2010 NFL Draft.
A couple days ago I put my mock draft up. A lot of people were wanting to take S Eric Berry. Now I know our defense needs attention, but we need to protect our quarterback. If Scott Pioli is somewhat satisfied with the offensive line at the end of the season he might just take S Eric Berry or another top player. I know the season is still young and it's a little early to judge what you see, but I am just trying to determine what our major need is right now which is OT and of course other positions, because with Brian Waters slowing down and Mike Goff almost running on empty I just have to believe that Scott Pioli is going with an OT.
Who would you want Scott Pioli to draft?
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Why would we take O Kung with our first pick.
We can Address the Interior line in the 2nd and 3rd round. O’Dowd, Iupati, and Mike Johnson are only 1/4 of the Interior linemen who will be imediate starters and they are all projected in the 2nd round. I think they will adress the OL in FA with Logan Mankins and then Draft a C like O Dowd or a G like Iupati with our 2b. I would not be surprised if Eric Berry is the first pick and a OLB or WR is the first 2nd rounder.
that'd be outstanding, IMO
If they got Berry in the first, then 2 OL starters in the 2nd/3rd.
* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season
agree agree agree
A man who says he can, and a man who says he can't are both right. Which one are you?
I don't see them moving Albert or picking a RT that high in round 1...
McCoy/Suh will be 3-4 ends, which we have 2 top 5 picks already in those positions, don’t see ANYONE picking a bench warmer.
Weatherspoon/Lewis are 4-3 OLBs, not 3-4 OLBs.
Cody IMO is not a first round pick we should even look at, Boo will be around in the second/third if NT becomes a huge issue by the end of the season.
I can’t honestly see Haley/Pioli picking up an ILB with all our other needs in the first, Micah Johnson will be around later.
Berry>Mays. Nuff said
by BAMFSpecialOps on Oct 16, 2009 2:41 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
This was the same argument I saw last year
against picking up an OT in the first round. The Chiefs didn’t pick up an OT and consequently their new, expensive QB is in constant fear for his life. Albert is serviceable as an LT, but he is better off at guard and will never be the Pro Bowler at LT that we all want. That he was a first round pick doesn’t change that fact.
because you can tell all that from him playing 20 games
come on man are you joking? he allowed 4.5 sacks last year as a rookie.
Spread offense made it easier on the line
That changed a lot. Also, Waters helped him out a lot last year. This year, Waters is struggling.
"I don't know if I want to go to New York. They'll have to pay me a lot more money because I like it here in Kansas City." -- Roger Maris
Agree
But maybe none of the available OT are worth the Pick we might have.
Baluga has a thyroid issue and Okung is in a spread O.
Definitely not worth a top 5 pick if that is the case.
Voted Berry
We Will kick at least 4 Teams Asses in 09
And Succop will be the Key in two of them.
" Think and talk positive football off the field." Hank Stram
by Steve_Chiefs on Oct 16, 2009 6:05 PM CDT up reply actions
"Tell all that"
What, that he’s not a pro-bowler in the making at LT? At this point, I’d say the available evidence is headed in that direction, wouldn’t you?
First of all, sacks allowed is not the only stat you judge a LT by — there’s team rushing, penalties, etc. Tell me, how is Albert doing in these categories?
Second, 4.5 sacks allowed is not stellar, especially when running a spread offense as the Chiefs were doing last year.
I would love for Albert to prove me wrong.
Could not agree more, BAMF Special Ops
I was gonna show you a link to a mock draft I made but youve already seen it lol. Honestly, I dont see how people think drafting O Kung would help this team. The Offensive line (Dont laugh) is only missing 2 solid starters. Iupati and Pouncey would make this O line a strength on this team. Both are outstanding Run Blockers(Ecspecially Pouncey). Also if we could add Logan Mankins in FA then Waters could move to Center and You could Develop Iupati (Who I think is very Raw). Then you could replace Waters with Iupati. Another player I like Is O Dowd. My point being. WE DONT NEED A LT!!! We need interior linemen. The draft has 6 or 7 very good interior linemen available in the late 2nd and early 3rd. I have faith that pioli will follow my draft model. Maybe not the same players but his draft will be similar. Look at his recent drafts. He always picks up G and other OL in the late 1st early 2nd and 3rd.
I see your point
New starters at C and RG are needed.
Albert and O’Callaghan can probably hold down the OT spots.
That being said, IF a Top Tier LT is drafted… Albert could slide inside to fill one of the OG spots…
Not saying he has to, but he could.
There are several ways to fix the OL, drafting a new LT and moving Albert is one, Keeping the same OT and drafting a C and RG is another…
I wouldn’t mind keeping Albert, Waters, O’Callaghan and starting Ndukwe at RG… as long as they draft a starting Center…. and get rid of Goff.
But, I also wouldn’t mind Okung, Albert, Rookie C, Waters, O’Callaghan or something like that
* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season
Albert is also playing at a completely different weight
Also with Haley as the playcaller, anyone who thought there would not be growing pains with so much change, is well not smart. I have faith that Albert will get comfortable with all the changes and his game will pick back up, which is why I say no to a top LT and yes to guards/center later on in the draft.
by BAMFSpecialOps on Oct 16, 2009 4:06 PM CDT up reply actions
Good point...
Haley commented about the weight and the emphisis it places on proper technique, and the benefits of improved stamina, quickness, and versatility to pull/trap ect…
I hope Albert will make all the upgrade at LT a moot point by the end of the season. Because, taking Berry to upgrade the defense while not neglecting correcting the O-line would be a huge luxury.
by chrisclark_dfw on Oct 16, 2009 6:14 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah. Wait and see on Albert.
I think it’s too early to tell at a number of positions. The Chiefs team I see needs help the most on the perimeter. I’m not too happy with the current O-Line, of course, but KC doesn’t have a Witten or a Wes Welker, and Bowe and Bradley aren’t getting separation FAST when the blitz is on, either. And our secondary isnt gettin’ it done, either.
Not sure what Bobby Wade’s ceiling is, nor Bradley’s. We have the long-coveted Lance Long on the PS, now, and maybe HE will develop into that pesky slot receiver we need. Not sure about Leggett’s ceiling nor Washington’s. I don’t think DaJuan Morgan is worth a damn gettin’ off blocks.
I think that was what Haley was bitchin’ at Bowe about on the mic’ed up thing on Inside the NFL. I think Bowe was supposed to read the blitz and make a lot quicker break than he made. “Open your eyes!” I think is what Haley said. And I think Haley was spot on with that. You see LOTS of QBs face unblocked blitzers, but the fact that there’s a blitz says somebody’s singled-up and it’s HIS responsibility to make himself an easy target for the QB FAST. The good teams BEAT that blitz with a tough throw and catch for a BIG play, at least now and again. The margin of victory is to get on the positive side of the tipping point.
Similarly on the defensive side, with Otis Smith. The old regime wanted a “by-the-numbers” offense and defense, and it showed. Nobody out there was ever thinking for themselves. Just a bunch of athletes following instructions. There was not much risk-taking by players, and not much success when risks were taken, because the players weren’t very good at calculating the risks on the fly (one of the things Rod Woodson talks about doing as a player, which is why he’s a HOFer, today). I’ve felt this way about Chiefs teams since Marty’s day.
No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.
"The Offensive line (Dont laugh) is only missing 2 solid starters"
I’m not laughing, I’m crying.
ok... so who is not a solid starter?
Albert?
Waters?
O’Callaghan?
he’s right… new starters at C and RG…
and some depth at Tackle.
AND the new RG starter could easily be Ndukwe, Alleman or even Brown.
* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season
You're talking about 2/5 of the line
Plus Waters is having a miserable season. At a disgruntled 32 years old, his current performance might be a better indicator than his distinguished past of what the Chiefs can expect from him in the future.
And if Albert and O’Callaghan meet your definition of solid starters, then the Chiefs’ O-line is going to need more than just solid starters if it wants to be anything beyond average (although an average O-line would indeed be a strength on this team).
Waters isnt disgruntled....
All the reports ive heard is that he is happy with the new regime. He even showed leadership in practice once by telling Haley they need to keep their pads on because they havent won a game yet, When Haley offered the team the option of no pads. A savy Vet would have jumped at that opurtunity, ecspecially a disgruntled Vet.
Also, O Callahan has played way above average so far. The Chiefs OL was great when John Welbourn was the RT.
Also, Albert is one of the best young LTs in the NFL. He is adjusting to this NEW zone blocking scheme and New weight. He also has shown improvement in every game.
Now, Brian Waters could easily slide over to Center, We could also add Logan Mankins in FA.
The fact that you would laugh at that statement shows your inept ability to judge talent. Have you ever watched film on either O Kung or Berry. I too once thought O Kung was the pick just because he was the best OT, But Berry is twice the Athlete and will go to twice the Pro Bowls. Pioli is also not the type of Talent evaluator that would pass up on a talent like Berry or even Suh, Who are miles ahead of any other player. He would either Trade or take one of them. Also, Haley has shown so much Content about Albert being a “Building Block.” I highly doubt he will change his mind about that when Albert just keeps improving. Now maybe Albert gets injured and they are worried about him when he comes back then they draft a LT, but not in the top ten.
Also, for you to give up on Waters, who is only 32, is very shameful. He has been consistently good every year and would imediatly be one of the best Centers in the league if he was moved there.
Are we a Zone blocking team?
We Will kick at least 4 Teams Asses in 09
And Succop will be the Key in two of them.
" Think and talk positive football off the field." Hank Stram
by Steve_Chiefs on Oct 16, 2009 8:17 PM CDT up reply actions
You brought a great point
Waht exactly are we playing on O-line
and as well What other than Zone are we doing in D-secondary?
We Will kick at least 4 Teams Asses in 09
And Succop will be the Key in two of them.
" Think and talk positive football off the field." Hank Stram
by Steve_Chiefs on Oct 16, 2009 8:19 PM CDT up reply actions
I was under the impression just by watching that we were zone blocking...
I could be wrong. As for the secondary they are playing alot of zone.
by darwithabar on Oct 16, 2009 10:28 PM CDT up reply actions
maybe they just suck so much
That in reality they have blocking assignments, but are missing them so frequently, they just go after the guy right in front of them….. I don’t think I’ve seen 1 pulling guard this year
I really havent seen that many missed assignments, I think the Interior Linemen are just over matched.
I've seen a ton
of pulling guards and missed assignments
even more so than anyone being overmatched
* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season
I've noticed that
a lot also. On numerous occasions, whenever a guard pulls, the defensive lineman or LB shoot thru that vacancy & get to LJ as he is getting the handoff. Almost as though our guards are tipping that they’re pulling by a change in their stance or something because it always seems as though the defender shoots thru before the tackle can close the hole!
A lot of press coverage, too.
Clancy’s actually shown a lot more press coverage than folks give him credit for. I think he WANTS to dial up the blitzes and get pressure, only the secondary isn’t hackin’ it in press, nor do they seem to be hackin’ it in zone.
As for the blocking scheme, I’m seeing more (attempted) zone blocking than I expected, with all the Erhardt-Perkins talk from our resident experts. I expected to see a LOT more of an in-your-face drive-blocking scheme, but it appears that the only way for KC to get some mismatches in coverage is to run extra wideouts and they run mostly outta the spread. I don’t think that’s what they planned to do, and I don’t think Mike Goff is a good fit for what they’re doing.
No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.
Thanks
I remember that talk on Erhardt-Perkins and didn’t think it was zone-blocking either. Maybe another something that is in transition and needs some personnel to implement
We Will kick at least 4 Teams Asses in 09
And Succop will be the Key in two of them.
" Think and talk positive football off the field." Hank Stram
by Steve_Chiefs on Oct 17, 2009 6:13 PM CDT up reply actions
If we don't draft Curry I'm done with the Chiefs.
"What?!?! I aint no Obama for the weed!"
-Turk McBride
You are so full of shit
Tyson Jackson HAS to be the pick. He’ll be the second coming of Richard Seymore FO SHOOOOO.
He’ll take all sort of double teams which will open up holes for our awesome linebackers to get like 30 sacks a game.
Week 6 Prediction:
Kansas City Chiefs 77 - Washington Redskins 2
by craig in calgary on Oct 16, 2009 3:04 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
nah, the front DL isn't fast or strong enough to make up for weak LBS ... Curry it is
especially since DJ is so slow and they’ll probably bench him anyway …
maybe if they move Hali to LB … nah, that would be dumb
Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisiton!
Don't forget
We got Zach Thomas. He and DJ are going to start at ILB every game!
It’s useless to try to analyze this far out. The college season isn’t even over with. Who remembers when James Lauriniatas was a can’t miss top ten pick about this time last year? Everything changes as the year goes along…and then completely flips after the combine.
Not to mention Pioli’s decision isn’t always the most predictable one. I wouldn’t put any sort of money on his picks the day before the draft, let alone 3/4 of a year out. =)
"I don't know if I want to go to New York. They'll have to pay me a lot more money because I like it here in Kansas City." -- Roger Maris
I know the rams suck...
but lauranaitis, has actually been pretty good….. exactly what most people thought he’d be… a smart solid performer you could count on being there for gameday for the next ten years…. he may not be ray lewis…. but who is…???
amen
Not to mention Pioli’s decision isn’t always the most predictable one. I wouldn’t put any sort of money on his picks the day before the draft, let alone 3/4 of a year out. =)
It’s fun to speculate… but I guarantee we won’t be able to predict the majority of Pioli’s picks.
* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season
This is who i say we take in the first round. berry is good but Mays is a beast

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you really want a Safety from the University of Spoiled Children?
Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisiton!
or here what do you want a guy who kills the ball carrier or is good in coverage

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not sayin mays is bad in coverage either he just doesnt have the INTs that berry does
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Are you back?
I see the casualties reports and hope:)
We Will kick at least 4 Teams Asses in 09
And Succop will be the Key in two of them.
" Think and talk positive football off the field." Hank Stram
by Steve_Chiefs on Oct 16, 2009 7:03 PM CDT up reply actions
I would much rather have a safety
Who takes the ball away giving it to our offense or scoring points, rather than trying to set up a few highlight reel hits.
Berry>>>>>>Mays
by BAMFSpecialOps on Oct 16, 2009 7:37 PM CDT up reply actions
Really? Are you me?
Seriously I could not agree with you more. Any advice I would give to someone intrested in the draft already is to watch film. A nice place to watch film is always Youtube, Also Rivals if your a member. I also Tivo alot of games to watch players consistently on every play. O Kung is very athletic and will be a good LT, for someone else. Berry is so much of a better player that it is like comparing Ed Reed to Tony Ugoh.
Mays isnt that good in coverage. Also Berry is a hard hitter as well.
Berry is a better Form Tackler as well, Mays takes bad Angles and reminds me of a Fast Pollard.
IMO the way to look at it is...
USC almost always has the best talent in college football, last year he became such a sensation because of the great play of the front 7. They didn’t always get sacks, or stuffs but they got enough pressure to force the underneath throws. It wasn’t so much as Mays being deep on every play that teams wouldn’t throw deep, he is not such a big threat to meet the ball at its highest point then take it back for a pick 6. He would rather the ball be caught on an underneath route and then he comes up with a full head of steam and blasts the ball carrier.
Berry is always constantly moving around in the Tennessee’s defense he comes up to stuff the run, then plays the nickel corner spot, then plays deep. Every play the other team accounts for him, he has incredible instincts. Look at some of his ints this year, they are crazy athletic plays and he makes them look easy.
I would much rather have a ‘ball-hawk’ in the secondary than a hardhitter on this defense.
by BAMFSpecialOps on Oct 16, 2009 10:12 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm sold!
Sign me up! It’s been years since the Chiefs had a dominant secondary.
Much is made in highlight shows of LBs bitin’ on the play fake and getting caught too shallow in their drops, but with dominant secondary play, you just take the fetters of your LB and tell him to attack up the field. If it’s a play fake, smack the RB on your way to the QB (the best way to defend the hot read to the RB is to knock him outta position or on his ass). Great corner play, in particular, was a big part of DT’s greatness. You knew he was comin’ and he was free to come from wherever he chose – A/B/C gap, on EVERY play.
No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.
A dominate secondary/safety
Should also allow Hali/blitzers/front 7 more time to get to the QB. We have not been getting it done with just 4 coming after the QB. Watch how Sharper has been playing with the Saints, he is moving around, spotting the ‘open’ man then closing on the ball, next play he comes up in run support, he is always moving around before the snap never giving the QB an easy read.
by BAMFSpecialOps on Oct 17, 2009 3:01 PM CDT up reply actions
the only one i know anything about is Suh...
and thats b/c i live in Husker nation (Omaha NE.) It sucks…Anyway, he seems like an NFL talent and shows he can DOMINATE at the COLLEGE LEVEL. Again DL is one of the hardest adjustments coming from college. Also, as i said previously, not knowing any of the others, and my pure hatred toward the Huskers, i will abstain from voting.
although...
this was my favorite play from last year. Stiff arm that QB! I hate Colorado just as much as the Huskers.
y'all realize that Pioli will probably select ...
None Of The Above
Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisiton!
... and that you'll hate whomever he picks?
;o)
No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.
he's sneakly like that....
I’m sure he won’t do any of the things I want him to do… but in the grand scheme of things… he’s had a little more success running a football team than I have…. although, I’m just waiting on the call…. I wonder how you “apply” for that job… maybe I should just send my resume in to clark hunt and say… hey… if you’re thinking about making a change…… I’m here.

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