For Those of You Who Had the Opportunity to Watch the Game
by 808NaNz808 on Oct 18, 2009 4:20 PM CDT
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PrintI have a few questions and I kind of want to use this as an open post for anyone else who was also unable to watch the game to ask any more questions. Sorry Chris if this should be a fanshot but I figured a post would get more conversations going.
1) How did Alleman do in relief of Brian Waters? Does he have a future at that position?
2) I've been down on Wade Smith at LT all week. How did he do?
3) I was predicting a career day for Haynesworth but apparently he had an injury of some sort? Was he pushing the pocket on Cassel?
4) Why did I hear that Zorn threw a challenge flag within 2 minutes of the fourth?
5) How did the players initially react to the win? Were they jumping like they had just won the super bowl?
6) Is O'Callaghan still looking like our RT of the future like he has the last two weeks?
7) How did Tyson Jackson do against their reserve LT?
8) Was Dorsey constant in pushing the pocket?
9) In the 3-4, it's often two people are responsible for every sack, who was the second party in Vrabels sack?
10) DJ got in apparently? Was he alright?
Thanks guys.. Today was huge and I'm glad we finally got that chip off our shoulder. Here's to 11-5!! GO CHIEFS!!!
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Haynesworth had a big game...he was in the backfield all game
Our O-line struggled in pass protection, but looked decent run blocking
Week 6 Prediction:
Kansas City Chiefs 77 - Washington Redskins 2
by craig in calgary on Oct 18, 2009 4:25 PM CDT reply actions
BTW
Turk McBride had 2 sacks today.
Week 6 Prediction:
Kansas City Chiefs 77 - Washington Redskins 2
by craig in calgary on Oct 18, 2009 4:26 PM CDT reply actions
that's just sickening
he’s talented there’s no denying that.. He just didn’t fit
Time is a great teacher... unfortunately it kills all it's pupils.
I am happy for him
doesn’t bother me…
he had no position here
* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season
Against the Packers O-Line whom are in contention with the Chiefs for...
futility to protect the QB…
by butchcassidy on Oct 18, 2009 7:57 PM CDT up reply actions
Q #9
Vrabel split a double team and caused the fumble and recovered the fumble.
All his as far as I could see :)
We Will kick at least 4 Teams Asses in 09
And Succop will be the Key in two of them.
" Think and talk positive football off the field." Hank Stram
and I'll say it again
he’s a freaking badass and we jipped NE big time in that trade.
Time is a great teacher... unfortunately it kills all it's pupils.
Q #4
I think he tried but the play was inside the 2 minute period.
Bowes catch and run maybe?
We Will kick at least 4 Teams Asses in 09
And Succop will be the Key in two of them.
" Think and talk positive football off the field." Hank Stram
Q #1
I don’t think Alleman played. Waters in all game I thought
We Will kick at least 4 Teams Asses in 09
And Succop will be the Key in two of them.
" Think and talk positive football off the field." Hank Stram
I thought he got pulled for injury for a while?
Time is a great teacher... unfortunately it kills all it's pupils.
I think he did, but just for a few plays
* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season
Man I'm glad I didn't catch that Haynesworth was eating up our Pro Bowler
I would have cried!
We Will kick at least 4 Teams Asses in 09
And Succop will be the Key in two of them.
" Think and talk positive football off the field." Hank Stram
by Steve_Chiefs on Oct 18, 2009 4:41 PM CDT up reply actions
I was curious about Wade as well
When Albert is back, why can’t Wade get a look at RG? Anything’s gotta be better than Mike Goff.
Agreed on that Goff sentiment
he’s been Gofful all season, no wonder SD let him go
Time is a great teacher... unfortunately it kills all it's pupils.
Ndukwe would be a better plan at RG
We Will kick at least 4 Teams Asses in 09
And Succop will be the Key in two of them.
" Think and talk positive football off the field." Hank Stram
by Steve_Chiefs on Oct 18, 2009 4:39 PM CDT up reply actions
wasn't he super good in relief in Miami?
Like #4 among all guards in pass protection or something or other
Time is a great teacher... unfortunately it kills all it's pupils.
He would probably make Niswanger and O'Callahan look better
Goff can’t take a single person on one-on-one
We Will kick at least 4 Teams Asses in 09
And Succop will be the Key in two of them.
" Think and talk positive football off the field." Hank Stram
by Steve_Chiefs on Oct 18, 2009 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions
yes.
I agree, Ndukwe at RG
I sound like a broken record, I’ve been asking for that since forever.
sounds like Goff was good run blocking, but not pass protecting today?
* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season
well, I didn't see it either, but following the play by play...
3 Haynseworth is as good as advertised, injury didn’t slow him down, nor did the Chiefs OL
7 T Jackson had a batted down pass, and I think he was in on a tackle or two
8 Dorsey was doing very well, had several tackles and helped cause the sacks that Vrabel and Hali got
10 DJ had at least one great tackle on defense, and one special teams tackle… sounds like he did ok
* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season
Hali was good and bad.
JUst sometimes seem to get run right around the pocket.
Others when he went inside seemed like the O had a hard time stopping his MO
We Will kick at least 4 Teams Asses in 09
And Succop will be the Key in two of them.
" Think and talk positive football off the field." Hank Stram
by Steve_Chiefs on Oct 18, 2009 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions
When/if the front 3 get up the field better, Hali's angle automatically improves.
No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.
In answer to the question, though, Jackson wasn't matched up versus left tackle.
Dorsey and Hali feasted on the backup left tackle – won some, lost some. But the secondary mostly held up when the QB had time.
No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.
Brown never ran so fast as in that backpedal to stop the TD!
Oh and Didn’t McGraw sack some groceries :)
We Will kick at least 4 Teams Asses in 09
And Succop will be the Key in two of them.
" Think and talk positive football off the field." Hank Stram
by Steve_Chiefs on Oct 18, 2009 5:06 PM CDT up reply actions
Right after he ran through a block by Ladell Betts
"The first step to penetration... must not be lateral"
-Confucius, in contrary to Glenn Dorsey lining up in the 2-tech
Copper is a Special team stud
I don’t care if he ever plays WR for us. He just makes tackles on kicks!
We Will kick at least 4 Teams Asses in 09
And Succop will be the Key in two of them.
" Think and talk positive football off the field." Hank Stram
yeah, I admit my venom for him was misplaced
* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season
Apparently
I was looking at the game time thread and he had like three big time stops on ST huh… Guess he’s off the hook
Time is a great teacher... unfortunately it kills all it's pupils.
+1
He’s been awesome in punt and kick coverage all year.
Week 6 Prediction:
Kansas City Chiefs 77 - Washington Redskins 2
by craig in calgary on Oct 18, 2009 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions
off-topic
Anyone watching New England? Wow. Brady 5 touchdown passes in 2nd quarter & they are destroying Tennessee 45 – 0 at the half. Tennessee is dismal right now.
Maybe us fans need a mercy rule
There has to be better game to watch :)
We Will kick at least 4 Teams Asses in 09
And Succop will be the Key in two of them.
" Think and talk positive football off the field." Hank Stram
by Steve_Chiefs on Oct 18, 2009 4:55 PM CDT up reply actions
Sunday Ticket - currently watching the Faders give the Iggles all they can handle.
No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.
LOL
Bowe and Wade FTW.
When you fail to prepare, you prepare to fail.
by NJChieffan16 on Oct 18, 2009 5:06 PM CDT up reply actions
Well....
since the Titans decided they didn’t need to cover Randy Moss and he caught two TD’s in 57 seconds, the score doesn’t surprise me one bit
Ryan Succop will be the kicker for the AFC in the 2011 Pro Bowl
1) How did Alleman do in relief of Brian Waters? Does he have a future at that position?
I think Alleman does have a future, if he can stay healthy. Waters had some brain farts. But got the start.
2) I’ve been down on Wade Smith at LT all week. How did he do?
If the right side did as well as the left side, today, Cassel would’ve had a better day. Smith still gets pushed way back, but I think he has quicker feet than last season and better technique, so he’s pushed back, but he’s still between the QB and the pass rusher.
3) I was predicting a career day for Haynesworth but apparently he had an injury of some sort? Was he pushing the pocket on Cassel?
He had injuries, but still played great in spots. LJ got some room running off-tackle against the ’Skins. Hope to see more of that and a little more outside running, to loosen up the middle.
5) How did the players initially react to the win? Were they jumping like they had just won the super bowl?
Gave Haley a Gatorade shower (although it looked like water).
10) DJ got in apparently? Was he alright?
DJ was just fine. LB is starting to look like a strength, and I’m seeing pretty much all of ’em in the rotatiion, now.
No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.
thanks hmillls
I’m hoping Alleman can take over that LG spot eventually, but maybe we have something in Wade, he was going up against some serious talent today. Silently Washington has one of the best defenses in the NFL
Time is a great teacher... unfortunately it kills all it's pupils.
Probably true
D-line and secondary. Might the LB’s be the weak spot.
The Washington O is not very good. We tried to revive Portis for them but not enough QB to win em more games
We Will kick at least 4 Teams Asses in 09
And Succop will be the Key in two of them.
" Think and talk positive football off the field." Hank Stram
by Steve_Chiefs on Oct 18, 2009 5:13 PM CDT up reply actions
I think puttin' in Collins was a mistake.
I don’t think Alleman saw much/any action. I think he’s fighting a shoulder injury, at present.
Goff was instrumental in some nice run plays.
No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.
Still want to see Nduckwe in there and see if the line performs better as whole
Goff ain’t getting cut just backup.
We Will kick at least 4 Teams Asses in 09
And Succop will be the Key in two of them.
" Think and talk positive football off the field." Hank Stram
by Steve_Chiefs on Oct 18, 2009 5:26 PM CDT up reply actions
Is New England going
to set a new record for points scored in a game? They lead 52 – 0 with 10 minutes left in 3rd Q. Record is 72 reg. season & 73 in Championship game. Tennessee isn’t putting up much resistance right now.
CBS took the game off the air
I can’t even watch it with NFL sunday ticket. I love when the stations decide what i need to watch. Because it was a local broadcast it was blacked out of sunday ticket
Try again.
When the game is pre-empted, the Sunday Ticket kicks in, and the game WILL show up in the 700’s on your dial.
It’s a real scramble, though. This happened with the Chiefs versus Giants the other day. Quick a cluster fuck getting my recording.
No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.
Comments.
2) Wade did pretty decent. He tried to block Andre Carter by jumping at his ankles and that is how Carter batted a Cassel pass down…..otherwise I think he did pretty good.
3) Hayneworth is HUGE!! He sticks out on the dline like a sore thumb. If he put in 100% on every single down he would have like 20 sacks a year and 35tfl.
4) It was on the punt return when Wade fumbled and Morgan jumped on it. Zorn is an idiot! Nothing to challenge.
10) DJ was a beast. He made a tackle on some dude….I dont remember who…it was an out pass in the flat and DJ stuck him hard. I loved it.
Haley didnt seem to care for the Gatorade shower but it was probably cold and his very first one. After the shock wore off he smiled the biggest smile and turned to give fives and shake hands. It was a very special thing to watch……I would love to be on the plane back home.
"Its going to be a challenge, its going to feel like forever, and there will be difficulties. But we will emerge on the other side of it stronger than we were when we entered." ~ Sudden
The Gatorade Shower was something I was looking for from the 1st win.
It WAS a big shit-eatin’ grin on Haley’s face, once it dawned on him what the drenching meant. The shower symbolizes player support for the HC. Not sure Waters is one who’s bought in, but you can see that the players generally buy in.
No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.
big time
How the hell do you let a defense like that give up so much to the worst starting quarterback in the league?
Time is a great teacher... unfortunately it kills all it's pupils.
Questions 1, 2, 3, 6...
I didnt’ notice any difference today over the first 5 games in OL play. It didn’t matter who was in or where they played. Haynesworth was dominating everyone and beat the crap out of Cassle. The difference in the running game seemed to be play calling and LJ ran harder. He didn’t go down with the first touch today and showed a little more speed (not much).
This OL is what it is. There are no magic bullets on the bench. My bet is that they will be playing at the same level in game 16 as they are now. Just don’t have the talent. Moving them around is just reshuffling deck chairs. Cassel won’t last the season at this rate. He took a huge beating.
I remember Dawson to Taylor, Kenney to Carson, and Blackledge catching the snap in his facemask. Seen it all...
Sounds like a solid take, BinSC.
I’m still holding out hope for Ndukwe and Alleman. I think Barry Richardson’s been activated. I wonder if he’s trainin’-up for G or T? I think he could play G, but isn’t quite T material.
I’m really starting to sour on Brian Waters, though. Most would say he’s one of few bright spots, and I recognize that Haynesworth’s a beast. But he’s been part of the problem, to my (casual) eye. Everybody else gets it right on the O-Line, for once, and you can usually count on a penalty or a blown assignment by Waters to make SURE they’re in poor position on 3rd down, or the 1st down conversion is called back.
I don’t like the angle or spin that Shitlock puts on it, but Waters just looks like a closet malcontent.
No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.
And I have a LOT of respect for Cassel's toughness.
But this can’t be good for his long-term prospects.
No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.
He really held on to the ball too long.
When I can yell “throw the ball, throw the ball, throw the ball, throw the ball” before he gets sacked, he’s had time to throw it away.
The pass beyond the line of scrimmage was terrible also.
by NJ Chiefs Fan on Oct 18, 2009 10:49 PM CDT up reply actions
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