Rumor: Chiefs Trying to Trade LB Derrick Johnson and S DaJuan Morgan
by Chris Thorman on Oct 18, 2009 7:46 PM CDT
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The NFL trade deadline is Tuesday at 4 PM Eastern time and the rumors are going to be swirling for the next 48 hour or so.
This report come from Mike Lombardi at the National Football Post, who has consistently delivered solid insider info from Arrowhead. He was very close on early reports about Matt Cassel's contract.
I do want to stress that this is a rumor. From Lombardi:
The Chiefs are trying to move former 2005 first-round linebacker Derrick Johnson and 2008 third-round safety DeJuan Morgan.
Todd Haley and Co. are making no secret about their unhappiness with the players they inherited from the previous regime.
I’m hearing they don’t like anyone, including Branden Albert, who they feel is not a left tackle.
Strong words from Lombardi as we near the trade deadline. I do believe Lombardi is correct in his comments about the Kansas City Chiefs and their intentions for those players. At least in the sense that there are a lot of Chiefs players who could possibly be moved for the right price. Jay Glazer said earlier today that the Chiefs are open to trading any player except for Matt Cassel.
Back in August, we caught wind of a rumor that Scott Pioli offered the Detroit Lions DaJuan Morgan for a 4th round pick. The Lions didn't bite, possibly giving us a glimpse into what Morgan may be worth on the open market.
The question is - Will any other team bite on either DJ, DaJuan Morgan or Branden Albert?
H/T to Matt for the initial FanShot on this.
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ok, I dont think he has a source
but I think hes prob right about dj and morgan, much like the cassel contract its sort of obvious
HOWEVER
I hate his “they hate everyone” concept, since…how can you hate the play of carr/flowers? those are at least two worth keeping, not saying there is THAT much else…but they are SOLID.
by SDChief on Oct 18, 2009 7:49 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
i will say that ive seen more leadership from belcher than ive ever seen from DJ
which is too bad since I was one of those people stoked we took DJ
by SDChief on Oct 18, 2009 7:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah I agree about albert and dj and morgan
But to say everyone else on this team isn’t safe except cassel is a fluke. You have to be happy with a core of players. A la Matt Cassel, Dwayne Bowe, Carr/Flowers, Hali, Dorsey, Jackson.
Why would they trade away their first round pick this last year in TJ?
I think he’s exaggerating.
by TonylovesKC on Oct 19, 2009 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Plus
Why would he trade Succop or Colquitt? I don’t think he’s willing to overturn this roster and give us another 2 win season next year. I think he keeps Albert, swaps him to left guard, trades waters, drafts a LT and RT, then trades for a new linebacker, or uses a 2nd round pick for one, then trades LJ for a pick.
by TonylovesKC on Oct 19, 2009 1:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
BA is the safest amongst the 3...
Morgan and DJ are a crap shoot at this point…
by butchcassidy on Oct 18, 2009 7:49 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
May stay on the team
but not at LT. He obviously has some potential as an OL, but may not be as strong an LT as we thought last year. Since he was a mid-first round pick, I’d be fine with sliding him to RT or guard (wouldn’t be too overpaid).
by Chiefs4Life on Oct 18, 2009 8:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Also agree
It would be dumb as hell to trade Albert. He might be having a rough year but he is a solid lineman. I think drafting Russle Okung for LT and moving BA over to RT would give us the book ends we have been craving for a long time.
Anyone wishing we woulda taken Clady instead of Dorsey at this point? Impossible to forsee but I cant help running it over in my head.
by MasterBlaster7 on Oct 18, 2009 8:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I frequently dream of what we’d look like with Clady and Albert (although I know we wouldn’t have taken Albert if we took Clady)
by scottbwalters on Oct 19, 2009 12:05 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dujan Morgan is still on the team?
I remember Dawson to Taylor, Kenney to Carson, and Blackledge catching the snap in his facemask. Seen it all...
by BinSC on Oct 18, 2009 7:52 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Its a shame...
Because DJ and Belcher are the only LB we have that can tackle.
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
by GenericBrand on Oct 18, 2009 7:57 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Disagree there.
Vrable and Hali do pretty well tackling as well as Corey Mays. Mays is a liability in pass coverage which is why DJ gets on the field. I think we have LB’s with pretty much the same level of skill which is why DJ sits. Have to be better than the guy ahead of you, not just as good.
I remember Dawson to Taylor, Kenney to Carson, and Blackledge catching the snap in his facemask. Seen it all...
by BinSC on Oct 18, 2009 8:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I watched DJ make tackles today.
And every other LB get mowed over at least once each trying to make lazy arm tackles. The tackling on this team in general is awful.
"Success is never ending, failure is never final."
by GenericBrand on Oct 18, 2009 8:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wouldn't say awful.
They miss their share, but after the Greg Robinson years….our tackling is outstanding. Once you’ve seen awful, you never forget.
DJ made a couple of plays, but he was only on the field for a couple. Not much to go on there. I saw Mays filling the hole many plays. He was solid if not spectacular. I think Demorrio had one of his lesser efforts.
I remember Dawson to Taylor, Kenney to Carson, and Blackledge catching the snap in his facemask. Seen it all...
by BinSC on Oct 18, 2009 8:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought I saw Demorrio more than I have before
We Will kick at least 4 Teams Asses in 09
And Succop will be the Key in two of them.
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by Steve_Chiefs on Oct 18, 2009 8:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think Demorrio had one of his lesser efforts.
Huh? He blocked a punt (which led to a FG) and deflected a pass on a 3rd down (a pass which was headed toward a wide open receiver) in the 4th quarter…leading to another punt and possibly preserving the lead…and that’s a “lesser” effort?
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by PVChiefsfan on Oct 18, 2009 8:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He also missed a tackle that led to a FG...
DJ is better then either of those 2 thats for sure. He made 2 huge plays and was only on the feild a quarter of the time the other 2.
by darwithabar on Oct 18, 2009 9:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yup, DJ wasn't out there for long, but it seemed like he made some good plays when he WAS
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by upamtn on Oct 18, 2009 9:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1 for the arm tackle observation
I don’t think I could count on 2 hands how often they missed an arm tackle. Cooley’s sideline romp was especially embarrassing. There was absolutely no reason he should have gained any more than 5 yards on that play.
by paChiefsFan on Oct 18, 2009 11:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think Lombardi was also correct with the Tony G. trade.
He did however write a piece on “Chief’s” character issues or something that seemed to be rather irrelevant if not speculative.
Consistency is only a value if you are not a screw up.
by schraggyj on Oct 18, 2009 7:59 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
it was about Haley and composure
by butchcassidy on Oct 18, 2009 8:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No
he did write a piece right after the draft questioning the “character” of some of Pioli’s draft picks…and it was completely clear when Lombardi failed to back up any of his speculation that he was talking directly out of his anus
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by PVChiefsfan on Oct 18, 2009 8:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, i remember
I think it was referencing D. Washington for a “team disciplinary action” or some junk like that. A totally unfounded article. But he has been on top of the Gonzales trade and the Cassel longterm contract
by Fourstrike89 on Oct 18, 2009 8:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
At the time this came out, I think it was in the context of Washington's conflicts with the NCAA.
He lost his senior year of eligibility. He was a reach-for-upside, with potentially high value for a 4th-rounder. I haven’t heard anything negative about Washington since he became a Chief. I haven’t seen a whole lot positive out of him on the field. He’s not as quick or as fluid as I expected him to be.
Washington reminds me of a Bartee/Wesley kind of pick, hoping for upside from an overlooked player with decent measurables (in a league filled with undersized DBs).
No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.
by hmills110 on Oct 19, 2009 12:19 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
haha
Well I told people here on AP that Albert WASN’T a left tackle but rather a great right guard. he has sloppy footwork for a tackle. until we drat a franchise backside tackle then we will be alright
by Chiefs190 on Oct 18, 2009 8:00 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I say...
draft a LT (if he is legit) in the 1st and move Albert to LG, Waters to C (stop-gap). We can address RG in free agency (maybe Lutui from Arizona). Then for right tackle draft a OT in the 2nd. (maybe Young from ND).
LT Okung, Albert, Young
LG Albert, Alleman
C Waters, Alleman
RG Lutui, Nudukwe
RT Young, O’Callaghan, C Brown
This line is deep. Our other 2nd rounder and 3rd rounder can be used to pick up a LB (Spikes? Kindle? Norwood? Selvie?) and a WR (Tate? Shipley? Decker? Briscoe?). I know a lot of people want a play-making S, but maybe we can still get one in the 4th in Rolle who played for Florida State and will fall because he took a year off to study at Cambridge. We would fix a lot a problems without spending too much money with the exception of the top 10 pick and Lutui who won’t break the bank. We can use the extra money we saved this year by not spending to go out and get some players. (Wilfork? Dansby? Boldin in a trade for 2011 picks?) Last thing we have to do is patch up our coaching staff (Crennel?) and we are at least AFC West favorites by this time next year.
by I_Bleed_Red. on Oct 19, 2009 12:20 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not sure I see Waters in the future for this ballclub.
I remember cringing when Szott had to sit, and then all of a sudden Waters was a stud. I think he did pretty well between Roaf and Grunhard and Roaf and Wiegmann. But now? I just dunno. I don’t think he’s buying into the program and I hate to think of the fallout from moving him to C when he sees himself as a Pro Bowl G.
No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.
by hmills110 on Oct 19, 2009 12:33 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If you ask...
me he looks more like a center than a guard. I know they have tinkered with the idea before so I wasn’t throwing out there randomly. I just think he would be the perfect stop-gap until we could find his replacement. We can get one more good season out of him.
by I_Bleed_Red. on Oct 19, 2009 3:29 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I Bleed Red
That draft would be historic. No way Sergio, Norwood, or Spikes fall to even our pick from the falcons. Also, Young and Lutai wont be their with our falcon pick either. Unless we aquire a high 2nd rounder then we wont have a draft like that. Maybe we get a 2nd for DJ and thats possible, but O Callahan looks like a solid starter to me, probably the best RT weve had in a long time.
by darwithabar on Oct 19, 2009 2:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
His footwork is quite a bit better this season than last.
At least to my eye. A franchise left tackle and a move to the inside by Albert would probably be good. So would an investment in the 2nd and 3rd rounds in interior linemen.
No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.
by hmills110 on Oct 19, 2009 12:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree. These 2 players have been worthless and are not difference makers.....DJ for Buffalo's Evans or TO; Morgan for a 7th round pick?
Draft a LT and move Albert over to RT.
by NFL season ticket holder on Oct 18, 2009 8:01 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
no no no no no NOT for TO ... no TO ever ever ever no no no please god NO
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by upamtn on Oct 18, 2009 9:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Haley would quit if Pioli brought in TO
I remember reading that Haley was interviewing with Jerry Jones for the Dallas HC job & flat out told Jerry that he wouldn’t take the job if TO remained on the team. THAT is conviction.
by jmcgoblue on Oct 19, 2009 6:38 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
“I’m hearing they don’t like anyone, including Branden Albert, who they feel is not a left tackle.”
Finally someone noticed. Albert is a Guard. Put him there and trade Brian “hold ’em” Waters.
by SillyHatDay on Oct 18, 2009 8:03 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Waters will not be a chief next year
possibly not in the nfl next year. We need to start thinking about a replacement for him, now
Sackoff (McIntosh,Goff) like Brangelina.
by DaChefs on Oct 18, 2009 8:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Waters could be good again
… if the Chiefs get a Center who doesn’t get run over on every play.
by paChiefsFan on Oct 18, 2009 11:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Very Possible!
I would love for them to go and get a LT with their 1st pick next yr. We also need a center. I would trade DJ and DuJuan in a combo for Evans or a good O-lineman or a 3rd round pick for next year. Hopefully next yr they will get actual players and not just bodies to fill the roster.
by LocoGonzo on Oct 18, 2009 8:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
it is frustrating that this year we watched guards/centers with lots of talent sitting there as we pick a CB etc, and the previous year we watched nicks among others
by SDChief on Oct 18, 2009 8:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
especially when mike richardson showed more in a game than ive seen from donald washington in 4
by SDChief on Oct 18, 2009 8:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Washington was a "measurables" picked for up-side.
It doesn’t appear he’s really ready for the NFL, yet, if ever.
No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.
by hmills110 on Oct 18, 2009 10:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pioli's style...
seems to be pick sure things in rounds 1-3 and projects in 4-7.
by I_Bleed_Red. on Oct 19, 2009 12:26 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeppers.
And I, too, was a little bit concerned about letting O-Line go unaddressed until the 5th. I think the organization really thought they had something good in Goff and that McIntosh would be a lot better if they got him to trim down.
No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.
by hmills110 on Oct 19, 2009 12:35 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I'd be fine with them trading DJ and Morgan
it seems like if DJ was going to rise to whatever Haley is looking for he would of done it by now. We might as well get a pick out of him. Morgan won’t get much in return I would guess so if he goes fine, or if he stays and just plays ST, I’m okay with that too.
As far as Albert goes, I think that trading him is total crazy talk. If they don’t think he’s a LT, that’s fine, buy we’re already 2 starters short of on offensive line. If they trade him and don’t get a starting OL in return they deserve a public flogging.
It's a good thing Pioli and Haley aren't running AP or a lot of you guys would of been traded or cut for cast offs from the Pats Pulpit.
by KCporkchop on Oct 18, 2009 8:06 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
exactly
has nothing to do with DJ;s talent, he just doesnt fit, so since we wont be franchising or handing him a long term deal…lets get a pick
by SDChief on Oct 18, 2009 8:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why would someone trade a starting OL for a starting OL?
I remember Dawson to Taylor, Kenney to Carson, and Blackledge catching the snap in his facemask. Seen it all...
by BinSC on Oct 18, 2009 8:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't know, that's why I'm not in favor of trading him.
It's a good thing Pioli and Haley aren't running AP or a lot of you guys would of been traded or cut for cast offs from the Pats Pulpit.
by KCporkchop on Oct 18, 2009 8:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
DJ!
Is this DJ’s final year on his contract?
by LocoGonzo on Oct 18, 2009 8:09 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Next Year
Would be greatt. We need Russel okung from oklahoma state then get the Pouncey twins fom Florida( one plays guard and center both 6’5 330 pounds) build from there we will be solid
by Chiefs190 on Oct 18, 2009 8:10 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
lol no way we draft all 3 of those guys im betting we take a DT or safety with our first round pick then go for o line in second
by bflowers24probowl on Oct 18, 2009 8:34 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
No way we take a DT in the first
If your thinking Suh, no he is not a NT, we do not need a DE to ride the bench for that kinda money.
Safety, now maybe LT, off chance of maybe a WR it seems every week there is talk how Haley doesn’t like the production from our group of WRs
by BAMFSpecialOps on Oct 18, 2009 9:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can see them trading Dorsey and taking Suh in the first
he has more of the frame for a 3-4 DE than Dorsey does and Dorsey isn’t their guy……..
by mcclanahanman on Oct 18, 2009 9:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
our defense is last in the league we need more help there than on offense
by bflowers24probowl on Oct 18, 2009 8:35 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Our defense moved their YPG from 403 to 379
moving us up from 32 to 28 approx. Remove the Portis and Moss plays and who knows. Just saying as a homer, week 6 is almost in the books and my Chiefs are not the worst D in the league now. :)
by TonyG88 on Oct 18, 2009 8:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mike Lombardi
Is this guy liked because he is accurate more times than not, or is it because he creates something to talk about?
by Chief1 on Oct 18, 2009 8:46 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Bit of both
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by Chris Thorman on Oct 18, 2009 9:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well that kind of foreshadows next years draft
we may be going LT in an effort to replace Brian Waters with Albert. Who would be an out of this world LG. RT is O’Callaghan for a very long time.. Hopefully we can get something out of DJ cuz as of late, he’s shown he has no value to us
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by 808NaNz808 on Oct 18, 2009 8:50 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Whatever they do with Albert
they shouldn’t get rid of him and I don’t think they will. We can’t get rid of goof o lineman to draft more. If they want to move him to guard then fine but he needs to stay.
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by Patrick Allen on Oct 18, 2009 8:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well put
Albert is a very good lineman and just now a second year player. He will get even better. It is senseless to trade him, when we are searching for good linemen across the entire line, and need to have Water’s replacement ready to step in.
There is no way to replace Albert and Waters and fill the holes in the right side.
by TXChiefan on Oct 18, 2009 11:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So if they don't think Albert is a Left Tackle
Why are they playing him there? Its not like we have a bunch of super stars playing the other offensive line positions.
I’m not buying that they don’t like any of the players they inherited.
by ChiefDJ on Oct 18, 2009 8:54 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
So if they don’t think Albert is a Left Tackle Why are they playing him there?
Maybe because he sucks less than everyone else on the team?
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by PVChiefsfan on Oct 18, 2009 8:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
They could have signed Levi Jones
Moved Albert to LG, Waters to C, Niswanger to RG
by mcclanahanman on Oct 18, 2009 9:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
niswanger should go imo
I’m not impressed but he might be ok as a G
by Ren on Oct 18, 2009 10:31 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
If they wanted to
sign Jones, I think they still could because I don’t think anyone else wants him either & he’s still sitting at home.
by ttownmikey on Oct 18, 2009 10:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree
it is trade deadline BS. These reporters are trying to drum up readership. THey seem to think the NFL is MLB and that if you are out of the playoff race you should sell off all your good players for draft picks.
It is a bunch of bull shit. Just like the guy saying the Chiefs were going to trade their nose tackle Glenn Dorsey. These guys don’t even kno what fucking position these guys play.
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by Patrick Allen on Oct 18, 2009 8:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am
the cronyism with this administration is completely out of check. If Pioli didn’t have a hand in drafting them or Haley hasn’t been around to coach them – then they don’t want them. The outright switch the to the 3-4 should have been writing on the wall that regardless of what talent is on this team they’re not gonna stick unless they fit the mold. I think the only player they genuinely like is Flowers, other than that I’d venture to say any Chief that was here before the Pioli regime will be gone in two seasons time (at max)
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by KansasCityShuffle on Oct 18, 2009 9:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hali is the only other one
I can think who is successfully fighting to keep his job
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by KansasCityShuffle on Oct 18, 2009 9:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would like to know
what it is that they don’t like about DJ exactly. It confuses me.
by KCMizzou on Oct 18, 2009 9:01 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Just a guess
But he hasn’t taken charge/control/hasn’t became a leader. Bowe responded when he was put on the 3rd string, and is better off for it, but DJ just seems to accept it and would rather sit around 99% of the game.
by BAMFSpecialOps on Oct 18, 2009 9:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's refusing to play Haley's game.
It’s certainly not because he doesn’t make plays when they decide to let him on the field.
by NJ Chiefs Fan on Oct 18, 2009 10:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Get rid of the whole O line
Take all our draft picks and build one hell of a O line. we use F A to fix defense.
by Charles # 1 chiefs fan on Oct 18, 2009 9:10 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Great Offensive Lines
Did you miss the post on how great olines are made? We drafted an offensive lineman in the 1st round & you are ready to get rid of him? We are not going to build a great offensive line by using every draft pick on offensive linemen.
by Chief1 on Oct 18, 2009 9:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
aka the Madden technique
Time is a great teacher... unfortunately it kills all it's pupils.
by 808NaNz808 on Oct 18, 2009 9:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What's different from last season to this season?
We understand the playing weight, but what other factors are there that we’re missing as a whole that explains Albert’s regression? He seemingly had a solid rookie campaign but his play this year is nothing short of pretty. It would suck to have to move him to Guard. Why is he having such a bad sophmore season? I just dont get it.
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by KansasCityShuffle on Oct 18, 2009 9:54 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
whole different offense, scheme, etc etc etc
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by upamtn on Oct 18, 2009 10:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Under/Over
on when we trade for Adalius Thomas?
I’m laughing to myself about that one because I’m not positive this won’t happen. And that makes me conflictedly amused.
Bask in the glory that is Kwame Harris. Poor Alex...
by JHWK on Oct 18, 2009 9:59 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Supporting Evidence:
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/10/18/adalius-thomas-benched-for-performance/
Bask in the glory that is Kwame Harris. Poor Alex...
by JHWK on Oct 18, 2009 10:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Albert is a talented player and played well last year
I blame a lot of his falloff on the coaching staff. I don’t buy the excuse that Haley and Pioli think Albert is soft and not good. If they can’t find a way to utilize the talent we have thats their problem and only going to make rebuilding more difficult
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by AK_47 on Oct 18, 2009 10:07 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, Albert sucks less badly than anyone else.
I thought he was moving better this season, and one of the better left tackles goin’. I’ll review the tape. But I’d never be against bringing a top talent in and moving Albert back inside. With a better line next to him, I think he’d get the job done where he’s at. But you can NEVER be too good at left tackle.
I’m not quite sure about all the drama surrounding DJ. Looks to me like a player who’s struggled to be healthy, and he’s winning back some minutes with some good plays, but he hasn’t seized the starting job, from what I’ve seen. I actually found it refreshing to see him getting more minutes, today, and getting something done with ’em. To my eye, he made some progress, today, but has a ways to go.
No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.
by hmills110 on Oct 18, 2009 10:14 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
i dont know what DJ did to pee in haleys cheerios
I liked him personally but if they get a decent pick like. 2-3 then ill accept it
by Ren on Oct 18, 2009 10:28 PM CDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
It wont happen, Maybe the DJ trade...
Honestly I would rather them trade DJ then DuJuan Morgan. Our safeties suck total ball, why not give Morgan a try. We dont even know if he is good. I would be pissed with anything less then a 2nd rounder for DJ. All he has done is made plays when he has been on the feild.
by darwithabar on Oct 18, 2009 10:33 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
From what I saw in preseason, Morgan isn't very good.
No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.
by hmills110 on Oct 19, 2009 12:37 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Really...
What about the Rams game. Also if were giving up on 3rd round picks already then thats pathetic. If DuJuan cant develop then our coaching staff isnt getting it done because when he was pushed he did damn good.
by darwithabar on Oct 19, 2009 3:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry but I have to say something.
A lot of people are talking bad about Waters. He is doing the same things he has done since he has been here. The only difference is this year, we hadn’t won a game so the refs don’t give us the benefit of the doubt. How many times this year have we seen the other teams hold our defense and not get called.
Players hold and try to get that extra jump at the snap it’s just now the refs are watching closer because we are bad.
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by bringbacktheglory on Oct 18, 2009 11:11 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
The refs are against us excuse doesn't wash
Waters play has deteriorated ever since Willie Roaf retired.
He’s an average Guard, but I think its clear he was riding Roafs coat tails to the Pro Bowl.
by ChiefDJ on Oct 18, 2009 11:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That echoes my thinking.
I don’t have a lot, other than general impressions, to back it up, though.
No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.
by hmills110 on Oct 19, 2009 12:38 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I never said the refs were out to get just us.
I don’t know how much football you watch besides the Chiefs. When ever a good team plays a bad team the calls favor the good teams a lot. If you only watch the Chiefs then watch some of the games when we had the best offense in the league, we got away with a lot of holding calls because the refs expected us to dominate the other teams defense, so you can get away with more. When your a bad team you don’t.
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by bringbacktheglory on Oct 19, 2009 9:40 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ummm...
Waters went to the probowl last yr…and the yr before…..and Roaf has been gone for a while….so I dont think he was riding anybodies coat tails…..he,s getting older, learning a new offense and has sub par linemen around him…There could be a million reasons why he is struggling this yr…Maybe some of the holding is coming from helping other linemen on THEIR blocks….over compensating for others takes you off track to do your own job at 100% every snap…..not to mention he is playing with a new player on the line just about every game it seems like. Sometime the guys some of you try to bash makes absolutely no sense…How bout bashing CasselThe only good thing i can say about him is he is not throwing INTs. Other than that he is holding onto the ball too long, takes too many sacks, overthrows too many recievers, and does not even comlete 60% of his throws. But everyone here is ready to annoint him as the savior, And yes, I understand his line sucks, but many of the plays that go bad are just plain HIS fault….as far as Albert goes, maybe a switch inside could work or maybe, since he lost wieght he is easier to move….not to mention that he is no longer a rookie, other teams have tape on him and could be keying on his shortcomings a little more than last yr…
by KCinAZ on Oct 19, 2009 2:10 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
And dont be surprised if we go for..
A RB early in the draft. Our running game is struggling bad. LJ is getting to THAT AGE and Charles has not shown the ability to take over as a starter.And he has fumbling issues. LJ is great once he gets in space, but he does not hit the hole fast enough and cannot make people miss at the line of scrimmage. I definately think we need o-line help, but maybe we look for that in FA. I just think LJ has run his course and lacks a hunger to be great. Maybe dangling him as trade bait could get another O-lineman or a higher draft pick. I dont think DJ has shown enough in his time with the chiefs to garner anything higher than a 5th round pick
by KCinAZ on Oct 19, 2009 2:21 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
He averages 6 tackles a game....
Which is top 10 for his posistion. He also will get a substantial contract at the end of the year from someone. He is worth a 2nd. They would just let him walk before they give in on the demand for a 5th, even a 4th. Maybe they give in to a 3rd but thats the lowest they will go.
by darwithabar on Oct 19, 2009 3:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What a Joke.
when you idiot’s going grow up, and learn . this team is not going anywhere not now not for years to come. because of dumb idiots like todd haley, and the dog from new England , i feel sorry for you fan out there. you can be easy brain washed. don’t you learn they are here to fuck this team up. with their stupid mistakes look at Jarred Allan .. jimmy wilkerson. who is next DJ.. i hope they trade him, because he deserve better than this trash we got. and if 22 from the street can win 2 games lets see how many can this fool win this year.
by kickboxer on Oct 19, 2009 3:20 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Wow
Oh and Pioli/Haley weren’t even on the staff when JA was traded.
Don't blame me, I voted for content of character.
by paratrooper on Oct 19, 2009 8:28 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
im so
tired of this not his guy crap man if we start trading good players for whatever reason man this team will just be taking 5 damn steps back and all of you know it if we were 5-0 noone would be saying any of this wake up peeple
by cainsbigonchiefs on Oct 19, 2009 9:03 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Woosauuu.
I feel the frustration, but you have to come to peace with yourself my friend…Yeah, we will all have to live with some horrible, horrible decisions made by former coaches and GM, but all you have is the 53 on sunday. I honestly believe they will build us a winner, and hopefully it will have a few great players in there.
by Sea of RED on Oct 19, 2009 1:20 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
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