversion. Or maybe those trades are in the works as well. I thought Tank was getting a pretty good push this year and sounded like from his quotes in the press that he might have been stepping up into a leadership role.
Oh well, I guess he just wasn’t a true 3-4 NT. I think this also means we’ll be going DL in the 1st round AGAIN. I know NT is probably the most important position in the 3-4, but damn I’m sick of taking DL in the 1st round.
by Soria's Unibrow on Oct 19, 2009 10:29 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
"taking DL in the 1st round" ... we should be used to it by now
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by upamtn on Oct 19, 2009 10:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You ain't kiddin'
But if it is truly the best move for the team, I’ll support it all the way. I’m excited to see how Haley, Pioli, and all the new scouting staff handle a draft that’s 100% their own since last year’s was kind of half new regime, half old. We’ll have plenty of draft picks to make the team into a new image!
by Soria's Unibrow on Oct 19, 2009 10:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
bowe
u guys that think theres any chance of us trading bowe are insane bowe isnt going anywhere hes haleys project and is staying right here in kc haleys put too much into him to trade him!!
i am a diehard chief fan and have been since 1992 and that wont ever change my current favorite player in the entire nfl is chiefs wr dwayne bowe
chiefs rule!!!
by kcsam on Oct 19, 2009 11:38 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Reply to Still Laughing.
I first and foremost want to say that I have read much of what the Joel Thorman has wrote on Arrowhead pride and find that he has insightful and intelligent views on the ongoings of the Chiefs and NFL in general. Much more than I know for sure.
To Cowboysnchrist, I agree with you that most fans were against the trade myself included but at the same time my devotion and belief in the Broncos organization left me comfortable with the move knowing that it was what was best for the team to the front office and coaching staff alike.
I do not want to come across as a troll to anyone on this website. To say the least my feathers were ruffled at those articles and i felt that some of the people on this site might be eating crow and took advantage of the oppurtunity to take a shot. (no pun intended).
Regardless of statistical prowess and W-L records when the Broncos go to Arrowhead and the tomahawk swinging fans it is always a game.
Much luck the rest of the season and future AFC west rivalry games (minus Bronco games of course)
by gwbushby on Oct 20, 2009 12:38 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
another thing to have you even say that you dont believe it was a good trade hey that says volumes
it was a bad trade just watch when you play real teams you guys will lose . I will admit the biggest pick up you guys made was nolan the d cordinator he is the difference maker . but like i said you guys are pretenders this is not your year trust me .
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by sexassassin on Oct 20, 2009 3:44 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
All in all
this is bullshit. Pioli’s had zero vision of “inheriting” this team and full intentions of blowing the sucker up. If I was Clark Hunt, I would feel like my money has been mismanaged
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by KansasCityShuffle on Oct 20, 2009 9:20 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
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