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The Search For A Nose Tackle


I have noticed and im sure you have noticed that Ron Edwards and Tank Tyler are unreliable and ineffective from the 2 gap so I have made a list of free agents for next year and players from the draft who could fill that role. 

Free Agency 

1 Vince Wilfork strong athletic with a strong body to over power players.

2 Casey Hampton although this will probably never happen but I heard some trade rumors and at 31 he could come to KC for a 1 year 5m deal.

3 Ryan Pickett a strong run blocker and good Technique this would be a good cheap upgrade.

Draft

1 Vince Oghobase Stats and Analysis by CBS Sports 

Oghobaase (pronounced oh-guh-BAH-see) had relied upon his size and athleticism for much of his career before he noticeably improved his conditioning and technique last season to post career highs in tackles (51) and sacks (6). He earned honorable mention All-ACC accolades and only one ACC defensive tackle finished with more sacks than Oghobaase -- BJ Raji, the ninth overall pick in the 2009 draft.

Oghobaase signed with Duke out of high school, and with the exception of a 2005 redshirt season prompted by a knee injury, Oghobaase has started all 36 games in his career entering the 2009 season.

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Analysis

Pass rush: He flashes the burst to slice through gaps and create problems for the offense immediately. Good lower-body strength for the bull rush when he plays with leverage. Is improving hand technique and learning to use his long arms and quick hands to better slap away attempts of blockers to control get into his chest. Typically relies on his bull rush to create pressure. Almost non-existent use of hands to disrupt the passing lanes. Has zero passes defended in 36 games started.

Run defense: Rare size for the position. Can drive the blocker into the pocket and slide off laterally to make the tackle behind the line of scrimmage. Good lateral agility and balance to slide down the line against the toss.

Explosion: Good initial quickness off the snap. Marginal lateral agility and straight-line speed for the position. Only "phone booth" quickness and tires easily. Flashes some pop as a hitter, but only when given space to gain momentum.

Strength: Good anchor against double-team blocks. Can create a pile in the middle. Struggles to consistently gain leverage and too often allows shorter interior offensive linemen to get their hands to his chest plate and dictate the action. Good strength and lateral agility, but negates it when he plays too high.

Tackling: A typical catch tackler who can slide off blocks as the ballcarrier passes. Shows some lateral agility in space and uses his long arms well to trip up ballcarriers. Flashes closing speed as a pass-rusher. Marginal effort in pursuit.

Intangibles: Not yet the sum of his parts despite starting the past 36 consecutive games. Showed better maturity and discipline last season in the weight room and in learning technique with the hiring of coach David Cutcliffe. Size and strength make him an intriguing fit for 3-4 teams as a defensive end.

NFL Comparison: Tommy Kelly

2008 Season

Started all 12 games in 2008 Honorable mention All-ACC pick. Tied for the team lead in sacks (6.0). Posted 51 tackles, 9.0 tackles for loss & five QB pressures. Had 6.0 TFL and 4.5 sacks over the final five games of the year. Carded a season-high eight stops at Virginia Tech. Has started all 36 games in his Duke career.

2007 Season

Started all 12 games in 2007. Honors candidate for 2008. Tied for the team lead in sacks (4.5) while ranking second in tackles for loss (12.0). Finished seventh on the club with 49 total stops. Logged career-high 10 tackles with 3.5 TFL and 1.5 sacks at Navy.

2006 Season

Started all 12 games … Freshman All-America choice by Rivals.com (2nd), College Football News (3rd) and The Sporting News (HM) … Freshman All-ACC selection by The Sporting News … credited for 28 tackles, 8.0 tackles for loss and one sack … posted a season-high five stops at Wake Forest … recorded a safety against Florida State by tackling Seminole running back Lorenzo Booker in the end zone … ranked fifth on the team in tackles for loss … on the field for 568 snaps.


 

I was looking at this I noticed he was improveing every year getting more sacks and if I remember correctly  Duke Runs a 3-4 defense. 

2 Terrance Cody he will slip into the second round probably because of his weight .

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I know Cody isn't a popular guy around here...

But any time a 380 pound man that can move slips to the second round, and you have an obvious need at NT… you have to at least take a look…. although there’s a chance Ciron Black from LSU drops to the second round….. I’d be very very very happy with okung in the first and Cody or black in the second…. but I wouldn’t be surprised to see cody in a chiefs uniform next year

by callmesir on Oct 16, 2009 12:17 PM CDT reply actions  

380?

Is he very athletic at that size? Who does he play for, I’d like to look him up. Thanks for the heads up.

Winning begins with Attitude - Haley and Pioli will be winners in KC!

I'll forever be a Chiefs fan! Only God himself could take that away from me, but when I get to my great reward, I'll rejoin two bigger fans, my Mom and Dad.

by Lanier63 on Oct 16, 2009 12:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Mount Cody is playin around 365lbs IIRC

He lines up as Full back in some goal line situations, and has a few rushing TDs. However he is not the top 3-4 NT imo, Boo looks better as a 3-4 NT and should be around in the 2nd or 3rd. Cody looks like he would be better in a 4-3 where he can just hold up a guy for 1 or 2 plays, then go to the sidelines, not someone that fits with Haley/Pioli.

by BAMFSpecialOps on Oct 16, 2009 2:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

"unreliable and ineffective"

I disagree… I think both guys have been pretty darn solid.
not spectacular, but solid.

I don’t think NT is the biggest need for this team.

S, C, RG, OT, KR/PR…

These are all much bigger issues than a slight upgrade at NT.

* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season

by stagdsp on Oct 16, 2009 12:55 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

+1

Edwards spent most of last sunday vs the cowboys in the backfield. You have to give these guys time with a new scheme and new technique.

"Success is never ending, failure is never final."

by GenericBrand on Oct 16, 2009 1:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

We have a NT that will only get better.

Its the first year of this scheme and Tank has to get back into the mindset of where he was in college when he played the position. It takes 3-4 years for a Dlineman to really hit their stride and next year will be his third season and just as important his second in the new scheme. Theres no point in my mind to draft another dlineman and set ourselves back another 3+ years at that position.

"Success is never ending, failure is never final."

by GenericBrand on Oct 16, 2009 1:01 PM CDT reply actions  

I want to see us draft a Olineman...

First rd. then after that I dont realy care. I think Pioli and company will make good decisions with our draft class.

by chiefs_fan05 on Oct 16, 2009 1:31 PM CDT reply actions  

Someone else said this earlier this week...

…and I usually hate to repeat thoughts, but this bears a repeat!!!

Please, please, please, do not draft anymore early round Defensive Linemen!!! If Tyler can’t do the job, then bring in a quality FA to upgrade the position…

I’d rather see us spend those early round picks on the other areas of need: offensive line, LBs, Safeties, WRs or RBs.

"Every day is an evaluation and if you’re not out there how can we depend on you? If you’re out there and you don’t know what to do, how can we depend on you?" Accountability -- Haley-style...

by Chief_Elmo on Oct 16, 2009 1:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Why draft an OL in the top 10...

We dont need a LT, We can adrees C and RG with our pick from ATL and our 3rd rounder. We need to upgrade this defense. Im think Eric Berry with the first pick and then Eric Norwood with our 2nd rounder.

by darwithabar on Oct 16, 2009 2:58 PM CDT reply actions  

I'm more with you on this, darwithbar.

Depending on who does/doesn’t develop this year, I’m thinking perimeter players on O and D are 1st order of business.

Funny how NOW everybody realizes the big needs in the secondary, now that the scheme is no longer designed to just protect THEM.

And I think it likely there’s more talent on the O-Line on the current roster than we even know. Just let Alleman and Ndukwe work their way into the lineup.

I still am not against going for a top-caliber OT. Dominating bookends will make EVERYthing else the Chiefs do much easier, and O’Callaghan’s an upgrade, but I don’t think he’s a dominant tackle.

No question. Otis Taylor should be in the Hall of Fame.

by hmills110 on Oct 16, 2009 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

I just had a similar response on another post...

But, yeah… Ndukwe and Alleman COULD end up covering at least one of the starting jobs next year…

My best guess:

Albert/Waters/Rookie Center/Ndukwe/O’Callagahan as starters
Rookie T, Smith/Alleman/Brown/Richardson as backups

That would only require drafting a starting Center (2nd or 3rd round) and a backup Tackle (4th round or so) in 2010.

I wouldn’t rule out drafting an OG as well… but Waters, Alleman, Smith, Ndukwe, and maybe Niswanger and Colin Brown… that’s a LOT of (potentially) servicable guards

* "I doubt anyone will miss Connor Barth except UCrawford"
* the LB corps may become the biggest strength of the Chiefs in 2009
* The OL is NOT as bad as you think it is... give it time, and you'll see improvement this season

by stagdsp on Oct 16, 2009 3:48 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Excellent points

REC REC

We Will kick at least 4 Teams Asses in 09
And Succop will be the Key in two of them.
" Think and talk positive football off the field." Hank Stram

by Steve_Chiefs on Oct 16, 2009 4:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

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